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I've been offered one full ride from a school I'm less interested in and a couple of generous aid packages (appx $45k/year). But even with $45k per year, it is outrageously expensive. Another school is interviewing me for a full ride. I've informed the Admissions departments of the various offers already. Does anyone have specific advice on how to wring that last $13k or so per year out of them? Many thanks.

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Hey all,

After circling around the idea of law school for years, I finally settled on it last week. My cold diagnostic was 163, I'd like to be in the 170s by the time I test.

I'm also currently on a Fulbright and living in a very rural area of a developing country, so I have very inconsistent wifi and a lot of priorities that don't involve studying for this specific test (I'm teaching full time and organizing a national conference for youth here, please hit me up if you have suggestions for where I can find $12,000 to rent a venue and fly kids in from all over the country....). I don't want to ruin my grant year studying, but this is also the time it makes the most sense in my life to do it.

I suppose what I'm asking is two-fold-- one: do I take the LSAT in June (keeping in mind that I'd be flying to another country in order to take it then, so I do have to plan ahead, but my life from now to June is as not-busy as it's gonna get this year versus in September when I know I'll be swamped with conference stuff)? Two: do I take the LSAT (and thus apply) at all this year?

I'm willing to put 10-20 hours a week into studying, and much of that I can do from the teachers lounge (meaning: finding solid chunks of time to do full PTs is going to be my main struggle). I just don't want to ruin my grant year studying if I'm not going to be able to pull my score up 10 points, but I don't want to delay application if at all possible. I'm committed to improving on the LSAT, but I don't want to ruin my present with a narrow minded focus on the future.

For what it's worth, my cold diagnostic showed -6LR, -11LG, and -3RC. I know LG are supposedly the most learnable part of the test, and I've purchased the LG bible and am watching the videos and things are clicking a whole lot more (oh man, diagrams! That's how this is done!)

tl;dr: can I improve 10 points in time for the June exam if I'm studying 10-20hrs a week with limited internet access?

Thanks!

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Hey Everyone,

I'm new to 7Sage, (a friend who went to T14 law school referred me) and I'm wondering which course is most worth it for me. I started studying for the LSAT last July, and took the December test even though I knew I wouldn't score high... regret. I had first paid for an expensive online course called Blueprint cause it looked light and doable... it was close to useless. Recently since January I got the powerscore books, just finished and have seen a lot of improvement (though my attitude has also changed about the whole test as well, which may have helped quite a bit). So, since I'm not a beginner, is the Starter course not worth it? I already have all of the preptests, I just want to perfect my skills and get more tips, cause I need to get high 160s or 170s. I usually score high 150s or low 160s on my PTs. Also, I saw the starter course has tests 35-44 but I already did 3 of them... so what do you guys think and did the extra stuff in the other courses give you the extra boost or was the core curriculum enough?

I'm supporting myself right now, and quite low on funds, but if I'm sure that it will do the trick I'm willing to invest...

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So, I want to take the July 23rd LSAT which is in roughly 5 months. I would like to get a 170. Received a 155 on the December 2017 LSAT, and am waiting to see what my score on the February 2018 LSAT was.

Doing lots of PTs is a tip that I have heard consistently on how to get a higher score. However, the time I spend doing PTs (and then blind reviewing at least the LR section) is time away from the CC - as of 02/24/18, I am only on the MSS section of the LR section of the CC, so very, very early on.

I keep going back and forth on what would be more advantageous, and would appreciate some advice on whether I should:

  • continuing to do PTs between now and July 23rd, while making my way through CC

    • or

  • do CC first, then do PTs.

    • I believe option 1 will have me do more PTs between now and July 23rd.

    As an aside, I did a prep test the day before the February 2018 one and got a 141, which really makes me think that my 155 in December was just a stroke of luck. So I am interested in taking the path that will maximize my chances at a 170 (or as close a score to that as possible).

    To add to my "case," I have done the RC & LR Bibles, and have done maybe half the LG Bible.

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    June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 56 | Tuesday, Feb 27th | 7:30 pm EST

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    I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

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    For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

    Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

    These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

    The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

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    Hello 7sage club,

    I've noticed in my last three PT's a weird pattern. When I do my first LR, I'm stuck getting -8, but then I'll do a LG section or RC in between before I do my second LR section and on that section I'll get -5, which is the lowest I've gotten on LR so far. Especially when I do RC, then do LR, it feels like running with weights(when I do RC), then running without weights (when I get to LR again). It's both encouraging that I've gotten my first -5 but also I'm wondering if this is not just a random pattern, and I should do some RC-style reading before I take a PT. Wondering if there are others that do some sort of mental startup before they do PT's or if I'm slowly going insane trying to make sense of inconsistencies.

    Thanks,

    L

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    Hello everyone ,

    I am currently in Chicago and I am working as a teacher. However, I’ve discovered this may not be the route to allow me to make my best efforts for law school in studying for the LSAT. I’ve decided to quit because I am not happy. However, I’ve only been out of college for almost a year (graduated last spring ). I’m not sure what’s a good part time or even full time job for me to get that will allow me time to study . I’ve looked on indeed.com and other sites but it’s been so hard finding anything . If anyone has been down this road before or has any advice on what I can do to meet my financial requirements (basic bills such as phone, car note , and insurance) I would be so greatly. I know this is the right choice but if I can avoid stressing this entire time about money I know I can raise my score .

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    In my why school X essay, I have mentioned specific research topics for several professors because they are in a field that I am interested in pursuing. These are not topics that are mentioned in the school's website; I had to do some research to find them. I don't specifically mention their published papers in the essay, but I did get the information from reading their papers. Do I need to document those sources (the papers) in the essay? I searched the discussions but haven't seen anything on this. I don't want to look silly, but I certainly want to credit where I found the information to avoid any kind of plagiarism. Thoughts? Also, on another essay, I have stated specific statistics; do I need to document where I found those? If so, would a footnote work? Any help is much appreciated... Thanks!

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    I recently watched the "Post CC Strategies" webinar and something that he had mentioned as apart of the first phase of taking PTs is that we should be going back to the curriculum as we are studying our BR answers. I recently took a practice test, BRed, and now there are a handful of questions that I got wrong and need to review. I normally just watch the videos and review where I went wrong, and then move on to another PT. This isn't working for me, I want to dig deeper.

    My question is - how should I be reviewing the CC while I'm taking PTs? For example, I missed a Necessary Assumption Q. Should I go back through the entire NA lesson or just watch the broad lesson videos (before specific Q examples)? Or should I be drilling and while I'm drilling, what should I be looking for?

    Right now this concept seems super overwhelming so I'm wondering if anyone can share their strategy. Thanks!

    Also.. what is a cookie cutter review????

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    I am about to switch to bubbling in groups. After each RC Passage, LG Game, and before I turn the page for LR. For some reason this scares me. For those who have switched, did you have this initial irrational (or maybe rational) fear? Was there an initial step backwards before you saw the gains? Did you see gains? And if so how much time do you think this saves? I will go into the laboratory (aka my desk) to see how it suits me, but I would love some thoughts too.

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    The admission curriculum has been super helpful to me and has undoubtedly increased my chances of admission to many schools this cycle. I definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to perfect their applications. (A huge thank you to @"David.Busis" and his team). I have one suggestion that I think would make it even better-- a section on scholarship negotiations. What is the proper protocol regarding timing and how to frame your "argument" for more money? What are comparable schools that make it appropriate to use money from one school to ask for money from another? Who do we contact? What do we say (in other words, do we explain that we deserve the money or that we have gotten better offers elsewhere? At what point is reiterating your qualifications and contribution to the campus redundant from your application?) How much emphasis do we put on money being our decision making factor without sounding ungrateful for being admitted? I know technically the curriculum is focused on admissions, but I personally think scholarships play a huge part in the process.

    Just a thought! On that note...does anyone have any input on this? Definitely planning to ask at least one of my schools for money within the near future, but I do sort of feel like I'm shooting in the dark regarding how to do this.

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    I stumbled on this Twitter thread and found it super interesting, and then thought... hey, I wonder if that would help calm people's nerves before an LSAT? Obviously this is a random twitter thread and I'm no expert, but it's an interesting idea for the many folks that have test anxiety. Maybe it's wise to try splashing cold water on your face and holding your breath for 30 seconds? Science! It's neat.

    https://twitter.com/gaileyfrey/status/963842152303280129

    (Click on the tweet to see the whole thread for the info)

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    I can get through all the quizzes and exercises but I'm having a hard time knowing why or the meaning of things I'm doing. When I look at a SA question, instinctively it makes sense and just reading the question I can normally eliminate 2-3 wrong answers and narrow it down to 2 and if I re-read the Conclusion and Premises, I can pick the right answer. However, when I try to diagram it, it turns into a cluster fuck and I feel I just wasted a bunch of time. The last questions sets, thought, I can see why doing the diagram is important.

    I need to understand how to know if an Assumption Question is Sufficient or Necessary, but I still don't understand the "why" aspect if that makes sense. I just read what I'm supposed to get out of the statment and try to predict what kind of answer they are

    looking for after I read the argument then I just find what fits. I'm getting about 70% correct, but its the 30% that I know I can probably get a few more if I just understood the "why's" not just the "how". I just cant seem to get the logic to click.

    I'm not even sure that this question makes sense. I get the whole X------->Y J (some)A stuff, its the application I'm having problem with.

    Is anyone else having a conceptual problem?

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    Hi everyone, I took the February 2018 LSAT. My applications are ready, the only element that is missing is the LSAT score. I am still confused as to whether it is beneficial for me to send my application before the score is released. I know that in this case, law school will put applications on hold until the score arrives. however, once the score is out, how long does it take for the universities to start reviewing the applications? Would this affect the admission process?

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    I don’t get it. AC B looks to be necessary but not sufficient.

    A->(B-most->C)

    Therefore

    B(-some-)D

    AC B gives us C(-some-)D

    Which allows us to draw: B-most->C(-some-)D

    But we can’t conclude that any Bs are Ds from this conditional chain. That is an invalid argument.

    I got this question right but only because B came the closest (C/D/E don't even contain the new idea which is found in the conclusion and A was intuitively wrong). Maybe I am misunderstanding the logical relationships? JY didn't mention this issue and neither does the Manhattan forum.

    If we were to change the premise to C-most->B, then AC B would allow us to conclude B(-some-)D but I don't think that's the correct translation. The Manhattan forum agrees with me on this.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-4-question-22/

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    Hi all, hypothetical here. If you were planning to go into public interest, and you got a full ride to a T-6 (or Penn eg) vs HYS, would you take the full ride? How about if it were T-4 full ride vs HYS?

    Thanks for your thoughts! :)

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    @Sami I am following your BR process for Reading Comp passages. I have a question regarding that BR process for RCs. During BRing, do we read the Reading comp passage and then write the high resolution summary (HRS) while referring the passage at the same time. Like reading one para then writing its HRS , then reading the next para and writing down that para's HRS. Or is it reading the passage in one go then write the whole passage's HRS from memory, I find it difficult to retain the entire passage in my mind and then write its HRS ?Should i push myself to retain the entire passage details ?

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