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Hi, I’ve been studying for the LSAT for 1.5 months now. I finished all three PowerScore Bibles and just started going through Fox’s LR Encyclopedia that drills LR in PTs 40-60 (haven’t even gone through half of this book yet, his explanations are bad). I’ve also been trying to foolproof LG, but I’ve only done about 10 so far and have noticed some improvement; I believe more improvement will come with time as I go through more foolproofing.

I have PTs 19-72. My diagnostic score was 143 on PT 19. After 1.5 months of doing the above, my score on PT 63 was 148 with a BR score of 158.

I initially wanted to take the LSAT in September and October to apply for this upcoming cycle, but I feel that postponing it would benefit me more. I’m willing to take a gap year and work full time as I will be graduating from undergrad in December. I’m aiming for a 170+ and will probably take the LSAT sometime in early 2020.

My question is, which 7Sage package should I get?

I plan to study 4-5 hours per day almost every day of the week and more on weekends as I’m working full time now.

What PTs would be left over/fresh to use after completing the course?

Also, how long would it take to go through the course curriculum? I plan to spend the time after the course for PTs.

One concern I have is that if I get a certain package, what if the video explanations or drills are useless to me because I’ve already been exposed to those materials from my previous study in PowerScore and Fox’s Encyclopedia (PTs 40-60, but again I have barely gone through this).

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Hi 7sage community.

Question - do I do a full practice test under timed conditions with BR or just practice timed sections individually with BR before Monday? Or forego timed practice until after Monday and hit it hard for the fall date?

A brief background on where I am at:

I sat for March test after beginning studies with Kaplan books in January. Bombed the LG section (went at least -17) but got a 155, which was my PT average going into the test. I did 6 or 7 full (5 section and writing) practice tests leading up to March so I am familiar with the format, the "sprint", resetting my watch to the 12 between sections, bubbling in to not leave points on the table if time is low, and some of those little tricks.

Between March and June I had to catch up at work with projects I had left on the backburner from the beginning of the year (I work around 50 hours a week). I began the 7sage CC in earnest at the beginning of June. I haven't done it all, but I've been through every subsection for at least some of it. I spent the bulk of my time firming up my foundational and advanced logic skills (immensely helpful).

I'm sitting on Monday and haven't done a PT since March. Should I practice the whole thing or just practice each section, timed with BR? I am taking the rest of the week off and will let my brain rest Saturday and Sunday.

Also worried about what a low PT score will do to confidence heading into the test on Monday.......................... and even considering skipping timed practice for now.

I am fully committed to a LOT of PT and BR between Monday and the September or October test. Definitely doing one of those which will be my final attempt.

Lastly, I am accepted for fall 2020 at my top choice (local public school) so I am just trying to raise my score for financial aid purposes. This year's incoming 1L class had a median score of 157.

THANK YOU!

Kat

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Hey,

I started my prep with 7sage ultimate + around May 15th. I was initially planning on taking my first attempt in September but now after finishing CC and 2 weeks of drilling I've taken 2 PTs scoring 157 in one (171 BR) and 156 in the other (164 BR). My goal is to get a 170. I don't know if its normal to start the first few PTs with such a low score and then jump up. Looking for any advice as to how many PTs I should be taking each week (was thinking of doing 2) and any other advice would be appreciated!

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Hi guys, wondering if anyone with really good time management strats can reach out to me. I am consistently PTing in the mid to low 160s but I go over the time limit on at least one or two sections and I need to really cut this down. I am writing July but will most likely have to write October unless the lsat gods themselves bless me on the 15th and I walk out with a 160+ under time constraints.

Any help is amazing!

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Despite having gone through the core curriculum and JY's explanation videos multiple times, where he frequently skips around to local questions with premises before tackling global ones, I still approach logic games questions in order unless I'm really stuck. I've found in the past that LG questions often build on inferences from previous questions, something you might miss if you skip around.

Anyone have a particularly firm opinion on either approach? Would love to hear your thoughts!

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Each school decides what to ask and how to phrase the questions in their Character and Fitness section of the application. Questions and wording may change from cycle to cycle based on state bar requirements or desires of faculty or administrators.

If you answer yes to any questions, be clear and thorough in your explanations. If you have any criminal convictions, a committee of administrators, faculty, and counsel would meet to discuss the application.

If you list offenses, the Admissions Committee could ask itself

  • Is there a pattern of behavior or was this an isolated offense?

  • How many offenses?

  • Was the offensive behavior repetitive?

  • Was there violence?

  • Was there a blatant disregard of the law?

  • Does this person not believe in legal compliance?

  • Was there a change in behavior?

  • How recent were these incidents?

  • What has the applicant learned?

    • The most important thing the Committee is looking for is to see if you take ownership of your actions. In your short, factual explanation, help the Committee get to the point where they invite you to attend the school without having to ask you more questions. Your explanation should answer any potential question the Committee might raise. You want the Committee to reach a conclusion based on your words, not any assumptions they make on their own.

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    Hi, I just recently purchased the 7sage ultimate. I have been studying for about a month now, with somewhere around 25 hours a week. I took my first Practice Test with the June 2007 diagnostic and got -28, which is a 156. Granted, this isnt a cold diagnostic as I finished most of the CC, just not all of the Problem Sets.

    I got -6 on the LG, only doing 2 questions on the last game.

    -17 in total on the two LR sections and -5 on the RC.

    Being brutally honest, is it possible to get to a 170 by the October test date? 25 hours a week was pretty low commitment and I can do somewhere between 5-6 hours a day 7 days a week no problem.

    What is a good study plan? I was planning to just do practice tests and blind review, while clearly focusing on LR and LG whenever Im not doing PT.

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    How do you do blind review with the problem sets when checking your answers? All I see are the correct answers when I go to check my first rounds answers

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    I just did my first PT which included 2 question types I have never encountered before: Substitution Equivalence LG questions and a Comparative RC Passage. It was pretty stunning to first see them since I have done the entire CC and they were never mentioned. I found the hidden SE lesson in the upper PTs and I dug around a little bit and found JYs strat for Comparative RC but now I'm wondering:

    Are there any other new question types from recent PTs that are not part of the CC?

    If so, where can I find resources to tackle them?

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    Hi.

    I needed to improve logical reasoning skills so I took a simple argument and tried if I can come up with imaginary correct answers for different question types on my own. What do you guys think? Do you think I did any of them incorrectly?

    Argument: You can't get a tattoo. Your aunt Barbara got a tattoo, and she is in jail.

    Flaw: Assumes that I will have the same consequence as aunt Barbara if i get a tattoo like her.

    Weaken: Some people who has a tattoo did not end up in jail

    Strengthen: Most people who got a tattoo ended up in jail

    Sufficient Assumption: A new legislation states that "anyone who gets a tattoo ends up in jail."

    Necessary Assumption: There are at least some people besides aunt Barbara who got a tattoo and now in jail.

    Parallel flaw: Last night, I saw a video of a black cat that was taught to use a toilet, our kitty is also black, so she could be taught to use a toilet.

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    hey guys im freaking out because i just looked at my admission ticket for July 15th test and it says my first name but then Toronto as my last name. I read that i will have to submit written request to have it changed and it would take 3-5 business days. Am i screwed for July???? Can it still be processed in time???

    #help

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    Hi all and thanks in advance. Is my method of approach optimal?

    My target goal is 170+ by Nov and I began studying in Feb. I did not do a baseline BR / PT. I finished Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer, I've done about 4-5 timed PT's and BR's.

    I am working through the Lawschooli LR curriculum and will focus on 7sage's LG videos afterwards. My weak points are...everything. In BR I do well on LG but struggle in LR and RC. Is my approach apt if I want to get 170+ in Nov?

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    This is a bit old and doesn't add a whole lot to this discussion that folks here won't already know, but I really like the simplicity of this part and I share this specifically to echo this sentiment:

    If you know you have to be a lawyer, you should probably go to law school. . . If you aren't sure whether you want to be a lawyer or not, do not go to law school. Full stop. End of discussion. That's it.

    My high school band director had a policy to do everything he could to dissuade any student considering majoring in music. I was a hardcore band nerd and knew I was going to major in music. I had already earned quite a large scholarship and was pretty much set. So, he pulled me out of rehearsal one day and we talked and he told me all the reasons I shouldn't major in music. He explained to me that if I could be talked out of it, if he could even plant a seed of doubt in my mind, that music was absolutely not for me. Music is a hard profession and most people that go into it are never able to make a living. I majored in English, and I'm forever grateful to Mr. Goff for that conversation.

    I think Rainer Maria Rilke--the greatest poet most people have never heard of--put it best (as usual) in Letters to a Young Poet.

    This above all--ask yourself in the stillest hour of your night: must I [be a lawyer]? Delve into yourself for a deep answer. And if this should be affirmative, if you may meet this earnest question with a strong and simple "I must," then build your life according to this necessity; your life even into its most indifferent and slightest hour must be a sign of this urge and a testimony to it.

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    I understand that necessary condition has to be 100% true while sufficient is more of a "good enough" explanation for if something else is true. But when I look at examples I am confused on determining which is the sufficient and which is the necessary in "only if", "is" and "any" situations. (I have watched the videos like 3x already and still it makes no sense)

    For instance, Earth is the only home we've ever known. What it says in the examples is Earth is the necessary but only home is the sufficient. I don't understand how this is the case? Does anyone have an easier way of explaining it?

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    Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 70 Reading Comprehension.

    There will be four sessions total.

    All sessions will be from 8pm - 10pm ET / 5pm - 7pm PT. Please see detailed schedule below.

    What happens in these sessions?

    We'll read the passage together, paragraph by paragraph. I'll ask you to make low resolution summaries of each paragraph. We'll use those low res summaries to build higher resolution summaries. Then, we'll answer the questions together.

    How should I prepare?

    Have a clean, unmarked copy of the PT ready in front of you so we can read and answer the questions together. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

    Next Session

    Wednesday July 10

    8pm - 10pm ET

    RC Passage 4 - government protect risk

    Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/270891637

    You can also dial in using your phone.

    United States: +1 (646) 749-3131

    Access Code: 270-891-637

    Joining from a video-conferencing room or system?

    Depending on your device, dial:

    270891637@67.217.95.2 or 67.217.95.2##270891637

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    Future Sessions

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    Obtaining PT 70

    If you have an Ultimate or Ultimate+ account, you will be able to view and print PT 70 under the Syllabus. If you are enrolled in Starter or Premium, you can also purchase PT 70 as an add-on to your existing course here.

    Past Sessions

    Sunday July 7

    8pm - 10pm ET

    RC Passage 1 - organism infection

    Monday July 8

    8pm - 10pm ET

    RC Passage 2 - modern North American dance

    Tuesday July 9

    8pm - 10pm ET

    RC Passage 3 - happiness wealth

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    Hi Everyone. I'm reaching out for advice. I've taken about 6 practice tests and my practice test score has consistently stayed at 148 while my BR is between 161-167. I'm really excited about the BR score since my practice test goal score is the 160's, but I'm trying to figure out why my practice test score has stayed the same. Does anyone have any advice on bridging the gap between the practice and BR score and/or understanding why the practice test score is staying stagnant?

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    Hey guys,

    In the last two months I've been getting really good results on my practice tests. I've been getting anywhere from 169 to 174, but those were PT35-50s.

    On Wdnesday I took PT 84 and got a 166 and then I got a 165 today on PT 87, which was administered last month.

    Are the recent tests really this much harder? I'm trying to calm myself because I was really confident to take the July exam, and now I'm back to square one (I got a 164 last year and resumed studying May of this year).

    I'm extremely disappointed because I had thought the 7Sage CC has really helped me understand the essence of arguments and how to approach the exam in general. I really wanted a higher score so that I can lessen the burden that my wife has to carry as the sole provider while I go to law school. I had sacrificed all of my shifts at my job as an investment to get a higher score, and I feel like all of that has been wasted.

    Any advice? I thought on Wednesday I wasn't in a very good condition but today I was totally fine. Still a lower score. I'm about to lose it.

    Thanks for listening though.

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