Hello all!

So I recently started the 7Sage Curriculum from the beginning again and I also have Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. My question is, would it better to go through the 7Sage curriculum first and then focus on the LSAT Trainer, or could I do both simultaneously? I dont want to do anything that may be detrimental when it comes to how best to prepare. Also, if I do both simultaneously, is it in my best interest to only do the same topic in the Trainer as I am doing in 7Sage or would it be okay to work on different areas? Thanks for the advice and help!

We're so excited to be bringing you four (yes, four) FREE webinars this week.

Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do plan to make webinars available to 7sage's students in the future as part of the paid course. So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.

Necessary Assumptions with Sage Jimmy Dahroug

Friday 2/12 at 6pm ET

Sage Jimmy (173) is offering an intensive on Necessary Assumption questions. As a primer, take a look at this classic video:

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Necessary Assumptions with Sage Jimmy Dahroug

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 5:00 PM - 6:30 PM CST

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Like a lot of you who took the LSAT last weekend, I found the RC section to be incredibly difficult. I'm not good at RC to begin with and typically have to skip an entire passage because I don't read fast enough.

This past weekend I decided to stick with my strategy and do only 3 passages, but go slowly and make sure that I'm reasonably accurate. Well, I'm afraid that strategy may have backfired on me. I knew once I read the first passage that LSAC had come out swinging with a really tough RC section since I struggled to maintain my focus and felt like I wasn't retaining much from the passage. I ended up taking my time with three passages only, but I wasn't very confident in the answers I chose. The first passage took me a lot longer than usual. Once I got to the second passage (the one about employee rights), I couldn't focus. I re-read the first paragraph twice and lost my focus completely and didn't retain anything so I skipped it and moved onto the third and fourth passages. The fourth passage about hedges was very difficult, but I didn't find the comparative passage about smart growth too bad. I'm starting to regret skipping the second passage and am wishing I would have tried reading it again. But then again, maybe I would have wasted even more time struggling with the passage. I find that the second passage is typically easier than the fourth, so I'm worried that I might have missed out on an easy passage and/or easy questions.

I know I can't go back and change this now, but I just needed to vent and get it off my chest. I'm just hoping that skipping the employee rights passage (opposed to skipping the hedges passage) didn't hurt my score too much. In an ideal world I would've liked to have finished them all, but I think if I would have gone any faster I would have sacrificed a lot of accuracy. I feel like I'm rehashing my performance in my head and remembering things that might make for a less than ideal score.

Is anyone else torturing themselves about their RC performance last Saturday?

Proctors: Two proctors onsite. The proctor in charge did not speak English well so it was a challenge to understand instructions which made the test takers uneasy. Also, he seemed new to the entire process so was not always sure about what he was saying. That said, both proctors were nice.

Facilities: Nice big building with plenty of room to hang out and even get food. Nice overall.

What kind of room: Small classroom were used. It was nice and clean.

How many in the room: Approx. 16 ppl per room with 2 proctors assigned to each room.

Desks: Small desks but enough room for test material and supplies. Did not negatively impact test experience.

Left-handed accommodation:Nope

Noise levels: Nice and quiet. No noise issue.

Parking: Plenty of complimentary parking on campus for visitors.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Approx. 1 hour. They were running late with registration of the test takers. Did not get assigned to the room until around 9:30am. Was done with the test around 2:15pm.

Irregularities or mishaps: See above re: running late. Also, the ppl doing the registration were not sure which items were not allowed/allowed which took some time to sort out.

Other comments: I would not arrive early since there is significant wait time for registration and assignment to the test room.

Would you take the test here again? Yes. Campus is nice and big. Actual room for test was also nice and quiet. Proctors were nice as well.

Has anyone ever received a text message as part of the recruiting process? I've recently gained admission to a top law school with a scholarship offer. Today I received a text message from someone at the law school.

I'm really just curious as I've never seen this mentioned anywhere.

Hey guys! Here's the official Feb. LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the Feb. 2016 LSAT here.

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Feb '16 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

One exception is you can say which section was the experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about February's LSAT!

Have fun discussing!

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Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

- Pillows and Mirrors

- Madrid, Paris, and London / Cities

- Volunteers

- Photographs of Authors / Bookstore

RC:

- Shrubs & Bushes

- Urban Smart Growth / Suburban Sprawl

- Employees Rights / Workplace Ethics

- Female Sculptor

LR:

- Moths / Bats / Tweek Tweek Sound

- Physics / Psychology

- Intention Pollution

- Politican

- High Cholesterol

- Vital Interests

- Nests / Fleas

- Broca Area / Bilinguals

- Altruistic Behavior / Monkeys

- Redefining Church

- Bacteria Fungi

- Wolves and Wolf Subspecies

- Machine with blue/green light

- Outdoors vs. Treadmill

- Intentionally creating art

- Electronic toll systems

- Burglars with initials G and S

- Cellphone insurance deductible

- Laughter and social bonding

- Desires and beliefs

- Absinthe

- Neanderthals' food

- Expanding downtown

- Damming a river

- Gala / Music Awards

- Skin Disorder / Cancer

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by replying to this thread or PMing me.

None right now!

Hello again I have another question. Ever since I began my prep I've been able to raise my PT scores by ~9 points from the low 140s to the low 150s. I have taken about 10 PTs excluding my Diagnostic and most of them were taken during the winter break(I am a senior in college). I know most of the Senpais here strongly advise against BR'ing whole PTs from the numerous threads that I've lurked on and against their advice, I have been BR'ing whole PTs for all the PTs I've taken so far. However, I have found that doing this method is extremely exhausting during the actual semester and hardly leaves me any time for actual school work. As a result, I have fallen behind on my PT schedule.I Originally planned to take 2 PTs a week with solid BR and Fool-Proof but now I am 4 Whole PTs behind schedule. I guess my question is, for anyone who has switched from BR'ing whole PTs to just the questions you miss(the actual proper recommended way), how has it affected your prep? Do you feel it more effective/efficient? Does it save A LOT more time? Does the proper method allow for a lot less stress? I had planned on BR'ing whole PTs until I was consistently hitting the low 160s but lately I've been thinking that I may need to start now to avoid falling further behind. Any insight from anyone who has had an experience with this would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch in advance and sorry for the lengthiness.

PT16-S1-G1, trying to setup the rules with conditionals and having a bit of an issue trying to figure out why Rule 3 " Neither S nor W can be added to the same class as Y" is a biconditional for S-Y and S-W instead of just a single conditional. Biconditionals are either/or/but not both and I cannot for the the life of me back that out from this conditional statement. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can work out S-->/Y based on group 4 negate necessary but that's all........

Link to question and explanation:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-2-question-24/

I watched J.Y.s explanation and he says that we're presuming the documents were in fact opened. But, is it really a presumption when the author explicitly says "WHEN the document was opened"? The author says when (in other words "if") the document is opened, then Y results. And then with (A), we're just confirming the sufficient condition, saying yes it was opened. Is that considered an assumption?

Dear 7Sagers,

Do you give your PS a title? Why or why not? I can't decide right now..

Thank you!

When entering my pretest answers in the analytics , I put B on all the questions that I did not have time to get to. Is this ok still to find out my weakest areas in the pre-test sections?

We're so excited to be bringing you four (yes, four) FREE webinars this week.

Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do plan to make webinars available to 7sage's students in the future as part of the paid course. So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.

Timing Strategies with Sage Corey Janson

Thursday, February 11th | 9pm ET

Sage Corey (176) wants us to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run. Join us for an intensive on everyone's favorite LSAT topic: timing strategies. Questions/topics include:

—Worried about skipping and not having time to come back?

—Timing data from an actual PT Corey's taken just for us

—How to generally improve your timing

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Timing Strategies with Sage Corey Janson | Thurs. 2/11 at 9pm ET

Thu, Feb 11, 2016 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM CST

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Thank you so much for the support here at 7sage! I would like to share my notes after learning all the lessons from various sources.

Reasoning Structure Questions:

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Opinion Questions:

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Detail Questions:

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Good Luck!!!

were just getting the item response answer sheet (not the actual test to look at) for FEB 16 LSAT right?

We’re doing a double!!!!

Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR

Thursday, Feb 11th at 1PM ET: PT 46

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Thursday, Feb 11th at 8PM ET: PT 73

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June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70 - 75 because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 76 and 77 available to PT in May. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice. And if you don’t feel comfortable hitting the 70s yet, don’t worry. We’re going to repeat this cycle of PT 70-75 at the end of February just in case.

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

Note:

If need be, I plan on taking the LSAT for a fourth time.. (depending on feb score)

My first take was in June 2014, since then I've taken it two more times. Will I be able to take it again June 2016? Does that follow the 3 times in 2 years rule? I believe I read it is 2 years from your first write?

I have been working on logic games really hard. Yes, I have made vast improvements that I am happy with. However, I notice that on logic games from approximately 1990’s to early 2000’s, many of the games seem “weird.” In short, I do a lot better with the more recent games.

Is this something that I should be worried about???

June Test Takers! Great work last week, gang! Because there was demand for an earlier BR session, we’re now also doing Wednesday at 12pm EST. Please let us know in the comments if you plan on coming or if you’d like any adjustments to be made.

Here’s the schedule this week:

BR GROUPS

Tuesday, Feb 9th at 8PM ET: PT 45

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Thursday, Feb 11th at 1PM ET: PT 46

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Thursday, Feb 11th at 8PM ET: PT 73

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LSATurday, Feb 13th at 8PM ET: PT46

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June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

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HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

I went through the cirriculum, and now I am left with taking exams. I still am not comfortable with games and I would like to revisit parts of the cirriculum for some of the LR questions that I have issues with. And obviously since I have done all of the RC sections I will just do some from extra exams that I bought. I would like to spend another month doing the LG bundles from exams 1-35 (which I have not had a chance to do, because I was heavily involved learning the cirriculum). Also I think revisiting some of the LR, if not all of the LR lessons and the practice problems will help me grasp a quicker understanding of the cirriculum. So I will not be learning every single lesson again from scratch because I think that would be a waste. I am mainly doing this to give myself time to get comfortable with games because the cirriculum did not help so much with games and I was advised by @Pacifico to do the bundles and until I feel comfortable then I should begin PTing.

The biggest issue of course is time, meaning I will have 3 months left of PTing and not 4 months. But I feel like if I start now I will jsut waste exams. I believe that I need another month to get better at this test. So is it an issue to do 3 PTs a week from the second half of March to June? I feel like maybe I can start with two for the first couple weeks and then I can get rolling to 3 a week. I honestly just feel like right now going into the exams with a bad foundation for games will only hurt my score. Plus I can review LR lessons for a whole month as well as do 90-95 percent of the game bundles, so isnt it a win/win?

Id rather take 3 PTs a week and feel like I am comfortable to take them, rather than 2 a week and just bomb the game sections.

Hi ya,

I am new here, just signed up and preparing to take the June lsat. I have being seeing posts about BR and was just wondering what it entails.

I've studied for many months and I'm really hoping that 7sage helps me out a lot. I've self studied the PS bibles and gone through a BP prep course. I've even taken a full year off to work and completely stop studying the LSAT. My fault is that I did not retain a lot of techniques and strategies with such a lengthy break, and while material is familiar, a lot of it still feels mildly new. Another fault of mine back with my pre-7sage LSAT prep is my lack of focus and dedication.

I'm 1-2 weeks away from reaching the portion of the course that is filled with 2-3 prep tests a week until my actual test date in June. I'm wondering about the rate of improvement some of you have seen with the set study schedule in place.

Strategies for 170+ Prep with Allison Gill Sanford

Wednesday, February 10th | 9pm ET

Allison (173) has prepared an exciting webinar dedicated to strategies for 170+ prep. Even if your goal score falls outside this range, every LSAT taker will benefit from this webinar. Learn what it REALLY takes to get a 99th percentile score from someone who's done it!

Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do make past webinar videos available to anyone with a paid course at 7sage.com/webinar . So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.

Can someone help me with this? It is one of the questions where the reasoning for the right answer completely eludes me...

The MSS Question basically states that:

"There is a difference between morals and manners. Manners are 'necessarily social in nature', whereas morals are 'not necessarily social in nature'. 'So the rules of etiquette do not apply when one is alone.'

The correct answer is:

A: "One could be immoral without ever having caused any other person any harm." - Huh?

I went with:

E: "What is social in nature could not be a matter of morality." - I figured, sure why not, if morals are 'not necessarily social in nature' and manners are, then something, say a manner, could definitely be social in nature while not a matter of morality... Right?

I'm caught in this trap where I try to spend as many possible hours as I can reviewing and studying PTs but I think not having a definite boundary has been detrimental. I'm more likely to be fatigued and the quality of my studying drops since I spread my time out so generally. I think I could focus a lot more by dedicating some amount of time to coordinate myself, but I don't know what would be enough. Maybe I think that 8 hours is necessary for example but it turns out I could do everything in 4 or 5. I know this is different from person to person, but I'd like to hear different kinds of approaches. Is there something you've found that works for you?

I'll be taking the LSAT this Saturday, and I feel much better about it this time around thanks to 7Sage. (You guys rock!) However, I'm finding that I have a LOT of nervous energy (read: I'm having trouble sitting still long enough to focus on reviewing this week). I did the same thing the first time I took the test, which culminated in a mostly sleepless night before the big day, even though I went to bed in plenty of time. I think I tossed and turned for at least four or five of the eight hours that I had allotted for sleep, though I didn't feel tired at all the next day, which I attributed to adrenaline.

Given that I didn't do as well as I wanted to that time, I'm hoping to avoid the same scenario this go round. I've taken off work the Friday before the test, and I was thinking about checking out a local martial arts studio to both take my mind off the test, and, hopefully, wear out all my nervous energy so that I will sleep well Friday night. Does anyone have any other suggestions for staying energized but focus this week and for getting a good night's sleep on Friday so I (and all my fellow 7Sagers) can rock this test?