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Do you think Bruce Willis used bentonite or barite when he drilled into the asteroid in space? Find out tomorrow...

...for Group BR

MONDAY, November 23rd at 11AM ET: PT54

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    Hi guys, I'm new here.

    Someone might ask the same question before, but I'm wondering if any of you have used/are using both Velocity and 7Sage? I'm currently using TestMaster's Full Online Course. My TM account only gave me about two months of access of its online materials. I'm a full-time student and when my account first expired, I only finished 30% of the lessons. I had to spend another $700 on an extension, which only gave me two more months!! My TM account is about to expire again in two weeks.

    So now I'm looking for a prep course that can supplement my study when I start doing PTs. I've watched some videos from both Velocity and 7Sage and both seem great to me. I plan to take the test in June 2016 and I have to start early because of my other school obligations. I would really appreciate it if you guys can give me some detailed comparisons between the two, specifically the 7Sage Ultimate+ and the Velocity Online Course!! I'm aiming for 170+. Any other test prep suggestions are welcome too.

    Thanks!!

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    I need some help on this MSS question

    The stimulus states that some vitamin-fortified foods have 100% recommend daily intake of vitamin A and D. We also know from the stimulus that some (many) people overestimate the serving size of vitamin-fortified foods, eating two or three times the standard serving. The answer ended up being (B) Some people who consume vitamin-fortified foods exceed the recommended daily intake of vitamin A and D.

    But isn't it possible that those who overestimate and eat double servings of vitamin-fortified foods are not eating the ones with 100% recommend daily intake of vitamin A and D?

    vff some 100% vit a+d

    vff some eat two or three times serving size

    Am I interpreting the stimulus incorrectly here?

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    Hello, I am having a trouble understanding this rule:

    H occupies the aisle seat immediately behind G's aisle seat. Why are we putting G in the aisle seat? What about this:

    3 _ H

    2 G _

    1 _ _

    Isn't H still immediately behind G's aisle seat?

    Thank you

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    Hey Everyone!

    With the December test coming up, I'm seeing more and more of these threads appear. That said, I really am in need of some guidance. I was scheduled to take the October test, but realized that I was nowhere near my target score. I thought to myself, "surely, if I take it in December i'll be ready!" Turns out, I was wrong. Here's some background information about my situation:

    Cold diagnostic (July 2015): An embarrassingly low 137. LG and RC destroyed me.

    Most recent PT and average, respectively: 157 and 155.

    UGPA: 3.94 (or 3.95...probably the former)

    Target PT: 165

    Target schools: UCLA, Northwestern, USC, UCI, Iowa, and pretty much any school in the T25 (I prefer to attend the ones listed).

    So, what you all think? Postpone, again, and take it in June? Or, take a shot and cancel if things don't go well? I've gotten pretty good at ball parking my PT scores.

    I feel like I'm wasting a ton of money by constantly moving/withdrawing. At this point, if I withdraw I will have spent around $260 to not take a test. I figure, I may as well take it just to get the experience.

    P.s. My issue is with time...I can get -0 to -3 on every section...I just need 50min/section.

    By the way, do cancelled tests appear on your record? I know they count as 1 of your 3 takes, but do schools actually see that you took the test?

    Thanks!

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    I have been doing sections every day (Reasoning, Comprehension, and Games) and getting around a -2 to -5. Granted, many of those sections are repeat sections (sections I have done before but practiced again) but I felt fairly confident in my scores and ability. Today, I took PT 73, and I got a -7 on Comprehension, -6 on Games, and -7 on Reasoning. I cannot believe this. I had felt like that I was performing well on the test. What happened? What can I do to prevent this from happening again?

    I feel very confused and frustrated that my individual practice sections are not translating to the practice tests.

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    2 weeks away, people!!!!! Let’s do this!

    LSATurday, Nov 21st at 8PM ET: PT73

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    Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I was conditionally approved for an LSAC fee waiver, sent all the documents 2 weeks ago....now they want a tax transcript from the IRS. I don't want to wait anymore - what is the fastest way to withdraw the fee waiver request so my account is not on hold anymore??

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    I've studied for the LSAT for the past 8 months and have written the LSAT before so it won't be my first (or even second) sitting. I've been writing a PT most, if not every, weekend for as long as I remember. I'm scoring in a range on my timed PTs that if I were to get the average of those scores on test day I could close this chapter of my life and be happy (again, if I score closer to my BR scores I'll be even happier!).

    Despite all this and feeling confident I have some nerves that are starting to build as we inch closer to the exam. I find that meditation (love that 24 minute one on the site) is helping a lot but still sometimes late at night my mind begins to wander. Anyone else feeling the same?

    Maybe when that happens I should go for a midnight jog.

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    Hi everyone, with the December LSAT swiftly approaching I thought it would be good to start a discussion on your personal choice for game day breakfast. I've noticed if I have a breakfast primarily of carbs for example that I feel sluggish and less focused. I seem to perform better on my PTs when I have something more substantial like an egg, or bacon, egg and cheese sandwich. Pacifico has won me over with the bulletproof coffee as well, not sure if I perform better or not but it certainly does seem to help me feel better and more focused. What are your favorite breakfast foods before a PT, or the actual LSAT?

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    I have been studying for the LSAT for a few months now and my score has tremendously improved. I am now scoring on average 165 consistently on prep tests, but what holds my score back is my reading comp section. I usually always score the lowest on RC. On my last prep test I took, I missed 2 in LG, 2/3 in LR, but missed 8 in RC, so it is really hindering my overall score. I am consistently having trouble with the humanities and social science passages in RC. I do not like those subjects and have had virtually zero practice since high school (I'm a Finance major). I have been practicing more on RC and trying to review, but I just don't know what I can do to help my score. I watched the webinar that was posted previously on the discussing and I am going to try her tips, but I just feel like I always second guess myself and narrow it down to two answers, but in the moment of the test I choose the incorrect answer. Any ideas on what I can do to try to work on my reading or any other tips? I am going to try to notate differently because I do find myself going back a lot and not being able to find anything because I underline everything as I read.

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    So for questions like question 11 on PT 71(Game 2) where the question is If _____ happens then for how many of the other "pieces" is their position fully determined do you count pieces that are established by a general rule? I watched the video explanation and J.Y. counted it but he didn't give it any comment. I usually do but for some reason I did not on this game. Basically if the initial rules say "X" must be here and then a question stimulus says if "Y" is in this spot, for how many of the other pieces is their position determined you count "X" even though it was already established before the question added a new piece of information? The piece in question here is "G" for this game.

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    I didn't circle this during BR, and I am really struggling to justify D over B. Here is my breakdown:

    This is a weaken/descriptive flaw question.

    Sites are needed for disposal of this thing (whatever it is). However, the approach you want would hurt the fishing business. Evidence of this is a petition that was signed by over 20,000 people opposing your approach and favoring this other approach (sand capped pits).

    What I am looking for: I think the argument is pretty simple enough to understand. Is the petition really evidence that the other guy's approach would actually hurt the fishing business? What if all the people who signed the petition were corporate shills or fisherman lobbyists? Also, the argument implies that the other approach (sand capped pits) would not hurt the fishing business. We know nothing about this other approach.

    Answer A: The author doesn't straw man the editor. The author is using evidence to support his claim (even though it is weak evidence).

    Answer B: This is what I picked, and I was 100% confident. Doesn't the argument do this? Doesn't the argument just throw in this random other approach (sand capped pits) without establishing that it could work? We have no evidence that it actually fits the needs of disposing the spoils. Viable means "capable of working successfully; feasible." The idea of "one indication" to me introduces evidence/premise for the conclusion. Wouldn't the "indication"/evidence/support given be completely irrelevant if their proposed alternate approach wasn't viable?

    Answer C: The author doesn't indicate what his interests are.

    Answer D: I am having a very tough time understanding how this one is correct. I eliminated this over the word "testimony." How is signing a petition testimony? According to Google, testimony means "a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law." A petition is "a formal written request, typically one signed by many people, appealing to authority with respect to a particular cause." How are these two the same thing? Specifically, the idea that a "written statement" is the same thing as a "written request" seems extremely dubious to me. If the word "testimony" were replaced with "appeal," then I could better understand what this was going for. Testimony seems such a bad synonym for what the evidence actually is in the argument.

    Answer E: No third option? We don't care. We only care about the two options in the argument.

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    I know that there are recommendations about length here on 7sage, and that there are vague guidelines in other places. However, I want to know how long the personal statement was that you actually submitted as part of your application? I'm having trouble getting mine down to the recommended length (~850 words), and am thinking about turning in a longer essay. Thoughts?

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    I cannot make heads are tails of this argument/figure out what it is talking about. I had no idea what any of the answer choices were doing since I couldn't understand the argument. Can someone break it down for me? This is my best paraphrase (which isn't much):

    After an oil spill, rehab centers were set up to clean the oil off sea otters. The effort wasn't worth it. This is where I just flat out can't figure out what is going on. What is the rest of the argument trying to even say?

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    Hi guys! Just a quick question, as I am personally struggling with making the decision of taking Dec exam or postpone till June. As the whole world tells you to "just take it," idk if i "just" wanna take it...

    Lets say I score a 160-162 this dec (no where near my goal)

    Retake in June, and get in the upper 160s, say 167-169 range.

    Would the admissions be dubious about such a jump? Is that something I have to explain or is that a given that I worked my butt off? Idk, there seems to be a lot of talk about not wanting to "scar" your records with a lower score, vs getting a much higher one later...

    Any thoughts?

    thanks guys :)

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    So I took the LSAT in October and underperformed terribly, let's say in the 145-150 range, and I plan on retaking the test in December. On my PT's, I'm still not at where I want to be but I don't really want to, nor have the option to, really wait another full cycle before applying.

    Also, I was an engineering major at UCI and graduated with a not so stellar GPA. However, at my current job, I'm gaining lots of experience--ranging from project management to quality control, another neat thing is I'm filing for a trademark to get my company's name and logo registered on the USPTO website << this is fantastic because I want to go to law school for Intellectual Property.

    Now my question is, given my relatively lower gpa and not so stellar LSAT score (hoping to crush it this time around but knowing the LSAT, ya know...), what would you guys say are my chances of getting into a school with a pretty solid IP program?

    Questions, comments, advice highly appreciated. :)

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    So this is a slight spin off of a different post reading RC. On Sunday I had a huge score drop from my high of 162 back down to 150. My clean copy BR was 176.

    The break down was -7/-8 on LR -15 on LG and -14 on RC. LG I completely understood the score drop, a couple of bi-conditionals I wasn't familiar with and caused me to freeze. I BR and I feel fairly confident that if I see these issues again I will know what to do.

    However, this is actually reflective of an overall trend I am seeing here. I've seen my LR improve significantly and I am fairly consistent w/ -7/8 and this was certainly and LG outlier and I'm usually seeing -3 or so. But I have just not seen RC improve, and it's stayed roughly -10 since day one. My diagnostic had me at -8 which would have put me at pretty decent shape for test day in Dec.

    So far it's been either accuracy or speed. If I go for accuracy, I'm down -13/14. If I'm going for speed I've seen -10. As the PT have progressed I feel like both have steadily gotten worse and I can't tell whether the sections are just actually more difficult or my strategy is getting more and more off-base. Any ideas how to shore this up in the next couple of weeks?

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    Hey guys,

    For a while now I have been working through the earlier PT's 21-38, concentrating on accuracy and applying the proper methodology to the questions. I recently discovered that I was unable to purchase PT's 39-48 because they are unavailable in the form of the 10 PT's. I decided to purchase PT's 48, 49, 50, 51 and I already have 52-75. I sat down to do timed sections with PT 48 and everything just seems way different from the PT's I have been practicing with; Questions are asked different, and the games in this test were weird, and I could not identify what type of games they were. Is it like this for all the newer tests and it is just something which I need to get familiar with, or is this test just weird? When I took the 07 PT the games were not this weird, so I am not sure what is going on.

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