Hi everyone!

I’ve been plateaued in the high 150’s for the past 5/6 PT’s. My goal is to get a 165 in November, but seeing myself plateau has been really discouraging.

I’m pretty solid on logic games, my RC can use some improvement, but what’s really been hurting me is LR. Specifically, flaw questions and level 5 difficulty questions, regardless of question type.

So my question is, what has helped you the most to break into the 160’s? What have you done to consistently stay there?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you everyone in advance!

Hey everyone, I’ve been MIA the past couple months. I took not getting into any school pretty hard and had to do a lot of re-evaluation of my life. I took on a second job and have been working 70 hour weeks.

Today, however, I got an e-mail from Northwestern School of Law offering me a spot off of their waitlist. I accepted the spot and will be flying out to a Chicago within a week to start my 1L year at NU.

I had to come back to 7Sage to express my deepest thanks to everyone in this community. From JY, to @"Cant Get Right" to every single person I worked with through this process on the forums, thank you so much for everything you have done to make my dream of attending a T-14 Law School come true.

For everyone out there still struggling and climbing that mountain, don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t. If you work full-time you can make your dreams come true. If you have a bad gpa, you don’t have work experience, or you are struggling with the LSAT, push through. Your hard work WILL PAY OFF. Do not listen to the plethora of naysayers that will haunt you along the way. Stay positive, stay motivated and keep your goal in sight. I promise you if you do that, and never give up, you will eventually be where you want to be.

I can’t describe how much this community means to me, and even in my absence I’ve still thought about each and every one of you. Again thank you 7Sage from the bottom of my heart.

I know everyone recommends reading the magazines The Economist and the Atlantic for improving reading comprehension.

But it seems philosophy majors should have a distinct advantage in reading dense abstruse passages. Should I be reading philosophy books on the side to improve reading comprehension?

I am quite confused why number 5 is D. D and C seem almost identical in pattern, what makes D more right?

Admin note: Please use the format "PTx.Sx.Qx - The beginning of the stimulus" and indicate which section it's from.

Can you guys share your tips for higher accuracy with BR?

I'm PTing in the low-mid 160's and am only seeing a 6-7 point increase on my BR. I really want to aim for 180 BR in order to see improvements with my actual scores. I spend anywhere from 1-3 days going over my PTs slowly but still do not see that much of a difference. I also admittedly input my PT answers to see how I did before beginning my BR, is this not advised?

Thread title kind of says it all. I'm extremely nervous about this section because it will most likely determine whether or not I reach my goal score. I've done 20+ RC sections since I began studying and have been scoring anywhere from -6 to -16... which is extremely concerning. Just recently I was able to get through all 4 passages and only had to blind guess on 4 questions (before I could barely get done with 3 passages and question sets.

I was wondering if anybody had any tips or review methods that helped them get better and more consistent at RC? I watch JY's videos which seem to be helpful but i'm still struggling with being consistent.

Thanks in advance!

Hi all, I think my problem with LR right now is not having enough time to do a thorough second round. I have tried for a long time to get through the 25 questions in 25 minutes but have not been able to do it. Right now, I usually complete the questions in ~30 minutes, leaving me ~5 minutes for a second round. I do try and skip questions--I skip around 3/4 if I can't understand the stimulus/don't like any answer choices.

If I had 10 full minutes, I really think I could get my score higher. For those who have achieved answering 25 questions in 25 minutes--how did you do it??

Will it take 18 months to go through the ultimate plus curriculm

RC isn't my favorite section. I get anywhere from 10-16 right, 13-14 would be an accurate average for me on RC.

It's important to mention that I've never practiced it (going to do it when I get there in the CC). Is it possible to go from averaging 13-14 to about 20 right on RC after finishing the CC? I'm wondering because I've heard so many people say RC is tough to improve on because it's something that a person was taught there whole lives and can't be improved in a matter of months.

How much did you improve on RC after finishing the CC?

I only finish about 3 passages by the way, I usually run out of time while reading the 4th.

Thanks!!!

Hey guys,

I began doing logic games last week and I’m kind of stuck. On average it takes me 12-15 minutes to finish a game and sometimes I can’t even finish a game.

Not only that, I’ll reprint the games and redo them but only to reinforce the skills learned.

But I feel stuck.

I’m not exactly sure if I should restart the section and start from the beginning. I got up to sequencing games with a twist problem set 4. But even still I feel very uncomfortable moving on.

I’m kind of stuck because I don’t know how to progress through the section. I don’t wan to move too slow and I don’t want to speed through it.

How should I move forward from here?

Thanks

Hi everyone,

I'm confused about the difference between Sufficient Assumptions vs. Necessary Assumptions that act as a "bridge."

I understand that sometimes answer choices can be both sufficient and necessary.

And I know that sometimes the LSAT writers include a sufficient assumption answer choice as a trap when the question stem asks for a necessary assumption.

Would anyone be able to shed some light on the difference between Sufficient Assumptions and Necessary Assumptions that act as a "bridge"?

As an example, PT 44, Section 4, question 7 is relevant. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-44-section-4-question-07/

Thank you!

Hello all! Hope your studying is going well. Mine is a perpetual struggle filled with endless disappointment. In spite of that, I am determined to change that soon!

I recently took or "wrote" (Canada shoutout) PT 36 after a few months of CC. My score was a 155 and my BR was a 171. Additionally, I have not finished the ultimate plus CC. I am really striving to make my BR perfect and increase my actual score to a 165+.

I am missing at least 6 questions in my BR for LR type questions, however I am perfect on LG and -1 on RC. Clearly, I am not understanding the fundamentals of LR.

What worked for you? How I should approach this next portion of studying?

I was aiming to take the Nov 17 test, but I am not sure if that is viable at the moment. I took the test last December and scored a 156. I took up studying again this past March, but I have been working full-time until mid-July. I am worried that I am rushing through the CC and PTs in order to meet the Nov 17 deadline.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

How much do people actually improve in the last couple weeks?

I've been getting more comfortable and I genuinely feel like my PT scores (which have been stagnant for a while) are going to improve over these next few weeks but will it be enough? My average is a 161 but if I can just fix my LG issues then that alone would put me at about a 165. (I BR around a 170) And I still have a long ways to go with skipping and general time management.

Should I simmer my expectations? Or can people really jump 5 points in a matter of weeks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschooladmissions/comments/99i84k/why_you_shouldnt_do_biglaw_or_go_to_t14/

Is this post only deterring me from going to law school? I'm a bit bummed and honestly thinking idk what i'm getting myself into pursuing T-14 in hopes of BL.

Hey fellow 7Sagers! I am having a hard time understanding question 11of S1, PT 65. I was a little apprehensive of asking for help for this question, but I really can't understand why A is correct. Can someone please help clarify this for me? Thank you.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-1-question-11/

Hello,

I havent bought 7sage yet. I was wondering about the computer requirements. Could you use a tablet or smartphone?

I'm slowly improving my speed with LR and now have more time to go back and check the questions I circled. However, I find that I'm overwhelmed by the possibility of picking a question that will suck up all my remaining time rather than the questions I simply needed to re-read.

Should you tackle the questions you narrowed down to 2 answer choices first, or should you tackle the ones that stumped you the first time around? What I do is circle the ones I was unsure about and I draw a square around the ones where the stimulus confused me. I typically go for the ones with squares first but I'm starting to wonder if that's a mistake.

Hey guys,

I'm confused about how to deal with the analogous questions in RC. This type of questions spent me lots of time, but still be wrong. Is there any tips or approach?

Thanks!

After realizing that it was not the career I wanted to pursue, I withdraw in good standing from a graduate program at the end of my first trimester. Due to my withdrawal, I did not receive credits. So I would love to hear your advice on if and how I should include this experience in my law school résumé.

Hey ya'll --

Does anyone have insight into whether T15 schools still average scores? Or do they primarily only consider your top score.

Thanks!!

Hello,

I'm planning to apply next cycle but I wanted to get LOR by this year from professors. Is there expiration date to LoR?

Hi friends, I'm reaching out for any and all advice on speeding up Logic Games. When I do the games timed, the ones I finish are 90%+ correct, but I am struggling to even finish 3 games. I know my perfectionism is getting in the way, and I'm trying to push myself to be scrappy and fast, but still struggling so hard. With only 3 weeks left, I need all the support/advice out there on speed. Any fellow perfectionists who overcame this? Or non-perfectionists who can teach me your ways? Thank you guys.

September'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 83 | Thursday, August 23rd, 2018 | 7:30 PM ET

This week's call will be led by our very own @BinghamtonDave

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(What it'll feel like at the end of the session)

If you are done the curriculum or almost done the curriculum, join us when you can. We welcome people in all stages of prep. The point of the group is to get your lsat nerd on with other like-minded people and make the process more fun. Expand your thinking and learning by interacting with others! For my fellow shy-people, everyone is going to be focused on their own answers/questions that I guarantee you they will not be judging you based on mispronounced words, reading-speed, etc. It's all for fun!

Note: Take the PT under timed conditions; BR to the best of your abilities; join us for all or part of the call! For the purposes of the group please don't check the answers beforehand. If you happen to know the answer, keep it to yourself, and win the argument using your reasoning. Also, please don't go "so I know the answer is C but I don't know why B is wrong?" as the purpose is so that we all collaborate on improving our reasoning skills.

Enter the questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet below! Write your name beside the question(s) you wish to cover, if the question(s) you want to cover are already marked by someone else, add your name! :) The more discussion, the merrier.

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ZoI9Nu-8SmhPh_MBpz8W6hEcDV1CyhZJVPKDQ7s08E/edit?usp=sharing

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September 18 Study Group

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Hello, all! Can you suggest how to effectively parse sentences? I understand that every sentence is unique in its structure, but is there a universal, generic application or set of steps that can help in parsing ? Thanks.

hey all,

So I've been noticing that I've been missing a lot of NA, PSA, and SA questions. I think I want to really drill these questions so they become like second nature.

My question is - how should I drill these question types?

I've already done all PT's from 20-57.

I'm planning to save PT's 58-84 as full length PT practice tests.

Should I drill these question types by redoing NA/SA/SA questions from PT's I've already done -- PT's 20-57?

Also, should I also drill questions I've previously gotten right, or focus more on questions I got wrong?

Any input or advice would be appreciated. Thanks!