On 7Sage and other blogs/podcasts, I have been hearing a ton of people getting nervous about the July test date due to the fact that it is non-disclosed AND a brand new "experimental" test date. It seems many people are fearful that this will somehow make the test slightly different or more challenging than the other test dates.

I beg everyone to please remember: THE LSAT AND LSAC ARE DESIGNED FOR UNIFORMITY. If LSAC were to put out an official test that was somehow different than any of the others, or is expected to possibly wield different results, then LSAC would be failing as an institution.

It is LSAC's primary job to be a reliable source for law schools vetting students. If law schools believe that the students they are vetting had taken incomparable tests, then that vetting process would be completely ruined.

Sincerely,

I'm Losing My Mind

Admin note: edited title (Sorry, no all caps!)

Hi, folks!

It's been a while. I was on vacation and took a much needed break from studying - now I'm trying to find the motivation to jump back in and attack my weak spots before June.

The 3 folks writing my letters of rec (2 academic, 1 professional), have asked to see my statements in June so that they have time to meet with me to discuss and then also write my letters. My current dream is to hit "submit" in September or, latest, October.. So, timing is important with all of this.

I have a Personal Statement, GPA Addendum and Diversity Statement. Would anyone be willing to read through any/all of them? If so, please let me know and I can send you the Google Doc link! I think they are in a good place, but want some eyes to read them who do not know me before I send them to those writing my letters of rec.

Thanks!

Hey everyone,

Can anyone offer insights on how to start prepping again after a somewhat long break? I sat in February and scored a couple of points below my average, but without a score breakdown I don't know where I went wrong. I haven't touched the test since then and now feel a bit lost as to how to start again. My hope is to sit again in October. My February score was only 4 points off my goal.

Has anyone had a similar experience? How did you approach things? What worked for you?

Hi, I live in Paris, and when I try to extend my account, it says "7sage not available in France", could someone help me with this please?

One that, "appeals to a premise one would accept only if one already accepted the truth of the conclusion." I know there is a circularity in it, but can someone give an example, in non-abstract lsat language for me? That would be amazing lol thanks!!!!!!!

Hey guys I was just going over some notes from the RC webinar that fellow 7sager @"nicole.hopkins" did. In the notes was reference to a webinar that @DumbHollywoodActor and @"Quick Silver" did for RC and I was told it is very helpful. I wasn't able to locate it "if it still is around" but if anyone could guide me in the direction of it that would be awesome! Please let me know if anyone knows what I'm talking about. Thanks guys!

Real quick context. I started studying in December, I was gonna take LSAT in June, then November. Now I've decided I'm just going to take it in 2019, so I can get a full year and more to really get the score I want which is 170+.

So realistically, just wanna know from you guys what my chances of T14 are.

I'm an under represented minority (Cuban exile). Undergrad GPA is 3.56. I'm currently getting MFA at University of Michigan, that GPA will be 3.9 (I know they don't care about that too much). I have a lot of work experience since I worked full time during college as an EMT and various other jobs to pay for school, while doing school full time, so resume should be decent.

So if I do get my target score, 170. What are my chances at T14, realistically?

I know my GPA falls in the 25th Percentile, which is why I'm wondering if I gotta hit the median LSAT or the school's 75th percentile LSAT to really have a chance.

I know to you who are PTing in the 170's this may seem laughable, but I was started at -11 in LR under timed conditions, and I feel like this is a huge step forward. I didn't think the nerves would get to me though to be honest (I just did this at home) but I felt almost as anxious as I would have if I had been taking the real thing, so I think once I get those nerves under better control I certainly think I can improve even more. What do y'all think? Any experiences like this?

I am currently PT'ing around 161-162 and BR'ing 172-174. I'm aiming for 165+ on the June test.

by section I'm missing:

LR: 8-10 total

LG:3-4

RC:8-12

I know the fundamentals. Worked with an excellent tutor for RC. I seem to be choosing the attractor choice over the correct answer in LR and running out of time in LG. RC is about the best its going to get.

My questions are:

Where should I go from here?

Any strategies I could play around with to speed up?

Hey guys I was just going over some notes from the RC Question type webinar and mentioned in it was a "RC Annotations" webinar that fellow 7sager @"nicole.hopkins" did. I wasn't able to locate it "if it still is around" but if anyone could guide me in the direction of it that would be awesome! Please let me know if anyone knows what I'm talking about. Thanks guys!

Hello. I am interested in taking the LSAT for the third time. For my first time, I did self study. My second time, I had a private tutor, and the for the third time, I would like to know how 7sage would work. I would like to take the November LSAT, so I have about six months. What do you recommend, and what is the course work like? Also, how much study time should be allotted each week for LSAT study? Thanks

Hey all,

I've been going through lots of RC passages lately and I'm noticing that I do significantly worse on passages that discuss my field of study. I tend to get absorbed in the details and miss a lot of the big picture questions. I usually go about -1 on most passages but on these passages I perform wayyy worse. Anyone else have similar experiences, or any suggestions?

I've heard that I may be better served using PowerScore Bible for RC than I would 7sage, is this true? Anyone have any experience with both? I'm not saying that what I have heard is true, and I'm certainly not looking to instigate any bias-related arguments, just looking for candor and a way to maximize my efficiency in terms of studying with regards to time-management and available resources. Thank you!

I applied pretty late in this year's cycle - end of March for Vanderbilt and WUSTL, beginning of May for University of Georgia, and I was planning to apply for UT Knoxville a bit later. I was waiting to get my 170 on the LSAT, which I finally did in February, and then for letters of recommendation, personal statement, etc. Anyway, that's all my own fault I know. :)

I got waitlisted at WUSTL, which was a bummer but not devastating. Last night, though, I found out I was waitlisted at University of GA, which I was not expecting, given that my LSAT is 8 points above their median. It's made me worried that I just simply waited too long and there are no spots left for me.

I'm okay with waiting another year if I have to (I'm already in my early 30s, so I have a full-time job and won't be scrambling for something to fill that year), and the thought of trying the LSAT a bit more and maybe improving is really tempting. I'm just not sure what the rules are for the materials I submitted in my application. Do I need to re-write all my essays and get new letters of recommendation? Can I re-use anything? I'd love to re-use the essays since I bought 7Sage consulting for them, but not if it is a faux pas!

I'm looking at the question stimulus and one of the wrong answers and wondering if these two mean exactly the same thing:

"Not all skilled artists are famous"

"Some skilled artists are not famous"

And if so.. could someone kindly explain the logic behind it?

Here are my thoughts so far:

I understand that Not all ranges from (0-99)

and that Some (1-100) but since it is Some..not (subtracting from 100 range, (100-100), (100-1) --> (0,99)?)

so.. number wise.. they seem to indicate the exact same range?

(sigh) I know it was for the best because I'm still struggling and still learning. It just sucks that I miss yet another test. I mean, come on, brain, work already.

Rant over.

After taking a total hiatus after withdrawing from the October test and then canceling the December test... I didn't know if I'd ever be back here. I just moved across the country to start a new job, so a lot is up in the air right now. Since I haven't been studying, I've been enjoying the extra free time more than ever, but a little voice in my head is telling me that I need to stop being lazy.

Any tips on getting back into it? Hoping the long break won't be too hard to bounce back from.

http://dailybruin.com/2018/05/16/ucla-school-of-law-to-accept-gre-scores-starting-in-2019/

Does anyone see any value in me purchasing and starting to plug through the LSAT trainer for the June test (approx. 4 weeks)? I've only ever used 7sage and while I love it and have already increased ~17 points (increased 14 for Feb), I'm wondering if I should do any additional materials to milk every last minute up until the test.

For context, I work full-time (about 50 hours a week) so my studying is about 3 hours per work day (usually 1 or 2 sections w/BR and review and random lessons / videos depending on what I'm struggling with) and about 8-9 hours on Saturday / Sunday, with the weekend including a PT, BR, and review. I took the Feb LSAT and did fine but not completely happy so giving it another shot.

Was just wondering if I should stick to grinding it out with PTs and timed sections or if anyone thought adding a new element might help.

Thanks in advance!

When it asks you how many letters you are asking from a specific individual, are they asking for the amount equal to the number of schools you are applying to or just one that I can send to multiple schools? Thanks!

Hey all,

I know for many question stems, especially flaw Q's, the answer choices begins with "takes for granted."

For these type of answer choices, can we apply the negation test and see if it destroys the argument? The question type is not a strict "Necessary Assumption" question, but the answer choices are phrased as "Takes for granted"/assumptions, so can we treat them as similar to how we treat a necessary assumption answer choice -- and negate them?

Thanks.

Hey 7Sagers!

I was wondering if someone who already had practice simulating test-day conditions/completing a p-test could provide some input.

If you take the test in a public place like a library, do you use headphones to listen to the proctor app? (I don't want to disturb other ppl in the library, but I also feel like wearing headphones won't be representative of the test day environment).

Any advice/comments about your own experience would be very much appreciated!

What is considered early? What is considered in the middle? And what's considered late? I used to think applying in Sept or Oct was vital, but how much of a difference is there when you apply after only 10% of the applications are in vs. 40-50%. I'm wondering because if I turned in my apps before my Nov 17 LSAT test date came out, meaning my file would be complete mid-Dec, would that still be an advantageous time to apply?

As I'm figuring out which schools to apply to and checking LSN I figured I should find out if I am considered a URM? If not, it might soften the sting of a HYS rejection :) btw.. I'm Tongan (born in America but spoke the language growing up, involved in the Tongan community in California, visit family in Tonga regularly, etc)

Hi all,

I recently jumped from doing PTs in the 40s to PTs in the 70s in preparation of the June exam. What I've noticed is that the LR sections in the 70s seem to contain a lot more 'odd-ball' argument forms. Because I've never encountered these argument forms before, it seems the only way I can get these correct is through P.O.E., and this is too unreliable for my tastes. Has anyone compiled a list of these argument forms?

I'll offer a few examples to illustrate what I'm talking about. Potential Spoilers below for PTs in the 70s

PT76 S2 Q13 - This MBT question has no inferences to be made, the correct AC is just a restatement of the stimulus. Weird!

PT76 S2 Q18 - This is a NA question in an argument-by-analogy form.. again.. really weird!

PT76 S2 Q22 - Really bizarre SA question that uses a 'tautology' argument form.

PT76 S2 Q24 - Another NA question with a weird "A-->absurd" argument form.

That's 4 really bizarre question in a single section! Am I crazy for thinking that 70s LR is really quite different from LR in the 40s?

Any help for these weird argument forms would be so dearly appreciated, lol.