Consistently getting -7/8 on LR sections. It feels stagnant at this point but I do want to improve! What should I do, any tips?

#help

can anyone explain why B is wrong?

Hello to anyone working at 7sage. Is there anything in the pipeline that will add an experimental section to the PTs?

Hello everyone! I have been looking for info sessions (looking to get a better feel of schools, see where I might want to ED, get content and questions answered for Why X essays), but I have so far not found any. If anyone has any leads on info sessions (online or in person), I would be eternally grateful if you could comment them below.

Even though I routinely go -0 on LG, I find games far more mentally demanding online as opposed to on paper. The constant micro-interruptions caused by the need to glance back and forth from screen to page (and then having to spend time locating/processing the text) slows me down and interrupts my train of thought. I often have to reread things I just read seconds before as a result. To put it another way, my cognitive load feels much higher when doing LG online. On the paper test you can draw a diagram literally one inch from the question and so any eye movement/tracking is minimal.

Does anyone else experience this? I don't know if I am particularly susceptible to this kind of thing, but I am looking for suggestions for how to minimize these effects since I know the online test isn't going away. Thoughts?

First and foremost, congratulations to everyone who took the test in June and survived it lol. I have a question about the LG on there, do you guys recall what game types were on there? Thanks in advance.

[I am posting on behalf of 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

I've studied the past 2.5 months for an average of a bout 3-4 hours a day. I've finished David M. Killoran's Logic Games Bible, Mike Kim's LSAT trainer, and the Logical reasoning Loophole by Ellen Cassidy. I've gotten to a point where I feel like I can finish LG timed at -1 to -2, but I'd like to get that down to 0 with some practice. Obviously, I'd also like to improve my LR and RC as much as humanly possible. I haven't taken any fully timed LR sections, but I've been -2 to -4 untimed so far. All of this is a long winded way of asking, where do I start? I only have a month and a half until test day, so I can't imagine going over the basics again would be as beneficial as working on timing or the more difficult areas of each section. Advice would be appreciated.

I got my June LSAT Flex score back and it was 171. I'm not sure whether I should retake in October. This was my second take. I was pting in about 170, but in blind review I could get to about 175 (the best one was 177). I'm in a top10 liberal arts college with a gpa of 3.87. My softs are average or perhaps below average— I'm an international student and have been outside of the US for more than a year due to COVID 19, so I was only able to get an internship in my homeland which I know would lack credibility to most US law schools. Aiming at t8 law schools, and the best choice would by NYU or Columbia.

I'm aware that a better score is always preferable. The reasons holding me back from retaking are 1) I'm now taking a gap semester, but I will be back in school next semester. I'm not sure if I have time to prepare for another LSAT in October. 2) The October LSAT-Flex will have four sections, but I've never practiced a four-section-LSAT before. I don't know if that makes the test harder. 3) If I'm going to retake I probably won't be doing any internship this summer but instead would focus on LSAT and other application materials. Not sure if it's worth sacrificing my summer internship.

Do you guys have any thoughts on this? What are my chances with my current score? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hi all - I'm taking the LSAT in August and it's my first time doing so. As such, I have a few logistics questions for those who know/have taken the FLEX recently.

Can you take the exam on a desktop? LSAC website says yes, but the Writing Sample Video (and presumably the actual exam) suggest that we're supposed to show our work environment, including floor, etc. Has anyone encountered this issue using a desktop?

Can you use scratch paper on RC/LR? Obviously we use them for LG, but has anyone been called out by a proctor for writing out, say, lawgic for a complicated LR question?

Any other tips for first-timers re: technology, proctoring, logistics? Hoping to keep stressors like these to a minimum on actual test day.

Thank you!!

Hello,

I am just about to begin studying for the LSAT. I have seen recommendations that I should take a practice LSAT before I begin studying as a baseline for what to work on. Should I use one of the practice tests on 7Sage's syllabus for this, or should I take the practice test from elsewhere, and if so where?

Thanks.

I am starting to prepare for the August test after taken the June test. RC is my worst section and I wasn't really following a specific strategy before. Should I be focusing mainly on just structure, main point, and tone as im reading?

Hey guys!

After scoring a 159 on the February LSAT, I scored a 171 in June.

I studied for a year while working full time, and there were many months when I thought I would never reach my goal.

But I remained persistent, practiced, drilled, used multiple resources (including 7Sage!), and was finally able to reach my goal.

To anyone struggling with the LSAT: don't give up. Just keep pushing.

Hi everyone! I have a slight dilemma, and I would love your advice/opinions. I can either take the LSAT in October and on the basis I do well, apply to law schools this November. The other option is for me to take the LSAT at some point in 2022 and then apply to law schools next fall. The highest I've scored on a practice test is 154, but I would like to score in the upper 160s/170s. Aiming for at least a 170. The thing is, I will be entering my senior year of college and there will be plenty of events and social activities that will likely distract me from studying, so I'm worried about taking the LSAT in October. Please let me know what you think! Thank you.

P.S. I would like to get into a T20 or T14 school. So, is it worth it to take a gap year after graduating and apply next year or take it this year and deal with the results that I get?

Hey guys I wanted to make this post for anyone who has doubts about their ability to reach a better score on the LSAT. This course has been incredibly helpful for me so if you’re reading this, just know it can be helpful for you too. But as with all things, you get what you put into it.

I last took the LSAT in the summer of 2018, then again in January 2019. Both times scoring a 160. At the time, I was finishing my senior year at the U of I, hopeful that I would be able to score well enough on the LSAT to offset a passable GPA. I figured that’d I’d hit my ceiling and took a break from thinking about law school. After scoring 160 twice, the LSAT became some scary obstacle that I couldn’t quite overcome, keeping me out of my dream school.

Anyways long-story short, I picked it back up again this January while being employed full-time as an environmental engineer. I worked 10 hour days, but still made time to study during my breaks (secretly) and every day after work. My first diagnostic test score was a 158, and I almost dropped the course altogether.

Instead, I stuck with it. I learned each concept in order and didn’t jump around or skip concepts that I assumed I understood. I stayed honest with practice tests, each time taking it all the way through without breaks and not giving myself extra time to fill in questions at the end. I focused on blind review, starting with figuring out the right answer myself before watching JY’s analysis and peering into the comments to learn from interpretations posted by fellow 7sagers. I found different strategies to attack each section and honed them to answer the questions under time constraint.

By the end of the course, and before the June LSAT, I was averaging a 166 cumulatively, with high scores around 173 (I got these scores on tests where I did everything right). When it came test day I scored a 168 and ran out of time on the last section of logic games. (PS - Make sure you draw your rules into your game board before jumping into the questions!!)

Anyways, I hope this helps to put aside any of your doubts about not being able to reach a better score, because you can. Best of luck to you all! If you have any questions or comments feel free to message me!

So I've been studying since Jan and took the June Lsat, got a 169. Honestly, I'm happy applying with my score (I just want a T20 and have a 4.0 gpa) but am taking the August one just to see if I can walk away with a better score cause the competitiveness of the last cycle is freaking me out lol. I have been pting in the low 170s with some higher outlier scores. My BR scores usually correspond closely, but slightly higher, with my pt scores (so timing isn't the issue, Ig I'm just stupid lol) I'm good with the fundamentals, there isn't an area where I'm specifically weak at, I just always miss a few of the hard ones (usually LG -0 and LR and RC are around -3 give and take) I only have 3 clean prep tests left. Sometimes I feel with the new tests the difference between a correct and incorrect LR question is so nuanced, or an RC passage just comes down to how well it clicks with me.. but then I see people consistently PTing in the mid 170s and ALWAYS BRing at 180.. So, how should I study from here? Anyone else in the same boat?

Hello,

I have reached out to some 7Sage approved tutors but it's been difficult to get a response back. If you are an available tutor please reach out to me.

Thank you!

I have several abbreviations on my personal statement that otherwise would be an entire sentence.

E.g NVCC for Northern Virginia Community College.

I feel like spelling all these out take up too much of precious real estate. Is this acceptable??

Thank you!

I need inspo for my personal statement. All of a sudden I feel like im the most boring person ever and have nothing to write about. Also, I got a 153 on the June test but i was PT'ing 155-161 so I know I can do much better and im going to retake in August. Should I cancel the 153 since I have the option to?

Hey guys,

I just took prep test 70 and did so poorly on logical reasoning I got 12 wrong. I knew for sure I would get some wrong but wasn't expecting that. Do you guys have any recommendations for how to improve?

Hi everyone!

I have been studying almost full-time for a few months now, and I have scored a 161 on the most two recent PT I have taken (PT 56 & 58) with a blind review scores of 172 and 170 respectively. I need at least a score of 166 for my target score (UBC) and I am planning on getting a tutor to help me with RC as I have not been able to improve that section by myself.

But, with the deadline for August coming up tomorrow, I am not sure if I will be able to get a 166 for August and I am considering registering for October test date instead. What are your thoughts? I know JY recommends signing up for the LSAT once your average is above your target score which clearly is not my case. Should I sign up for both? Or just try to get my score as high as possible for October?

Thank you in advance!

I did pretty bad on the June LSAT, any suggestions. I will appreciate it.

The LSAT took me....well, a while. Here's the proof:

March '19: 161

November '20: Cancel (Proctor issues)

January '21: 166

June '21: 170

I wanted to post this to reinforce a point made many times on 7sage: the LSAT is learnable. It's a beast of a test, but you can tackle it. Believe in yourself and your ability to learn - especially after a tough PT or disappointing real score.

So thankful for this community and all of ya'll. I might have to stick around and teach some.

Also - JY you are my idol.

Im currently enrolled in school for this fall as it is my last semester before graduation (december 2021) I'm planning on taking the LSAT in January 2022, would I still be able to get into law school in the fall of 2022?

Given that the August test will be 4 sections (1 being the un-scored variable), how should I simulate it during my practice? 7Sage only gives the option of doing 4 sections (all scored) or a 3 section flex. I'd really like to have my practice as close to the real thing as possible.

Some of you might be disappointed with your score today. If you haven't yet, take a moment to write down everything you can recall from the test... how you felt, the difficulties you encountered, etc. This will be valuable going forward.

Now check this out: the score you want is absolutely achievable. Yes, for you specifically. Just don't give up.

I felt the same way you do right now... several times. I have 7 scores, 5 are in the 16low and below range, and just one in my target score range. The test is unforgiving, and brutally consistent at exposing your weaknesses. You just haven't figured out what works yet. What you can't see that people who have finished can (especially those of us who teach this test and remain part of this community) is that this is just one more piece of the puzzle for you. This needed to happen for you to get where you're going. Every score release I have clients who are crushed by an underperformance. Those are the same people who if they stick with it, absolutely destroy the test a few months later... I've been talking to them all morning today. People who went from almost giving up on school altogether to having a legit shot at HYS this coming cycle... people who are now withdrawing from their regional acceptances to take a swing at the T14. This happens reliably, every. single. test. The major factor that allows people to ultimately succeed? Not giving up. The rest will follow.

You want to go to law school for a reason... that goal determines the type of school you want, which determines the score range you need. Unless we compromise our goals, you just need to decide that you will do what needs to be done. Maybe it'll take longer than expected, but I'd say your dreams are worth it.

Congrats to everyone getting their scores today. Regardless of the outcome, you are now one step further along in your journey.