For the morning people who’ve felt ignored, here is your chance ...

...for Group BR

MONDAY,October 26th at 11AM ET: PT50

Note: That 9 AM start time is EASTERN STANDARD TIME. So if you’re on the west coast, that’s an 6:00 AM.

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Imagine on the 23rd...that would be nice

For the past couple weeks now I have been doing timed LR sections and I noticed that I have been going too fast, completing all 25 questions within the 35 minutes, leading to a score always in the -9 - -11 range. The only recommendation I ever got into how to remedy this problem was from my Princeton Review instructor, who told me to "slow down" (obviously).

So for my last 3 timed LR sections I have been doing just that. I've been guessing on 5 - 6 questions, yet I still get the same -9 - -11 score. I don't have any problem with the BR process - I just feel like my brain doesn't want to cooperate under timed conditions.

Does anyone have any advice on how I can improve and break past this?

Hi

I just wanted to know, how many practice tests I should be taking on daily basis. I am writing LSAT on december 5th and just finished with the lessons and wanted to start taking full timed tests.

Thank You

How does the BR group work, I just tried calling into it & it didn't seem to work?

I have a question on how the video comes to the contrapositive of the answer choice.

"there are many records of major meteor impacts that do not seem to have been followed by mass extinction"

in the stimulus

becomes

""...then all major meteor impacts would be followed by mass extinction"

I understand we need

P ---> -CCL

or

CCL---->-p

And that this is to be P3. But how is all the contrapositive of many? Many could potentially be All. Shouldn't the right answer here be not many aka none, no, etc?

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I hope that studying and preparing applications is going well!

I was just wondering if I should write a "Why X?" essay to the law school I will be applying ED. I read on TLS (http://www.top-law-schools.com/writing-effective-why-x-addendum.html) that I run the risk of being redundant if I do write one, as my decision to apply ED essentially says more than my essay ever could. Should I go on ahead and write one anyway? I feel like I should just to be safe...Thanks!

Does anyone have a specific strategy for these? They seem to be cropping up more often, and I usually do it by gut instinct, which is fine with easy ones but hasn't worked as well for harder questions. I think this trips me up because I'm not sure what the LSAC wants here. I heard one explanation that you need to take all given premises from the stimulus and choose a conclusion that uses them all in some way... but should that the be goal if using all the given premises would make you construct a bad/illogical argument? I don't know if they want a solid, less flawed argument, or something that looks more like a typical question stem with issues, but that links all the ideas in a flawed support structure.

Help?

Are we REALLY altruistic so we can spread our genes around? Or in the words of my costar Ariana Grande...

I’m not certain she actually said this, but my former life prevents me from missing an opportunity to name drop ... so sorry, not sorry.

Wednesday, October 21st at 8PM ET: PT64

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Can someone please explain WHY the answer to this question is "C" instead of "A"?

Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [first set of words]"

Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

*The kind of question this is:* Weaken

*Premise(s):* There are several unsuccessful immature works by Renoir and Cezanne that should be sold because they are inferior quality and add nothing to the overall quality of the museum’s collection.

*Conclusion:* The board’s action (to sell some works from its collection in order to raise the funds necessary to refurbish its galleries) will not detract form the quality of the museum’s collection.

*What I am looking for:* The benefit of keeping the unsuccessful immature works?

*Answer A:* No. This is attacking the premise, so I am skeptical. This answer talks about directors of art museums in general, and how they can raise funds through other ways. The Federici Art Museum may have its own reason why it cannot do that, we don’t know. This answer would have been right if it said Federici Art Museum can raise funds through other ways, but it talks about directors of art museums in general.

*Answer B:* Yes, quality is subjective, so selling these art pieces may detract form the quality of the museum’s collection.

*Answer C:* No. This is just a history lesson on the art pieces. This extra information does nothing to the argument.

*Answer D:* No. This is other information that is irrelevant to the argument. The issue at hand is not whether or not inflation happens.

*Answer E:* No. Yet again, this is information we don’t need. This answer is talking about what the artist demands in the art market.

Hey guys.. It looks like the guys over at 180watch.com ran out of stock. Anyone know where else I can pick it up? I'd love to buy it!

So for questions where they ask you to refer to a given statement in the question stem, are we looking for a subtle answer that's not too specific in general?

It seems like the LSAT score is valid for 5 years after you take the test.

I'm planning on working for a couple years after I take the LSAT.

It is possible to apply then with the LSAT taken a couple years before right?

I just wanted to make sure.

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone, I just did preptest 64 & just realized my premium course only includes the video explanations up to 58 (except for games of course). Just curious how many of you high scorers out there upgraded your course, and if so was it worth the extra expense? Thanks in advance.

I am still confused why the conclusion is adequate productivity --> high- tech technology. I negated the high tech technology part because of the "not" present in the sentence. I tried reviewing my notes and I can't find where he explains in the negation of conditional logic that this is viable.

So just to give some background I started studying for the October LSAT end of June and was PT-ing around the early160's by the time I wrote the exam.

The thing is that I didn't do all the PT's from 30-75 as usually recommended since I was on a time crunch, so I skipped 51-61. But did the 30's, 40's, 60's and 70's.

Now I am studying for December and writing all the PT's that I missed. The bizarre thing is that in the 50's series so far I've been getting mid 150's! Should I be too concerned? Why has my score dropped so much for the older LSATS?

Thanks in advance!

LSAT Prep Test 28 (June 1999) - S2 - Logic Game 3

As explained in the video, there are so many probabilities on where to put the entities that attempting to make all of the inferences at the beginning becomes an hindrance because too much time is taken up.

I am getting a lot better at games because I attempt to make as many inferences as possible at the beginning.

My question is, what should I look for when a game is designed, such as LSAT Prep Test 28 (June 1999) - S2 - Logic Game 3, to make a person waste a lot of time making inferences?

Skipping making inferences/ not splitting up boards seems to be very dangerous!

So I've gotten through 17 PTs, and until the last couple of weeks my BR score has consistently been between 173-177, although it jumped around spastically within that range. A few weeks ago, that suddenly jumped to a consistent 178-179. Then, four tests ago, I FINALLY got a 180 and I've managed to do the same on each test since. I'm curious, for those who have a good number of PTs under their belts, did your BR scores follow a similar pattern? It was a little odd to me how they seemed to move in such discrete steps. And once you got to that point, did your actual scores level off as well, or did they continue to improve afterwards? I'm still not quite where I want to be and I'm hoping that my BR is indicating that I've mastered my fundamentals and may see a corresponding increase in my true score if I keep at it!

Hi 7sagers!

I've been working on keeping track of the amount of question types I keep getting incorrect. What I'm currently doing is writing everything out by hand with every test by creating a table. In this table I have 4 columns. The first column includes question types(each question type = one row) and the other 3 include tests (one test per column) I then go down each row and tally the amount of questions per question type I get wrong. After three tests I count how many MBT question types I got wrong, or how many Strengthen questions I got wrong. By visually seeing the last 3 tests tests and amount of incorrect question types, it gives me a better visualization on what I have to work on.

A major perk I learned for doing this is:

- it forces me to label all question stems during blind review (I double check them through 7sage grader if I'm having trouble)

I'm not scoring that high yet, and I can imagine this not really working on the high scorers (since you're probably only missing like 2 questions per section anyway). But for the newbies, like myself :) I've found it to be helpful and just wanted to share :)

If anybody has any recommendations or ideas let me know! I can always use some guidance.

LSAT Takers And Widow Makers,

90 days ago I was chilling in my dorm waiting to meet with a few of my residents and thought "you know what I am actually going to study for the LSAT". I took the 2007 test a few months prior scored it and got a whopping 147 and did nothing until July 20th.

I started by reading through the Logic Games Bible and LR Bible. I bounced back and fourth for about 2 weeks getting through 80ish% and then the most vital and important moment of my studying hit me. I googled one of the games to get some feedback and was brought to the voice of J.Y. Ping telling me how to do the game and EVERY OTHER SINGLE GAME EVER FOR FREE. I said to myself "I like this guy I am going to buy his coarse" and so I did. For the weeks following I started blowing through. I averaged about 8-10 hours a day but I think I took breaks totaling at least 2 hours a day until school hit mid august then slowed my pace. During the coarse I took notes and watched videos twice if I had the slightest confusion. I do also want to say that every test I take I watch EVERY single J.Y. video explanation for every question. Then I go through it again but this time I pretend like I am making the video and speak out loud explaining why all the wrong answers are wrong and why the correct answer is.. you guessed it...correct.

In 73ish day's I have been able to raise my score 13 points as I scored a 160 on PT41 (my last PT I have taken). Here is the kicker though. I feel really fucking good about this test. When I blind review I miss 2-3 questions for the entire test. I have only taken I think 5 PT's so yeah I am quite happy with my progress. If I scored into the 170's on my next PT I honestly would not at all be surprised and I am not saying that to brag, I am saying that because I think it speaks for itself what this coarse has done for me.

One other thing though that is important. Friday and Saturday night want to know where I am? The library. The past 90 days I have watched the sun come up more than I have watched it set. I am in the worst physical shape of my life and my friends and family tell me to "just take the test to see how you do" which anyone who is studying for this test understand why this is so hurtful? Even when I meet other LSAT takers which is rare they didn't study and thus all have scores in the 150s so not even they can relate. I am keeping a journal so I am tossing the idea around about posting it but I am going to wait to make sure I hit my test day target of at least 176 before I go spouting any type of advice.

J.Y. Thank you for the help. I feel like we are best of friends and you don't even know it, I mean we hang out every weekend. bahahaha.

Best,

LSATKingsman

receive a news alert for the millionth tree being planted in NY, and the first thing you think is, "but no... deforestation to plant more trees can release more carbon dioxide in the short term..."

that would be my brain on LSAT crack

For many of us, this is a long process. It will most likely not be a steady incline toward your goal. With that being said, you will have your ups and your (many) downs, but keep a level head and keep plugging away.

It wasn't but 10 days ago I was feeling pretty hopeless after regressing about 10 points back to my diagnostic score. After taking a few days off and getting some much needed encouragement by lurking through the 7sage forums, I got back at it and not only did I get back to where I was, I actually surpassed my previous high score (+3) and met my goal score when I took PT72 today.

Y'all have helped me tremendously, so I just wanted to send some encouragement to anyone who may need it. Keep goin!

I didn't like any of the answer choices, but I comfortably eliminated D. I still fail to see how D is even remotely parallel to the stimulus. Additionally, what makes A incorrect? Isn't the general point of the argument that you shouldn't do things too quickly? Doesn't A do this? How does the reasoning in D capture this idea?

South Bay area people where do you take the test?

SCU used be excellent but lsac removed it as a test center this year.

Jfku Pleasant Hill had complaints related to overcrowding, exteme close seating this year.

Looking to register for december.