I have a 3.70 GPA, URM, good LOR's, and great "softs". However, when it comes to LSAT Day, I choke. 1st: 157 / 2nd: 158

I was wondering if you guys had any advice on what to do. (p.s.) Don't want to retake... Sunk a year into LSAT prep.

Given that I am also a Texas resident, do you think I should apply ED to UT, or not? I plan to apply as early as possible, but I'm not sure if that course of action will limit my chances.

Thanks!

Hey guys,

I am 23 and I would love to go to law school, however I take into that by the time I finish law school, article and take the bar I will be 27-28 years old. I am afraid that those 5 years of my life, I could have been working on other things or maybe starting my own business relating to marketing/social media.

How do you make a decision that can affect the prime years of your life (23-28) without feeling any regret or second guessing yourself ?

I have thought about it and my decision is to just take the LSAT, apply and see what my value is to potential law schools. However, I still always second guess myself and tell myself that i should be doing something else since law school will require a 4 year investment and at the very least 70,000 in student loan debt.

What do you guys think of those who have been in a similar predicament ?

I recently took my first PT after 4 months of intensive CCing and had an increase of 13 points. This took me by surprise since I was stupidly convinced that I wouldn't improve at all (props to J.Y. and the 7Sage community for all your help, btw). This said, while I'm stoked about my increase, I'm not yet quite where I want to be score-wise.

Here's the facts:

-- I have 3 months before I take the November LSAT

-- I wish to improve by 5 points at minimum, the ideal being a 9 point increase (perhaps this is reaching, but one can dream!)

My questions:

(1) Do you think a 5-9 point increase is possible within a 3 month time-span?

(2) What are some techniques that've allowed y'all to make your score gains?

All advice is appreciated!

Hi everyone!

Looking for some tips on my September 2018 LSAT!

I did the June 2018 exam after studying for around month and got a 159. The section grades that I got were -8 for RC, -8 LR, -3 LG, -9 LR.

I am a little unsure of how to proceed. I seem equally as abysmal in all the sections. The LR sections I ran out of time on for the last questions and rushed, and the RC time/reading errors. Are there any tips/study tricks to help? Should I just keep drilling? I am aiming for a 165+

Thanks!

I'm taking the September exam and really want to nail down LG since it's killing my scores. It can get as bad as -11, BR -0/-1. I foolproofed games 1-35 and I can get -0/-1 on almost all games that I do untimed but I can't seem to nail down consistency and timing. Since some games take longer than others I think I get panicked when I don't have set time benchmarks to refer to (I tried finishing the 1st in 5 min, the second in 7, the third in 8 and the last in 10ish but that gets way too confusing to keep track of) so I end of wasting a lot of time skipping around and setting up gameboards for each game but freaking out on the naked questions. Does anyone have any tips or a process they work through during a timed LG section? I am thinking of foolproofing again but I also want to be able to consistently scoring well on new material, I think I've memorized too much of the bundle to create good inference habits, but I might try it if I decide it can help.

I started studying for the LSAT in October 2017. It is currently August 2018. With the passing of ten months, I have realized that my goal of reaching law school is a marathon and not a sprint. Taking 3 weeks or 3 months to study may suit other learners but not me. And that is okay.

Sometimes I wonder if the support that my friends and family initially showed me in October has waned in strength; if the passing of time has caused them to question my abilities. This train of thought, however, does nothing to serve me. I recall that this journey belongs to me. I remind myself that this test requires the steadfast self-belief, patience, and effort that only I can draw from within myself.

Sometimes I get stressed at the thought of "sinking all of my eggs into one basket". That with each passing day, all of my efforts are geared towards something that is perhaps not guaranteed. I suddenly begin to visualize the bitter disappointment of not getting in and feel the ensuing burn of self-doubt. This train of thought, however, does nothing to serve me. I recall that the world owes me nothing. Acceptance into law school will not be served to me on a silver platter. I must be resilient and continue to work hard. There is no other option.

The November 2018 LSAT is 91 days away. I signed up for 7sage in March and have completed 65% of this course. Way back when, I scored a 147 on my first prep test. My current personal best is a159. I have learned an awful lot from 7sage yet there is still much room for growth.

To anyone who has doubts - keep learning and keep looking forward!

I can't seem to find the rhythm for the Logical Reasoning sections, I keep getting at least 10 wrong per section. I am taking the LSAT in less than a month, any recommendations?

Hey guys, so I just can't seem to gain mastery over LG, despite my trying and trying. The issue is timing, obviously given enough time, I can get most of them correct, but I just can't seem to do them at the 8-9 minutes allotted for each. Actually, doing a game in that amount of time seems pretty much impossible to me, unless it's one of the really easy ones.

If a game is simple enough where I can make tons of inferences on the game board, then I don't have too much trouble. I can just set up different game boards for different scenarios, and then answering questions are easy at that point. But this goes for everybody else, I assume.

It's when I set up a game board, and I can't make a lot of inferences from the conditions given because there are too many different scenarios. Then it just becomes a time sinkhole, where I try to brute force through the questions, but then time always catches up to me.

I don't know if I should just raise the white flag on LG at this point, and instead focus all my attention and time on LR and RC, as these aren't as much of a roadblock to me as LG is. Focus on my weakness, or try to strengthen those areas that I'm better at. Don't know what to do.

Hi all,

Hope all of your studying is going well. I finished the curriculum portion of the course about two weeks ago, and have taken six practice tests since then. While my first four showed a general progression toward a score I would be very happy with, the last two tests have been a 9-point and 11-point drop from my best score, which I made only days before. This leads me to a few questions.

If so I guess that eliminates the need to answer the rest of these, but two scores an average of 10 points lower seems strange to me.

I have read that this could be caused by burnout, but I am not feeling burned out and I'm eager to learn from my mistakes (I've had college classes that made me feel burned out and it doesn't feel anything like what I'm feeling right now). So is more rest the answer, or should I work it out through more PT's?

Any advice would be appreciated on here or through PM's.

Thank You

Hi all,

I’ve been registered for the September exam, but due to some life changes, studying has fallen by the wayside. Now that I’m resettled, I need some advice. Obviously I want to do well on the exam: I had an ok diagnostic a few months ago (151), and I have about 20-25 hours a week I can now fully dedicate to studying. Schools I am looking at see an average LSAT score of 155-160.

Is this enough time between now and September to get any kind of improvement?

Should I sit both September and November, or just cut my losses and change to November?

I want to apply as early as possible in order to maximize the aid and scholarships I get, which makes me want to take the September exam, but I worry about a low score. I’m very torn on what to do here.

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Hey everyone... how did everyone stay sane waiting for scores to come out ? And what about the aftermath ? Would love to hear your feedback

Wow, my plate is full. I am working 20 hours a week (Leaving full time for school next week) (Mon-Fri), President of my fraternity, getting married in January, taking 15 credits this semester for my Finance degree (I am a senior), oh, and I need to study for the LSAT as well. I took the test with minor prep in June and got a 151. I need a 157 for a full ride at the two schools I am looking at. My employer refuses to let me study at work, therefore all my school prep occupies weeknights. How am I supposed to find the time and dedication to the LSAT!? I am scheduled to take the test in Sep, but think I am going to change to November. My question is, is quitting my job a crazy decision? I have been here three years. I can only work up until May anyways due to me being a student in this student position (pays well, I work for DOJ). I have to make a tough cut, and this seems as the only option. Is it worth it? I will get a full ride if I get to the 156-157 range.

I don't feel so good about my diversity statement though I did make an effort. Everywhere i'm reading I see it's encouraged to write a diversity statement, especially for me since I'm of a different culture. I guess my question is can you still get in with just a personal statement or do most people make the effort to add to their application package even if it's not such a great diversity statement

No matter how many videos and notes I take I am still having trouble understanding when the necessary is being satisfied or failed and the same for sufficient. I understand what the rules are saying but I still am not understanding how to recognize the two when it comes to in/out games.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-9-section-3-game-2/

In reference to this game, in game board three we have In: K, N ,L and Q. I understood why L went in but for Q this is when I get lost. If K went in then I thought that the sufficient was being satisfied but if the sufficient is being satisfied then the necessary must be satisfied but that wasn't the case because Q became a floater which means that the necessary was satisfied. Can someone please clear up this confusion? I am not sure what I am missing or what isn't clicking.

I'm currently on this section of the CC right now. When I was watching JY diagram the game with the chart, I thought it was very useful/fast. However, I am still confused on when it is appropriate to use the chart. How do you know which grouping games to use it for?

I am scoring in the 150-155 range and really want to improve. Sometimes, I do great on the games and get 20 correct. Other times, I get only 13 correct. I don't have a lot of time to fool proof by September test, but which ones should be my MAIN priority to fool proof for now? What would help the most? Thank you!

When do you find the best time to study? Due to the early time of the September test, I am considering beginning to wake up around 5am to study rather than doing it when I get home from work (around 7pm). I find that at night I'm often pretty tired which affects my performance. Has anyone had good experience with this?

I've noticed the past few days it's impossible for me to sleep early. I can shower and throw myself into bed at 9pm but I just can't fall asleep. It's really frustrating to experience the whole "my eyes are shut but I'm still awake and I know I'm still awake because I can hear myself think" situation. I put my phone away and stay away from my computer before going to bed but still nothing! I know it's definitely the anxiety of the exam being a month away and I'm just wondering if anyone has tips on overcoming this?

I don't like melatonin because the times I've used it, I find myself groggy in the mornings and my brain just can't connect anything. It's becoming an issue because I'm trying to get myself into the habit of being up early and studying. I took a PT today and I found it hard to focus and my mind was just really foggy. Idk how to explain it but I just felt weird? Lol, as I'm BRing I'm looking at the questions and I'm telling myself "ok how did you not read that word... how did you not understand this? This is something you wouldn't miss if you were more alert".

Oh also, I was coping with jet lag last week. I was in Thailand and when I came back I was falling asleep at 6pm and waking up at 4am LOL. It was great but then I had one night where I stayed up until 11pm and that threw everything off. I'm not trying to get to this extreme but after I broke the 6pm mark I was sleeping at 9pm and waking up at 6am. This is what I'm trying to aim for but like I said, it's just become difficult to sleep at all.

I'd appreciate any suggestions! I'm trying to refrain from taking anything to force myself to sleep such as Advil Pm etc.. I really want to keep it natural. I've heard suggestions of drinking chamomile tea, has that worked for any of you? Thanks in advance :)

Pardon my panicking, but I'm a month away from the LSAT and decided to change my approach to RC, with major emphasis placed on structure as opposed to details. In doing so, I managed to get -12 (woah!) on the RC section in PrepTest 63. Has anybody experimented with RC and fallen into such a rut in the past? In particular, has anybody experimented with an emphasis on structure? If so, do you have any advice as how to adopt this approach (in other words, what should I be doing to inculcate such an approach into my strategy)? (If it is relevant, my inspiration came from Mike Kim's free RC video online.)

So I just wanted to start a survey regarding my thoughts on logic games. As we all know, although logic games can be really fun in the beginning they can certainly become very daunting and cumbersome under pressure and the stakes of an official exam. Who here would prefer to take LSAT with an extra LR or RC section instead? Who think he or she would score higher if LSAC were to take out the logic games section?

There are apparently some big changes in place for law school admission testing requirements. Interesting times ahead indeed. Let's stay focused and continue to study hard regardless of the test you decide to take for law school admission! http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/aba_legal_education_council_rule_change_end_admission_test_requirement

Hey guys. I’m hoping some of you LSAT masters can help with this question. I’ve been trying to wrap my brain around it for the past few days with no luck. I understand it is a correlation/ causation flaw, but I can’t seem to understand why D is the AC and E is wrong

Thanks :)

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Hello all,

I have been struggling the longest with discipling myself enough to have a stable schedule and now I am starting to find some consistency in my study schedule. Unfortunately, I do not know how often I should take prep test or if I should wait to take them until I have reach the end of all the lessons on the syllabus. I have completed my first prep test and I am currently finishing my blind review method. However, I do not want to do another prep test until I know which approach would be more effective in improving my score.

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PT 57 Spoiler below

I'm writing out an explanation for https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-2-question-20/ and I got to AC C where it's wrong for different reason, but I do see another assumption that I stated above. I wanted to know if this is alright for the LSAT.