I've been PT'ing in the 176+ range for my last few PTs, and at this point, I feel that I'm running out of PT material. I still haven't taken 63 to 77, which I am obviously trying to save for taking throughout August and September. So, I am taking about two PTs a week or one PT every three days. I'm not sure what to do on the days off, when I'm not taking a full PT. What do you recommend? Should I take 1-3 full sections on off days? Just drill a few games/passages/LR questions? Again, I only have a few untouched PTs left. Maybe a few in the 20s and 30s.

What do you think?

Test day feels like it is approaching fast and to be honest, this anxiety is unbearable. I am where I want to be when it comes to practice test but I am a nervous wreck on the inside. I have even considered pushing back my test to the December date

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-3-question-20/

I was not sure between B and D.

I thought B is correct because it bases its conclusion on premise which contradicts one of its premise...

(It says "the odds are overwhelming that we would be alive during this period too" while also says "because we are not alive during this period")

Is B wrong because they are both premises and one of them is hypothesis?

By the way regarding D...isn't that "not alive during this period" seems true because how can ppl live so long? (It would take centuries right?) The question is not asking flaw in the argument, but I was just wondering whether the argument is valid or not.

Thanks,

So I'm wondering if anyone has any advice as to what the hell I should be doing. Background: I've been studying for about a year now. I'm aiming for the high 160's and my pacing is getting worse as I do more tests? I think this is a matter of pacing, as sometimes I dont finish a section. Usually I finish all the RC passages and questions with time left, but this last test I didn't get to passage 4. Whats the best way to make some improvement?

PT 42: 163/ 172 BR

PT 44: 164/ 168 BR

PT 46: 160/ 178 BR

PT 48: 159/ 178 BR

PT 51: 163/ BR - not yet done

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-2-question-12/

I was not sure between B and D...

As for D, I thought the word "It fails to address..." Does the argument have to address it? I thought if so to make an argument people would need to address all aspects or components relate to the argument, and was not sure it is necessary to make an argument. So I thought the flaw is more likely "It takes for granted..." in this argument. (B and D mention similar things anyway)

So B was more attracting for me...

At first I thought the word "remotely" may be wrong, but the argument only says "personal reasons" and this could include "remotely association" if it is personal related, so I chose B. Why we are not allowed to think this way?

Thank you in advance.

Hi,

I just reviewed the embedded conditional lecture by J.Y.

I now understand why A -> (B->C) becomes A and B -> C

I was wondering what happens if (A->B) -> C appears in the stimulus.

When I tried to translate the conditional by myself

I got this.

(A->B) -> C

~(A->B) or C

~(~A or B) or C

(A and ~B) or C

~A or B -> C

Is this correct? I think there is something wrong about this... but I don't seem to get the exact reason why...

Please help me out 7sagers! :)

Does anyone experience scoring high on a PT (above your average) and then taking your next one, only to find you dipped below your average? I notice this pattern frequently. Could this perhaps be overconfidence? This was PT#71, which I found pretty difficult too. Whatever the case might be, it is very frustrating because I am still 5-6 points away from my goal.

Hi! I thought it'd be interesting to get a general feel for this question. I've increased my score by about 3-4 points on average through a month of studying and I'm not sure what to think of that -- it seems a tad slow, especially since I assume the rate of increase will decline as my PT scores get higher. What has your experience been and what would you recommend to further increase scores?

Hey y'all,

sorry if this was an already started discussion, but do y'all have any recommendations on ways to study up on common vocabulary on the LSAT? What I mean by common vocab are essentially just long words that LSAT writers like to use often that they know could throw off test takers? I haven't gotten too far in my course just yet, but I couldn't find anything for it in the curriculum. I know that reading helps, and I do read a lot, but I've missed quite a bit of questions because I won't understand one word in the AC. I thought I'd ask!

Thanks y'all!

So, I'm drilling Method of Reasoning questions and this is a question I got wrong.

I think I understand why A-D are wrong, but I don't understand why E is correct.

A) The two individuals only discuss avoidable risks

B) Not having a reference to context is not the issue, the situations discussed are clearly referred

appropriately

C) There isn't confusion the risk is clear

D) This is the answer choice I chose bc I was so confused with the answer choices, anyhow upon blind review I said precision is new information

If someone can tell me if my reasoning seems ok and why E is correct, I would be most appreciative.

Thanks in advance!

Hi, so I've recently started doing PTs (around 5) and I am scoring in the low 150s. My BR score has been increasing, with the most recent being 167. The problem I have when doing PTs is that I always run out of time for LR and end up not doing the last 5 or 6 questions (while skipping other questions). I end up getting around 10 wrong per LR section but when I BR, I miss around 3 per section. What can I do to bridge that gap? Should I drill individual LR sections and stop PTing? I went back to the curriculum and worked on my weaker areas like Flaw and weaken questions. Sometimes I have a really hard time understanding the wording of some answer choices, which take up time.

As for RC, it's my weakest section and I never get to the last passage during PTs.

My plan was to take the test in September..but at this point I am really unsure if I should cancel and write in December. My goal is 160+. I wanted to write the test in September so I could have a chance to retake in Dec if I needed to, but if I write in December, that would be the last score some law schools in Canada would accept.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Just wanted to verify is a contradiction the same as a counter example?

Hello all,

I am currently a third year student in law and political science at the university of Lyon, France, and I am planning to go to the US or Canada for the first year of my masters degree in international law. We have access to several universities for that kind of exchange, and I thought it would be interesting to have American students give me advice on which ones are better and why. The universities I'm interested in are:

- USA: Boston university, the university of Southern California and Brooklyn law school

- Canada: McGill, Montreal, and the university of British Columbia in Vancouver.

Could you guys tell me what you think about them and which one would be better according to you, especially for someone looking to study international law?

Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to seek some advice from other 7sagers on tackling Flaw question types.

I have gone over the syllabus a few times on these questions and even memorized the different flaws that could arise. However, I am still averaging around 45 to 50% correct when dealing with these questions. (got the score from my LSAT analytics).

Im following the two step test - 1) Facts 2) flaw but still struggle with these questions.

Can anyone recommend any methods you have used in trying to improve with these question types. Ive noticed these question types appear quite a bit on the LR sections.

Thanks :)

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I finished the 7sage core curriculum and after finishing the first few PT's to which I have access to solutions, I noticed that PTs 39-51are no longer sold anywhere online... I am pretty upset because the ultimate course gives me guided solutions to 12 PTs to which I have no way of accessing... I feel like this is sort of unfair, and was wondering if anyone else was facing the same dilemma?

Ive looked online everywhere and the best I could find was the Manhattan prep books that include pt 40-51 but they are grouped by question type so there is no way for me to pull them apart and take LSATs under real conditions with these books...

Hi!

So sorry if this topic has been covered before, I just can't seem to find any information online whatsoever! I've completed my undergrad at an international university and am wondering if anyone has any insights or experience with how LSAC calculates grade conversions? I recall seeing on the LSAC website last summer that they are converted to superior, above average, average, and so forth, but the links seem to have been removed.

Does anyone know anything at all about this process? I'm terrified that my GPA will be lower than I expect and negatively affect my chances of admission this year.

Cheers!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-4-question-09/

I've spent about 2 hrs dissecting this question and I just DO NOT understand it. At all. I've looked at discussion boards, books, everything. Please, for the love of God, HELP!

This happened!

(For those unfamiliar -- Left: Allison. Right: Nicole)

Okay, this question is outside the possibility of signing up now and possibly withdrawing. I am asking specifically about actually taking the test on September with no plan to withdrawal. Here's why...

I've been studying for a while now and have all but completely met my LSAT goals. I'd say I'm about 1-2 points away from the score I want to at least sometimes hit, though this is mainly to secure plenty of leeway to score within a desired range.

Since I've been studying for a while, I have absolutely decided to take the test in order to apply for next year's cycle. With this in mind, I really only have three test dates from now to the application process for the upcoming cycle ends. While I may not be 100% ready for September, I'm awfully close with just over a month to get closer.

Should I not achieve my goal from a September take, I still have two more takes (December and February), and September would only be a wasted take insofar as the potential impact a retake would have on my psyche. But should I count on being fully ready - which I believe I would likely be by December - I would only have one more potential retake available.

I would really love input on this from fellow 7Sagers, and I'll refrain from citing my personal pros and cons for taking in September no matter the circumstances until/if I get some feedback.

Thanks in advance!

The number of test takers that receive accommodations of time and a half per section is growing from what I can tell, has there been any thought from 7sage on making a four section test proctor that has 53 minute sections?

Admins please delete if I am crossing any lines.

These are MY notes from the free webinars put on David Busis and figured that I should host them somewhere for everyone to view/use. This is just scratching the surface for the breadth of information that David provides in the admissions courses, https://classic.7sage.com/enroll-admissions/.

Admission Webinar Notes

Look at the applications for schools you want to get into now, a lot of them share similar topics.

Timeline

-Should start in June, but July is sufficient

-Focus on research and building resume first

-Develop personal statement draft by end of July

-Line up recommenders, give time to reconnect (have conversation, grab coffee, email correspondence, etc)

-Come august you should begin edit the essays, let them evolve

-By September you should be proof reading the essays for easy errors (review it 4, 5, or even 6 times)

-If applications are ready in October, then apply, if not then wait until you have all ducks in a row and papers as best as you possibly can

-If you apply by thanksgiving you're still great and early, February to march is late and should consider waiting until next year.

Before you start you want to sanitize your Social Media, adjust privacy settings, delete embarrassing/not professional photos

Open prompts truly can be about anything

Don't necessarily write about why you're going to law school, if your resume shows real commitment to social justice, have wanted to be forever, then write about it

if your T-14 schools don't really care, write about something not focused on this

Personal Statement (600 - 850 words, if overwrite that ok, it easier to overwrite and cut then underwrite and add)

(There is more on PS below in this post)

-Make them remember who you are, do not brag about what you've done as that what your resume is for

-Diversity Statement, only write if you can write a really really good one, should generally be shorter than personal statement, if it wants to be longer than personal statement than maybe use that as personal statement

-Wont make up for low LSAT scores or low GPA, but could help put your application into the "Yes" pile

-Stories stick in peoples heads more than facts, remember you as the guy who "Locked keys in car, broke into own car, got arrested for breaking into own car"

-If you have a really good reason to be a lawyer, then write about it, otherwise DONT

Diversity Statement (little bit shorter than personal statement)

-A essay about how you would make the campus more diverse, not tied to ethnicity, religion, etc

-Only write diversity statement if you can talk about how your background shaped you

-A good one wont hurt you, but a bad one WILL

Resume (not the same as a job)

-List interests and activities (these two come up in interviews)

-Shows that you're an human being, humanize yourself

-Only include highlights, show off skills or highlights talents

-Keep to one page, admissions will scan for about 30 seconds, so make it scannable with plenty of white space and easy to read formatting

-Only include highlights

-Have quantifiable accomplishments

-Keep it to one page

Letters of Recommendation (need two or three)

-Around 3 LoR is best, no more than 5

-Academics weigh much more heavily

-Those who know you well are much more helpful

-Those who can tell stories about you, help illustrate your personality

-Can give them information about yourself, might include keys for what you want to be highlighted or how you've changed recently

-Reconnect and help them remember who you are or fill them in on what you've done since last seeing them

Character and Fitness Addendum

-Assume admissions can find out anything available via google, social media, etc.

-Disciplinary action at school or ever arrested, assume that everything you don't disclose will go back to bite you

-Figure out what you should call the incident, Class B or Class C misdemeanor

-Show them what you learned and explain to them why its not going to happen again

Weakness Addendum (Extenuating circumstances)

What happened, How are you trying to fix it, What isn't it going to happen again

-Is this a legitimate problem?

-Did i try to fix this problem?

-Is this going to occur in the future?

-Don't write about a weakness you don't want them to know

-Substantiate the lower GPA in mechanical engineering department with a pass rate for EIT /

-Spin this with being military minded, straight line thinking person for the past X years of life

Why school X essay (optional but NOT OPTIONAL, 1 page or less)

-Although these are stated to be optional they are not!

-This is an INTEREST TEST, if you don't write one or write about a generic reason this shows a LACK OF INTEREST

-Must write it if you have the option, this is a interest test

-Have to do research on the school, talk with students, admissions, graduates

-Cite unique reasons, classes, clinics, professors you want to work with

-Don't make it a generalized statement ("Great professors")

-Should be one page or less

Other Essays (Idiosynchratic)

-Compliment or emphasize other parts of your admission packet

-Use this to expound on your "marketing of yourself"

-Georgetown has 5 additional essays

-Use this emphasize one part of your essay, or if you didn't write about why you want to be Lawyer then write that

Brainstorming

-What 5 seconds changed your life, boil it down to a key moment

-When did you change your mind about something

-What is the hardest thing you've ever done

Personal Statement Webinar Notes

A good personal statement topic finds a good center between What Matters to You and What is an Interesting Story (where there exists the most overlap is what you should write about)

-In additional, a good personal statement where there exists an intersection between what Matters to you and What is an Interesting Story AND doest make you look like a douche

-A really good writer can make almost anything an interesting story (I am not a good writer thought....)

-Tells your life story, or a thin slice of your life's story

Do you have an incredible story (something that could be made into a Lifetime movie?)

-If yes, then you want to use that

-If no then DON'T use that --> Brain storm, general rule is that 1 in 10 ideas are good ones

Personal statement should have an internal before and after, should be a lesson that reflects a small journey you made

Questions to ask yourself to find a good topic

1) When did you change your mind, your beliefs, or your goals? Anywhere in your life where you took a new direction, a big inflection point. Maybe it is smaller than significant change, such as a psychodrama.

2) What is the most challenging thing that you've done? What is your mountain? This might be a really good topic because it presents movement 1- the challenge and movement 2- the solution

3) What contributed to your identity? What shaped you or what made you, you? Might be about how you grew up, such as had to raise your siblings. Maybe you were a parking lot attendant and had a bunch of time to focus on something, like reading.

4) What is most surprising about you? It forces you to dig deep about something that will be memorable. Maybe its a hobby, a skill that most people don't have, or an interest most people don't have.

5) (Most powerful statement) What 5 seconds changed your life? Doesn't necessarily have to be actually 5 seconds. Might be easiest to write because you have an identifiable changing point and have a before and after.

6) What made you want to be a lawyer? This is a good topic for anyone who has a good and sincere interest in becoming a lawyer, not a boring reason such as a stable or respected profession. Don't pretend you want to be a lawyer for some abstract reason because your resume will flush out that your interest isn't actually sincere. If you have some use for your UG degree.

Topics can meld together, such as a 5 second change that drove you to want to be a lawyer.

Dudes favorite essays:

1) Tourettes essay - about a time someone who has tourettes his whole life, seemed ordinary from his POV, but from someone else POV its pretty interesting

2) Defending a Neo-Nazi - a African American who ends up defending a Nazi in court

3) Coffee Shop - A 5 second change in this girls life, who normally didn't stand up for herself, but was a pivotal movement for her

4) Paper Cranes - Korean student who moved to Japan who had an inherent distrust for Japanese culture, while making paper cranes in a park

5) Max's Death - An VETs story about an Iraqi Soldier who died while trying to get his Green Card, focus's more on his relationship between the two NOT ABOUT MAX

6) Tourne - Someone who could make a type of food, tourne, and his struggle

7) Women like you - About a woman who was harassed in a police station in South Korea, turns that moment about being harassed into what are her core beliefs

The best personal statements touch on the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN YOUR LIFE

Things to ask:

1) Do you play an active part in this story? If you're not active then the topic probably doesn't work

2) Can you illustrate the point with specific anecdotes and details? These are the "bricks" that build your essay. If you can't remember specific details about the event, it might be a shitty essay because it will be vague

3) Is the topic important to you? Can you write about it sincerely?

4) Is it "the time that"?

Things to NOT DO:

1) Don't say what you're not sincere about because you think its what they want to hear, the admissions will flush out your bullship

Bad Essays Example Topics:

1) The time I witnessed injustice essay, unless you were wronged or people you were connected to were wronged, then this is not going to seem sincere. Did you try to, or actually, do something about it? Did you actively act on that cause?

2) The Blah Business School Essay

-Did this experience working at the internship, or working at your job, matter to you? Did it change you? If not then it will feel like blah.

-Is your accomplishment something special, or was it just doing your job? Sometimes just doing your job can have a sense of nobility.

3) The essay about the obstacle that's not really an obstacle.

-Disappointments are not real obstacles

-Is this an actual obstacle or is this a disappointment?

4) The Two-Headed Essay

-Writer doesn't really know what he wants to write about and morphs into something weird

-Do I have more than one topic?

-Is every paragraph part of the same story?

5) The Headless Essay

-People writing about their resume or writing about

-Can you explain what this essay is about in one sentence or less? If you can't then you probably don't have a good essay

Notes from Admissions webinar on Personal Statement:

Personal Statement (600 - 850 words, easier to overwrite and cut)

-Make them remember who you are, do not brag about what you've done as that what your resume is for

-Diversity Statement only if you can write a really really good one, should generally be shorter than personal statement, if it wants to be longer than personal statement than maybe use that as personal statement

-Wont make up for low LSAT scores or low GPA, but could help put your application into the "Yes" pile

-Stories stick in peoples heads more than facts, remember you as the guy who "Locked keys in car, broke into own car, got arrested for breaking into own car"

-If you have a really good reason to be a lawyer, then write about it, otherwise DONT

Useful resource for examples of PS that worked

University of Chichago School of Law Admissions Letters: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/magazine/spring11/intheirownwords

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/node/1451

Hi All,

I'm currently registered for the September exam. I've been trying like hell to prep under regular test conditions since May so I don't have to use my ADHD as a sort of crutch to take this exam...but today I've just come to accept that it's a disability that I have and I will need more than the alotted 35 minutes to perform my best on this exam. When I BR I'm scoring in the high 160s/low 170s. And under actual time conditions I'm just all over the place from the high 150s-160s. I've set a routine where I meditate for 15 minutes prior to taking a PT, I listen to the same song to calm me down, I do push ups. But when I'm on the clock I just panic. (When I took the Oct '13 exam I had a panic attack during the 1st section and just never recovered, I should've cancelled..but I didn't)...so I've gone onto LSAC's website to request testing accommodations. I have all the forms from my doctor stating my condition and requesting extended time...but I'm sort of lost on the statement of need that I myself have to submit. What should I put? Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-4-question-20/

Could someone please explain why answer A is correct. I can get there by process of elimination as I understand fully why the other answers are incorrect. But I'd really like to understand the reasoning between A so I can say I have a "full understanding" of this question. It would be helpful if someone could give an example using numbers.

hello is there any idea of when JY will be posting the review of the June 2016 test? Test 78