This is my second time taking the test, after I completely bombed my first with a 155. In my last 3 PTs I had a 163, a 164, and a 166, respectively. I know I can do better and am unsure as to whether I should postpone to next cycle. To add more to my dilemma, I have a poor undergrad gpa with a 2.8. I am 4 (27 years old, ftw) years out of undergrad with tons of valuable professional experiences and solid references, though I know I still need to get a good lsat score for a chance at a T1 or T2 university, and to get some scholarship money.

I am also in a very serious relationship and we are considering starting a family in the next few years. Should I wait for the next cycle or just apply now? Your input is greatly appreciated

Hey all,

Not sure which section this belongs in - but just wanted to get your thoughts on the following matter:

I know for American schools - students receive better admission entrance scholarships when they have a stronger LSAT mark (ex. 164 vs. 172). However, I was wondering if inputting the study effort + time needed to go from 164 vs. 172 - if it is worth it? I am a Canadian student and planning on to BE studying at Canadian law school. Anybody know if Canadian laws schools offer large entrance admission scholarships for those students with better LSAT marks?

The only reason why I am asking is that studying for the LSAT (the correct way, the correct process that 7sage recommends + more) - takes a long time to perfect. And as you get older means more responsibility and more time you have to put to other things. I made a pros and cons list below, but just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the matter.

Currently this what is on my plate: my Masters Program, 15+ hour work weeks & studying for the LSAT + being married LOL.

Pros:

Cons:

Thanks for the advice in advance.

I just got my score which is lower than the score most of the supra brainy members of this community report as their first cold LSAT score. But hey, for me, I improved on the real LSAT by 5 points. I'm pleased and surprised. All thanks to 7Sage, and the really solid way in which the learning is devised and imparted. I improved the 5 points not having finished the CC, having started on LG a mere two weeks before the January LSAT. My score is still way lower than the median percentile reported accepted scores at the schools I'm interested in, though. Of course, I keep hoping that my pretty unusual background, résumé and life experience 'might' carry water, and because I'm way older than most everyone here, at 56, the idea of waiting another year doesn't sit well with me. But I also realize I won't know the deal with admissions till, who knows? Late spring? Summer? So, most likely I'm going to think about it over the weekend and go ahead and sign up for the June 2019 LSAT and just pretend I know that I'm reapplying. I confess I actually love the thought of properly completing the 7Sage course. I love this community. The braininess and the generosity (both) of its members. And I would swear by the course. I half want others not to know about it, for it to be our secret, but of course, I tell everyone and anyone I meet about it. Thank you, JY, thank you all the 7Sager who with your comments and explanations make this learning journey so rewarding and so fun!

I know there's been posts about this, so I'm so sorry.

I jumped 6 points from November to January (Yay! I got my target score!). I have a 12 point deferential from the June test.

Is it required to write an addendum? Would the schools expect it? A couple explicitly state it, and I have one written. Should I sent it for the schools that didn't?

Thanks for any input!

My January score is 15x,Canceled scores for all my prior attempts. LSAC GPA 3.5x. International student but have a bachelor’s and master’(GPA3.73) from the US.

My husband works in NY so I really hope to get in Fordham this year. But based on my stats I’m afraid I don’t have much chance. Should I just apply for Fordham now and some other target (Cardozo) and safeties (Brooklyn,Touro ) to get a sense of how admission officers view me, and retake in March ?

Or should I just retake and not apply to anywhere?

My hubby suggests me apply to WUSTL to get a sense, too. Is there any point for me to do that? I’m obviously below their bottoms .

A bit about my LSAT situation: I have been studying since June 2017. English is not my first language and I burned a lot of PTs untimed. Prior to January LSAT my PT scores in December were: 164,168,171, (but they’re very old PTs) then my husband had to relocate so I spent a lot of time packing/cleaning/ watching my 2 yr old during holidays. And when I resumed to prep again in January my PT score dropped : 159, then 164 the week before test (these are recent PTs btw), but the week before test my son got very sick so I had to take care of him full time with very limited time studying, and I got sick on the test day. So I definitely think I can do better, but I also burned out all the new PTs and most of the old PTs, too.

Please give me some advice on what to do next! Thank you!

I scored badly and this is my second time taking the exam. I do not know what to do anymore and how to approach it.

So got my January score. I knew I bombed the LG section. I was prepared to think I'd failed miserably then. I got my score just now and I got one point lower than my November...so while bad, at least not as horrific as I was preparing myself for.

How badly will this affect me now that I have already applied?? I was doing this to see if I did better, to try negotiating for more money, if any is even offered....so no that's out the window. Do I do March anyway to see??

Hey 7Sagers-

There are a fair number of discussions about doing untimed section drills or untimed full PTs, but not one with some consolidation of purpose, goals, best practices. I know there is apprehension about wasting PTs, not to mention some old forum posts including lines like, "No untimed PT's. No untimed sections. Not even once."

I've currently stalled in my progression a bit from going from CC to timed PT w/ BR. I'm going to start doing some untimed section drills and/or untimed full PTs, but want to make sure I have everything straight.

My questions remaining are:

Without further ado, here is what I found in the webinars and forums.

If I have misrepresented anything, or you have additional insights, I would love to have them.

What: When 7Sagers refer to untimed section drills, it means taking a full section of a PT without the time pressure, but finding a natural pace. This does not mean taking all of the time in the world like you may with Blind Review. You will likely be over time at the end of the section. The idea is that you can work at being more efficient later, but you need practice to get the score up without the arbitrary time pressure.

When: In the Post Core Curriculum webinar, Sage Josh says these are great for Phase 1 where your blind review is under your target score, but leaves the door open to this being helpful in Phase 2 as well.

Purpose: @"Cant Get Right" Untimed work is really great for learning the fundamentals. Once you've got each section where you need to be, it's time to work on strategy... Before you master these elements [for example: conditional reasoning] of the test, taking timed sections isn't going to be very productive." Discussion

@AllezAllez21 I think untimed work is so critical. You could do the occasional untimed section if you wanted a variety of LR questions to deeply study. Or you could maybe be focusing on a particular process for LR (like really identify the flaw, or the conclusion, or something that is pretty universal to LR questions).

For LR, I would just do deep dives on your weaknesses, untimed. That could be by question type, it could be "lawgic" or maybe argument structure. Discussion

@Ohnoeshalpme: Following a deep understanding of these errors and a correction through untimed drilling, speed and accuracy will come naturally. Discussion

Sample Study Schedule with Untimed Section Drills: s/o @kimpg_66 Discussion

Once I had fool proofed (took over a month), I started drilling and PTing. My schedule was:

Monday: 1 LR and LG section

Tuesday: 1 LR and RC section

Wednesday: 1 full PT/blind review

Thursday: 1 LR and RC section

Friday: 1 LR and LG section

Saturday: 1 full PT/blind review

I used all of PTs 40-52 for these section drills. I started out doing each section untimed, underlining the keywords in LR with a highlighter and writing a line # for where I had pinpointed the answer for RC. I would take 15+ minutes on each RC passage at first, and 45+ on LR. I figured it was better to get the basics and concepts down to a science before I moved on to timed. Eventually, I started timing my sections.

Thanks to those who have unwittingly supplied information to this thread and anyone who can provide additional insights.

#Help

Hello, everyone.

I'm an international student, and I scored a 159, 77 percentile on the LSAT. Can't retake due to lack of time and resources. I really don't know what to do next and anxiety is getting the best of me. The country I am from doesn't issue grad score as GPA, they give out percentages. I scored 74%, and topped in my class. Any suggestion is appreciated. What should I do next for scholarships, and can I even get into a good College with this score?

TIA

I am struggling with whether to attach addendum to several applications in order to explain a break in my education. Several schools ask for that information explicitly and I have provided it, but some do not and simply give the opportunity to add additional addenda at the applicant's discretion. Basically, I graduated high school in 2005 and I withdrew from college 3 times in addition to several breaks from school between 2005 and 2012 due to severe mental health issues. I also failed a couple classes. I discuss overcoming this obstacle in my personal statement but I do not go into details like "I withdrew from X school Spring 2006 to seek inpatient treatment..." to explain specific gaps in my record since I figured that would bog down the story. Long story short, my health took a sharp turn for the better and I returned to school in 2014 and my academic record has been very strong since then with no further breaks or issues. In addition, my CAS GPA is still good and my GPA/LSAT are over median for most schools I am still applying to, so I don't feel I need to "apologize" for poor performance. However, I still wonder if committees will see that weird stuff on my transcripts from years ago and have unanswered questions, which is why I am considering attaching a very brief explanation of the specific times I left school or took a break. On the other hand, since my numbers are good for these schools, I wonder whether it would be a bad idea to attach an addendum drawing attention to issues from the distant past when my GPA/LSAT and recent academic record are competitive for the schools I am considering attaching this to? My personal statement and applications are pretty brief overall and I am not attaching other optional statements. Any advice would be much appreciated. I am happy to provide more details on the situation. Thanks for reading!

Hey All,

I scored a 146 on the November 2019 LSAT with three weeks of preparation. My target score is a 165. I took December off and started studying again 6 weeks ago. I have been studying about 2-3 hours everyday and the highest practice score I have reached is a 152. My question is: Even though I’m registered for the March LSAT should I cancel by registration since my PT’s are not higher than a 152 and take the June LSAT instead? I want to start law school in the fall of 2019 and it seems like the March LSAT is my last chance to gain acceptance in the fall. Can I make significant gains in 45 days or should I simply wait till June? Thank to all!

Guys, I seem to have improved a lot on the LG section, all thanks to JY's video explanations, etc.. Just wanted some feedback on the LR section , which is where I mainly seem to be getting stuck.. Am registered for the March LSAT and am really hoping to be able to improve by then in that section. For some reason doing PTs / powerscore bible / LSAThacks explanations still don't seem to be doing it for me to really crack that section.. Any advice on what is the best resource for improving LR score? Did you guys see a marked improvement after JY's LR tutorials?

The suspense is killing me for tomorrow's release! Anybody else going crazy waiting?!

My account expires early March but may need it for a little longer for the March LSAT. Anyone know how to extend access?

Thank you

So i just received my Jan score, and I scored lower than my first two attempts (just as I expected).

Will this have a negative impact on my chances of getting accepted?

I just got my LSAT score and I've already applied to schools. How long will it take LSAC to resend the report?

Should I email the schools and let them know my scores have posted? Asking because my application status for the schools says incomplete.

Do you use your pre-phase to choose a correct answer or use it to get rid of wrong answers? Or a combination of both? Trying to find a new strategy for choosing LR question

Hello!

I'm in a bit of a pickle. Here are the facts:

I moved from CO to WA to attend University of Washington (1st choice, the reason why we moved) or Seattle University (back up, try to transfer to UW after 1st year)

I received full tuition at Denver University!!

I have half of tuition paid for at Seattle University.

I planned to use DU to wager scholarship funds at Seattle University but I doubt they'll match full tuition.

My boyfriend and I have been dating for 6 years and made the move to WA together

Would it be wise to br just the logic reasoning section? Its the only section I have finished completely in the curriculum. My only hang up is that by doing that im not getting a feel for the entire test.

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First lesson: don't lie. It won't be pretty.

My last 4 PTs fall between 162-164, in reviewing these I've been able to establish where my weakness is.. but I genuniely am at a loss for how to improve.

I completed PT60 (June'10) yesterday and scored 162. I am able to accept my LG and LR missed questions, because I've learned why I was wrong and the why the correct answer is correct.

However, RC is another story entirely. I consistently missed 10-11 questions in this section, and not necessary because I run out of time. I typically finish the last passage with about 2-3 minutes to review anything I was unsure about.

Anyhow, ANY ADVICE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! If someone wants to be study partners (at least for RC) I do have pdf copies of some LSATs I'd be willing to share.

PT60 Breakdown:

S1.LR (-6)

S2.LG (-2)

S3.LR (-5)

S4.RC (-11)

Hi all,

I turned to this community after hitting a hard plateau upon taking a rushed 2-month Blueprint course. I started off with 154 and could not get beyond early 160s. Realizing that I wasn't where I wanted to be, I delayed my LSAT and studied on this platform for 2 more months and took the November LSAT, ending up with a 168. Since then, I've somewhat unexpectedly gotten into incredible school including NYU, Berkeley, Michigan, Duke, Cornell, GULC, UCLA, and USC but I'm heavily leaning towards UCLA because: 1) I want to eventually settle and practice in SoCal 2) my boyfriend is skeptical of LDRs. By the way, I cannot recommend the 7Sage unlimited edit package enough, the editors helped me through the whole process from brainstorming to polishing the final draft. UCLA is an incredible law school, and was definitely my target, but I'm reluctant to let go of these incredible opportunities at T-14. Am I making a smart decision by foregoing T-14, and will this decision impact my marketability as a lawyer in the long-run? I'm desperately trying to be rational, but am being pulled in million directions. What would you guys do in my shoes?

Hello, I'm currently about 40% of the way through JY's course but would love to find others to study/take practice tests with in Boston/Cambridge. I'm taking the LSAT in June but am happy to study with anyone regardless of test date.

I will be taking the LSAT one final time this March in hopes of getting off of a few waitlists and upping my scholarship prospects. I would like to find an LR study buddy to BR over Skype with. I usually miss between 4-6 questions between both sections and would like to work to get that down a bit for a shot at 170s. I am open to working with anyone. Shoot me a message if you might be interested!