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hi everyone ,

just wanted to wish everyone the best of luck with the test tomorrow.

luckily ill be attending law school either way ( Canadian civil law schools don't require the lsat), but to those of you who are putting it all on the line , i hope you crush this thing.

I've been studying on and off since july of last year and I'm excited to hopefully put this test to bed for gd. looking to use my score for a transfer to a common law school.

again , best of luck

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Last comment monday, jun 12 2017

Feed Me!

I got no dietary restrictions, so with that said... any ideas on what food to pack 4 tomorrow's test?

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The correct answer to this question is information that would help to evaluate the argument in the stimulus. If the information is taken to one extreme, it will strengthen the argument, and if the information is taken to the other extreme, it will weaken the argument. Under this standard, why isn't (D) correct?

The argument breaks down as follows, imo:

Premise: A nearly complete skeleton of an earlier dinosaur that was not a T.Rex had the T.Rex characteristics (big head, small arms, long legs), but was much smaller in size and lighter than the T.Rex.

Conclusion: The T.Rex's features (big head, small arms, long legs) did not develop in order to accommodate the size and weight of the T.Rex.

I understand why (B) is a question that would help evaluate the argument, but why isn't (D) considered information helpful to evaluate the argument?

If the earlier dinosaur is NOT related to the T.Rex, then wouldn't that weaken the argument by leaving it more vulnerable to the objection that some difference between that dino and the T.Rex explains the counterexample away? And imagine if the dinosaur was almost exactly the same as a T.Rex (so extremely closely related) -- wouldn't that strengthen the argument by strengthening the relevance of the counterexample and making it harder to distinguish it?

Let's go a little bit outside the stimulus to explore this issue -- if we had found a mammal skeleton that had the T.Rex head, arm, and leg characteristics, but the mammal was tiny, would that evidence be just as powerful as the skeleton evidence in the stimulus? If not, then doesn't that prove the relatedness of the skeleton specie and the T. Rex IS helpful to evaluating the argument? And if the answer is yes (that a mammal skeleton would be just as powerful as a dino skeleton as evidence for the conclusion), how?

Thank you for any thoughts.

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Well, the time has come again for us to put our skills to the test. If you're looking for some motivation to get you through game day, remember your goals and why you decided to take this step towards becoming a lawyer in the first place:

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....for the money

.....or because you just have major career goals

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It's been a while guys. As I have previously announced, I will be attending the University of Chicago for law school. I was looking at some of the syllabi for some previous classes and it seems that not all courses allow for typed exams and a lot of them require handwritten exams. Now I can only see as recent as 2012 so I don't know if that has changed but what seems to be the trend nationally on this?

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Hi everyone,

I apologize in advance if this is somewhat repetitive but I'm looking for some guidance on what to do in my situation. I am hoping to sit for the September test in order to apply for the following year's fall admissions cycle. My diagnostic was a 158 with a -8 on LG. I am pretty much done with the CC and am about to start fool proofing LG as it is my worst section.

I was thinking of spending ~3 weeks on fool proofing LG using the LG bundle that I have access to. On that subject, what is the method that you would recommend for fool proofing games? I took a look at the bundle and the file is absolutely ginormous. I already have a spreadsheet that I plan on using for games that includes: PrepTest, difficulty, category, how many I got wrong, and the dates that I am going to attempt the game again (next day and week later). Is there a set number of games that I should be trying per day?

I am completely open to any suggestions that you all may have regarding time spent on LG before diving into the PT's.

Thanks!

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I know this is probably a rookie question, but I require an expert answer. So how do we diagram since? I don't recall it in the lessons. I have reasoned it myself so I'll give my input first and tell me if I'm wrong.

Since it's Raining, the soccer game is Cancelled

R --> C (if it's raining, then the game is cancelled)

It cannot be drawn as C --> R. (if the game is cancelled, how can we assume it was cancelled because of the rain? Maybe there was a terror plot or an earthquake)

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  • Super speed Lawgic translations as a result of all those in/out games.
  • Managing panic from subtle inference questions and weird games
  • Reading "with my pencil down". Extremely careful reading and tactile comprehension.
  • Yeah. So fool-proofing LG can contribute to other, transferrable aspects of the test. I've basically committed the past 6 weeks to the bundle while "neglecting" LR and RC. But now, as I mix in some those sections, I find that the habits I've instilled from LG remain regardless of the section.

    Keep on pushing ya'll. If you're aiming for Dec like me, it's not too late to master games. Good luck!

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm currently a rising senior in college, and I intend to take the LSAT in September and begin law school in the fall of 2018.

    I started my LSAT prep in late May, working almost exclusively with Logic Games for that duration. My timed scores have been consistently high for the past two weeks, but I almost inevitably miss a single question on each game. The missed question is almost always one of the easiest in the game, and my incorrect answer is always outside of the commonly selected wrong answers (according to the 7sage metrics.)

    The situation is derived from a consistent pattern of mindless/silly mistakes, and I've struggled with this kind of thing since elementary school. Even using blind review, even after reading every word in a passage twice and out loud, I end up writing down a rule wrong, or bubbling in a letter different than the correct answer I just identified.

    I know that the canned answer to this is to drill, and trust that over time I'll sharpen up and the necessary skills will develop. That said, I wanted to reach out and field any advice from others who may share a similar personal weakness. Even if focus/detail is your forte, I'd love to hear your stratagem and facilitate a discourse on how to remain keen, especially when practicing with time restriction.

    Thanks!

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    You've got this. I took it for the first time in February and I got my highest score after months and months of prep during school, while working a part time job. Trust me, you can do this. (3 Breathe, eat well before leaving, make sure you have everything you need, and power through all the sections. Kill it everytime. Once you get to the essay you're in the homestrech and before you know it, you're done!(/p)

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    So a little background information. I studied for 3 months prior to this past decembers LSAT, i used the bibles and i was grossly unprepared and didnt have a community or a mentor to confer with. I unwittingly took the december test and scored a 160 ,my diagnostic was a 148. I wasnt happy with this score bc i knew i could do much better. For the most part i procrastinated until around 1.5 months ago when i decided i was gonna start prepping again with the goal of taking the september test. Since then i have studied 25+ hr weeks along with my close to 55 hrs of work a week. I have seen much improvement and confidence in every aspect of the test and my methodology. I am through games 1-10 of foolproofing and plan on foolproofing for another 3.5 weeks . My question is, and i understand i am gonna get the generic " wait till you are ready" answer, but i am still asking what is your view on the benefits of taking the september test vs December. I am shooting for a t14 school and i know i can do it, i would say my average pt is around a 165-167. As far as i understand the admission process, the earlier i apply the less competetive i have to be in order to get a spot. So should i shoot for September? My methodology is sound as far as i can tell. My main issue was the games and RC and i am seeing major improvement in both areas. I am a little concerned because my current schedule will only allow for 20 PTs between finishing foolproofing and the test date. But on the other end i am worried to take december bc that will put me in the latter half of admissions. Any input?

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    Okay so this one I really don't understand. The question talks about changing days of the year so that the days no longer shift.

    It states: Many scheduling problems could be avoided if the last day of each year, and an additional day every 4th year belonged to no week.

    The stem says: The proposal above, once put into effect, would be most likely to result in continued scheduling conflicts for which one of the following groups?

    The correct answer is B.) Employed people whose strict religious observations require that they refrain from working every 7th day.

    What....how would they have a continued scheduled problem? Every 7th day they don't work. What's the issue here? Do I assume that work would say "Hey, you don't get to take that 7th day off because of your religion?" I feel like it requires me to assume things that it shouldn't. Or maybe I am missing the idea completely....

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    Hello guys,

    ive been consistently scoring 20+ on RC yet in the last few days I've been getting scores as low as 14

    i suspect its a sorting issue as i haven't been able to properly triage the passages in terms of difficulty.

    should i be worried ? do i go back to doing them in the sequence that they're originally presented ?

    id hate to change strategy so late in the game.

    thanks

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    Last comment saturday, jun 10 2017

    LR details, need advice :/

    Hey guys, so in reading LR question stems, I've become more attentive to the structure of the argument along side being extra careful with what is actually said. However, in assessing the arguments structure I've taken a teeny bit more time per question...I feel like this is because I attach equal importance to the content of the question.

    My question is: in an effort to actually save time and not rush and miss questions, how much should I really try to understand a stems content? Should I focus less on content and more on structure? When I get lucky with LR and finish all on time, I score in the 170s where RC does most of the damage (timing is also an issue).

    When I get shorted on time from LR, I score in the mid 160s....

    So this advice could carry into my RC as well. I've begun to analyze structure too but I've made no adjustments in my reading of details. I am more accurate but I lose time.

    I understand every question and question type, I'm literally just running out of time. I'm not being efficient. For example, Parallel question types are my favorite and I go through them quick because I know it just focuses on structure.

    Wat to do?

    Thanks again guys, I'm almost there, this is my final weakness and it really needs to be addressed. Last LSAT I took I had no timing issues on LR. I did relatively poorly but came to my answers using the same (although flawed at the time) methods WITHOUT really caring for argument structure.

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    are you studying to the last minute and showing up in your pajamas?

    treating this like the olympics and wearing athletic gear complete with sweat bands?

    channelling your big law dreams with a new custom tailored navy blue suit?

    pissed off that you can't rock your silicon valley chic hoodie?

    me: jeans, t-shirt, sweatshirt, good luck socks, and a pair of vans.

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    It is going to be my first time LSAT...The report time is 12:30pm...wondering how long will be the waiting time/instruction time while sitting in the room before the test actually starts...any ideas?

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    Last comment friday, jun 09 2017

    Recommendation Letters

    Fairly new here!

    I had originally intended to apply for the Fall '17 semester but that has been pushed back to Fall '18. However, I already had recommendation letters from my professors uploaded to LSAC earlier this year. Since they are most likely dated a year early, any advice on what I should do? Am I overthinking it as with everything else?!:)

    Thanks in advance!

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    Last comment friday, jun 09 2017

    exhausted for studying

    Hi everyone,

    I am going to take LSAT on June 25th (I am in Asia). But right now I am exhausted for studying. :( So I am looking for advises here.

    I have total 40 days (full time study) for June LSAT. I finished all my final exams and fly back to home on May 15th. This is short and stressed. Before this around, I also studied in the winter break (full time) for a month (I thought I could take Feb test, naively), mainly spent on timed PTs (what a bad idea). I barely touched LSAT during the spring semester. I haven't taken real test yet, and I plan to apply this fall.

    I drilled on LR and RC and I feel improvement on LR, a little on RC. I would like to drill more and I have barely drilled game yet, but I know I have to driving into PTs now. It is already too late.

    I still want to take this June test, at least get some feeling of the real test. If the Sept test is my first test, I am afraid that would be too much pressure on that one. I am thinking if I should stop drilling and start to take PTs. I feel I am not ready, but I know it is already late to start. I am also worried that I could used too many fresh PTs but I am very likely taking Sept. test.

    BTW English is not my first language. This adds difficulty, but I think my language is roughly OK for LSAT.

    What do you think? Should I driving into the PTs right now? What should I do for June, and what should I prepare for Spet? What is the reasonable total study period range for a 170+ student?

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