Hi all, here's my current approach:

Please let me know what you guys think of this approach.

Thank you. :)

Took another PT yesterday. LR: -5 and -8. LG -3. You know what? That'll do for me. My problem is RC. I went 10/27 on the June LSAT and on my PT yesterday I went 15/27. I don't know what else to do. I have been doing low res summaries, but there are just some of those "what the F" passages that lose me. Tips? Things that worked for you? Lately I have just been practicing RC over and over, but at this point I do not know what else I can do.

I am a reader too...like, this is frustrating.

Can someone tell me where to find the discussion that JY posted a while back about the 7sage tutors?

What exactly is this foolproofing concept that everyone is talking about? I did another course but looking to get outside knowledge and different inputs.

3 weeks away from the September exam and PT 72 just killed me. Trying really hard to not beat myself up over this and taking it as a learning experience, however this is easier said than done. My RC score was my saving grace and after this PT... I'm just shook.

Any "post L PT trying not to have a meltdown so close to the exam" rituals you guys have?? Please lmao :( (3(/p)

hi all! I have been self studying using the entire powerscore bibles since middle of may & originally planning on taking september test. started feeling unprepared & decided to hold off until november test and put my studying efforts toward something else. had recently used some of the 7sage LG explanation videos & found those very helpful, would like to try switching all of my study time over to 7sage. since i have been studying with powerscore for a solid 3 months and almost halfway through all 3 section’s bibles, was wondering if the 7sage starter pack would be sufficient enough for now? looking for any advice/switchover study tips! thanks a lot!

I'm currently in the process of fool proofing (I'm on PT 8 of 35). I feel more comfortable with logic games but it's still by far my weakest section. I often find myself freezing up and having to watch the explanation because I have no idea how to proceed with the game. How long did it take for logic games to click for you? Did it happen gradually or all at once?

So, I bought an in-class LSAT prep package through Kaplan. However, after I paid/started the course, I started seeing all the negative reviews/couldn't get a refund for my Kaplan course and found 7sage, which has been really awesome. I'm going to finish out the Kaplan course (I'm halfway done), but once it ends, I want to hit the ground running fully switching over to 7sage.

I only have the premiere package for 7sage and it looks like most of the PrepTests provided, most of them will have been used in class materials from Kaplan. Is this an issue? I'm also planning on downloading all the PrepTests that come with my Kaplan course online so I can have access to them, but I won't have the 7sage explanations. Should I modify the preptests I do to be the ones that I won't have done with Kaplan, still do BR, but just independently look up answer explanations? Also, any advice from people who have made the switch from other LSAT prep courses and what to look out for?

Would love to hear about what jobs you are considering or have lined up post LSAT.

I am considering on applying for another legal assistant position but I know I may not be an ideal candidate since I would only be available for less than a year. Anyone have thoughts on whether I should apply anyway or how you would handle the time frame? Thank you!

Hello,

I scored a 165 on the June 2018 LSAT and at first was happy to pair that with my 3.94, but then realized the difference even just 3 points higher could make. Hence, I'm retaking in November and was hoping someone might be able to provide some pointers with improving RC & LR score. To explain my situation and provide context:

Started studying in January for June 2018 LSAT. Out of college- work full-time so limited time to study each week.

Read, annotated, and reviewed Powerscore Bibles. After reading the Bibles and taking my first PT, I hit 162

I then focused for a whole month on drilling LG with 7Sage and consistently started to hit -0/1. I LOVED 7Sage's method for attacking LGs.

After mastering LG and then isolating the LR Question Types that I kept missing (Flaw of Reasoning+PR Qs), I started to hit 169 regularly from May-June on practice tests.

Come June 2018 LSAT, I scored a 165. I bombed the Scientific Reading passage and ran out of time on the Comparative Reading passage. Also, on each LR section two of the problems I missed were one of the first six problems. Interestingly, I never miss a problem in the 20s.

Any advice for improving on RC and those early LR questions? Any strategies that work for you particularly well?

My path to success, as I see it, is to get RC down to -2, keep LG down to -0/-1, and get each LR section down to -3 then I'm golden. My goal score would be 169. Thank you in advance for the advice! I really appreciate it and good luck in destroying the LSAT!

If you're taking the September 2018 LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, you can get a free 14-day extension from this page: https://classic.7sage.com/free-extension/

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

After completing the CC, how long do you recommend the PT/BR process be? I know some of you might say until you are PT'ing higher than your desired score, but on average, how much time is needed/recommended?

I am trying to get a realistic idea of the range that my September 2018 LSAT could be in a couple weeks. My diagnostic score was a 140 and now months later my last few LSAT's have been 156,155,157,158,158 from PT's 73-77. I feel that I am still making HUGE progress with every test even if my scores don't show it and will continue to push over these final few weeks. My target score has been a 160 from the very beginning. Do you guys think a 160 on the actual LSAT is pushing it at this point ? I'm a realist and would just enjoy your honest opinions. Thanks !

I am scoring in the 165-170 range and my BR score shot up by +10 points.

Granted, I did my BR across 2 days, 2 sections each. I was plateauing for a while so I wanted to really sit and get to the root of the problem.

My most inconsistent hence worse performing section is RC. I attempt three passages in total(out of time) and I score around -5 (in total after reasonably guessing in the 4th passage).

I have some trouble of NA, PSA and SA questions which I am thinking could be fixed by drilling.

Games are usually fine, but if I picked up speed-I could check my work for accuracy and close the -2 to -1 gap that happens

sometimes.

My biggest problem that leads to the staggering difference is mental fatigue/lack of focus/losing the ability to be 100% attentive as I reach the end of section 2 or start section 3. While I know meditation and such factors could help, I am also assuming, if it has to do with the fact that I am not moving fast enough/not answering the earlier LR questions fast enough and giving them too much thought thereby wasting mental energy instead of doing a turbo LR start.

I am looking to all of you people for insights and advice.

Thank you.

Ive noticed that red pencil crayons stand out more when highlighting reading comprehension passages. Are we allowed to bring them into the lsat test centre for this purpose?

Hello all,

I have been leading the September 2018 study group since June (!) and as d-day is getting closer, I'm happy (?) to announce that I will also be leading BR calls for November 2018 LSAT. This group will be starting a week after the September LSAT (Sep 8) so that people who took or were preparing for September can have a week to rest. We will start on September 20th, which is a Thursday night, at 7:30 PM EST.

If you are interested in joining, please comment down below. If the time chosen most absolutely cannot ever work for you, please message me ASAP so that if there's enough people we can change timing or set up an alternate private group for you. Also, if you are just starting to or about to start PT-ing, this schedule will mainly focus on PTs from 70s and 80s, so PLEASE make sure you do some 40s and 50s before just jumping into the recent tests. Also, this schedule is not meant to be followed rigidly so be sure to take breaks when you need to to combat burnout. PTs are just a guage of your skill, they are not sufficient by themselves, to improve your score. You also need to supplement PTs will timed and untimed drills to solidify your strengths and conquer your weaknesses. As equally important is the need for a thorough BR. This means that you go over every question you were unsure of during timed conditions and write or type out your reasoning. Break down the structure of the stimulus, what the question requires for you, and use your reasoning to eliminate four answer choices and keeping one. This is done so that your reasoning is right in front of you and you can reinforce the right reasoning and get rid of the wrong one. A thorough BR does not consist of "oh well had I looked at it for 2 more seconds, I would've picked D instead of B" you are only doing yourself a disservice.

Here is the tentative schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=o5h8pap75saf8pmasoh80m2a80%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FToronto

Here's how the BR groups work:

If you are done the curriculum or almost done the curriculum, join us when you can. We welcome people in all stages of prep. The point of the group is to get your lsat nerd on with other like-minded people and make the process more fun. Expand your thinking and learning by interacting with others! It's all for fun!

Take the PT under timed conditions; BR to the best of your abilities; join us for all or part of the call! For the purposes of the group please don't check the answers beforehand. If you happen to know the answer, keep it to yourself, and win the argument using your reasoning. Also, please don't go "so I know the answer is C but I don't know why B is wrong?" as the purpose is so that we all collaborate on improving our reasoning skills. We will also discuss strategies for getting faster at certain question types.

There will be a spreadsheet posted when we first start PT-ing (so the week of the 20th). Enter the questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet! Write your name beside the question(s) you wish to cover, if the question(s) you want to cover are already marked by someone else, add your name! :) The more discussion, the merrier. Generally, we only got through one section each session.

We will be using go-to-meeting (access kindly provided by 7sage) and the link will be the same throughout the entire run of the group. It will also be posted on the first week we start.

Oh yes, and also be sure you have watched Josh's seminar on post-CC strategies: https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/

Edit: Also! If you change your username after posting here please inform me, the system does not automatically change old posts made with older usenames with newer ones.

Update: Based off of my experience and deliberation with some other folks, we're going to try something new for this group. Instead of having a call every week, we will instead have a call every other week. The reason being is that I think that the process of taking a PT, BR-ing it thoroughly, and doing drills to address weaknesses that were ascertained from that PT/BR can be really taxing when repeated weekly. I noticed, among myself and regulars on the call, that having the call scheduled every week really exacerbated burnout. Especially since people would try to force themselves to attend as many calls as possible because they felt they'd be missing out and would neglect signs of burnout. I realize that this means there won't be as many calls but this was a decision made after much deliberation. After all, PTs are just a snapshot of your understanding, the bulk of your learning happens in BR and drilling. Of course, people are free to take a PT or two every week if they need to. There is a tentative schedule posted and it has been amended accordingly.

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170 in July (6th take) and 2.99 GPA.

Current offer: 105k Fordham

Goals are BL. Should I take Fordham and run with it or reapply? I'm not a strong T-14 candidate with the # of takes and low GPA. I would take GULC, NW, or UVA but not sure I can get in with my stats. Not sure what to do.

So I’ve been contemplating on writing this post for quite sometime. Mostly from my own personal embarrassment of having an issue with food but also my denial in thinking it wouldn’t make much difference. I’ve read so many posts that talk about eating right on the day of the test and also listened to the webinars where a few people have talked about changing their eating habits while studying. I am going to be very transparent and say that I have struggled with food my entire life. I may or may not be the only one but I certainly don’t want it to continue to affect my ability to do better on this test and even in my life. For the past 2 years I have been able to switch many of the foods that I eat to lower fat and less sugar. For the most part I have been able to switch to healthier options and in doing that while also cutting my portions I have lost a lot of weight. My issue is that I am still not eating healthy per se, nor am I eating enough vegetables. I’ve grown up mostly eating Mexican food. I mean the real southern Mexican food where they don’t put carrots in your rice and they don’t substitute fat because “that’s where the flavor comes from” lol That’s a quote from my family. I also have a love for spicy food. I prefer salty and spicy over sweet and savory. This community has been so great in helping myself and so many others when it comes to helping prepare for a test that makes or breaks our ability to get into the schools we want. That is why I am reaching out and being vulnerable in this confession that I feel my lack of healthy eating is hindering my ability to score higher. Does anyone have advice on how to eat better and what foods to eat? I feel if I had some guidance then it would be much easier for me to make a change. I don’t want to follow a strict diet and I’m not looking for weight loss tips. I just would genuinely like some advice on how to eat healthier and more specifically what are the best foods to help with brain function. I find myself feeling sluggish and sometime even a bit foggy. I know these things can also be affected by sleep so that is something I’m working on as well. For those who offer advice thank you in advance and for those that are just here to see what the food post was about haha thank you for reading.

Hello everyone, I’m new to this page and would really need help.

I’m almost done my undergrad and I am really want to study Law. I am currently working my butts off to maintain a strong cgpa however I don’t know where to start in studying for the LSATs. Can anyone guide me as to where to begin?

Thank you.

Hi all,

I am currently drowning in papers because of all the fool proofing I've been doing. Once you finish fool proofing a section of games (i.e. all the "Introduction to Logic Games & Sequencing Games" logic games) do you throw them away? Do you keep them? What's the most efficient way to manage all this paper? I plan to return to the games I just fool proofed, once I'm done with the CC for Logic Games so I'll be returning to the ones I've already fool-proofed to make sure that what I've learned sticks.

I've heard of people keeping track of their scores/ timing per logic game on excel but that seems a little unnecessary to me and I am not the best at Excel.

I hope I made sense.

Thanks!

Hi,

I was wondering if "provided that" is a necessary or sufficient assumption indicator? (Please see below)

You will appreciate cultural differences "provided" that you reflect on your own civilization.

How about "contingent on", "assuming that", "as long as"?

Thanks

Maybe I'm the only one who didn't know this, or maybe it's an android only issue, but did you guys know that when you turn on the proctor app it stops the video recording? Either that or I really do forget to hit record that many times :joy: In all seriousness, this is not the issue because I tested it out.

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I tend to have music on in the background when I review. I've tried to keep my main jams going (K.Dot, J.Cole, Champagne Papi, etc.), but I just start jamming out, so I had to stop that. I now have Spotify's song radio playing off of an initial Debussy or Saint-Saëns number. So, I'm curious: what do y'all listen to when studying?

NYU announced today that starting with this academic year, all medical school students will attend tuition free. Not need based or merit-based ... Free!! Tuition last year was $56K but officials said it was discouraging people from attending or selecting certain specialties. Is there any chance that NYU will do this for their law school??