Hey 7-Sagers! I'm applying to law schools and am hoping to land somewhere in the T-14. I have a 3.87 LSAC GPA and 163 LSAT score as a Hispanic URM (the LSAT has been a tough journey for me lol). I also feel like I have a strong PS/DS and resume. Although I'm below some of the T-14's medians, do I still have a shot at the T-14s? Should I wait until next cycle and try to bump that LSAT up? Thanks for any advice!

I'm considering applying next year but my teachers are already on their way sending the letters of recommendation to LSAC. So... would law schools dislike letters written the year before?

Hi! I'm trying to break a 170 for the November exam, but am currently stuck in the mid-160s. The November test will be my last chance at applying this cycle. I am currently a college senior and definitely planning on taking a year to work, whether I apply this cycle or next. What are the benefits of applying to law school this cycle and deferring for one year versus taking the LSAT at a later date (maybe January or later) and applying next cycle?

All,

Quick question about the test proctor available through the 7Sage app.

I have “real time” set to 33 mins but the app’s analog clock runs until from 0-35 mins. Is the clock sped up to make it “really” 33 mins or am I just taking a 35 min section?

Hi. I'm an international and I took the October test in Asia today.

Score cancellation was never an option, until this afternoon after I stepped out of the testing room feeling absolutely defeated.

I took my first LSAT in June after 3 months of study and got 161. From then on I drilled through most of the PTs except for the very recent ones (PT 80 onward), scoring in the range of 162-169. I felt better prepared and so decided to retake this month.

The exam was a lot more challenging than I expected, definitely so compared to the recent PTs I've been practicing with. I didn't make any Scantron mistakes, finished every section in time and bubbled in all the answers. But of course, having finished every section in time doesn't mean that I nailed each of them. I am pretty convinced that I bombed an LR section, for which I circled around 7 questions and had to take a wild guess on 2-3 of them. LG has always been my strong suit, but today I got stuck with a grouping question and had to guess 3 questions. As for RC, I don't feel so confident either - don't think I ruined it but I definitely could've done better.

My target score is 166+. It was my plan to apply this cycle, but I can wait a year and apply next cycle if I must.

I'm considering cancelling my score because I heard that law schools tend to view multiple scores negatively. I would wait for the results if it was my first go at LSAT, but seeing that this is my 2nd test I can't afford to take chances. Trying to gauge all the possibilities before I make a big decision.

So, here are some questions I wanted to ask:

Please excuse the poor writing. I would appreciate honest opinions.

Thanks.

As of now I am only on section Logical Reasoning section ( Flaw-Descriptive Weakening Questions). Three sections away from just starting the logical games section and my test date is on Nov 17. I studied using the LSAT Trainer for 3 months before but bought the full 7sage study package about 3 months ago and I feel like I should just end studying logical reasoning and start logical games because I’m running out of time and haven’t had much time to do practice test. Any advice because at this rate maybe if I study like crazy I’ll finish the program with maybe one practice test done before me test date. The problem was I lost motivation for about 2 weeks and never thought about how that would throw off my study schedule.

Hi everyone,

Is there anyone out there who primarily practiced with 4 section PTs, took the actual LSAT, and wished they had practiced with 5 sections? In other words, did taking the actual lsat throw anyone off due to it containing an extra section?

I know in the course J.Y. says something about 4 section tests being sufficient and that the adrenaline of test day will help you get through 5 sections. Can anyone confirm this through experience? Of course it will be different for each person. I don’t want to canabalize a fresh PT just to simulate 5 sections, but think it may be in my best interest. Maybe a half and half approach would be smart?

Hello!

I hope your studying is going well. I have taken 5 PTs post CC and have not been able to get my actual score up to my BR score. My actual score is usually in the low to mid 160s, but my BR is usually between 170 and 175. I am taking the November test and was wondering if you guys had any tips for getting the score closer.

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble with question 9. How can the answer "B?"

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Hi again everyone,

So according to the Law School Predictor tool on here, I have a 77% chance to one of my target schools, Texas Tech if I were to submit my app in October.

Stats: URM/GPA: 3.39/ LSAT: 144, 147, and recently 150 for the Sept. exam

I am also registered for the November exam, however I think realistically i'd only be able to raise my score another 2-3 points...shooting for 5 though :p

Should I just submit my application to this school already, or should I just take a gamble and wait/hope for a better score? I'm really concerned because my chances drop to 68% in December (when I assume scores come out and I'd submit my app) if I stay with the same score or possibly lower the score :o

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks a bunch!

My graduating GPA is on the lower side, and I don't believe it's representative of my ability to succeed in law school but wanted to see how others read my explanation in terms of whether it would make for a productive addendum or not.

I started undergrad as a dual degree student pursuing piano performance and financial math, with music being my primary focus. I had a severe injury (from bad posture and over-practicing) which resulted in eight months off piano entirely. As someone who had envisioned a career as a performer since around 11, it had consequences on my mental health --- not to mention I had a lot more time on my hands to think about what it was that I really wanted to pursue. This was all in the first two years of undergrad and my GPA was low and unstable during this time.

My third year, I switched to Sociology and Philosophy, and it proved to be a fitting switch. I maintained a 4.0 while taking graduate-level courses, writing an honors thesis, and working 3 research jobs on top of a full course load (5-6 upper level courses). I feel that my physical injury and "wrong major" story go hand in hand because the injury gave me a chance to switch into something that I was better at. Does a GPA addendum seem appropriate given these circumstances? I'm very wary about my addendum coming across as an excuse or an attempt to justify my sub par grades. Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

When should we look at the context of a stimulus when considering an answer choice. After CC, I was under the impression that we should always disregard context; however, a lot of correct answer choices take context into account. For example in PT 72 S2 Q4, the correct answer is A, and the subject matter of A falls within the context, so I immediately crossed that answer out.

Is there a particular rule to follow in regards to context and when to disregard?

Thanks in advance!

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-24/

I currently have a score on file (my score was a 168) - am wondering if I should go ahead and submit my apps or wait until the november test? hoping to break 170

Every 10 or so PTs I just get slapped with a 10 or even 15 points below average score. Seriously. Does this happen to anyone else? I don't even really know how it happens, maybe a confluences of bad circumstances, but all in all, it's an extremely curious experience.

This time, in particular, I think part of it was because of the stress. I had promised to record and show people a full 5 section PT, to both give them a different perspective and get feedback, and I think part of me felt pressured to do really well. I wanted to prove myself, because I've always had a -10 decrease from my PT average when taking the real LSAT, and felt like maybe I was a fraud. Because of this doubt, like a self-fulfilling prophecy, I had a restless night, and got sick.

And at last, I proved myself to be a fraud. It felt really uncomfortable to have this fear, and to have an experience confirm this fear. Even though my average score tells me otherwise, I can still honestly believe my fears have come true. I start to think that maybe my previous 5 or 10 tests were the outliers and that my real abilities are truly reflected solely in this one test. This is probably a form of cognitive dissonance, and it freaks me out. Since then, I've taken another PT, and it was at a formal setting, with other 7sagers. So I know it is a legit score, and my score immediately jumped back up to my previous average. Deep down, I am still confident in my capabilities and my ability to overcome this fear, but there's now a constant little feeling clawing at the back of my mind.

I honestly view this as a very revealing and positive experience, because I've realized perhaps my biggest weakness: severe performance anxiety. I now have a clear goal, and like Ray Dalio says, terrible is better than mediocre. Moving forward, I will be recording myself and showing it to others again. Hopefully it will help me get over this nagging thought in my mind. Thanks for reading.

Hi,

I am about 60% complete with the 7sage core curriculum. I signed up for the Ultimate+ option and have dozens of PTs available. However, I wanted some insights on the number of PTs I should be doing per week once I complete the curriculum? I will most likely be completed by first to second week of November. I will be sitting for the January LSAT. Thanks for your insights!

Ok so long story short, I took the LSAT last year and I ended up not being ready for it and took it either way. I ended up keeping my score and it really was not even close to what I'm actually aiming for. Other than the fact that I made a bad mistake in keeping the score (I should have just declined it) I am now stuck with it. I am taking the January 26th 2019 test, two applications (schools) on my list are due on February 1st and February 15th. Is there a way to notify the schools that although my application shows one LSAT score, there is a second one coming? I am afraid of getting outright denied admission because they only see one score (which is a very low score in comparison to what the school is looking for) because the second tests' score will be coming out after the schools deadline. Can they pause my application even though i already have one score on it to wait for the second one?????? Or do I have to wait until next year????

i feel like there's no way i can keep up the study pace i've been at for 5 more weeks until the test, but i don't want to backslide the progress i've made thus far.

tips for staying focused/motivated? useful drills to keep skills sharp?

Hi y'all,

Although I have temporarily stopped PTing and am fully committed to drilling games/passages for now, this occurred to me while sharpening my pencils earlier today: how many pencils do you use for each PT? Do you prepare at least 5 so that at the beginning of each section, you pull out a freshly sharpened pencil? Or do you use one for the first 2/3 sections? Since I notate relatively heavily on RC passages, I need a sharp tool at the beginning of each RC section but I would also like to know how others go about this.

:)

When you get that wonderful call from the Dean of one of your top choices offering you admission, do you send a thank you email? I really am appreciative and happy; but is there a protocol to these things?

Hello,

I recently found this site and what a great resource! I am struggling with writing two addendum's that I need for my applications. If anyone is willing to take a look and let me know your thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. The first situation is that I have a cumulative GPA of only 3.02 (my graduating GPA is a 3.23) and I need to write an explanation (or do I?).

As you will see or have already seen, my education has had a life-changing effect on my life. I was not always aware of the keys that an education would be able to give me. Prior to giving birth to my first child, at 18, and during my pregnancy, I was given the opportunity to take running start classes at a local community college. I did not do well in these classes, in fact, I did quite badly. At that time, I did not know the opportunity that I was being given and I did not appreciate it. After I began taking paralegal classes and working toward my Associate of Technical Arts degree in Paralegal Studies, I became aware of how much my education would play in my, and my families, future. I did well in my legal classes, both when completing my ATA and my BA. As you can also see, I have not been a student since 2011 and I have most definitely matured and grown as a person and student.

The second addendum that I need to write is regarding gaps in my education/employment.

There are two large gaps in my education and employment history. The first gap was after I graduated with my BA degree and I was pregnant with my youngest son. Due to my high-risk pregnancy, I was unable to take on a full-time position. I was unemployed until the Christmas season when I was hired as a seasonal sales associate at Macy’s until my son was born just prior to Christmas. After giving birth to my son, I was unemployed for eight months while I struggled to find employment in the legal field with my limited experience. I have only had one other gap in employment since I returned to work in 2012, which was when I left a position that was not a good fit for me and I was unemployed for 2 months before I found a new position.

I should add that the first addendum is not required, but the second is. Also, my LSAT score is 75% or higher for all the schools I am applying to.

Thanks in advance!

Anyone interested in critiquing or swapping with my PS? Any feedback would be appreciated. PM or comment below. Thank you!

Hey guys, I don't know why I'm making this thread. But I just bombed another logic game set, and wanted to remark how really tired and burned out I am from studying.

With the November test about a month and a week away, really feeling the drag now.

If those of you who's taking the November test feel the same, you have a company in me. Cheers! Haha.

Will it negatively affect anything in the admissions process to be a dual citizen (American and UK)? I've lived in America most of my life but was born in the UK and spent the first two years of my life there. My parents are American. I wouldn't have worried about it except my mom started saying it might affect financial aid somehow. Does anyone know about this?

I need to disclose it - one of my applications specifically asks.

I asked an admissions dean at the school, but the conversation wasn't the best. He was late for a meeting and thought at first I didn't even know if I was an American. I explained and asked if it would affect anything on the application and he said "no," but he was in such a hurry I ended up hanging up feeling embarrassed and worried.

Definitely overthinking this but any help would be appreciated!

Hi guys, so I'm writing the November Lsat and am just trying to really improve on my games by then. My average score over the last month is about 156, and I'd like to score anywhere from 158-161 (I've scored in this range on occurrence twice so it is not out of the realm of possibility). Good thing is i know my weak spots and how to get to there and its games, of course. On average i miss about 8 questions per section, getting as many as 12-13 wrong. Most Practice Tests i don't make it to the last game just because of time.

Any tips on how to get consistently to -3 or -4 by November? If i could get into this range, heck even 5 wrong I have no doubt i'll get my desired score. I'd like to start Fool Proofing but i really don't have time to do PT 1-35 as others have suggested. I'm in school full time at the moment and work part-time on the side. Are there maybe 10-12 sections you guys personally think i ought to master that will help me with my goal? Also, should i hold off on doing more practice tests until i get Games down? Any other advice would be appreciated too. Thanks in advance!

Hello! Apologies if this has already been asked before but I could only find this (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/12545) discussion and I was hoping for some clarification from someone else who's done this.

I had plans to apply last cycle, but I decided to wait a year. I informed my professors who wrote and submitted LORs that I'd be waiting a year and one even said he'd be happy to update the letter closer to when I apply (and I'm sure the 2nd will when I ask). I've heard it both ways about whether to reuse a year-old letter, but I'd rather not take any chances.

I was wondering what steps I need to take to get updated letters when I already have letters from said professors in my LSAC account? (aside from reaching back out to my profs, ofc) Do I need to delete the letters in my account and request them again from each professor? Is there anything I need to do differently this time? Is there anything I need to instruct my professors to do, or will the email from LSAC provide the same instructions as last time? Am I just overthinking things? :D

Thanks in advance!