I am taking the December LSAT & because a couple of the schools I am applying to have a December deadline for the majority of their better scholarships I was planning on completing all the apps, statements etc in between the exam and the scholarship deadlines. Just curious for those of you who have already completed your apps and submitted your statements, addendum etc. how long did it take to get it all done? I have already gotten my letters of recommendation & transcripts. Just trying to make sure I am leaving myself enough time to do a good job on everything. Also does anyone have any recommendations for good resources to guide you with personal statement choices/process/things to avoid besides the 7Sage personal statement stuff? Thank you in advance.

Can anyone offer any other ideas? I got the email today regarding everything for test day. The name on your ID must exactly match your name on the admission ticket. The only form of ID I have is my drivers license and my last name is incorrect. My last name ends with "rey" but my license has "ery". Of course I need to get my license fixed but I have no acceptable documentation showing the correct spelling of my last name. My birth certificate and social security card also have my name spelled incorrectly as "ery." When I applied for my new license in a new state the guy took the spelling from my birth certificate instead of from my application. I didn't notice the misspelling until I got home but didn't want to go back after spending 2.5 hrs there. Bad decision, in know. I'm going to the DMV tomorrow but I don't have anything with the correct spelling of my name. From researching online it looks like I'll have to file for a name change with the courts. That won't be completed before the December test. I thought about just getting a state ID just to be able to present something to LSAC to change the name, but again, I have no documentation. Anybody have any suggestions? I can't even change the date at this point, I don't think. The deadline was last Friday.

I was between B/E and choose B because I immediately crossed out E b/c of the term HIGHLY productive which isn't stated in the stimulus (but E was right)

- can anyone explain this to me and also why E right over B Thanks :)

I just signed up and purchased the Ultimate course package, and I was able to see the material. I logged out, and I was unable to log back in. I think I signed up with an incorrect/misspelled email address when I actually paid for the account. I had to create a trial account with my correct email so I can post my problem here. I've emailed but haven't had a response yet. I know I should be patient, but I'm kind of freaking out.

Has anyone had this problem?

Please help!! I'm currently working on the curriculum and I'm up to sequencing games with a twist. I've done two games and missed a few. I'm at the third game and I'm having trouble getting through it. I'm missing a few inferences even after watching the explanation. My question is should I continue without getting them right or should I pull out my trainer and logic games bibles and work on drills for inferences. I've extended my curriculum twice .. Please help.

Seems to me that these two websites are the most popular as far as law school research and rankings. I'm finding in several cases that they don't always jive with each other though.

I'm scoring 160s on my PTs, take LSAT in Dec, so I'm not looking at T14. So, it doesn't matter to me that Yale is US News #1 and ATL #6.... What does concern me is that USC (my top prospect) is US News #20 and does not even make the ATL Top 50... and Arizona State (2nd favorite, 2nd highest ranked on my app list) is US News #26 and ATL ~36ish.

Which is the most reliable? Is there a third reliable site I don't know of? How heavily should I concern myself with these rankings/school prestige?

As always, I thank you all in advance for your insights.

I'm having trouble understanding the logical difference between very similar sufficient assumption questions. The questions are from PT 36 SECTION 1 #18 and PT 63 SECTION 1 #10. I'm having trouble understanding why for PT 36 an answer choice (D) that satisfies the sufficient condition of the conclusion is correct but for PT 63 an answer choice (D) that satisfies the sufficient condition of the conclusion is incorrect. Thanks in advance if anyone can help!

I did a full timed test today and during my 15 min break I had nuts, banana and a granola bar. I found myself starving during the last portion of the test. For breakfast I had a big bowl of oatmeal.

Do you think it would be inappropriate if I brought a Chipotle burrito as my snack for the test? If I don't get guac or sour cream if could be considered good brain food?

If not Chipotle, Any suggestions for something more filling?

Sorry for the weird question.

Thanks!

December LSAT is LESS than a month away. AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

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I agree that I most certainly need to take a break from the LSAT, which I am. However, in the mean time I'm trying to work on logic or establishing validity. I've done numerous random worksheets online and in this course on validity and logic. 8/10, I'm getting the logic right as far as drawing valid conclusions and negating statements, drawing could be true and must be true inferences from the logic. However, although I am seemingly able to to identify the the valid and invalid argument forms when it's in its form (for example, A--->B, A--m--> B, etc.), I have a hard time consistently identifying them when I see them in REAL LR questions. Why is that? Almost every quiz I take on drawing valid conclusions, I pretty much nail it. But when it comes to the LR questions such as SA and MBT, or even parallel flaw/reasoning questions, I tend to get the answer wrong. Why is that? Is this normal?

Hello,

What logic form are these? ? And how would you translate this into logic as well as obtain its contrapositive?

I will run for office or I will shut my mouth. I ran for office. Thus, I didn't shut my mouth

If I am literate, then I can read and write. I can read but I can't write. Thus I am not literate

Ok so when you get a question that asks you to find the argument with the most simillar reasoning or matches the arguement above are they never a flawed argument? I know we get questions that ask you to match the flaw but I am hoping to use this thinking to eliminate a wrong answer choice or two is this holds.

In short if the Question stem does not say "flaw" is it ok to assume the correct answer choice and the argument in the stimulus are logical arguments?

Hey everyone!

I am trying to find the best way to study and I was wondering if it is best to study one section (LG, LR, RC) at a time or is it okay to study multiple sections at time?

We debated this question for a long time in Group BR last night. While almost everyone got the correct answer, we were strongly divided about the actual flaw in the stimulus. Some people held the explanation essentially that the argument failed to consider that it was a dichotomy or binary choice. Now, I know JY, Manhattan Forums, and Graeme Blake all state this as the purported flaw of the stimulus, but I find this explanation to be wanting.

Others, including myself, felt that the stimulus was guilty of circular reasoning. To be honest, to explain that an argument fails to consider the possibility of a binary choice seem like a huge assumption. It also seems downright arbitrary. If that were true, wouldn’t that call into question every time we find that an argument is guilty of a false dichotomy? Whereas Circular Reasoning makes sense to me because the conclusion is essentially a restatement of the premises. This explanation requires far less assumptions (especially the difficult-to-swallow “The two options given COULD be the ONLY options”) than those previously mentioned.

I think this is worthy of discussion and I invite mentors, Sages, tutors, and everyone else who wants to to weigh in on it.

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For reference:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-1-question-14/

Hello all,

I really need some sage advice.

I have been following the LG attack strategy and the foolproof review method for LG sections. LG is by far my biggest trouble area. I know you gotta get LG perfect to see scores above 170s. LG is the section that is holding me back in high 160s area, and I am really really desperate to change this before the December test.

People say LG is the easiest section to improve, but for me.... I just can't do games well under a timed condition!! I can solve games well when I am just drilling non-timed.

Besides following the LG attack strategy Mr. Pacifico kindly shared with the community.... is there anything else I should be doing to get perfect on LG....? I would really really appreciate any advice. I never expected LG would be such a problem for me :(

I really can't wait to be done with this exam. I'm starting to get a headache every time I see a question. I feel like I've put a lot of time and energy into this exam but am not getting the results I want. I gave up on trying to score in the high 160s. Hell, I'll be happy with a solid 155, but it seems impossible to achieve, despite my efforts. I am not reconsidering going to law school at all, but I really wish I could just get past this rough patch in my life, known as the LSAT. I feel like I'm in a bind. On one hand, I can't just say F it because if my score is below average, I doubt if I can get into a decent school. On the other hand, I'm struggling to get into the 150s, Lord help me!

Just throwing this out there, has anyone/a sibling/a friend played a club sport while attending law school? The schools I'm eyeing these days have club hockey teams that practice 2h/wk and play 2 games/weekend (~8-10h/wk commitment). Wondering if anyone knows if this is feasible, or if I need a reality check. I'm definitely eligible by NCAA rules and regs, but I'm going to law school to learn and network, not to screw around and graduate with no employment. Thus, if it would make more sense to devote myself to a moot court or an academic club, then I will do so...but it would be really nice if I could do it all.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks all.

Can someone please explain why C is the correct answer and A is wrong.... And also maybe a guide how to approach a similar question.

I am doing the Miscellaneous Questions Problem Set 5, and 18.4.21 has me really confused. I googled the meaning and got this: http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/11060/how-to-use-what-is-more

To me it boils down to "furthermore." If that is the case, then how is B not the correct answer? Wouldn't starting your response argument with "furthermore..." mean that you are using the same premises as the previous argument?

Independently, I don't see how E accurately describes the relationship between the arguments. What is the conflicting supposition? I think this answer choice is trying to get you to assume that since there is no general agreement in evaluating the merits of sound (Jane's argument), Mark's claim about "tonal quality" conflicts with that idea. But, isn't tone a more refined idea than sound?

I Googled the definition of sound and got: "vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear." The definition of tone according to Google is: "A musical tone is a steady periodic sound. A musical tone is characterized by its duration, pitch, intensity (or loudness), and timbre (or quality). The notes used in music can be more complex than musical tones, as they may include aperiodic aspects, such as attack transients, vibrato, and envelope modulation."

Sound to me could be anything: random noises to steady/periodic/intentional sound choice. Musical tone, which is a type of sound, has to more with the latter than the former. Doesn't this mean that Jane's premises about sound and Mark's premise about tone both be true? Aren't sound and tone related, but not completely synonymous? I don't see how they necessarily conflict, which is what answer choice E states.

In the LSAT Ultimate course package, I noticed that full explanations for LSAT exams before PT 36 are provided when watching individual explanations for problem sets. Is there a direct way I can access these explanations without having to first find an explanation for a problem set?

Help

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For reference: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-4-question-22/

Hello all!

I am taking the LSAT in February and I am on a very tight budget but was wondering if the LSAT Starter is sufficient? Will it only be helpful for easy question sets or will I be able to utilize the skills in the LSAT Starter to sufficiently solve difficult problem sets as well? My concern is not being able to master difficult problems on the exam.

Would anyone be willing to discuss their explanations with me? I have handful of questions from each section, especially Game 3.

Hey Guys,

I was wondering if anyone knows what I can do regarding the December 5th LSAT. I was scheduled to write; however, I got into a terrible car accident 3 days ago. Does anyone know if LSAC is willing to reimburse me for the cost or at least move it to a later date without penalty?

Any feedback is helpful. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Hello all!

I recently finished taking PT 58 and 59, and got the same exact score!(feeling slightly bummed) I would love to have a skype/google hangout group where we can discuss PT 58 and PT 59 in detail! If anyone is interested? Let me know :)