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Hi everyone! Happy Friday. On my last few practice tests I have gotten between -1 to -3 on my first LR section and then, if LR shows up a second time, my score plummets to -7/-8 on the second LR. How is this possible? Does anyone have any tips to avoid a big point drop-off between the first and second LR if it were to show up twice on test day? If it makes a difference, these tests were in the 60's. Thanks :)

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Hello! While taking PT's I started creating a question stem chart. I would always get so nervous to get a question incorrect, due to being unsure what "type of question" it was referring to... I am an overthinker lol. I don't know about anyone else, but drilling questions is cool and all buttttttttttt I got soooo use to KNOWING what question I was doing when drilling the same type of question over and over. Hope this helps! I don't know if it shows every question type... I've been taking the most recent PT's so I've been building it as I go

What's your least favorite question type? What approach do you take? What's your favorite?

Mine is main conclusion (3(/p)

However, my least favorite is PSA Vs. SA... Anyone care to explain these two to me :) What approach do you use to answer the question?

If I made an error, please tell me.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/105zPPw0Wpllf9bc3T9VyNAxNjiQKHDV-urFsMkTy_CI/edit

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I'm disagreeing with how JY did this because we can't use common sense in MBT nor make up assumptions because we think it makes sense to us. MSS is fine because it's always a 95% certainty and 5% wiggle room for some common sense.

That is invalid because what is a valid argument and what is a sound argument are two different things. In MBT we are focusing if it is valid not if it is sound but JY isn't doing that

His argument goes in the lawgic

Standard committee ---> 6 PM

General assembly ----> 7 pm

6 isn't 7

so 6 ----> /7

Which he gets

SQ ----> 6 ---> /7 ----> /General assembly

The problem is that is not a valid argument. We can't negate assumptions since we are removing alot of presumptions.

I KNOW that 6 isn't 7, but thats not the controversy. The controversy is aligning an assumption against another assumption through negation, which that's not a valid argument.

For all we know in sound arguments, 6 is 7, or 6 does not necessarily contradict 7 (or vice versa)

Why not? Because what if it lasts 5 minutes the assembly. What if the coordinators are so stupid that they do it at the same time. Not common sense but still valid.

Parallel flaw example:

Juan likes tacos

Jake likes cars

Tacos aren’t cars

Therefore Juan —> /Jake

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The lawgic

Juan –> tacos

Jake —> Cars

tacos—-> /cars

Therefore Juan —> Jake

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-83-section-1-question-18/

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question"

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When I started compiling my school list in May/June, I felt like I was very competitive candidate at some great schools. Especially Villanova, in 2020 their LSAT median was a 158 and GPA was 3.51. After covid, those numbers have gone up significantly. Their median LSAT is now a 162. My question is: Does this past year really make people who were competitive in 2020 less so now?

My GPA is a 3.92, I am a double major with experience working for local government, U.S. Congress, employment discrimination law firm in D.C., a teaching assistant for an entire academic year, a full time internship with a policy think tank in D.C., and some more extracurricular stuff such as studying abroad at the London School of Economics this year and involved in some clubs. However, my LSAT is a 159. I am taking it again in 2 weeks and I am psyching myself out and becoming extremely worried that this might be my last chance to get in anywhere.

Does anyone think I have a good chance at Villanova? Their covid numbers are 3.51-3.83 and 157-164.

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Hi folks, as the title says, I am an incredibly slow reader. In order to not get bogged down by the details, I've tried to focus on reasoning structure and what the main point of each paragraph is. However, I spend so much time reading that I barely get to passage 4 (if I do, its only with 4 minutes left and that is not enough to confidently answer all the questions). I am averaging -10 to -12.

I don't know how untimed drills are supposed to help me, but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it

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Hello all, my GPA calculated by LSAC is significantly lower than the GPA on my transcript. Which should I include on my law school resume? Additionally, would you recommend writing an addendum? The lower LSAC GPA is because my undergrad university doesn't include pass/fail credits into GPA, whereas LSAC does. I studied abroad for a semester and failed two courses while abroad. Honestly I don't really have a good reason - I just didn't focus on classes very much while studying abroad. Do any of you think it would be a good idea to write an addendum or will it just draw attention to a negative part of my application?

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Hey Everyone,

As you have probably seen from the title, I am struggling HORRIBLY with the reading comp section, I always get about -15 wrong, even before I used 7Sage I never did this bad. I do well on all other sections, but can't seem to get any improvements on this on in particular.

Has there been any tips or tricks that have helped you overcome RC? I am taking the October LSAT next week and am worried that this section will ruin my score. I am losing hope for this section and filled with anxiety that I won't improve.

Any suggestions will be amazing, thank you :)

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OK, HEAR ME OUT. Something that helped me go from -7/9 to -4 on RC is, and some might be against this but we get desperate sometimes, actually skipping a passage all together, specifically the comparative passage. NOW BEFORE YOU HATE ME FOR THIS, JUST SEE WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE.

I always struggled with timing on RC, and when I read faster, my accuracy went down. So what my tutor taught me is as you go through the section, read the passages slowly, take your time really understanding what the passage is saying, and don't move on to the questions until you have a good understanding. Then, do the questions as normal. When you get to the comparative passage, pick a letter and answer that letter for all the questions. Don't even read the passage or questions, just fill in the letter and move on. Go back to in-depth reading and answering for the rest of the passages.

What you might find is because you skipped a passage, you'll have about 3-6 minutes left over to go back and review the skipped comparative passage (this will fluctuate as you get more confident with RC). When you go back to the comparative, don't read the passage, but skim over the questions and see which you can answer without actually reading the whole passage. These will be questions like ones that only deal with passage A/B, ones that reference a specific area of passage A/B, or structure questions that you might be able to point out. Look at the answer you selected while skipping and see if the answer makes sense. If it doesn't, change it to one that does make more sense or simply a different one.

Normally, with selecting the same letter for all of a passage's questions, at least one is going to be right. After that, your review with your extra time should help you get one or two more right. Now, the key to this strategy is that you must work on getting all of the questions right on the other passages that you took your time on. This might sound scary, but you might surprise yourself on how much you can understand and answer when you give yourself the time. If you get all the other passage problems correct, and you get at least one right with your skipping due to all of them being the same letter, you will automatically go down to -6/7 depending on how many questions the comparative passage has. Add the questions that you might get right from your second quick review of the comparative and you can bring that down to -4/5.

I HATED RC and I never thought I could conquer it, but this strategy has allowed me to be so comfortable with it because I can slow read and really understand the passages which makes the questions a lot easier, while still using analytical skills, that are easier to master than speed reading, to squeeze out those extra points. If anyone has any questions, please reach out to me. I'd love to help a fellow RC strugglers :)

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Hello,

I received a speeding ticket a bit ago, and I ended up contesting it.

I took a driver's safety course and as a result, the moving violation was amended to a non-moving violation.

Do I disclose this whole sequence of events in my character and fitness document? Or just the resulting non-moving infraction?

Thanks in advance!

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In writing my Why x essays, is it okay to spell out the school a few times but also use their initials in some sentences? Or better to be consistent? For example Boston University vs. BU. It feels repetitive and like a waste of space to keep typing out Boston University, but don't want it to be informal.

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I was PT'ing in the high 50's and as soon as I got to the 80's I dropped to 153 consistently from PT 80-83. When I BR i'm in the high 150's. Is this indicative of how I'll do on the actual test? I'm testing this month and I feel like I'm doomed. I can't tell if I'm burning out, but i'm getting frustrated at seeing these scores and makes me feel like my hard work is back tracking. I planned to study until tuesday or wednesday my test is next saturday but now I'm not sure. Any advice?

I goal is honestly to be above 155 but close to 160/ 160 itself.

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So I don't have any volunteer work to put on my resume and am worried about it hurting my application/chances. I did 2 semester-long internships while in school (family services and sheriff's office), 2 babysitting positions during 2 other semesters, 2 law firm internships during different summers, a part-time job every summer, and I studied abroad one semester.

So, it's not like I was sitting around not doing anything, but I feel like it may look bad in terms of character because although I was busy, I could have made time to volunteer on the weekends etc. I feel like starting a volunteer position now would just look like I'm just doing it for my applications (although there are several causes I genuinely would like to volunteer for). Any insight on what I should do or if I should just hope it doesn't hurt me too much?

I did participate in two clubs during school, an animal welfare club, and Italian-American society (I'm Italian), but I did not have any leadership roles, just went to the weekly meetings and participated in the events, so not sure if I should even include these. The Italian-American society was more about appreciating Italian culture through Italian food and traditions. So not really for an important cause or anything.

Also, should I include my 2 babysitting positions on my resume? One was only 5 hours a week and the other was 10. If so, how and where would I list them?

Any insight at all would help! Thank you!

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Taking Oct LSAT. My internet connection is just fine 99.9% of the time however it just went out and now I'm obviously stressed since it's too late to ask for accommodations. So my question is...what happens if the internet drops during the test? is it over?

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Hi everyone,

I hope studying is going well! I was wondering if anyone knew what the "typical" range of variance from most recent average PT's compared to the actual test is? The PT average on my four most recent tests is a 165. I haven't taken the LSAT before (taking November exam), so I'm just looking for a little input on other people's experiences. Thanks so much!

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    I took PT 91 on LawHub and my score dropped 4 points from what I have been scoring on the past 10 tests. Specifically my score in reading comp suffered greatly. Does anyone know why this might be the case? This scares me since I am taking the October test on the 14th.

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    I've been completing a few applications and have noticed in the standardized test scores section some schools ask

  • Did you take ACT/SAT?
  • What was your ACT/SAT score?
  • The second question appears as optional. Do you all think it is necessary to add these scores? Is it bad if it is left blank without the score?

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    Hello -

    When in undergrad, I figured I wanted a demanding job that looked good on my resume before law school. So I pursued my current job that I've been at for about a year now and it's more stressful than I anticipated. Especially for the past 5 months, I've been quite anxious and stressed about work. I know my main goal though, is to study for the LSAT and always tell myself to stop worrying about work and just focus on the LSAT. However, it's been hard lately for me to not think and stress about work. I've gotten some advice to set boundaries at work and to even not do as well of a job at work and focus on the LSAT. But I just hate the fact of doing a crappy job at work. I study before work and then if I have time after work I'll try to get some reviewing in.

    I know other people have had even more stressful or demanding situations with kids, work, or something else. But I just wanted to ask if anyone has any advice for coping with work stress while studying for the LSAT? I'm fearful that the work stress will affect my LSAT studying.

    Thanks!

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    The debate comes down to B and C.

    For B, I eliminated basing on the "average population." remember, the question stem never actually mentions what is true about the average population. We only know that if 100 ppl never smoked crack, only 5 would get falsely tested positive. but in 100 crackhead, 99 would get tested positive. Do we know the average number of crackhead among society? No. That would be something like in American society, there are on average 8 crackheads among 100 people. We don't have this information. So we cannot say that the flaw is applying the stats of average member to every member of the society, since there is no mentioning of what is the average.

    C catches the flaw. My first reaction was that wait a minute, if the vast majority who got positive are confirmed crackheads, what if everyone doesn't smoke crack in this perfect society? Then according to the stem, 5 in every 100 ppl who never smoked crack will get tested positive, then you have the vast majority who got tested positives are not crackheads: they all got falsely tested positive and never smoked before. Well let's increase that to let's say there are an average of 7 crackheads among 100 people. Well still, the amount of crackheads are still not the vast majority of those tested positive. From this reasoning, we then know that we need to know how much people are actually crackhead in among the general population, then we can know whether the VAST MAJORITY of the people who test positive are crackheads. Let's say we are in NYC, and we have about 60 out of 100 on average are crackheads (maybe or maybe not exaggerated). Then the argument might actually make sense according to the 100 tested 99 positive stat. Without the average proportion of crackheads, we cant draw the conclusion about how many will get accurately tested positive in a society.

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    After receiving my august score which was must lower than anticipated I've had a hard time getting my groove back and am doing much worse on LR than before. what do I do I take the October test next weekend?

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