I don’t get this problem. Please tell me where my logic flawed.

JY's explanation is here FYI, http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-1-question-24/ and yet I still don't get this.

So according to the explanation,

X—Y= Z

X= the amount that’s been mined.

Y= the amount consumed

Z= the remainder , that is what was mined but not consumed

I plugged in some random numbers and I couldn’t get the logic to follow satisfactorily.

So if we say the Z is 1990 is 50 and the Z in 1991 is 30, then couldn’t the following scenario be possible?

X in ’90= 70

Y in ’90= 20

Z in ’90= 50

Let’s say

X in ‘91= 200

Y in ’91= 170

Z in ‘91= 30

It doesn’t seem 170 is greater than 200. My set up must be wrong.

What I am missing here? Is there something in the "Furthermore, Country Q has not imported or exported coal since 1970" that I am not picking up on? Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

I guess I'm looking for some encouragement, but I'll gladly take advice too :)

I've gone through the LG curriculum on Sage, and proofed ~70 games (mostly the ones in the curriculum and problem sets plus some extras from the first 35 PT's). I can do the games I proofed and new "normal" games with very good speed and accuracy. I've now started going through the rest of the games sections in PT's 1-35, by section, and while I do OK on games similar to what I have done before, I freeze badly on games that have an unexpected twist. It's like my mind goes into panic mode and everything just jumbles in my head. I usually end up -4/5 for the section because the freeze up and subsequent brute forcing causes me to run over time. The thing is, once I'm finished, before looking up anything, I go back and redo the whole section, timed, and get -0/-1 with time to spare. It's like a veil lifts from my brain when I look at the game a second time, and the setup and inferences become clear. Anyone else feel like this, and do you think it's curable with practice? Any tips on achieving the "clarity" at first sight?

So I got frustrated about three weeks ago because I had plateaued, and in the past two weeks I did a total of maybe one LR section and one RC passage (so nothing). Seeing as the exam is on Saturday, the panic renewed itself and I took PT 62 today. I got my highest PT score ever -- a 178. I was averaging ~174 for the 6 PTs before that.

I know other people have asked about this, but I feel that burnout is not really gonna happen to me in the next three days because I already took two weeks off. That being said, are these real gains? Am I gonna get anything from 3 extra PTs this week? Or should I just cross my fingers and take it easy until Saturday? (By taking it easy I would do maybe one PT and a couple of sections)

Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/3un7d3/i_ate_at_chipotle_today_im_taking_the_december_5th/

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-1-game-3/

I don't understand what is the difference between the biconditional used in the video G(-) /W and when you write the conditional G-> /W? If the biconditional means never together and always apart why can't we use the conditional. The conditional is going from positive to negative, which means you can't have both, and can only have one or the other.

Hello,

If I applied late in the cycle, does this significantly decrease my chances of getting into a particular school? For example if i applied earlier or later, would that significantly impact my admission chances. So if I used the same profile I applied for which I applied for October for February, would I likely be rejected or waitlisted if I had applied sooner?

Is there a clear reason about why B doesn't weaken for 76.lr2.21?

It can weaken by suggesting that those who completed the program were better to begin with but perhaps i am missing something. the credited choice only refers to "many" may not necessarily undermine the argument which uses most children as evidence. My only issue with C is with the phrasing of "many children".

It's because those "some/many children" may not be the part of the support in the argument which was only based on "most children" and these two are compatible. An observation about some/many people shouldn't weaken an argument that is based on "most" children.

Alright ladies and fellas, we have 6 days until game day. Just wondering what people think of the study regimen for the last few days.

Crunch hard? Rest hard? Day-On/Day-Off?

I'm thinking of going way hard until Thursday, and a very light day Friday, but I have also been advised not to.

Opinions? Your plans?

For example:

if N or M is selected, S is out.

Since or is in the sufficient condition, N and M are INDEPENDENTLY sufficient for S. So does that mean we can have just N selected, just M selected or both selected?

Also another example:

If S is out, N or M is selected.

Since or is in the necessary condition, N and M and JOINTLY necessary for S. What does that mean? Does that mean we need N and M BOTH to be selected? We can't have just N or just M selected? I'm so confused about this concept when applying to logic games... Please help, thanks!

Ok I played around in undergrad a bit much and graduated with a 2.9 gpa. The schools I want to go to looks like I need to score a 158 to 162 to get in. I've been scoring low 150's in the PT'S. I am scheduled to take the LSAT in February. Any guidance or assistance anyone can provide is greatly appreciated. I have all of the power score bible books as well as the book from LSAC to study. My biggest issues have been with logic games....any guidance out there?

Is anyone not doing one?

I am supposed to be taking the December LSAT, because of numerous reasons including school, work, and health issues I haven’t given my self enough time to study. I am in a predicament, if I don’t take the LSAT I will need to take a year off after my undergraduate (graduating spring 2016). I have great contacts at the moment in law schools, city officials, and law offices. I am not sure how long they will be there and on my side for so time is of the essence. If I take the LSAT this weekend I may do terrible and not even get into law schools. I am just trying to weigh my pros and cons and would love your opinions. I am not looking to go to any top school. Is it worth it to wait for the February or June LSAT? Would any schools accept the February 2016 LSAT to start in Fall 2016? How do you view taking the LSAT more than once, since I could possibly take the lsat this week and if I do terrible take the year off and take it a second time. Any info or opinions is greatly appreciated.

Hi everyone,

So, I'm currently studying for the LSAT (obvs). I originally planned on taking it in October, then pushed it back to December. And now I've pushed it back to (hopefully) February. I've been studying mostly on material comprehension and less on timing. I've taken three *untimed* practice tests so far and I've received a 164/165 on each of them.

Here's my problem: so with just a little over 2 months until the February LSAT, will I be able to both

A) hit my 173 target score? I want to be scoring 3 points above my target score, and I dont want to score anything less than a 170

and B) train myself on timing?

I quit my job to study for the LSAT/work on applications. So I'm currently unemployed and have a lot of time to devote to this. There's been too much distraction at home for me (family of 8 in a tiny apartment) and so I'm moving in with a friend where I can have peace and quiet these next two months to just study.

Has anyone who has been able to bring their score up from the 164/165 range to the 171/173 range comment on the difficulty/amount of time/strategies it took for you to get there? Did you do this timed or untimed? Am I hopeless, and should I push this back to June? I don't completely mind the unemployment aspect, but would rather not delay having to work until June if you get what I'm saying.

Any sort of guidance anyone has to offer would be greatly appreciated! I would also love to do study groups/BR even with someone else, if anyone is interested. Thanks!

Hey guys!

I just recently joined 7sage. I was originally planning on applying this cycle, but after taking the LSAT in October and getting a low score, I decided to take the December test. Well, December is here and guess what? I'm not ready! So I decided to postpone my applications for a year and focus on the LSAT. I'm planning on taking the June LSAT and applying for the Fall 2017 cycle. Anyone on the same boat? I need to kick up my prep a notch and I thought joining a community like 7sage would be helpful. You all seem very nice and welcoming! It seems like people enjoy the BR Groups (I'm still trying to learn the lingo around here.. lol).

A little about me:

Graduated from USC this past May, 22 years old and working at a Labor and Employment Law firm in Downtown LA.

I'm a URM and I'm the first to graduate college and apply to law school, so this is all new to me.

Some difficulties I've been having on the LSAT recently:

Well, I seem to be able to hyper-focus on sections and improve my score notably, but my other sections fall behind. I just can't seem to hold my best scores for all sections at the same time!

Some materials I've used:

LSAT Trainer

Logical Reasoning Bible

Blueprint LSAT Prep (Full in-class course)

Blueprint to Logic Games

Do you guys have any words of wisdom? I hope to get to know all of you guys throughout this journey!! Feel free to reach out!

I'm looking to write February LSAT currently, averaging in the low 160s, (163 last PT) aiming for a 170. That gives me two months and change before February. I think I can make the jump to 170 but I see a lot of people recommending skipping February and aim for June. However, I feel as though I can hit my peak within the next two months. I think June would be dragging it on, don't think I'd even have enough material to last to June. What do you guys think? PS. I study approx 30-35 hrs a week. Thanks!

Hi all!

My course says it's expiring on Dec. 4th. Does that mean I'll be able to access material on the 4th, or only until the 3rd?

Thanks! :)

My fellow June Test-takers!

Please take a look at this tentative schedule below and comment your thoughts/revisions. I also have a TON of “notes” that I’d like you to consider. Please leave any thoughts about them in the comments below. You should also add me on Skype. My username is dmlevine76 .

NOTE: We’re trying to organize some 2-3-Hour interactive workshops with 7Sage tutors during the month of December. They’ll be on specific fundamental topics like Blind Review, Finding Assumptions/Flaws, and Active Reading. Be on the lookout for another discussion within the next week as we try to organize this. However, if you are interested in attending, please say so in the comments below. Also, if you’d like to suggest a topic, leave that info in the comments section. It’s all new, so we’re trying to make sure we’re matching up supply with demand. If they’re successful, I’d like to continue them into January.

NOTE: We’re starting at PT 29 because we have so many extra weeks. It’s true that many of the questions from the problem sets will be in these tests, so we really need to take those scores with a grain of salt. That being said, it’s still good practice.

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70s for Fridays because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 77 available to PT in May. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice.

NOTE: Friday’s attendance has been hit-or-miss. I’ve been considering I AM changing Group BR days to Tuesday-Thurssday-Saturday. Tuesday and LSATurday would be the regularly scheduled tests and Thursday will be the “wildcard” day. Please leave your thoughts in the comments.

Note:

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JUNE TEST GROUP.

We’ll now use GoToMeeting for all of our Group BR needs. Simply click this link to join the scheduled BR: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069.(/h1)

All times are PST

Very Tentative Schedule

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5 pm June LSAT BR Group PT 29

Sat Dec 19, 2015 1 p m June LSAT BR Group RC question types

Sat Dec 19, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 30

Tues Dec 22, 2015 5 p m June LSAT BR Group - Principle Questions (@c.janson35 & @nicole.hopkins) -

Wed Dec 23, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 31

Fri Dec 25, 2015 - CHRISTMAS

Sat Dec 26, 2015 1 p m June LSAT BR Group Assumption/Flaw (@blah170blah)

Sat Dec 26, 2015 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 32

Tues Dec 29, 2015 - 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 33

Fri Jan 1, 2016 All day New Year's Day

Sat Jan 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 34

Tues, Jan 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 35

Thurs Jan 7, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jan 9, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 36

Tues Jan 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 37

Thurs Jan 14, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jan 16, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 38

Tues Jan 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 39

Fri Jan 22, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group 70

Sat Jan 23, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 40

Tues Jan 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 41

Thurs Jan 28, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group 71

Sat Jan 30, 2016 June LSAT BR Group PT 42

Tues Feb 2, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 43

Thurs Feb 4, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 44

Sat Feb 6, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 72

Tues Feb 9, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 45

Thurs Feb 11, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 46

Sat Feb 13, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 73

Tues Feb 16, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 47

Thurs, Feb 18, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 48

Sat Feb 20, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 74

Tues Feb 23, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 49

Thurs Feb 25, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 50

Sat Feb 27, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 70

Tues Mar 1, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 51

Thurs Mar 3, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT52

Sat Mar 5, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 71

Tues Mar 8, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT53

Thurs Mar 10, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT54

Sat Mar 12, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 72

Tues Mar 15 , 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT55

Thurs Mar 17, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT56

Sat Mar 19, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 73

Tues Mar 22, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT57

Thurs Mar 24, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT58

Sat Mar 26, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 74

Tues Mar 29, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 59

Thurs Mar 31, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 60

Sat Apr 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 75

Tues Apr 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 61

Thurs Apr 7, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT62

Sat Apr 9, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 76

Tues Apr 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT63

Thurs Apr 14, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR GroupPT64

Sat Apr 16, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group 77

Tues Apr 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT65

Thurs Apr 21, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT66

Sat Apr 23, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues Apr 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 67

Thurs Apr 28, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 68

Sat Apr 30, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 3, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 69

Thurs May 5, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 70

Sat May 7, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 10, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 71

Thurs May 12, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 72

Sat May 14, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 17, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 73

Thurs May 19, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT 74

Sat May 21, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 24, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 75

Thurs May 26, 2016 5pm June LSAT BR Group PT76

Sat May 28, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Tues May 31, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PT 77

Thurs Jun 2, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group TBA

Sat Jun 4, 2016 5 p m June LSAT BR Group PEP RALLY

MON JUNE 6, 2016 1:00 LSAT Actual

With 2 months until February, I'm at low 160s(163) most recent. Want to hit 70. I know it's attainable. What's a good schedule to run while not getting burned out? Usually I study every day till i can no longer comprehend a stimulus without being like, "wtf did I just read?!"

I'm taking the December LSAT this weekend in Munich, Germany. I foolishly assumed my test would be in the morning, but it turns out I don't have to be there until 2pm. Does anyone have any advice as to how I should spend my morning/lunch? Should I wake up early to study? Practice a few sections? Drink coffee? Relax and walk around town? Any insight is much appreciated.

Hello,

Can someone please explain to me what's wrong with this argument?

Con: The amount of sleep one gets has minimal correlation to the amount of anxiety and depression he or she feels

Prem: A study showed that the top 5% of sleepers have the same level of anxiety and depression as those who are the bottom 5%

Here's the passage:

A study recently published in a leading magazine showed that, surprisingly, those who are in the top 5 percent in terms of the amount of sleep they get daily, have on average, about the same level of anxiety and depression as those who are in the bottom 5%. This proves conclusively that the amount of sleep one gets has minimal correlation to the amount of anxiety and depression one feels?

What's wrong with this argument and or support?

I have not taken any of the PT's in the 60's or 70's except for PT62. As far as games go I do not want to miss something because I have never even seen a game like it, although I am sure it will still happen. What I mean by this is that the Circle game (for instance) is very unique so I have made sure I really have that game down. Are there any other games types that don't follow our normal set-ups? Also has their been any type of trend for games in the later PT'S? My last week I am really only going over stuff I want to review but am doing games games from Pt's that I have not seen yet in the lower PT Range <30. So anything dire I should see games wise in the most recent 25 PT's?

As always thank you. Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving

Just curious figured someone has to know why.

From the stimulus, I got two conditional statements:

1) knowingly brings about misfortune --> should be blamed

2) not knowingly brings about misfortune --> should not be blamed

But because of the "for example" part, am I supposed to add "could not have reasonably have foreseen it" to the sufficient part of the 2nd cond'l statement I wrote above?

Also, Can anyone please explain why (A) is wrong?

Can I interpret "it did not occur to Riley" in (A) as "not knowingly brings about misfortune?"

Hi all,

I hope someone may be able to clue me in as to what I'm doing wrong with this problem. This is a MBT.

Special kinds of cotton that grow fibers of green or brown have been around since the 1930s but only recently became commercially feasible when a long-fibered variety that can be spun by machine was finally bred. Since the cotton need not be dyed, processing plants avoid the expense of dyeing and the ecological hazards of getting rid of leftover dye and by-products.

So I understood how to diagram the stimulus. "Spun by machine --> commercially viable"

When I looked at answer choice (B): Green and brown cottons that can be spun only by hand are not commercially viable" I diagrammed it as "Spun by hand --> /commercially viable". In order to get to answer choice (B), you would need to negate the sufficient and necessary which gives "/Spun by machine --> /commercially viable" which is an invalid argument form (mistake in negation).

What am I doing wrong? I am having a hard time seeing how answer choice (B) can be diagrammed as "/commercially viable -->spun by hand" Thanks!

Hey Everyone!

I will be withdrawing from the December test by Monday. I will likely register for the June or October test. That said, I think a major problem for me, and likely part of the reason I have to withdraw from the December test, was burnout.

I studied for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for around 4.5 months. By the 4th month, I was drained. I did see a decent improvement (20 points, +-5), but tanked on my last PT.

That said, how should I plan out my breaks? 1 day off per week? Half day off on Sundays? Other suggestions are welcome.

When using the fool proof method for LG, should I be doing the games in groups? For instance, 6 grouping games on week 1, 6 hybrid games on week 2, etc. Or, pick a few random games and do them, then use the fool proof method. The latter makes more sense, since the actual test is not ordered by game-type.

Random question: When you guys grade your PTs, do you count the questions that you guessed on? In other words, do you input them into the grader, and count them towards your final, scaled score? It makes sense that you would, but then again guessing is hit or miss - for instance, on 1 test I blindly guessing 9 questions right, on another, only 3 of my blind guesses were correct.

Thank you!

Hi all,

I've been studying since June, and have been scoring fairly consistently into the 170s within the last 3 months. My average is about a 173. Within the last 3 weeks, I've taken LSATs 72, 73, and 74, and I've seen my lowest scores yet (168, 169, and 167, respectively.)

I'm really freaking out about this, and I just can't believe this is a fluke since it's happened over the past 3 tests. My scores on LG for these tests was below average (at least -3) because I thought the games were unusual or tricky. However, I've also seen decreases in my RC (I usually get -2) and LR (I'm getting above -4 now.)

I can't tell if this is burn out, stress, or all of the above, but I need to decide whether I'm taking the test this Saturday. I already postponed taking the October test.

What do you all think?