Hello everyone,

This is my last week of the CC before the PT's start and I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. I am still struggling with games and also want to utilize my copy of LSAT Trainer which I have not started. I am hoping to take the September LSAT and am shooting for around a 170 with my diagnostic being a 158.

With this being the case, should I delay PT'ing while I foolproof games from 1-35/read the Trainer? Or should I try and PT while foolproofing the games and reading the Trainer? To make a lot of questions short, what order do you think I should pursue and how much time should I dedicate to each?

Thanks!

I am right now finishing a passage about totally half an hour, and mostly -2. Desperated! Any hope there?

How you guys deal with RC. I know most of you may do it effortlessly.

Cynthia

I have been reading horror stories of people scoring like -7 points from their average PT scores before the test. I am content with my PT average and my scores have been very consistent, but I'm terrified by these stories of people underperforming significantly on test day. Is this even a common thing, to have your PT average that radically different than your LSAT score???

I know that when I input my PTs into Analytics, there is way that I can see how 7sage ranks the difficulty of that section. But is there any way to find out the difficulty rating for sections that I haven't taken? I'm trying to practice a few full LR and RC sections that 7sage has ranked at either 4 or 5 difficulty.

I understood "A or B but not both" as one of the followings:

Then what is the contrapositive of it?

A/B = CONTRAPOSITIVE => /A + /B ?????

But my last statement (3) indicates /A and /B could fall under the definition of "A or B but not both".

Can someone clarify my thoughts please :(

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This week we are going doing the following :

PT: 49

Experimental Section: LR#2 from PT56

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Date: Sunday, June 11th

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Hi all,

Shooting for September here. What are the most important/effective lifestyle changes to make before that date? Also, why?

This post is particularly aimed towards top scorers who have already taken the test/are taking soon,

This whole time I thought "more likely" = strictly correlation because it means the same as "tend to" which is also correlation, but it seems like it can be used as causation as well according to the more recent PTs.

Hi @"Dillon A. Wright" or anyone else that can help,

If you could please help me out I would be grateful.

I cannot print any prep tests from my ipad. It's a brand new Ipad pro which has printed other webpages, photos, and PDF's just fine. When I try to print the e-protected documents (prep tests) it doesn't work at all. I use the Chrome browser.

Here's what I do: I go to the Prep test (78, in this case) and click "Print and take test". Then I click "Prep Test 78 - Printable". Then I click "Print". No dialog box pops up. In fact, nothing pops up, at all. It's as if when I click "Print" nothing happened at all.

I have already tried rebooting my printer and rebooting my Ipad. Any suggestions would be helpful.

I'm not going to do anything LSAT related the weekend before, other than perhaps one set of logic games (without scoring them) on Sunday to keep my mind fresh or something. It's a very odd feeling to have a full weekend beforehand; I took for the first time in December, and it was a lot easier to just have a chill Friday night to do nothing. 3 full nights seems kind of a long time, and I'm not drinking or going out for obvious reasons. The NBA finals will probably be over at that point, so I don't even have that to distract me. Perhaps I'll binge watch the new season of house of cards or the handmaiden's tale (which I've heard rave reviews about), play some FIFA, or gasp read a book. What're y'all planning on doing to relax?

Hi, i just finished the CC and i am currently foolproofing LGs i read so many reviews about the trainer so i bought it. I was wondering if anyone could let me know how they use it in conjunction w 7sage

Hello all. I've been prescribed adderall for a while now and I'm fully aware of its effects. I've studied for the LSAT with and without adderall where I'm doing much much better ON it.

I was wondering if I should also take one on the test. Or if it would be necessary.

I don't condone it's use without a need...and this is not what my question is about. I'd advise anyone who hasn't done it to definitely notttt take it on test day as I guarantee you'll royally screw yourself over.

On adderall I have no issues with timing and accuracy. I finish sections with 5 minutes left over and I'm comfortable with all the material. Without adderall, the best I can get to finishing is by rushing and skipping. I don't absorb information so readily and I miss words because I don't concentrate enough.

My preptests are great on adderall I just worry that it might not be the same test day.

I'm generally great with stimulants like coffee and energy drinks and increased stimulation never leads me to spaz out.

Hey guys,

So my problem is the my test is next week and I have been devoting so much time to LR, that I am kind of still slipping up in LG. I have the fundamentals so I think, but I'm still bombing the LG. I have the powerscore books and I'm trying to Drill. While there isn't that many questions in the Starter to do on 7sage to help me practice I'm lost. Im not pushing my test back! I think I'm getting overwhelmed and btw i already at Test my goal is pretty low but it will get me into school. Judge or me or not but all I need is about half the test right. How do I get back on top of LG. I don't know where I'm slipping. Any advice for LG or overall tactics??

Printed out my ticket for the June LSAT's this morning. On the ticket it says "report no later than 12:30". I thought the exam started at 12:30?

What time are y'all arriving at the test center?

Hey, I recently started the CC and I was curious to know are you all drilling question types while doing CC or do you guys wait until after you have completely finished CC?

Hello! Does anyone know easy quantitative way for finding maximum/minimum number of remaining events that could occur when certain variables are selected in In/Out game?

For example, lets say there are 10 variables in total: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, and J.

Rules:

A -> /B

If B does not occur, then either H or I but not both occur

D can only come with one other variable

D and E can't come together

H -> E + F

Question: Suppose that C and E both occur. What is the maximum AND minimum number of remaining events that could occur?

THANK YOU in advance :D

Hey guys!

I was wondering if anyone could help clarify this tough Weaken question for me. Here's the link to the question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-17/

I though (C) was positing an alternative explanation for the phenomenon (the significant salary gap between employers): decreased readership. I didn't feel good choosing this AC because the conclusion was that lower wages were justified, and (C) doesn't really touch on that. But, I just thought (B) was making too far of a jump. Thoughts?

I don't know if "besides' meaning except for or including, which are the opposite meanings. For example, for PT52, the conclusion says 'So legislators who value democracy should not propose any law inhibiting behavior that is not harmful to anyone besides the person engaging in it." Does it mean to include the person or to exclude the person? Thank you for the help!!

Hi everyone,

I'm studying for the September LSAT, and am currently isolating parts of LR that I find especially difficult. I was wondering how you'd suggest most effectively going about drilling the fundamentals when it comes to question types you're struggling with? Do you, for example, re-watch core curriculum videos, re-acquaint yourself with fundamental concepts, and pluck the specific question type from practice tests to drill? Or something else entirely? I find that a great majority of the fundamentals make sense to me theoretically, and certain questions click right away when I apply my strategies, but there are certain questions that, no matter how long I drill the fundamentals, I can't seem to 'get' the answer (get it right away, or get it without first consulting the answer and working backwards from there). Often, I've noticed that the topic of the stimulus correlates with my anxiety about completing the question and my understanding of the argument. Of course, an unwelcome topic shouldn't impede my analysis of an argument, but it often does.

Any thoughts on how to re-learn question types or overcome topic anxiety? Thanks so much!

Hey 7Sagers,

While going through my tests, I have noticed that there is not a particular question/questions I get wrong on LR, which is a bit odd to me. For example, sometimes I will get NA, MBT, Resolve the Paradox questions wrong, and on another section it will be Sufficient Assumption, Weaken, and Evaluate. I am not sure if I am missing these due to rushing, or what another reason could be (since I get questions of the same type right in the section also), so I was wondering if anyone had any tips for me... or how I could possibly improve this :S

Happy Studying!

Any thoughts about whether it's detrimental to exercise the morning of the LSAT?

So I am in reading comp right now, it is literally the last thing I am doing in my prep before going back to PTs. But I am still having the same problems that I was having last year when I was studying. For example, if there is 7 questions in a section I am constantly missing 3-4. I have tried the method JY recommended. It has not helped make anything better. I am getting really frustrated because I have had great growth in all other sections of the exam but I am still sucking the big one in RC. I dont test until September so I have time to figure this out.

I have tried going slow and seeing what happens, I have tried to keep the timed 3.5 minutes, I have tried not marking and marking the passage. I feel like I have exhausted all areas. If I were only missing one or two questions a passage I would make peace with it. But I am leaving to many points on the table to make peace with it right now.

Any advice or help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Hello all,

So, I'm basically 1 month behind, but I'm trying to make up for lost time (I work at a law firm, and I work A LOT of overtime), but essentially the only thing I can really see (in terms of losing out) would be the number of PTs taken before the Sept. 2017 LSAT. I am leaning towards just finishing the CC (I'm in the Ultimate+) and have about let's say 16 "topics" to do, and I think what I will do is cover the topics (but not do every single problem set). Maybe do 1-4 problem sets for each topic and then move on to the PTs in preparation for the Sept. LSAT.

Thoughts?

Good morning everyone,

So I've been "studying" for a long time now, nearing 1.5 years. Pushed back for various reasons, but I'm really convinced that, although I'm sure I'll miss an inference, rule, strategy, whatever we learn from the curriculum, I'm very familiar with it. When I blind review, I know what I did wrong, and I obviously try not to make that mistake again.

My biggest issue I think is my anxiety when I do a PT or a timed section. Granted, I've only taken about 7 PT's, and my highest has been a 151 (BR 160), and I know a lot of people here will say "you need to go back to the curriculum" or "you need to drill more".

I agree that I may perhaps need to drill more, but don't you guys feel that the best way to overcome this issue is by doing more timed sections, drilling question types, PT'ing and then blind reviewing? I just feel that if timing and anxiety while testing is a big issue, I'd have to tackle that by doing timed sections, no? Any advice will help. I'm realistic with my goals, and will receive any constructive criticism well :D

Thanks everyone

Hi everyone,

I just printed the PT 1-35 LG Drill package and would like to use it for the fool proof. I have the following concerns:

Is there any practice test(s) that is too old which we should avoid working on?

Is there any LG question type(s) which no longer appears on recent LSAT which we should avoid as well?

Thank you.