How are you feeling? How are you doing? How is your heart? How is your mind? How is your body? How is your soul? How is your spirit?

I know that studying and practicing for the LSAT can be stressful and time consuming. One of the things that I have grown to cherish and value is self care and checking in with myself multiple times a day. I have been stopping, pausing and slowish down in between study times to just be still.

Wanted to encourage you all to take some today to reflect, process, and respond to the questions above however you like. Whether through journaling, singing, rapping, painting, silence etc. Care for yourself, your body, your mind, your heart, soul and spirit. Please do not let this time of studying consume you to the point of neglecting your self and soul care.

Would to hear how you are caring for your being today. Praying for us to successfully get through this process (smiley face).

Take care!

Grace A.

From 180 scorers:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/lsat.html

From top scorers:

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/p/lsat-law-school-lawyer-diaries-fun.html

Feel free to add to the list!

I'm currently looking for a study buddy! Let me know if you are interested! I'm taking the October Lsat!

With the August test coming up, anyone want to share what they eat to fuel their body and nourish their minds? :)

This also coming from someone a little older who can't handle junk food like I was able to when I was in college haha

For respectively the RC sections and the LR sections. For me they take up a lot of time but do help. I was wondering if people actually strictly follow these "tips" given by J.Y during real, timed full tests. Do you get faster at doing them after practicing?

Hello I am looking for a tutor for LR and RC for the most part. I am really slow at those two sections due to slow reading and have a fear of writing practice tests. #help

Just kills me on the inside when I can rock the tough ones and I miss the super easy ones according to 7Sage :)

Dear all,

How are we doing? I was just wondering what kind of career options is desirable for those who need to pay back law school tuition loan post-graduation. I am planning to go to T-14 law schools, preferably T-3. If I do not get into T-3, I intend to go to a T-14 law school that offers the most generous scholarship. Obviously, I will need to do well on the LSAT. However, I am just curious of whether how you all are planning on paying back the loan. My anticipation is that if we attend one of T-3 law schools, which do not offer any scholarship, we are allotted 200,000+ USD as a loan. Is it safe to say that we try to get a big law job? Or, do we just go for a job that suits the best of one another's interest (which is teaching for me)? My parents only funded for my education up until college years, and I have 50,000 USD as a debt to pay back to my parents for my master’s degree tuition. In other words, I would need to repay about 250,000 USD as a loan for my acquisition of graduate education (JD, MA). I am unsure of which career route I should research into to make my education business fruitful while efficient. Could you please share your insight with this?

Best,

Ken

I do very well on LR questions but always trip up in one of the following situations:

Hi, I have a question:

Premise: A -m-> B --> C

Invalid Conclusion: A --> C

Is A --> C necessarily false? Or is it just not necessarily true? Or do we simply not know?

Hey guys, I just took PT62, which is about my 7th PT I have taken so far, and I scored a 159 (-4 LG, -9 RC, -11 LR) after my diagnostic two months ago of 148. I know that I tanked the LR pretty bad, but just curious as to what everyone's thoughts are on the difficulty level of this test?

160 is where I want to be for the August LSAT next week, so should I be happy about this, or is it considered an easier PT?

Cheers guys!! :)

I am taking the August LSAT and was hoping to get some tips for last minute improvement on LGs, my worst section by far. I know this is something that should have been shored months ago but I can only look forward. Yesterday I took PT 83 and did very well besides LG, where I got ¡-15! Suffice to say, I had a bit a major freakout yesterday but now I am ready to get to work.

My current range on PT's is 161 to 166, I really hoped to be in the high 160's - low 170's but my biggest obstacle are the games. My avg's are (LR -4, RC -5.5, LG -8.2). Unfortunately my scores are a bit skewed because the LR no longer counts as 2/4 of the LSAT grade.

My current plan is to take one more PT at some point this week but for the rest of the week just drill logic games. I know it is the easiest section to improve, and I hope to get it close to -2 by the October test, but for now what would your suggestions be for quick improvement. Should I take the same tests over and over again until I get the assumptions down perfectly? Or take a wide range of LG sets so that while question types are similar, the actual details are different and I need to improvise my assumptions? Are there any specific LG types that might be the easiest to perfect and maybe I should focus on those?

Any, and I mean any, suggestions are appreciated as I try to bump my score up.

Started studying in late May with a 150 diagnostic and have improved to scoring in the low 160s, but have regressed to the mid 150s in the couple of 80s PTs I've taken. Before, I was going -3-5 in LR, and now I'm going -11... I just feel so discouraged and like none of the hard work I've put in has helped now. Anyone else experience something similar and overcome it?

Of course this isn't a one size fits all thing. We all learn differently and different routines benefit each individual, but if anyone needed some direction, here are some tried and true practices for your last week before test day. Take and use what suits you. You guys are fucking warriors and you got this.

Take 1-2 more PTs the weekend prior to test week... so like this weekend. I normally advocate for 1 PT/week, in order to give you time to extract the maximum value from the material through deep review, but here we are looking for a last minute push in volume of exposure to identify any residual weaknesses, and a final polish on our stamina. Take them at your scheduled test time with the exact setup/conditions you will have on test day.

Review everything that gave you trouble - not just wrong answers. More than on the content, focus specifically on what caused you to get this question wrong, and what specifically you can do this week to prevent you from making the same mistakes. Be specific. Saying something like "oh I got a lot of flaw questions wrong so I'll just work on those" is only a little better than saying "my score is too low so I'll just make it higher," why are they giving you trouble? What specific actions will help you address it?

Focus on LG. In my opinion, this section has the best potential for a last minute breakthrough. This is especially important if you are not consistently going -0 on games.

If you haven't yet, get on a schedule that centers around your test time. Make sure you will be rested even if you fail to get a good night's sleep the night before the test. Account for natural cognitive fatigue - if you have an afternoon time, maybe plan a nap or some downtime into your late mornings this week.

Pay attention to what you consume. Nutrition matters. You want a good balance of complex carbs, protein, and omega-3 fatty acids. My pre-test fave was salmon. Hydrate throughout the week so that you don't have to worry about it the morning of the test. The last thing you want is to chug a bunch of water and then have to go to the bathroom mid-section.

Work out. Physical activity improves learning. If you aren't a physically active person, maybe go for a walk or something each morning.

Minimize stress. Focus on relaxation. Don't take on any new stressful projects or get into fights with your family/partner. Stress is a performance killer in so many ways.

No drastic changes. If you're not a coffee drinker, now is not the time to start. If you are a smoker, now is not the time to quit. Whatever homeostasis is for you, that is your foundation for good performance in the next week.

Check your setup. Get on the ProctorU chat, and have them run you through an equipment check using your exact test day setup. One less thing to worry about. Also collect all the items you will need... ID, pencils, paper, earplugs, etc. Prepare your room, and make any necessary arrangements with friends/family (be out of the house, off the internet, watch the dog, stfu, etc.) ahead of time. You want to avoid any last minute stress and ease your overall cognitive load as much as possible.

Get your mind right. Meditate and practice positive affirmations. I am the least new-agey person you'll meet but whatever... this works. Don't stress about the right way, just do it. A 10 minute guided meditation (I liked Khan Academy's videos) every day did wonders for me. Remind yourself that you put in some good hard work for this, and you are well equipped to succeed on this test. You are confident and in control. No matter what you are going to beat this test so it might as well submit to you now. Visualize a successful performance on test day. You will be prepared, and zen AF, and ready to just destroy this test. Efficiency is the balance of speed and accuracy, and you will achieve this through economy of effort... slow and methodical when needed and explosive violence of action where allowed. If your first section is LR, you will be critical, smooth, read for understanding, and rely on your strategies. If it is RC you will read as fast as you can understand and translate as you go, summarizing each paragraph and maintaining a critical mindset as you attack the questions. In games you will remember your form and remember to push rules together. You will articulate exactly what criteria the stem gives you for your answer choice. You will skip aggressively and eliminate ACs aggressively because we don't have time for that nonsense. If you get stressed you will put your pencil down, close your eyes and take a few deep breaths. During breaks you will visualize my attack on the remaining sections and relax. Or something like that. Don't wait until the morning of... start now.

For the love of god take a break. If you do any one thing in the run up to the test, make sure you don't try to cram. You will burn out and waste all the months of hard prep you put in. Take at least a couple days off. For some people a few days off followed by a light day of prep before the test works. For others a break right up to test day with a good warmup the morning of is better. You know yourself best.

Omg I can't believe after 5 months of studying I'm taking the LSAT in a couple days. Newer LR questions are making me very nervous and I don't know what else I can do in the following days to improve my score just a bit.

Any one else feeling this way?

Personally, I am going to try and stick it through with the approach that 7sage has (preptests at the end). I used to try and take a preptest every week, but I felt it was useless if I had not learned and drilled ALL of the material needed. I always seemingly answered questions I had not studied and it just seemed counterintuitive.

I want which one do you think helps more and from personal experience, has helped scores increase.

I am looking for a study buddy to study for the November test if you are interested please let me know. Only serious people need to reply. Thank You.

176/180BR on my last 4. 174 average across last 10.

Free now and tomorrow afternoon. We can go over anything, but I try to focus on overall attack and review strategies, diagnosing current issues, and test psychology. I find that the finer details typically work themselves out if you take the right approach.

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Slots remaining as per above. For you guys or anyone else reading this, I am ok with groups if you arrange amongst yourselves with the person slotted in that time.

Review template link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-lxq2vj-nRbDbu4-jGhrl-e9otJzFiXd/view?usp=sharing

For LR and RC (especially with LR) when I go back and forth between two answer choices I always end up picking the wrong one. In my BR I can come up with all the reasons for picking the wrong one and not the other (right) answer choice. Can someone please share what they do when they are going back and forth between the right answer choice and the second best answer choice? I have tried going back to the stimulus, doing grammar analysis, locating referential phrases, identifying the gap between the premise and the conclusion, analyzing why I didn't pick the right answer choice. But I still end up picking the wrong one timed (and also sometimes during BR). Any suggestion would be really helpful!!

Hey all. Getting ready to head off to Cornell on Monday, and while I expect to be checking back in from time to time, I'm sure I'll be much less present from here on out. I don't have a "here's all the stuff I learned" post for you, as that's just not me, but to leave you all with one thing: this test is absolutely conquerable... yes, even for you. Just don't give up.

Final office hours... open discussion and August test run-up - 8/8/21 @12pm EST - TBD. Apologies in advance if I'm a bit haggard... I'll be waking up pretty early to be able to do this and hopefully jump start my transition from Hawaii time to EST.

Google meeting link: https://meet.google.com/njn-rgvd-ouo - timed out... use link below.

2nd link: https://meet.google.com/hyd-swsh-zek

Edit: Thanks everyone!

Fiction--m-- LA

Fiction --s--Requested from writers

Nonfiction given SA/Published----> RF or Requested

I don't understand how to determine why A is incorrect...if a manuscript is unrequested, does that mean it is either a fiction book that was from a literary agent or a nonfiction book from a renown figure?

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Hi everyone!

I have been studying for the LSAT for about three months now, and I just cannot seem to bring my logical reasoning score up. On my practice tests, I typically get about 7-10 questions wrong (the best I have scored is -4). I have tried so many different resources, including the Loophole and the LSAT trainer. I have been practicing a lot. I can identify the question types, and I feel pretty confident about my skills until I take a prep test or drill. This just seems to be an ongoing cycle and I was just wondering if anyone had any tips on how I can overcome this? Perhaps there are some people out there who have been in the same boat and could share some advice based on their experiences. Any insight and advice would be MUCH appreciated. Thank you :)

Hey guys,

The upcoming August LSAT is my first LSAT ever and while I'm almost mentally broke from the stress, I've been thinking about how the test will be administered online. So my understanding is that we sit in our own rooms (unless you have accommodation) and a proctor will identify your ID (which I assume we just hold up to the webcam?) then we have to show them a sweep of the room and table which is where I'm a little lost.

I'll be using a standard laptop camera which is incorporated on top of the screen, so do I just carry the laptop in awkward angles and do a little twirl? I feel like this is a little weird and time-consuming if everyone has to do it at the same time.

Also by proctor, does that mean everyone is assigned a human to check ID, table, room etc., or is this an automated message that just plays before the exam?

I'm so sorry if these are newbie questions that are already answered somewhere else online -- I couldn't find them on the LSAC website.

Any insight would help so much! Thank you in advance!

Hello fellow 7sagers, first time test taker here. I am taking the August 2021 LSAT and was wondering what protocols previous and fellow first-time test takers are following during the last >week of prep before the test regarding the taking of full, timed PTs. I believe this thread might be helpful to others in my position as well, considering this August test is a little unprecedented with the introduction of the new-ish format.

For some context, I have 2 "fresh" PTs left, (89 and M20), and was planning on taking 89 sometime within the next few days, and then spending the remaining time chopping up M20 for timed sections/practice and light drilling before my big day on Saturday.

Additionally, I started my prep this summer with a 150 diagnostic, and am currently averaging around 167 (deriving this average from my most recent PT's which have been in the 80's and 70's). I scored a 169 on PT 71 last Wednesday, but then experienced significant (although not debilitating) burnout, so I took the next two days off. With this in mind, I'm wondering if I should even bother PT'ing again before Saturday, or just drill/do timed sections for the remaining week. Throughout this entire prep I have never spent a full week without doing at least one PT. I would like to sit down and do another full run-through on LawHub with a fresh 89 under test conditions, but at the same time I would like to avoid more burnout (which may or may not even happen).

Thanks for any advice.

Hello,

so I've been studying for the lsat since January and am currently scoring 163 on average. Since I'm working full time and have been out of college for +5 years, progress has been slow.

At this point, I'm wondering if there is any realistic chance for me to improve my score to 170 by October. In each section, I'm getting :

LG -3~5 / LG -4~5 / RC -6~7