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Sometimes in flaw questions, I realize that the flaw is an incorrect negation (e.g. a --> b, ~a-->~b), however the answer choice will not explicitly say "incorrect negation"

Is one regular way of describing the conditional flaw of "incorrect negation" that "the argument assumes that the only way to get to 'b' is 'a'" or "fails to see that a is not the only condition to get to 'b'?"

I'm trying to see if i properly understand PT 49 - s4 #23

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Hi everyone,

Just received an email that I was wait-listed by a school which I am willing to attend.

The school's full/first deposit deadline is April 16. Is there anything I should do before now and then to increase my chance of being admitted?

By the way, I already submitted a "why school X" essay with my application, so my LOCI will need to be something else.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi!

Do you know if people have successfully taken the June LSAT to get off waitlists? I'm waitlisted at a couple of my top-choice schools and I wonder if even a 1-2 point increase could be helpful in getting admitted. I would get my score in early July. I don't believe that LOCI would be very helpful in distinguishing people (everyone sends them all talking about how much they love school xyz...)so I'm stuck on how to increase my chances of getting off the waitlist.

But then again, I wonder if retaking is worth the shot because its a long ordeal and I'm not really confident on scoring higher.

Advice/inputs would be appreciated if you know people who got off the waitlist this way

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I applied super late in the cycle, almost a week away from deadlines because I decided to take the Feb LSAT. I applied to only 4 schools, not T-14 and I have only heard back from one school. They're asking for a $500 deposit on 4/20 and I'm not sure if I'll hear back from the other schools by then ... so I'm freaking out. I really don't want to lose $500 if I make the deposit and then am accepted to another school. But, what if I get rejected from the schools or put on WL, and didn't submit the deposit and end up having no where to attend this fall.

I'm currently waiting for USC, Loyola and UCI (all California schools). USC says my app is under review. Loyola just says my app is complete and I have no clue what UCI is doing.

I know I put myself in this position by submitting so late, but now my anxiety is super high. I guess my question is do you guys think I'll hear back from the other schools in ( 12 days?(/p)

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Not sure if this topic has been broached here before, but I was curious to get some opinions. How do you guys feel about the general trend of law schools accepting GRE scores in place of LSAT scores for admissions? None of the law schools for which I am applying have made that switch, but I wanted to know everyone's thoughts on it since we are all entrenched in learning how to beat the LSAT. The articles I read make it seem like law schools are hurting for applications, but that doesn't seem to be the case for those of us applying, right?

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Has anyone ever been on one and what should I expect? This is not to be confused with a Georgetown interview. I'm expecting a tour and maybe a class visit but honestly have no idea.

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Hey there!

So, I have a 3.78 GPA from my degree granting institution, but a 3.59 GPA overall due to my first year of school (3.11 GPA at a diff school). I am writing an addendum, as I experienced extreme harassment by faculty at my first educational institution, which drove me to leave/enabled me to leave with my first semester of sophomore year erased from my transcript as well as my tuition.

Year 1: 3.11 GPA

Year 2 (new institution, 1 semester): 3.67 GPA

Year 3: 3.82 GPA

Year 4: 3.80 GPA

I'm really hoping that this doesn't kill my ability to get into some good schools (UofM and NYU primarily). I know it means I'll want to get in their 75%+ LSAT percentile, but do you think that now these schools should be considered a reach for me?

Gah. I'm so upset that I didn't ask them to erase my freshman year too when I left, as I was extremely affected throughout that year too.

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Sunday, Apr 8, 2018

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Hi all,

I am having issues with my speed while going through Reading Comprehension with roughly 5 mins remaining typically going into the last passage. Does anyone have any tips or tricks that could be of use?

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Hey guys! I'm sure most of you, like me, get excited whenever JY says that a question is a curve breaker question and you happened to get it right. I know the question bank has questions organized by most difficult. But I was wondering if any of you have a few specific questions that have been deemed "curve breaker." I'm asking because I'd like to gather them all and hone in on them haha. These are the questions that stump even the highest scorers. I have horrible recollection of past specific preptests and which questions were hard but of course every test has them. So far I only have a couple specific ones in mind:

  • Rattlesnake; PT 30 S2
  • Joggers; PT 64 S1
  • If you know any specifics, please comment! :)

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    So I'm going -2 to -6 per section on LR.

    I am missing a wide range of questions it's not just a specific question type. Does anyone have some advice or what has helped them for prepping?

    I'm using all the time allotted.

    BR'ing to -1 or -2.

    What have you guys done to get LR down to -0?

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    Hey all,

    (heads up: many words in this remark, but thanks so much in advance for reading and taking the time to help! i really appreciate it and am very grateful for everyone's thoughtful advice/comments :] )

    I started LR usually around -14 total. After about 2 months of doing solely LR (I've also already spent 2 months doing LG), I've gotten LR down to around -8/-7 consistently (this score is after blind review. i usually correctly fix around 4 total Q's during BR, so prior to BR, my total LR misses would be like -11). After BR, my misses are about -4 on each LR sections (if I'm lucky I'll get a -3/-2).

    When I do LR sections timed, I try to have a skipping strategy but I end up leaving 1 or 2 Q's (that are hard and I skipped) blank when time ends.

    When I'm doing the LR section, I try to go 15 in 15 minutes, and then work from there. I can usually get 10 for 10 minutes, but then as I hit questions like #15-25, I find myself slowing down. I'll finish the section with like 4 minutes extra, but there will be 2-3 questions I completely skipped, and 3 circled questions that I was really unsure of. With those extra 4 minutes, I can usually finish only 1 or 2 of those questions I completely skipped, and then don't have enough time to check other questions I wasn't sure about. Sometimes I run out of time before I can get to 1 question I skipped.

    I've gone through CC. I've also read LSAT trainer and Powerscore LR bible, but I think CC was much better and more thorough.

    My LR misses have been pretty scattered, but I see that some of my weak spots are flaw, weaken, strengthen. With weaken/strengthen questions, I think one of my weaknesses is causation/correlation. I've missed a lot of these due to not realizing that a question is actually testing causation/correlation, and for failure to properly map out the causation/correlation logic and to think of the correct prephrases (X causes A and B, A causes B rather than B causes A, etc) when tackling these questions.

    I've already drilled all of the weaken, flaw, and strengthen Q's in PT's 20-30, but am still struggling with them to a certain extent as I'm doing PTs. Over the past 2 months, I've also already done all the LR sections from PT 29-40.

    I blind review after I do the section. As I stated earlier, the above misses (-8/-7) are my blind review scores. I've been getting -8/-7 on LR's for like the past 4 PT's I've taken -- even though I've been blind reviewing after each section and have drilled from PT's 20-30s.

    The way I blind review - As i do a LR section, I circle questions that I'm not 100% sure I got right. I usually circle around 8-10 Q's for BR. After time finishes, I go back to those circled questions and then try to re work them out again with no time limit. When I try to rework them again, I read the stimulus, identify conclusion and premise, and then try to identify the concrete reasons why 4 AC's are wrong and 1 AC is right. This is all happening in my head, so I potentially might not be as rigorous in doing this as I should be. For many of these circle questions, I end up changing the answer, and sometimes my new answer is right, and sometimes the new answer is wrong.

    My BR misses and misses in general are kind of all over the place. They can fall into several categories: 1) questions I'm completely spoofed where I'll change the answer like 2 times during BR and still get it wrong. 2) I was down to 2 AC's and picked the wrong one. 3) Silly mistake where I should've gotten it right - I just rushed too quickly and chose a wrong AC without clearly eliminating the rest of the AC's. 4) Overconfidence error - where I didn't circle the question in BR and chose the trap AC that 70% of other test takers chose as well (these are often the level 5 questions where there's a very attractive trap AC...an example is PT 40.1.23).

    In general, many of my misses are level 3-5 questions, with many of them being level 4/5.

    For questions I get wrong, I watch JY's video explanation and scroll through the comments for that question to see other ppl's explanation. I also go on Manhattan's LR forum and Powerscore's LR forum to look at other answer explanations/ways to look at the question.

    I'm kinda frustrated that I'm hitting this -8/-7 LR wall, especially after trying to work hard to improve it. I really want to try to get my LR score down to like -2 per section. I've been mostly focusing on my BR score because if my BR score is still -7, how can I get my timed score down to -2? Trying to go step by step -- and to first get my BR score as low as I can, and then work on ramping up speed.

    I'm starting to see the patterns/cookie cutters in the various LR sections, but I still get tripped/tricked by the harder questions, which is kinda frustrating. There are always like three or four level 5 questions in a LR section, and I often get a few of those wrong.

    I think moving forward, I really want to reexamine/redo/review all of the wrong LR questions I got and just try to redo them in my head, systematically break them down, etc. I think I've done around 25 PT's in total, mostly from PT's 20-40, so if it's an average of like 10 LR questions wrong per test, I'll be reviewing about 250 wrong LR questions these next few days.

    Any advice or suggestions moving forward to get my LR score down to like -2 per section?

    Also, out of curiosity, how long did it take you guys to get your LR section down to -1/-2?

    Thanks guys.

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    Good morning everyone, I have a little concern . I did update my iPhone and my iPad yesterday and since I cannot access the course material. I would like to know if anybody else is having the same problem.

    Thanks

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    Guys, I really need you to help me with advice/strategy/tips on how to move forward.

    I took September 2016 LSAT and did 154 on official which was right my average. My diagnostic was 142. I did get accepted to top 25 and got waitlisted and then dinged from Columbia in early August (yes, they dragged my ass for long time).

    Fast forward to current day, my average is 166. I hit 167 couple times. My breakown is -2LG, -5RC -10LR.

    My GPA is 4.07 and I really want to get into top school, thats why I am not giving up and kept working to improve. I am registered for June LSAT. I desperately need to hit that 170.

    Please guys, help a girl out here. I am not URM, one year out of college now.

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    Hello 7sage community! This is my first time posting here but I've been reading the forum for quite some time. I'm posting as I have a question from prep test 53 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-53-section-1-question-09/). I'm wondering why answer choice A is a necessary assumption. The answer choice is that the decline in population of nesting females is proportional to that of the larger population My thought is that this is not a necessary assumption as the argument's conclusion could still be valid if the general population was declining MORE than the nesting female population (which would mean the decline was not proportional). This also made me wonder whether a necessary assumption relates to the argument or conclusion. In other words, is an assumption necessary if its falsehood destroys the argument but still allows for the possibility of the truth of the conclusion? Thank you in advance for the help.

    NOTE: I edited this post because I was unaware that we could not directly quote the test. My apologies.

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    I've heard of different strategies on when to bubble in guesses for the questions you skipped and wanted to know which people tend to prefer doing. It also freaked me out after hearing about someone getting kicked out during testing because he was caught bubbling in guesses for a previous section.

  • Bubble in guesses at the 5 minute mark.
  • Bubble in guesses at the start of the next section.
  • Bubble in guesses after all 5 sections.
  • and the most preferred, but often unattainable method - solve all skipped questions in the time remaining.
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    Obviously deposit deadlines are coming up (one of mine is April 16) and while I understand there's still a few days left before that, I truly have not heard from any other schools other than one acceptance and one waitlist. I'm waiting on about 14 other schools and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I applied right at deadline but the deposit deadlines still don't change. If I don't hear back by a school's "known" deposit deadline, should I just assume I've been rejected?

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    Hello everybody, as law school approaches I get more and more worried about my possible success in school, and an article in Above The Law exacerbated those fears. The article said that, of surveyed Harvard Law students: "25% suffered from depression, 24.2% suffered from anxiety, 20.5% said they were at a heightened risk for suicide, 66% said that they experienced new mental health challenges during law school, 61.8 percent said they had frequent or intense imposter syndrome experiences at school, and 8.2 percent stated they had zero people they could open up to about their most private feelings without having to hold back." I can upload a link but I am not familiar with the forum rules regarding outside links.

    What are ways that a student can address these possible problems if they arose? And what are ways that we can help our fellow students who may suffer from any one of these?

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