So I am in reading comp right now, it is literally the last thing I am doing in my prep before going back to PTs. But I am still having the same problems that I was having last year when I was studying. For example, if there is 7 questions in a section I am constantly missing 3-4. I have tried the method JY recommended. It has not helped make anything better. I am getting really frustrated because I have had great growth in all other sections of the exam but I am still sucking the big one in RC. I dont test until September so I have time to figure this out.

I have tried going slow and seeing what happens, I have tried to keep the timed 3.5 minutes, I have tried not marking and marking the passage. I feel like I have exhausted all areas. If I were only missing one or two questions a passage I would make peace with it. But I am leaving to many points on the table to make peace with it right now.

Any advice or help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Weaken and Strengthen questions are my weakest section types and take me much longer to do than any other questions.

I'm not able to prephase what the correct answer would be

Are you guys able to prephase your answers?

I feel like sometimes I just jump into the answer choices with soo many differnet possible answers in mind like "ok the answer could be a different cause, a different element presented, attacking a flaw, necessary negated" and basically I read the answer choices without even knowing what I'm looking for lol

Hello all,

So, I'm basically 1 month behind, but I'm trying to make up for lost time (I work at a law firm, and I work A LOT of overtime), but essentially the only thing I can really see (in terms of losing out) would be the number of PTs taken before the Sept. 2017 LSAT. I am leaning towards just finishing the CC (I'm in the Ultimate+) and have about let's say 16 "topics" to do, and I think what I will do is cover the topics (but not do every single problem set). Maybe do 1-4 problem sets for each topic and then move on to the PTs in preparation for the Sept. LSAT.

Thoughts?

Hey 7Sagers,

While going through my tests, I have noticed that there is not a particular question/questions I get wrong on LR, which is a bit odd to me. For example, sometimes I will get NA, MBT, Resolve the Paradox questions wrong, and on another section it will be Sufficient Assumption, Weaken, and Evaluate. I am not sure if I am missing these due to rushing, or what another reason could be (since I get questions of the same type right in the section also), so I was wondering if anyone had any tips for me... or how I could possibly improve this :S

Happy Studying!

Hey all,

I've been gradually improving on RC over the last 10 PTs (-6 to -8) to (-3 to -5) by spending more time upfront understanding the passage content/structure/emphasis and less time wastefully deliberating over answer choices. Generally, I feel pretty efficient about how much time I spend on each question based on the question type and its respective difficulty.

However, I notice that for harder meaning/synonym and author's attitude questions, I find myself spending a longer period of time debating answer choices (~1 min+) than I should be (~30 sec). For author's attitude questions, I circle key words that reflect the author's opinion as I read the passage and write an A next to the longer parts of the author's opinion. For meaning/synonym questions, my strategy is to replace the word in the stimulus at its respective location with the answer choices and see if it fits.

Usually, 2-3 of the answer choices can be easily eliminated, but when the remaining two answer choices have the correct type of tone (i.e. both positive/negative) and only differ in degree, I end up spending way too much time debating between the two by looking at the passage for textual evidence and eventually end up going with my gut. I know JY's advice for difficult RC questions is to cut your losses, go with you gut, and rack up points on easier questions, but I feel like there's a better way to approach these questions more confidently to minimize time spent and improve accuracy.

How do you guys approach these question types?

Good morning everyone,

So I've been "studying" for a long time now, nearing 1.5 years. Pushed back for various reasons, but I'm really convinced that, although I'm sure I'll miss an inference, rule, strategy, whatever we learn from the curriculum, I'm very familiar with it. When I blind review, I know what I did wrong, and I obviously try not to make that mistake again.

My biggest issue I think is my anxiety when I do a PT or a timed section. Granted, I've only taken about 7 PT's, and my highest has been a 151 (BR 160), and I know a lot of people here will say "you need to go back to the curriculum" or "you need to drill more".

I agree that I may perhaps need to drill more, but don't you guys feel that the best way to overcome this issue is by doing more timed sections, drilling question types, PT'ing and then blind reviewing? I just feel that if timing and anxiety while testing is a big issue, I'd have to tackle that by doing timed sections, no? Any advice will help. I'm realistic with my goals, and will receive any constructive criticism well :D

Thanks everyone

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This week we are going doing the following :

PT: 44

Experimental Section: LG from PT56

(I recommend inserting the experimental in between sections 2 and 3, or 3 and 4)

Date: Sunday, June 4th

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Hi everyone,

I just printed the PT 1-35 LG Drill package and would like to use it for the fool proof. I have the following concerns:

Is there any practice test(s) that is too old which we should avoid working on?

Is there any LG question type(s) which no longer appears on recent LSAT which we should avoid as well?

Thank you.

I have noticed my order of doing LR q's makes or breaks my score. What are some methods you guys use for skipping and doing questions. I usually do 1-10 regardless, then usually the next 5. Then work my way from question 25/26 backward while skipping to do question types i feel comfortable with.

To enhance its commitment to access and diversity, LSAC has entered an innovative partnership with the Khan Academy to develop free, online practice materials for the LSAT with the goal of making personalized, online LSAT practice free for all. LSAC is also expanding the frequency and formats of the LSAT to reduce barriers to entry to legal education, including piloting the first nationwide digital LSAT exam on May 20, 2017. Further, LSAC has made a significant investment in the Council on Legal Education Opportunity, Inc. to assist in that organization’s efforts to advance the diversity of the legal profession.

Source: http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/pressreleases/testy-president-and-ceo

On another note, I also read in a different link that apparently LSAT test takers will be able to take the LSAT as many times as they want, and the number of LSAT test dates per year will be increased to 6 (from 4).

So currently i work from 9-1 and study from 1-3:30 and then work from 3:30 until 8:30 and then study from 8:30 till 11 pm i have a pretty packed schedule and i was wondering what you guys think of taking a break on saturday from studying. Seeing as i keep the sabbath, i wouldnt be able to start studying until 9:30 pm and on. So it would be a late night anyways. Any thoughts?

Hey everyone!

Could anyone shed some light as to the issues with (D)? I didn't select it because I had an eerie feeling about it, but even as I read over it now I can't seem to put my finger on why it's incorrect. The more I read (D), the more I think (D) could suggest that beauty is subjective, which would effectively weaken the argument. Thoughts?

Here's the link to the question! https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-15/

Thank you!

I live in N. Oakland but am working in SF from 10-5 Mon-Fri. I am looking for anyone who like to meet up either in SF or Oakland to study together. I have been self studying since Feb and postponed from June to Sept bc my PT scores were not high enough. I think a study group will be very beneficial! Pls let me know if you're interested, I promise I don't bite.

I am retaking for june to get off the waitlist at WashU and wanted to see if anyone in Dallas wanted to get together to study.

I apologize if this question has been asked before but I was unable to find any previous discussions. Would anyone be able to point me to a source where I can find information about which schools average your LSAT scores and which ones only take your highest score? And that goes for both American and Canadian law schools. I would very much appreciate any information because I am currently on the precipice of a mental breakdown about whether I should postpone the test to September and cancel my registration next week! Thank you :)

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Although the instruction said "Snacks and beverages are permitted only during the scheduled rest break. Consuming food or beverages in the testing room at any other time is distracting for other examinees and is not permitted."

However, it could be uncomfortable not to drink any water for approximately 2 hours (3 section plus instruction, etc.)

Therefore, can someone share their insight on what the real situation is like? Will test proctors allow us to drink water in the middle of a section?

Thanks.

Anyone know where to buy PT February 1997 for less than $30 new/unmarked? I know it is the basis for ItemWise on LSAC's website, but I was hoping to use it as a full test.

Ok, we've talked a lot about Logic Games strategies as well as Logical Reasoning strategies, primarily about skipping, but I feel like I haven't yet found or come up with a solid Reading Comprehension skipping strategy. Yes, I have been able to come up with a personal amalgamation of JY's memory method and other methods but I am yet to figure out how to skip questions. First of all, do you guys ever skip questions on one passage, only to return to that passage after you've read some of the later passages? I think that's a bad option and I very rarely do so. Second, do you rather skip questions within a single passage with the intention that some of the following questions will bring about an explanation or light a bulb in your head about what that one previous question you skipped was asking? And finally, I have generally tried to stick to the rule that I have to be done the first passage within the first 8-9 minutes, and the second passage no later than 15-16. Do you guys agree? Any advice, comments are welcome :)

On an average, how many minutes should be given to per question in LSAT ?

I finished the CC last week and i am starting to foolproof, assuming that it will take me 4 weeks to foolproof that leaves me with 10 weeks to PT. What do you think about this timeline.?

P.s. my LR scores are around -2 so i am not so sure i need to drill them. And i am practicing the memory method daily.

Hey guys can you direct me to some flaw questions where the answer is the Sufficiency/Necessity answer? Especially the tough ones.

PRIVATE September Study Group

Hello all,

Please review the information below and if interested, leave a comment and message me directly and you will be considered for the group.

I will be starting a private September study group. This study group will be unique and different from the official 7sage study groups. I’m composing this post in search of 6-8 dedicated LSAT students who are willing to meet on a weekly basis. THIS WILL BE YOUR TEAM FOR THE NEXT 4 MONTHS. I want to establish a close knit team based study group to hold each other accountable, keep each other honest, and provide each other a friendly but competitive push when needed. I will be selecting students from the community to join our group. The smaller than average group size will allow for a more personal and efficient studying atmosphere.

The study group will be reviewing LR on a weekly basis. We will gauge interest with RC and LG in order to determine if those will be reviewed.

Requirements:

Must be able to meet almost every Saturday night from now until September. If you are thinking “what the hell, I hang out with my hubby on Saturday nights” or “Saturdays are my drinking nights.” This is not the study group for you! I understand occasionally there will be obligations such as work, weddings, or something of the like. This is not a problem, and we fully understand. But you must be present when possible. Meetings will be at 7pm EST on Saturdays.

Must be dedicated to taking the assigned PT for the week, and must be able to work on problem areas during the week to ensure you are ready to take the PT for the following week. The only exception to this rule is if you have not been able to fully understand and address problem areas from the previous test. I believe sticking to an assigned PT schedule without properly working on problem areas is a poor way to approach the LSAT.

Must have basic LSAT knowledge including but not limited to: question types, identifying conclusions/premises, conditional statements, et cetera.

Must be finished with the CC.

Must be motivated and driven.

Must be in a quiet place to review. Do not be at a busy starbucks or your local cafe.

Must be able to download the discord app. We will be using this app to keep an open dialogue throughout the week.

Must have access to a computer and a microphone. Apple iphone headphones will usually do the trick. We will not be using GOTOMEETING like the other 7sage groups. Therefore, there will be no phone line to call in from so you must be able to communicate by other means. If this changes, I will keep you guys posted.

NOT REQUIRED:

A certain PT score is not required. Study groups work best if there are members on different levels. We are happy to take the 140 scoring student under our wings.

You are not required to take the September LSAT. Although, which PTs we take will be determined with September in mind.

How will you determine who is in the private study group?

We will be selecting from members who have posted below and messaged me directly. Our goal is to ensure the best possible score come September and to create the best studying dynamic for all of us. I, and one other, will keep these in mind when determining who should have access to the group.

I will notify those selected by the end of the week. We will hold an orientation this weekend to discuss testing assignments, which communication apps to download, and any other questions or concerns anyone has.

So I've nailed logic games, I've implemented a new strategy for LR where I pay more attention to structure and ive been doing better so far, but my RC is totally screwed up. A) a lot of the time I don't get to every question, and B) most of my mistakes are from Inference and Authors Perspective questions.

I make the right answer choices during BR but I just can't seem to time myself correctly.

Should I spend more time on timed RC which would lead to less time on LR and LG review? I don't plan on doing BR for RC , I feel like LR skills translate into skills needed for RC questions. But my timing is way off. I took PT 63 and got a 167 but I missed like 5-8 questions in total, and rushed RC making stupid mistakes just to get to the next question. I feel like I can't retain enough info to be able to make inferences ...I go back and skim portions of the passage to affirm my inferences. Should I rely more on skimming and going back during questions or nailing it after the first pass?

I'm having trouble differentiating the IC from the premises and I don't like IC questions in general...if something leads to a conclusion then it makes sense that it's evidence/fact/premise. It's hard to understand what IC even does. It's like a conclusion that's not the overarching conclusion but it gives support to it.

If we have facts that are all linked to each other in a causal chain, let's say like 5 sentences/relations ,,, and these set of facts, going from one to the other, leads to an ultimate conclusion, where do we draw a line between this chain and say "okay, everything before this led up to this sentence, and this sentence directly supports the main conclusion, so this is the IC".

Is my definition or idea of it wrong? Is the IC, where it exists, a tangent conclusion or is it just the next broadest point in the argument? And I know the conclusion indicators and all but it's still tough. I feel like LSAC chooses to call some things a premise and some things an Intermediary Conclusion.