Hi everyone,

I've been struggling to improve for a few months now and can't seem to get more than 18 right in a logic game section. I've done all the lessons in the core curriculum and regularly do the foolproof method. I still can't finish all four games completely. I know my issue isn't understanding the fundamental concepts because I'll complete the most difficult games without any error but then get a few wrong on the simplest games.

It's been frustrating and I was hoping the experts on here could give me a few tips to push past this plateau.

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I have been struggling with timing and anxiety with the clock running, which I feel like is developing because I keep over thinking even the simplest of problems. I recently took a preptest and got a 161 timed and my blind review was a 171. Pretty big difference, and proud of myself for the blind review score. Most of my mistakes come from logical reasoning. I actually usually have about 1 1/2 minutes at the end of each section.

Any tips on how to learn how to close this gap that have worked for you guys?

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Real Sections:

LG:

- Team / Leadership Position

- Things made in 1920s

- Recordings / 2 Being Recorded While The Rest Weren't

- Tables at a Fair / Sundial (Table / Vase / Lamp question)

RC:

- High Art / Elite Classes

- CFCs / Ozone

- Legal Matters / Jury Nullification

- Clay / Cuneiform Tablets

LR:

- Brabblers / Birds

- Warm Sea / Jupiter's Moon Europa

- Oxygen Depletion / Levels

- Mayor / Indifference of Voters

- Iron to Prevent Parkinson's

- CEO / Lawyer

- Chocolate Desserts High Calories / Fatty

- World Literature / National Interest

- Hiring Lawyer to Write Will vs. Doing it Yourself

- Sociology / Psychology

- Movie Technology / Recovering Costs

- City of Troy

Experimental Sections:

LG:

- Bicycle Factories / Parts

- Lead Actor Understudy

- Septic Tank

- Fridges

- Oil Art / Gallery

RC:

- Movies made for TVs

- Blues / Musicians (RC)

- Farming Fish / Overfishing

- Computer Simulation in UK Courtroom

- Musical Iconography (?)

- Chem vs. Physics

LR:

- Heme and Non-Heme Food / Nutritional Value

- Hot Cocoa

UNCONFIRMED:

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- Coffee & Water in Water Heater

- Large Mall Bookstores / Sell Magazines

- Cereal / Whole Grains

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Did anyone find a more simpler way to tackle game 4 in this pt?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-2-game-4/

I'm having trouble figuring out the argument in this stimulus. I believe its saying:

Premise: While health care in other Western countries is supported by their tax revenues, the US government does not provide health care via tax. The US public health-care expense is ~5% of the GDP, but private is 7%. Thus, this 7% is tax.

Conclusion: It is incorrect to say that people of the US are "lightly taxed."

What the hell does that mean? This argument literally makes no sense. I can't follow which is probably why I can't pinpoint the flaw.

Any input would be helpful!

I seem to have a good grasp on these, getting them down to the last 2 possible answers-85% of the time choosing the right answer. But, in my opinion, for more than 75% of the correct answers they never tend to be the comparative answers. Is it safe to say that majority of the time the answers are NOT comparative, unless the subject within the statement has a comparison?

A while back I completed the "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" and "Sequencing Games with a Twist" sections of the CC. I was struggling, so I decided to foolproof the games in those sections before moving on in the curriculum. I went with the Pacifico attack strategy for foolproofing, because it seemed straightforward and organized.

As of now, I have finished foolproofing all the games in the "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" section, and most of the games in "Sequencing Games with a Twist".

I have come across the following issue: On my second attempt at the game (after watching the video), I usually do pretty well and may even hit the target time. My third attempt (the next day) is pretty good as well, usually even better than the second attempt. However, when I attempt the game for the 4th time, (a week later) I either get questions wrong or I exceed the target time. It seems that I easily forget how to efficiently make the inferences. Therefore, I am currently at a bit of a loss regarding what I should do next.

Any advice would be sincerely appreciated!

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While Ive been working through BRing Reading Comp passages in the past week, Ive been using outside explanations to help me understand where my gap in reasoning lies. While I think it might help in the long run, its inevitably extremely difficult to remember the logical reasoning behind every single question. That being said, would I be better off figuring out the logical reasoning on my own or continuing to use outside explanations for right/wrong answers? My concern is whether I am cheating the process by possibly not fully thinking it through on my own. Any tips will be helpful! Thanks!

Hi!

Has anybody taken the LSAT at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center?

Can you describe your experience there? (types of chairs, desks/tables, air conditioning, proctors, etc.)

I took the LSAT at McGeorge Law School (Sacramento, CA) in July. I've been taking practice tests and preparing for the LSAT at the McGeorge location all year. I'm a little nervous retaking it at a place I've never been.

I just got invited to do a group interview with Dean Cornblatt... but I already did an alumni interview in mid-December and haven't heard back since. Has anyone else had this experience or know what it could mean?

Is there a wait period for a rejected application to a law school with rolling admissions? For example, if you apply in the fall and get rejected, can you reapply in the spring, or do you have to wait until the following calendar year?

Hi everyone! I have a discord LSAT study group with 25 members and it's a very new group with mainly Loophole students. But we're starting to drill more via 7Sage and have scheduled a few group drilling sessions this week. We'd love to welcome anyone who would like to join our Wrong Answer Review session tomorrow and a 10 Questions or Die session on Saturday!

The Discord invite is https://discord.gg/EsVqSsRU. Or you can just add my Discord user (cutiminti). Hope to see some of you there :)

Biologist's argument: DF (deforestation continues at its present pace) -> KAE (the koala will approach extinction)

Politician's argument: /DF (stop deforestation) -> /KAE (save the koala)

So the politician's argument is a mistaken negation of the biologist's argument.

(A) is wrong because we do not know whether deforestation continues at its "present pace" so we do not know whether this is consistent with the biologist's claim.

(B) is right because even though deforestation is stopped, the koala could go extinct because deforestation could have stopped as a result of complete destruction of forests.

(C) is wrong because no one talks about reforestation.

(D) is wrong because it is consistent with the politician's argument rather than the biologist's

(E) is wrong because the biologist's argument says that the koala does not approach extinction only if deforestation does not continue at its present pace

Is my explanation correct for this question? Could anyone add explanation for this question? Thanks

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Proctors: All the proctors were really nice and courteous. The only issue we had in our room was that a lady miscounted the people in the room... twice!! We had to sit there an extra ten minutes for them to figure out what the heck what going on.

Facilities: The building is beautiful (restrooms and testing rooms). Nothing to complain about here.

What kind of room: Law Classrooms

How many in the room: I don't remember the exact number, but it was in the range of about 20 - 30.

Desks: The desks were in good condition and pretty sturdy. They are the standard long desks a few people share as they face toward the front.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Other than the other people sitting around you? Nothing out of the ordinary... except I had a guy blowing his nose every 5 min...

Parking: Parking is a breeze. It's right next to the building. I'm actually not sure if I had to pay for parking, but I did it anyway. It was $5, the last thing I wanted to worry about that day was whether I had to pay for parking.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30 min.

Irregularities or mishaps: I briefly mentioned this part above.

Other comments: Nope.

Would you take the test here again? Sure!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 7th 2015

I submitted it but on LSAC it still says exam initiated. Is that normal? Should it say something else? I had the perfect essay!!!!

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Looking for someone to study with that is likely going to score north of 170.

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When looking at the sections that I should focus on I see "Expected LSAT questions 0" for a certain topics. Does this mean I will absolutely not see this style of question in December or is this based off another statistic?

This can range from a certain topic in LR to variations of the IN/OUT games.

Thanks!

Hi All! I will be taking the writing portion this week, is there any recs on how to tackle this part of the exam?

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Hey guys,

Hope there's been good news going around. I got into one of my top choices which is University of San Diego and they offered me a 36k scholarship for the first year, with the option of it being renewable if I keep my GPA above a 2.8. That seems pretty easy but I hear law school is on a different grade scale than undergrad. I'm a first- generation college student so I'm really trying to maximize my funding. Wondering if anyone has any tips or advice/forums/blogs anything on how to get the max financial aid.

Also, has anyone attempted to be flown out to schools on their dime? I'm trying to do that but am feeling uncomfortable approaching it.

Thanks,

Stephanie

Unfortunately, I find myself frequently narrowing down RC answers to two choices, then picking the wrong one*. This is especially the case with MAIN POINT questions (although I have no problem identifying conclusions in LR stimuli).

While I know the common types of incorrect ACs (out of scope, too narrow, unsupported, etc.), that knowledge doesn't seem to be helping me, especially in a time crunch.

I've also come across seemingly conflicting information in my study materials* concerning main point questions: some say it has to encompass all the main points of the paragraphs (or else it's too narrow), while others say it should just focus on the main conclusion and any subsidiary conclusions shouldn't be mentioned (or else it's too broad). Which is correct?

It's hard to find the right answer when I'm unsure exactly what it needs to include (or exclude).

ANY help is greatly appreciated, especially that which I can apply within the next couple days (if possible).

Thank you!!!

Background:

**(I've just been studying on my own with the help of some misc. prep books and free online materials [ya girl is broke], but need some additional help.)

Hi I'm looking for a study buddy maybe someone that goes to Florida Atlantic University. I'm good at games and reading comprehension just need help with lr. If your struggling with games or the reading comp I can help you and vice versa. If interested just inbox me thanks.