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For anyone who is close to done with their prep, did you follow the schedule 7sage generates perfectly or did you tweak it? I started the free trial last week (5 months from my anticipate test date) and I was wondering if the schedule is comprehensive enough. I am shooting for getting the Ultimate. I like this prep the best out of the other ones I have seen. I can pull off atleast 20 hours per a week to prep as well.

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Hi:

Hope everyone’s studies are going well. I’m hitting a low in confidence and motivation. I was drilling sections (PT 30s and 50s) for a good two months and felt like I was starting to understand LR a little better. I wasn’t scoring crazy high in the sections, however, it was considerably higher than what I started with. (-3/5 at my best) I’ve been redoing the questions I did wrong in addition to reviewing them with JY’s video explanations. I usually get over 20 correct when I do BR. Timing has always been an issue for me.

However, in the last week, I’ve moved onto the newest PTs: PT 70s and 80s (skipping around) and I’ve noticed a huge plunge in my LR and even RC sections (which were never that low). My LG is fine which at least I can hold on to that...

My LSAT is June 3. I’m trying not to succumb to pressure and stress but it’s very disheartening to see my progress dip so low a month before the exam.

Does anyone have any LR studying tips? I have roughly four weeks left until my exam. I was thinking of drilling question types I’m weak on.

All as any input is welcome, thank you and good luck everyone!

-N

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For those who are far along in their LSAT journey and used 7Sage to get there, what do you wish you knew before starting the core curriculum? I'm open to tips, tricks, general reflections, etc. I'm going to (officially) start my LSAT journey in a few weeks. I'm taking 7 months off to do nothing but focus on studying for the January LSAT. I love hearing from folks who have more experience than me. What do you wish you knew when you were starting out? Excited to be a part of this community!

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Hey all,

Can someone point me in the direction of the lesson that explains the process by which he came to the conclusion he found at around 8:40 of this instruction video?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-2-game-3/

I've gone through his conditional logic tutorials but I haven't been able to find the lesson where he explains either/or rules in relation to in/out games. Why is it that at least one of L or M must be assigned to the "in" group in this sub-group, while the other is free to float?

Thanks!

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Hey all, hope everyone’s doing great. Would appreciate some input here. Back in February 2018 I took my first diagnostic at this LSAT course I was taking, and I scored a 140. The instructor told us not to guess on this first PT so we could get a solid idea of our weaknesses or something like that. Anyways, fast forward to today and I’m scoring 157 consistently. I’ve become curious about what my diagnostic score would have been had I guessed. I guess I want to know this in order to accurately assess how much I’ve improved thus far. (Feeling really discouraged about still not being to break the 160’s after studying for this test for legit forever lol)

Would appreciate if anyone could give an educated guess about what I would have likely scored had I guessed!

I know this is a weird question lol, and probably a dumb thing to ask, but I’d appreciate any input. Thanks!

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Hi all!

I just have a question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC and what happens when you Satisfy the SC through Valid Argument Form #1 and Deny the NC through Valid Argument Form #2. Here is where my thinking is at right now if any of you can correct me please do!!

Or in the Sufficient Condition

Valid Argument Form #1: Satisfying the Sufficient Condition

A or B --> C

Because it is an or statement there are three ways that can you can possibly satisfy the Sufficient Condition and conclude C.

  • A and /B
  • B and /A
  • A and B (Because unless otherwise specified we default to or as inclusive)
  • Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Necessary Condition

    A or B --> C

    When you deny the Necessary Condition by saying /C you can end up with 3 possibilities.

  • A and /B
  • B and /A
  • /A and /B
  • And in the Necessary Condition

    Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Sufficient Condition

    A --> B and C

    When you say /B and /C you conclude /A because B and C are jointly necessary they must both be denied.

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    I'm gonna be as candid and honest as possible for time purposes as well as for authenticity. I am and have been really struggling with the LSAT. I know that's not special but the amount of time I have been struggling with it is becoming debilitating. I started my journey last June.

    While there were a few months that I stopped studying for necessary reasons, for at least a very solid 6 months let say, I have been grinding it out. I'm a very committed person who prides himself on maintaining a positive attitude--someone who emphasizes continued effort over attachment to outcomes.

    I am here now, less than a month out from writing my second LSAT and am finding myself continually having negative and defeated thoughts. It's not only distracting from the work of studying, it's becoming paralyzing. My story is not unique in regards to having a goal set and wanting to bridge the gap between now and when I accomplish it. What does feel isolating is not maybe being cut out for this.

    Not like any one person can decide for another that, "yes, you're right, you're not cut out for this", but in these dark times when there's little to no progress after a lot of focused effort, your curiosity over whether you are capable of achieving a set goal and it's effects on your life's plans really takes over.

    I am writing this for a couple reasons. I want others who have or are maybe experiencing something similar to know they are not alone. Second, I want people to know that moving forwards while simultaneously acknowledging self doubt is important and maybe helpful. I'm not giving up, I'll continue to put sincere efforts into this goal, and I'm committed to writing this exam in a few weeks.

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    LR is my lowest scoring section by far! I'm getting really concerned about this. Are there any tips you guys recommend that will help me improve this section??

    Should i just be practicing over and over again? or is there a better technique or trick for some questions that will ensure I get the right answers?

    Anything helps! Im getting anxiety about this.

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    Hi folks:

    Continuing our weekly series of group review sessions in will be hosting a review of pt 74 this Sunday at 10:00 am eastern.

    We will cover all sections of this test. To get the most out of this session please complete pt 74 beforehand and review your answers but don't necessarily check your answers. If you are having issue with a particular question we can review as a group.

    Meeting link:

    https://zoom.us/j/702380745

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    In regards to PT31 Game 2 question 8, if the rule states /A and/B —-> C, then the contrapositive would be /C —-> A or B. My question is, can both A and B be in (I.e. at least one is in) or is it just either A or B, not both. Thank you!

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    Hi everyone,

    I tried searching in the discussions and the CC but wasn't able to find what I'm looking for... feel free to redirect me if there's already a lesson/thread that covers this.

    Can anyone provide me with an example of a Flaw type problem where it mistakes a necessary condition for a sufficient condition as well as a problem where it mistakes a sufficient condition for a necessary condition?

    I conceptually understand what mistaking one for the other looks like when written in lawgic but would like to see how this looks like in an LSAT problem.

    Thank you!

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    I just started 7sage so I'm still getting familiar with the website. I've seen several comments that people are doing time sections and I think I would rather do that as well in addition to doing weekly practice test. But how are you guys doing the time sections does 7sage provide this or is this something I have to do on my own?

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    After 5 weeks of 159~162, I finally scored 167 on PT59!!!! Aaaaaahhhhhhaahahahahahahahh

    This is so exciting!!! I was starting to doubt myself because scoring 161 consistently for over a month did damage my self-esteemmmmmm......

    Ahhhhhhahaaahahahahahahah

    Will have to take another PT to confirm whatever happened was not just an outlier... but I’m happy for now!!

    Is the best way to increase BR score to redo CC?

    My average BR score is 170, but want to reach at least 175 for BR.

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    I just wanna clarify something. So i will start the LG section soon.. do you guys recommend i start fool proofing games during the CC or afterwards? and i do have access to PTs 1-35 so i can get the LG bundle.. can you guys tell me when and for what reason should I do the bundle? is that where i start fool proofing? I would really appreciate it if someone can clear this up for me.

    FYI i will take the July test so maybe i should go with a different strategy?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE! :)

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    I am struggling very much with most strongly supported questions. Sometimes I will do problem sets and get 4/5 and then sometimes I get 2/5. I've noticed that reading carefully and looking for key words are a good technique but what other strategies do you have for MSS questions? Thank you.

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    Could someone please post the podcast where several high scorers talk about they're daily habits in the few weeks leading up to the test? I can't find it easily by searching, and last time I listened to it when it was too late. I'd love to hear it again. thanks! #help

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    This question may have been posted previously in regards to science, but as somebody who studied liberal arts I find the economics and science questions in logical reasoning and reading comp way more challenging because I have to take extra time just to understand the content otherwise I end up not understanding entirely which leads me to the wrong answer. I read a bit of science and economics on my own but I was wondering if anybody has any tips for this? Publications to read etc?

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    Hi,

    I am having trouble regarding timed pt and anxiety issue.

    So when I do full timed-pt, my score is 160-167 but in BR, I constantly hit 173+.

    This huge difference sucks since everytime I saw questions without timing going, it is not that difficult (I miss easy questions very often under timed)

    I feel stucked and anxious whenever I am doing timed pt and that happens just before I took my first real LSAT and it continues.

    Currently, I am doing one timed pt for one week.

    I do not want to push myself so harsh to alleviate burnout status.

    What should I do?

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    Now that the first deposit date has passed, you may find yourself sitting on a waitlist. How long do you have to wait? How long does a school maintain its waitlist? This will depend on the school. Some schools will notify and release candidates from their waitlist after a certain point. This would provide some closure for you as an applicant. Other schools may maintain their waitlist up through orientation in case of any “melt” throughout the summer. If deposited candidates withdraw because they get admitted off waitlists elsewhere, the school will turn to their waitlist to maintain their class size or their medians. A school may turn to the waitlist all the way up through orientation in some cases.

    So how long should you stay on a waitlist? This depends on how badly you want to attend the target school. Preparing to attend law school, perhaps in a new city or state, can be a complicated process. Students have ended up sleeping on a couch or living out of a hotel room for a few weeks having accepted a last minute offer of admission from a school. They might start the beginning of law school orientation at one school and finish orientation at another school. If it’s August 1st, you probably will have deposited elsewhere, and you may decide it is better just to prepare for school with the concrete offer you have. At that point, if you haven't been released from the waitlist yet, you may decide to withdraw from the waitlist. Or, you may decide that you are only as committed as your options. If so, you should be aware of and be ready to meet these potential challenges of relocating in a hurry.

    If no obstacle is too great between you and your target school, then what should you do right now as you sit on the waitlist? Well, you shouldn’t just “wait” quietly. There is no way to know what a target school is going to do with their waitlist, how big or small it is, or if they will pull 5 or 50 people from it. Nevertheless, if a school turns to the waitlist, and your application meet their requirements, you want your file to be one of the notable ones with current activity. Keep your file up to date by letting the school know that you are ready, willing, and able to commit to the school immediately should you be selected. Connect with the admissions office periodically by phone or by email (once every 3 weeks or as directed by the admissions officer) and say, “I know I am on the waitlist but I wanted to let you know that School X is still my top choice and if admitted, I would definitely enroll.” Be aware of the tone of your conversations, be professional, and take direction from the admissions officer with whom you are communicating.

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