Hi all --

I'm looking for some advice in terms of studying for the LSAT and pacing myself leading up to my upcoming exam.

A little background: I took the February exam this year. I also took a course leading up to it (Test Masters), and while I really liked the course, and I really threw myself into it, I realized after I got my score that maybe cramming all of that information in 3 months wasn't the best for me. When I first took my dry practice test on the first day of class, I got something like a 145. My score definitely improved a ton through the course, and by the time I was taking practice tests independently leading up to the test, I was pretty consistently getting 160s. I also got some 170s too, which was encouraging but seemed too good to be true.

And I was correct. I don't know what happened, well, I kind of do know what happened because logic games are usually my strength and I sort of froze after a very confusing section, plus my reading comprehension stands to be improved....and let's be real, I make silly mistakes in logical reasoning too. I ended up getting a 150, which was pretty disappointing. I definitely put way too much pressure on myself and burnt out on test day.

So, I'm taking another stab at this via 7sage. I just took my practice test and got a 159 (161 BR). I want to take a disclosed test next time around because it really sucked not to know what I got wrong, so, I can't take the test until June. That's a lot of time. I want to use it wisely but also not die/fizzle out. But I'd really like to aim for a 170. Is that insane? Can I do this without losing my mind? As a 26 year old, am I running out of time/waiting too long?

Honestly, this is all so foreign to me because I would theoretically be the first lawyer in my family and I certainly was not surrounded by lawyers growing up or even in college. I work in politics now, so really it's tough to detect sincere advice :)

I hope I don't sound like a complete dummy!

hey all

so i've been noticing a trend where for every LR section, there are about 2-4 questions where I'm down to 2 AC's (a wrong AC and the right AC), and I often pick the wrong AC over the right AC.

This is very frustrating because sometimes I feel like I'm just rolling the dice between the 2 AC's (and that I was so close to getting the right AC). Any advice or suggestion to deal with this?

I think perhaps I should just get in a habit of skipping these questions once I'm down to 2 AC's, and then try to come back to them?

The challenge is I often have other questions (like 2 or 3) that I had no idea how to do and I completely skipped that I return to do during round 2, and then don't have enough time to review these questions where I was just down to 2 AC's.

So for priority for Round 2...

Should I

Plan A:

Plan B:

The challenge is that often the 1st step in each plan takes a solid amount of time, and I run out of time to fully do the 2nd step.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

hi everyone, what would you suggest are the best study tools to prepare for the LSAT. i am currently using the lsat prep offered by the khan academy online but i’m not sure how effective it is. i plan on retaking the lsat in january

I subscribed The Economist paper magazines and thought it helped my reading skills. But they don’t have many LSAT-style law articles. Is there any law magazines that are recommended for LSAT extra-curriculum reading? Preferably something that has paper version since I prefer to read on paper and won’t be taking the digital LSAT (hopefully).

Hey everyone. I work as a paralegal at a family law firm.Yesterday a client left threatening to come back with a gun. I called the police, and they said to call if he actually came back. He did. He rolled by our office slowly and then parked down the street. I saw him get out and then stand on the corner, facing our office, dressed in a black hoody with the hood up and black pants, talking on his phone....emphatically, let’s say. I called the police and they met him on the corner, frisked him and he didn’t have a gun. He’ll be trespassing if he comes back. I guess he was just waiting for us to leave for the day so he could talk.

Question though: if I get shot, hopefully in the arm or leg, and in a non-fatal fashion, you think mentioning that in my personal statement will give me any boost? I’m set to take the November test and with a good score I’ll be a splitter.

I have a quite low cGPA as I was pretty sick during my 2nd and 3rd year but it is not well documented.

I have 3.09 cGPA, 3.49 L2/B2 GPA, 166 LSAT.

My background is Biomedical Engineering and was part of a varsity team at the uni.

I do have quite strong background in research and all. Also, strong ECs including Policy researcher.

Not sure if anyone is familiar with Canadian Law school admission..

I applied to Western, Ottawa, York, Queen's with Access Claim and will be applying to Dalhousie.

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 85 (September 2018 LSAT).

There will be ten sessions total.

Some sessions will be from 12p - 2p ET and others will be from 6p - 8p ET. Please see detailed schedule below.

What happens in these sessions?

For RC, we'll read the passage together, paragraph by paragraph. I'll ask you to make low resolution summaries of each paragraph. We'll use those low res summaries to build higher resolution summaries. Then, we'll answer the questions together. For LR, I'll ask you to state which questions were circled for BR. We'll work through the questions the group nominates.

How should I prepare?

Have a clean, unmarked copy of the PT ready in front of you so we can read and answer the questions together. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

Next Session

Tuesday Nov. 13

12p - 2p ET

S1.RC Passage 4

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If you have an Ultimate+ account, you will be able to view and print PT 85 under the Syllabus. If you are enrolled in Starter, Premium, or Ultimate, you can also purchase PT 85 as an add-on to your existing course here.

Past Sessions

Sunday Nov. 4

12p - 2p ET

S2.LR

Monday Nov. 5

12p - 2p ET

S3.LR

Tuesday Nov. 6

12p - 2p ET

S1.RC Passage 3

Wednesday Nov. 7

12p - 2p ET

S1.RC Passage 2

Thursday Nov. 8

6:10p - 8:10p ET (start and end time delayed by 10 mins)

S2.LR

Friday Nov. 9

6p - 8p ET

S3.LR

Saturday Nov. 10

6p - 8p ET

S1.RC Passage 1

Sunday Nov. 11

12p - 2p ET

S3.LR

Monday Nov. 12

12p - 2p ET

S2.LR

At least once or twice during a PT I'll catch myself losing interest or feeling tired. I'm sure I'm not the only one who runs into this issue. Are there any techniques or tricks that can help re-energize you mid section? I know sometimes changing my posture helps. In undergrad I would to raise my hand and speak if I found myself getting tired. That seemed to help so perhaps quietly reading the stimulus under your breath can achieve a similar result. Yawning is also something that seems to positively affect alertness and puts you in a more relaxed state. I'd love to hear how you all stay alert!

hey guys, i havent bought a plan yet. I learn through video explanations the best. which subscription plan has the most LR videos by JY?

This past weekend I was going for run and I tripped, fell, and broke my distal scaphoid (small bone in my right, dominant hand). I can write but very slowly. I can still diagram but it is painful and difficult. I took the September test and got a 155 so I was really hoping to take it in two weeks again as I feel ready to kill it. I am all ready to apply to law schools for this admissions cycle otherwise so I am supper bummed :(

How do I go about this? Do I just email them?

If I can't get accommodated, is January too late?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Does GPA from a tougher school count for anything? Do admissions officers take that into consideration when they see your overall undergraduate GPA?

Like, what are the chances there's a comparative passage on the November test?

Hello,

LR has always been the section that came the most naturally to me. After reaching a certain baseline of studying/understanding the test, I’ve consistently scored a -4/-5 on most LR sections. The issue is, I found that during the real exam + the digital field exam I was getting -7/-8 on at least one LR section from test day nerves + not having an actual strategy for many question types and second-guessing my “gut” on test day. The 7Sage analytics pointed out that my errors generally come from Flaw, Sufficient & Pseudo Sufficient Assumption, and MSS questions. I focused on those videos/problem sets in the core curriculum for about two weeks, and saw the minute differences between the right answers and the trap answers I would pick. I did fairly well on the drills and felt like I had a better strategy of how to approach the question + how to decide between two answer choices that seemed right on first glance rather than solely relying on my gut answer choice.

But, upon returning to timed section practice, I found that I was second-guessing myself on virtually all of the LR section (not just the question types I was studying). I would go back and forth about whether I was missing some tiny detail that was important or over-analyzing that same detail. It seems, based on my incorrect answer analysis, that was doing the latter (over-analyzing) especially if I gave myself more time and blind-reviewed (my LR BR changes have been almost always wrong lately). It’s frustrating though because analyzing all the details is exactly what I trained my mind to do in order to do well during the question-specific drills. I saw my score go from -4/-5 to -8/-9 and I’m not sure what to do. I’m taking the November exam and have been studying for a very very long time (on and off for over a year... I will not be taking this exam again haha) so I’m not sure if I should just go back to my original “gut” feelings and accept my -4/-5 range (with likely more wrong on test day) or if there’s some way I can absorb this improvement by the 17th. It makes logical sense that doing well on the drills should have helped overall, but it didn’t.

Anyone have suggestions or experience something similar?

Hey everyone,

I was hoping someone could help. Essentially, I applied for accommodations due to lingering effects of a recent concussion I suffered. I was seeking accommodations for the Nov 17 LSAT in Canada. Although, I was granted the accommodations my test date has been moved to the 19th which seems a little odd. I have 2 questions; firstly, will I still receive my score at the same time as other Nov writers? Secondly, will I get a different version of the exam than individuals writing on the Nov. Anything helps, thank you once again guys!

Hello everyone,

I am planning on taking the January LSAT which is on the 26th, and some of my schools have an application deadline of February 15. Will I receive my score on time for the deadline?

Anyone have notes or a summary from the "Powerscore 2018 Crystal Ball Webinar" I was hoping they would have a transcribed rendition of the webinar but I just see the vvideo and I was trying to read it at work ? if anyone has the notes I would greatly appreciate it !

I understand that the downside to this would be that you don't necessarily get accustomed to your own confidence/accuracy (since you aren't circling specific questions to blind review), but I think it may still be a net gain because you're blind reviewing far more questions. Anyone have insight on this?

We got a new version of the iOS app ready to be released soon, but you can try it out today with TestFlight if you don't mind being a guinea pig. Here are the main changes:

• New: Remembers your last place in Discussion, Proctor, Logic Games, and Course - even after the app is restarted.

• Improved: Background audio keeps playing when app is loaded.

• Improved: Proctor settings are easier to adjust.

• Improved: PDFs in course are downloadable.

• Improved: Grader result tables maintain color after being selected.

To see it, first go to the AppStore and install "TestFlight". This is an official Apple app that lets people try out versions of apps before they are released on the AppStore.

Then tap the link below:

https://testflight.apple.com/join/PpzI6KHc

This is the first time we're trying a public TestFlight, so please let me know if you run into any difficulties. And of course if you notice any issues with the app, we want to know about it, so please share!

I consistently am getting -5 wrong on LR sections. However, most of the times those wrong answers are from Flaw and Weakening questions. I am blind reviewing, looking at explanations, and writing down each questions I get wrong with explanations as to why I got those questions wrong. I have done LR sections untimed with writing down the premise and conclusion along with timed, and I'm still stuck at around -5.

How do I get better at these questions? I feel like I'm doing all I can. Am I just doomed?

Hi everyone -

I'm in the process of finishing up my application materials for this cycle. I'm planning to apply for NYU's AnBryce Scholarship program. The prompt for the essay is to talk about a personal obstacle, how you embody attributes of an AnBryce scholar in overcoming the obstacle (giving back to society, making a positive impact on the world, etc.), and how you'll use your legal education to promote the ideals of an AnBryce scholar. I basically wrote about a very personal event (a nonconsensual video taken of my legs/thighs on the subway) and how this traumatizing event, rather than letting me down, inspired me to help women facing gender-based violence. I went on to mention how I want to pursue a legal education in public interest to continue helping underrepresented groups. I wasn't sure if the adcom at NYU were looking for something more along the lines of a social/economic obstacle (e.g. overcoming financial hardship or facing discrimination of some sort)? If anyone has advice on the AnBryce essay, and whether I'm on the right track in terms of topic, I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks and good luck to everyone applying this cycle!!

Hi guys, for Columbia's optional part, they say you can include a "brief" supplement diversity essay if you'd like, and the website says to use "best judgement" for the length. Can someone comment on what would be a good length for one? Thanks!

In the video explanation for PT40, Game 3, why did JY set up the circle of cities out of order? We got the cities in the order of HMPTV, and yet when putting up the cities, he wrote them in the order of H M P V T starting with H at the top and going clockwise (notice that he switched the T and the V). Does anyone know why he did this? He didn't seem to explain that at the beginning of the video when he writes down the cities in that circle.

I suspect it was because with the way he wanted to note that H and T couldn't be connected and H and M couldn't be connected, his order allowed him to keep crossed out lines for the M H T at the top of the circle - which wouldn't interfere with drawing connections between the other cities. But if we did the cities in the order given, then in order to cross out the connection between H and T, that would visually interfere with making connections between some of the other cities, like between M and P, for example, since you'd have to draw a connection between M and P while that connection visually intersects with a crossed out connection between H and T. If that's the case, I understand visually why it makes sense, but I don't see how anyone would ever think to write the cities in that order unless they already knew the precise rules and inferences that were about to come up!

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Hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask if anyone has experienced this situation, and how they went about motivating themselves to keep studying and retake the test a 3rd time. I took the Feb 2018 and Oct 2018 LSAT in Australia, and aiming for admission into an Australian uni Feb 2020.

Both of my tests are nondisclosed, so I can’t actually check where I’m going wrong (either for this year only all the tests have become non-disclosed, or in the future all Australian tests will be non-disclosed, I’m not sure.) Anyway, I usually struggle the most with LR, but I panicked during the Oct LSAT and couldn’t solve the LGs properly, even though in my opinion they would have been easy to solve if under other circumstances.

So, as a result I dropped 3 LSAT score marks, but dropped a massive 9 percentile marks. Both marks aren’t near my desired168+.

Any tips on perhaps how to go about improving, staying motivated, and adapting to the changed LSAT style of questions in LR and LG?

Thank you!

I am currently a junior and took the LSAT for the first time in September 2018 beginning of my Junior year of college. I got a 171 on the test.(-1 LG, -5 LR and -4 RC) I am shooting for a top 20 Law school and know a top 6 is probably not realistic. A scholarship would be great but is not a deal breaker. I am not a URM , have a good GPA(not great 3.5 ) from a top LAC with a difficult major economics and math minor and great leadership in college (on board of my college Mock trial and worked for residence life). also have 2 good summer internships mostly economics focused and hoping to have a great legal internship as a rising senior this summer.

I studied for about 7 wks last summer following my internship in DC last summer and before I went back to start my junior year of college. I had a concentrated 7 wks (not working, was finished my internship) so although only 7 wks of studying , It was FT studying without working or school stressors. I purchased the Starter course in addition to purchasing from Amazon PT 72-84. I got a 162 on my diagnostic in June prior to studying and focused MY timed practice test (72-84, 36, 44 )on the more recent exams instead of the older exams included in the starter course. My 15 timed PT were between166-174 so I guess I was pleased with the 171 I got on test day although I believe I could have gotten a little higher.

I know law schools only use the highest score, but my fear is if i shoot for a second time not only could i be wasting a whole lot of time , I could score lower and it might look better to have one attempt at 171 with no repeats or cancellations rather than take it a second time and posssibly score below 170.

The test is coming up and I must say, I'm starting to feel a bit discouraged. I do feel a huge leap from my initial (137) in June of last year because now I'm consistently scoring 149-151 but on PT 38 about two days ago, I scored a 156 which was my best yet. I was very happy, but today I took PT 39 and scored 149. BR'ing and finding it extremely difficult to focus and I'm just doing terrible. I'm not sure if this is just a really difficult exam for me, or if I'm just burnt out? Anyone have any advice, I'd really appreciate it. I think I'm just worried the test in November will be even more difficult than this PT 39 I did. I just felt confident and now not so much :(