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Ok folks, a lot of us around here are waiting on Gray Day results for the December test. This is, as always, and occasion for solidarity. What are you doing instead of driving yourself crazy??

As for me, I'm playing Fallout 4 (Oh, and ... finishing apps :) ) and trying to heal from my first Crossfit experience (#brutality).

Here's my F4 character (I think Paladin Danse is gonna make a move soon):

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You all have been asking for PT 76 explanations, and they're finally ready. To kick things off, we're putting them out for 80% off!

Video explanations for PT 76 are now available for $5.97 (Regular price: $29.97) for a limited time.

You also get +1 month to your existing 7Sage account for the purchase.

https://classic.7sage.com/addons/?ss_select=lsat_76

Early bird discount expires January 1st.

(If the link doesn't work: Mouse over "Course" in the menu, click "Extensions and Addons". You should see PrepTest 76 after scrolling about one screen down.)

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I'm sitting for the Feb test, and if I could consistently get games to -1 or -0 as so many people say is possible then I'd be hitting 175+ on almost every test. I've read the games bible twice, I've done almost every game from preptests 7-38 several times with 7sage explanations, and yet I still can't seem to adapt to new wrinkles when I see a game for the first time. Time is an issue, as I constantly have to mechanically refer to the rules to check my work on questions. Diagramming any type of slightly unusual game is a huge problem. I'm particularly bad at seeing spatial patterns within games.

I don't know if I should stick with the strategy of repetition or what. Maybe the games will just get easier as I do the newer tests? I just have no confidence on this section whatsoever because my performance is so unreliable.

Any suggestions?

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"Hey, I hope you guys don’t mind me dropping in on this epic thread. I did so because I wanted to clarify the point above, so that everyone understood how it works. For June and October, LSAC typically gives us (test prep companies) a heads-up that scores will be released that day. They don’t do that for February, because that LSAT is not released to the public. In December, it depends on when the test is released. If it’s released during the LSAC break or on a holiday, no company gets prior notice (because there’s no admins there). So, if scores are released any time in the next four days, no one will know until the indicators go gray. I know that’s confusing, but that’s just how they do it. If it was up to me, I’d release your scores right now!

Anyway, I just thought that was worth knowing. Thanks!"

-CEO of Powerscore

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=257421&start=25750

Admin edit: No titles in all caps please :)

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This was pretty tricky, and I got it right, but I still don’t have a good understanding of what is technically wrong with A. How is answer choice A not directly contradicting one of P’s premises? It must not because it isn’t the right answer choice.

Video link: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-15/

L: You philosophers say that linguists don’t understand language, but you haven’t provided evidence of that.

P: You say that “J and I are siblings” means the same thing as “I and J are siblings.” This isn’t true since the word order is different. For two things to be identical, everything must be the same.

What I am looking for: Both make pretty bad arguments (L makes an absence of evidence flaw), but we really only need to undermine P’s reasoning. P is wrong because he misses the point of what it means to “understand language.” The order of the words doesn’t matter necessarily; it’s the total meaning that matters. P assumes that “identical meaning” is influenced by the “physical” placement of the words.

Answer A: To me, this is attacking one of P’s premises directly (and that was one of the reasons I didn’t pick this one). Attacking the premise is technically an OK way to undermine an argument; the real issue is that the LSAT is very good at creating answer choices that SEEM to attack premises, but they really don’t. This one is different in my mind since it flat out contradicts the final independent clause of P's fact pattern. P defines “identical things” as “things having all of the same attributes.” If L responded, “I disagree with your definition since two things can have a few minor differences and be identical [referring to minor differences in physical structure, but identical meaning]” doesn’t this weaken the argument by directly attacking the truth of P's premise?

Answer B: I think this strengthens P’s argument since it provides another way that differences (context) matter.

Answer C: Wtf?

Answer D: This more succinctly hits the main point, and it is a much better answer choice that A. The issue is over “meaning," not the order of the words.

Answer E: More experience? So what?

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Can't remember where I saw a picture of a PT with tape as a binder but it made me wonder if there is an easy way to more mimic testing conditions with a bound test. On a positive note, having the PT on loose pages actually slows me down forcing me to move quicker thru the PT. Curious about ingenious ideas to take PTs beyond diapers strategies:)

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Last comment thursday, dec 31 2015

LSAC GPA Calculation

I believe I have a strange situation regarding my LSAC GPA calculation. In high school I took dual-credit courses with the local junior college that partnered with my HS. We could take these courses that would give us college credit but would not count towards our college GPA; instead, the grade we received counted towards our HS GPA. The JC represented these courses on the transcript as a 'B' that was not calculated in the GPA and my University did the same with the added detail that it was a transfer credit from the JC. However, LSAC included these B's in my cumulative GPA. The coincidental part is that my cumulative GPA is the same whether or not those grades are included in the calculation since my cumlative GPA is a 3.03. The only difference if these grades are included is that some semesters they decrease my cumulative and other semesters they increase my cumulative. If I had actually studied in college and had a 4.0 I would be pissed that these B's were included in my cumulative when I actually earned A's as far as my HS is concerned, but since it's the same either way I don't know what I should do. Should I contact LSAC or the JC to say that these grades should not be included in the cumulative calculation? I would think it would look better to Law Schools if these courses were just listed as credits instead of B's even though the ending cumulative GPA calculation is the same no matter what.

Anyone have any thoughts on this confusing situation? Thanks!

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Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas!!!!

Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR

Tuesday, Dec. 29th at 8PM ET: PT33

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

EVERYBODY GETS A GOTOMEETING! YAY!!!

June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

I’ll be there for a while. :) Hope to see you there!

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    wondering what people think about this issue? would it be better to attend a school ranked from 16-20 with full/near-full scholarship vs a school ranked from 10-14 but with no scholarship? I thought I wanted biglaw but now I'd like to keep my options open, especially after talking to people that work in biglaw. obviously t14 with substantial scholarship is the best option but i don't think that is likely.

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    Febbers! We’re less than 6 weeks away! Come to Group BR tonight!

    Wednesday, Dec 30th at 8PM ET: PT66

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    IF YOU DON’T CLICK THIS LINK YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BR GROUP

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments that you’re planning on attending.

    February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    June Test Takers! We’ve got over 5 months, so let’s make them count by getting our fundamentals down!

    Here’s the schedule this week:

    BR GROUPS

    Tuesday, Dec. 29th at 8PM ET: PT 33

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    LSATurday, Jan. 2nd at 8PM ET: PT34

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

    Note: these tests (PTs 29-35) are part of the 7Sage curriculum and, for all intents and purposes, are retakes. That being said, I think it’s a great way to build up our LSAT fluency by taking an actual PT without having to use the modern tests until we absolutely have to. Another way of thinking about this is we are essentially going to do BR groups of the 7Sage curriculum, something I know a lot of students have requested. Some people might disagree with me, but I don’t think it wouldn't be a waste of time or effort for someone who is still working through the curriculum to do this PT, BR it and then meet up for the call.

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now, we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs. (It’s also why we’ve already released the link to the workshop!) More details to come!

    HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

    Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment wednesday, dec 30 2015

    New Video! PT57.S1.G3

    @"J.Y. Ping" is hard at work updating and upgrading some of 7sage's video content. One of the best features of 7sage is that the course is constantly evolving. I'll be sharing some cool new features and examples of updated content over the next few weeks.

    While we're all gearing up for February/June or waiting for Gray Day, let's enjoy this first installment—guess which game it is?

    New video explanation (always free) for this game here:

    And solved with sub-gameboards here:

    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-1-game-3

    Bonus: for those with paid accounts, this page includes an additional video with live commentary!

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    Last comment wednesday, dec 30 2015

    Resume question

    On my resume I listed my current GPA which includes this most recent semester's grades. However, Lsac has not processed my updated transcript yet so the gpa listed there is like .02 lower than my gpa now. I plan to submit my applications as soon as the score comes in from dec test which I anticipate being sooner than they process my transcript. Will the ad comms recognize that my gpa on my resume is reflecting current term or will it come off as disingenuous if they don't have my new transcript yet?

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    Should the PS and the DS be clearly distinct, or is overlap ok? I want to hone in on my adverse experiences and how they have shaped me in my PS, but I am realizing this is also what I could use to craft a great DS. Should I use this info in a DS and go a different route in the PS? Any help would be appreciated.

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    Everyone’s schedules are hectic especially during the holidays but I want to encourage everyone to attend a webinar. Fortunately, my schedule has allowed me to attend all of the webinars and I have gained invaluable insight and value during the sessions. Having the mentors break down their thought processes and strategies has given new meaning to the “one size doesn’t fit all” when tackling this beast of a test. We are the benefactors of exceptional people taking personal time to share their knowledge and experiences – high & low – so that we can achieve or even surpass our goals. I am so thankful for this community and the webinars are another example of how members that have benefited from being a part of 7Sage are passing their experiences and wisdom forward to us. The truly interactive experience in the Webinars and Blind Review calls is where I am learning how to apply the knowledge gained from the curriculum. Whether on "mute" as some of us have had to do, being a part "real-time" can make a difference in the value of the sessions. We are fortunate that the webinars are recorded but there is so much more to be gained if you can attend – the running chat dialogue is challenging and supportive, volunteers are given a free tutor session, and the Q&A part not recorded is possibly the most invaluable aspect of the sessions (hint: don’t leave the sessions unless you have time constraints and ask questions!!). Thanks again to everyone involved:)

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    Things are moving so quickly for me during the exam that I really have no idea how I'm doing while taking the exam. Many times I think I'm doing a lot worse than I really am and this destroys my confidence for the rest of the test. For example I took PT58 last week and thought I did really poorly on the first two sections, LR and RC. Turned out that I got a combined -6 between the two sections. On the last two sections, which were considered much easier according to the 7sage analytics, I went -8 resulting in a 167 score. And one of the sections was LG. During the break all I thought about were the first two sections and how I screwed up, and I think this thinking affected me for the rest of the test. After the test was done I honestly thought there was no way I scored a 160+. Let me add that I finish sections just in time and maybe that's my problem since there's no time for me took double check. So my question in short is what do you think I can do to remain mentally strong throughout the entire test? Any advice would be really helpful as this problem has been plaguing me on almost every test.

    Also, it takes me an incredibly long time to BR because I circle so many damn questions, even ones from 1-10. It seems like I'm 100% sure on just a handful of questions each PT when taking the test timed. And that's what I hate about this test: no matter how much I study there's always that feeling of uncertainty during the test. I am always envious of those that only circle like 2-3 LR questions per section. Are those people really 100% sure that they've nailed each and every one of those questions? I can get to that point during BR ( my BR scores are around 175) but no way in hell can I ever do that timed.

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    Last comment tuesday, dec 29 2015

    Personal Statement edit

    Hi guys,

    I was wondering if anyone had a couple minutes to look over my personal statement. I've gotten a couple friends to look at it and I have changed it multiple times (drastically). I was just hoping to have someone with a fresh POV to check it out.

    I'm willing to edit your personal statement in return! I was an English major in undergrad so I can guarantee great grammar skills. In terms of personal statement expertise though, I'm no expert but I can do my best to help you out.

    Thank you so much!

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    I don't understand the correct answer for this one at all. Can someone breakdown why all the wrong ones are correct and D is correct? Here is my breakdown:

    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-3-passage-3-questions/

    Answer A: This is what I picked both times, I don’t really see what’s wrong with it. Doesn’t legally requiring something describe US/Canadian law while not legally requiring it parallel Roman law? To me, this is perfect…

    Answer B: Roman law didn’t make anything illegal, so this isn’t it.

    Answer C: Roman law didn’t distinguish between legality, so this isn’t it.

    Answer D: Completely dumbfounded how this could possibly be the answer. Roman law didn’t make blackmail illegal outright. You had to show harm, and THAT made it illegal. I don’t see how this is analogous to Roman law in the slightest…

    Answer E: Higher fines? Roman law didn’t have harsher punishment.

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    Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

    Wednesday, Dec 30th at 8PM ET: PT66

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    LSATurday, Jan. 2nd at 8PM ET: PT67

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment monday, dec 28 2015

    Older PTs

    Just finished my second PT (#12) and it seemed significantly easier than the 2007 diagnostic. In particular, RC was a breeze. Reading some previous discussions, I get the impression that older tests have certain sections that are easier, while other sections may be tougher. At what point do the PTs start to closely resemble current iterations of the LSAT?

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    Dear 7Sagers,

    We are proud to announce that Nicole Hopkins has joined the 7Sage family as Community Leader and Communications Director.

    She will be helping us shape the development of this wonderful community and to spread the word about 7Sage.

    This means a lot to us. We started the Discussion Forums on 7Sage hoping to cultivate a caring community and you guys have completely exceeded our expectations. Nicole in particular has given so much of her time, thoughts, and energy to growing this community while studying for the LSAT herself. We feel warm and fuzzy that she will be able to continue to help all of us in a more official capacity.

    I hope you will join me in welcoming her to her new role. Let's all give her the support that she has so generously given us.

    Happy holidays,

    J.Y.

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    Last comment monday, dec 28 2015

    Study buddy in Atlanta area!!

    Hello everyone I'm new here if there is anyone in the Atlanta area that would like to bounce ideas off each and self correct please let me know. . I'm better with another person???

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