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Monday, Aug 1, 2016

Must Be True

I need help with MBT. For some reason I'm really struggling with these. On each PT I get over 80% of all the LR question types correct and between 50-60% on MBT every time. What am I missing with these?

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    If someone can help me understand this question, I would be most appreciative. I have been staring at it for the last 15 minutes, I looked at the Manhattan explanation (on their forums) and was not satisfied, it really does not make sense to me.

    If someone could help me, I would be most appreciative! Please, please help me! :(

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    I know a while back we had a "Hamilton Thread" so with the release of the 8th Harry Potter story, I figured I would see if there were other Potterhead/folks 7Sagers out there. So just like the Hamilton thread, this is just for fun!

    Whos excited? I usually read a new HP book (cover to cover) the night it comes out, but not sure if I will do that tonight. I'm actually getting the book delivered to my house between midnight and 2am (Thanks Amazon Prime Now). Im am currently waiting for 9:45 so I can place the order.

    I plan to see play(s) (hopefully) in April in London as a part of my celebratory I am finally done with the LSAT Europe trip.

    So a place for us the Potter fans.

    PS fun fact, I was a volunteer moderator (Host Wtch Fawkes) on Harry Potter.com from 2001-2003 helping to moderate the boards. I was over Gryffindor and the Sorting Hat threads. Hey... can I put that on my resume @david.busis haha It was post college :)

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    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-02/

    Does the stimulus in this question illustrate a causal relationship between the Sumerian's inability to support agriculture and its collapse? I'm wondering if the second to last sentence of the stimulus can indicate a mere correlation, that there were other factors that caused the collapse unrelated to agriculture. I'm just having trouble understanding if the causation was something indicated through indicator words or if it was implied based on the information of the stimulus.

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    Sunday, Jul 31, 2016

    Schedule

    Hello, everyone! My name is Sarah, and I am new to the community. I want to see if anyone would help me with a schedule (I apologize if this is against the rules, and if so please delete, but I truly am clueless.)

    I have been taking practice quizzes for months now, but I am looking to commit to a schedule. I take the LSAT in December. The only thing is I have an extremely busy schedule, and unfortunately there is nothing I can really cut down on. I am 23, and I am a senior at a university, graduating in December. I have to take five classes to graduate. I work full-time as a legal assistant, and I can't cut down from 40 hours because I have to support my family. Lastly, and most importantly, I have a 1-year-old daughter. I see people studying 6+ hours a day, and that certainly is not feasible for me. Two hours a day seem more feasible.

    I of course would love to score in the 170s, but I have my goals currently set on 160. I spend a lot of time in the car commuting, so I've been listening to audiobooks trying to utilize that time. I have also purchased numerous books. Overall, I am overwhelmed but completely dedicated to do well while balancing my life. I have a dream to attend law school, and I refuse to let anything get in the way of that all while making my baby girl proud. If you may, please send any and all tips my way. I truly appreciate it.

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    For those who once were scoring well below the 169+ mark, what were some of the larger breakthroughs in your prep that allowed you to finally start scoring in the 169+ range?

    How was your approach to questions different for when you were scoring

    well below 169+ to then scoring above 169+?

    Thanks in advance for those that share their thoughts.

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    I first read Passage A, and because I'm a nervous impulsive person, I go straight to the questions that refer only to passage A and do those, and then skim through the questions that refer to both A and B (i.e. "Which of these would both the authors from A and B agree with?") and eliminate a good 2-3 answer choices for each of the questions like that. I do this because I fear that I'll forget what I read in A after I finish with B (or worse, misinterpret A wrong and see it through a different lens after because of what I've read in B.)

    This strategy doesn't seem terrible, since I still do ~okay~ on the passages, but it also probably takes up more time because I'm re-reading questions? I wanna know if anyone else has tips / good strategy for Comparative Passages. I'm still trying out my strategy, but if it's deemed inefficient or unnecessary, I'm still in the early stages so I'll be ready to change/modify to a different strategy.

    Thanks, community!

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    I decided to take this course for the summer. I began with a diagnostic of 147, and I studied for 6 hours a day 6 days a week. Today, I scored a 168! I want to thank the whole community here for making studying such a fun experience, and ESPECIALLY JY for being an incredible teacher. I am not exceptionally smart, nor am I exceptionally gifted, but I work hard. I really believe that if I can do it, anybody with ambition can too! Thank you, thank you, thank you 7sage for being so incredible!

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    Long story short, I started studying May 16th for the September LSAT. I went through the core curriculum (probably a little to fast) and have taken 10 PT's. I've now realized I am not where I want to be and September is just not going to happen for me. I know I need to go back through the CC (especially the lawgic stuff). I've posted here before and you all told me not to waste a take and especially not to waste a 4.0 GPA. My diagnostic was a 151 with -18 on LG. My average on these 10 tests was a 163 with BR in the 170's so I'm hopeful going back through the curriculum and refocusing myself without the stress of taking the test in September can help me increase my score 7-10 points. Now my question is this: I took tests 37-48 so how much damage did I do to myself? I still have 30 clean PT's that won't be touched until I feel I am ready again. I feel so relieved that I made this decision, thank you all for being a positive support group and giving great advice.

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    Hey guys, little background information, I studied for LSAT for six months during which I finished the syllabus, did couple of PT and did the Bundle that increased my score from below 148 (not timed) to 151(timed). But had to go back to uni for three months to get my GPA up. Now I am free and have until December to take the LSAT and need a 155-157 to get in. I will be studying for LSAT full time from now until December, I do not know where should I start? Should I finish the trainer, do a quick review of syllabus or start doing PTs and BR? I appreciate it if you could tell me what do you think.

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    Update: Thanks for your amazing responses, everyone. I’ve been pouring through them, trying to figure out how I would choose from such worthy and gripping accounts, when I finally realized I don’t have to choose. I’m going to change the format instead.

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    I’ll end the webinar after an hour. If someone doesn’t show up, I’ll skip her, so it’s hard to say how far down the list I’ll get.

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    Saturday, Jul 30, 2016

    Speed or Accuracy

    Hi there.

    I have been preparing for LSAT for 2 weeks and my progress right now is that I finished the Powerscore Bible of LR and also the relevant part of 7sage and I have also done around 8 PTs. So as I practice the LR with the PT, I try to finish the section in 35 mins but if I do that, then I am always around -8. However, if I do take my time and finish it around 45mins then I am around -4. So my question is that, what should be the main concern for me right now, to get more right answers or to try to finish the section in time? Or is there any other right things to do that I am missing right now? Thanks!

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    So I'm in a bit of a situation, I have taken the LSAT in June and I was approved for accommodations for that exam. I registered to take the LSAT again in September and I was approved again for accommodations the same accommodations that were given in June. But I had a recent check up with my neurologist and my condition has gotten progressively worse than before and he wrote me a letter for my University about my disability telling them I need many more accommodations to guarantee my safety as well as fairness when I go back to school. He also wrote me a letter for the LSAC to add more accommodations including supervised bathroom break. I have a history of seizures and when I have a seizure I fall down and usually hit my head ( I had a seizure during my June LSAT when I used the bathroom but I sucked it up and went on taking the exam). I was wondering how can I make the changes necessary to guarantee a fair testing environment for myself given my unfortunate condition? Thank you!

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    So regardless if I take a timed or untimed test, I only get half of the logical reasoning questions right. The first 10-12 I get right and then it goes downhill. Does this mean that my foundation and understanding for logical reasoning is not good enough? Problem is I feel confident about a lot of my answers :/. Please help me in how I can improve my poor logical reasoning scores!

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    I have the LSAT starter, which has assigned for me PTs to take that are difficult to find (or find at reasonable prices. I have followed links provided, but it seems prices have become extraordinarily inflated, especially for those PTs in the 40s---I have managed to get a Manhattan book that has organized the 40s exams by q-type). I am also a re-taker, but the first time(s) I did not exhaust my PT's...I have the 70s, some 60s, some 50s, and some 30s available (about 28 exams total) fresh PTs left. Could/should I substitute those, instead of the suggested? I realize I miss out on video explanations though.

    ...

    Maybe I should just spill my case/experience thus far, and perhaps this community can cringe and provide advice/best procedures.

    Ok, I took the LSAT twice. First time: canceled after taking the exam. Second time: entered the exam having slept 0 hours. Yes, I had insomnia and incredible anxiety because, in the depths of my being, I knew I was unprepared. But! I didn't cancel because I didn't want to "cancel twice." I exited with a 159 (oof, it hurts). This is after months of "studying." I have read through the LSAT Trainer 3x, Manhattan LG, LR books 3x, Powerscore LG, LR books 2x. I took PT's here and there, without real BR (so I can't reliably provide where I was scoring--I sadly didn't have much of a system except, try to do one at least twice a week or more, until the exam). I've technically been "studying" since the beginning of 2015. After the June exam, this past month, I finally made (what I believe, the good) decision to join 7SAGE. But not before making another mistake: I'm registered for the September exam.

    So, quite a clusterF, as some would say. My greatest weakness is LR. With LG, I'm spotty, but I feel it's graspable with more practice, repetition, etc. I'm usually confident in RC, but it's not down to a hard science. I have my days. Is any of this useful? Gives me so much anxiety writing my failures down (and reading how hard I have failed).

    Eek. Help!

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    When the question asks: "which exhibits a pattern of reasoning most closely similar?" indicating a Parallel question, is it implicitly given to us that the stimulus contains a valid argument? Or can we not assume that? Just wanted to make sure because I think that would help me eliminate answer choices (that contain invalid arguments) quicker.

    This is in contrast to Parallel Flaw, which explicitly states "which exhibits a pattern of *flawed* reasoning...?"

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    My fellow 7Sagers!

    I just took my first PT after curriculum and experienced a +15pt increase! My diagnostic was 143. My goal is 165.

    Any advice on how I can move from PT to PT and see even greater improvement? I'm trying to maximize the next two months (September 24 is game day). Obviously don't mind surpassing my goal score! :) #WhateverItTakes

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    Hi, I'm consistently having problems with the Social Science and Law sections in the reading comprehension sections. I score almost perfect on my Humanities and Natural Science sections, but I can't seem to get more than 2 or 3 right within the two other areas. I was hoping there was some kind of strategy or method of thinking that I could try and incorporate that would help me within Social Science and Law.

    If anyone has any good tips that would be awesome.

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    Today I completed over 8 LR problem sets and 8 logic games. Each problem set takes me ~30-60 minutes with blind review and all :P Quantity wise, I feel like I'm not getting a lot done, but quality wise, I believe that I'm refining my critical thinking skills through this thorough process. So, how much LSAT material do you get through on an average day? :)

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    Note:

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  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-4-question-13/

    I understand why "A" is correct but still cannot arrive at why "E" is incorrect. My thought was that "E" allowed for the possibility that instead of not believing the testimony, some just did not find the testimony (which may have been one that implicated the defendant) significant enough to render a guilty verdict. In other words, all members of the jury could have believed the testimony, yet some may not have viewed it as significant enough to decide on a guilty verdict.

    Does "E" just not draw upon the flaw in the reasoning behind the conclusion from the premises?

    I was close to understanding this in last night's BR call, though I think I still need more input to clear my mind up on this.

    Thanks in advance!

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    I did this question twice in a span of about 3-4 weeks. I got it wrong both times.

    So what I did was diagram the stimulus:

    TT-->OM-->OD

    S-m->OM

    OM=Older than Maples

    OD=Older than Dogwoods

    A) I eliminated because there is no relationship between dogwoods and tulip trees

    B) We don't know anything about the youngest sycamores only about the sycamores that are older than dogwoods

    C) I picked this when I did it last night. I actually thought it was correct because we know that most sycamores are older than dogwoods, so there must be some that are either younger or the same age as dogwoods. I guess this is wrong because of "oldest dogwoods" am I correct?

    D) Similar to A there is no relationship that can be said between tulip trees and sycamores

    E) same as D

    Can someone help me. Clearly my reasoning is incorrect somewhere because I got this question wrong not once, but twice. I am incredibly grateful to whoever can help me understand this problem!

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