Hey 7Sage community,

I fluctuate between -5 to -12 on RC with little consistency, which really grinds my gears given how much I've tried to improve RC. I've honed in my notation, worked on parsing difficult argument structures in previous RC passages and even in my extracurricular reading, and avoid referencing the passage under timed conditions unless a question specifies a line or word. Can't say it's the science passages that get me specifically, since I usually find them to be the most straight-forward. I'd chalk up my RC pitfalls to two things: (1) I always run out of time -- I'm usually hitting the 30 minute mark when I'm about to start the 4th passage; (2) I find "Most Strongly Supported" questions are the ones that invariably give me the most trouble.

Bearing in mind these two issues, does anyone have any tips and tricks that have helped them improve their RC performance?

Hey everyone! I’ll just get right to it. I took the LSAT Dec 17 (159), Feb 18 (156) and Sep 18 (157). The first time my score came back lower I was crushed but I figured that it was bad luck and I could bounce back. Signed up for 7Sage after that, did the CC, did fresh PTs and I was consistently scoring between 161-165 on my PTs in the weeks leading up to this LSAT. When my score came back, I kind of broke down. I wish I could chalk it up to test anxiety but I don’t normally suffer from it. I have no clue what to do. Would a 4th attempt look bad? Should I even bother to attempt again? I would really appreciate your thoughts.

I'm registered for the November 2018 LSAT and as of now the earliest date I can postpone to is January 2019.. I'm going to apply next cycle so I'm thinking about the September 2019 date. It doesn't look like this option is available yet. I already emailed LSAC about this but anyone know what their reply would be?

Thank in advance.

So, I recently came across a concept some of you are probably familiar with known as "hindsight bias." For our purposes, it probably translates to seeing a question you got wrong and then immediately discounting it thinking it was just a simple mistake that you won't repeat? I am trying my best to have a healthy relationship with it which I believe boils down to simply being honest, after all there's no gain when I am not, especially when I am doing drills or PT'S. Can anyone else relate?

Hi everyone,

I want a rough idea for how long it took some of you guys to complete the core curriculum; logic games section / Reading Comp and practice testing?

Also, Is there anything I can do to improve my focus? Sometimes I do one logic game and feel like I need a break....I want to be mentally stronger so I can sit there and get through more of the CC faster.

Any feedback is appreciated! Thanks everyone in advance.

I scored ~6 points below my PT average so I will retake in November for sure, but right now I have no idea how to get prepared.

I got 156 in Sept. (RC -12; LR-11/-9; LG -1), but I was consistently scoring between 161-163 for the last 10 timed PTs. My average performance for each section is at -6 for LR, -0.4 for LG and -10.9 for RC. With that being said, I am aiming for 166 in Nov...is it possible?

RC is always my weakest section, and I feel I actually made no improvements since cold diagnosis ;-(. Can anyone give me some recommendations for extra reading materials? Reading for scale helped me a little bit, but I am still having trouble with science passages cuz I usually got lost with those professional terminologies.

At this point I don't know if I still need to focus on LG as improving from -1 to -0 probably results in no score increases anyways? And I am considering redo CC for LR but this seems to be a huge amount of work...is it worth the effort to redo CC? Or is there any good supplements for LR?

Any inputs are appreciated!

For those of you who mastered logic games, how long did it take you? I’m considering retaking in November, but I don't know if that's enough time to go from -8 to 0 in LG

Hey all,

I'll keep this short and sweet. I joined 7sage at a point when my PT scores were stalled and I felt very discouraged, like I couldn't make anymore improvements.

After working through the CC, lots of time spent reading through the forums, and writing literally every PT, I got my score back today: a 173.

This is totally life changing, I didn't think it could ever happen. I want to thank JY for becoming the voice inside my head for the last few months and for the care and dedication he put into his invaluable lessons and explanations. Also a huge thank you to the rest of the community for their periodic support and advice.

Seriously, this place is amazing. Thank you. I would (and will) highly recommend this site to anyone considering taking the LSAT.

Hi all,

I got my September mark back and am just so mad at myself. I completely choked after seeing the first RC passage. I stubbornly went through the section in order, completely running out of time and didn’t even get to read the last passage (this has NEVER happened on any of my 20+ PTs). I freaked out at the fact that I choked on the first section and did not get out of that horrible headspace until the 3rd section.

Despite all the choking and the freaking out, I decided well, I paid the money, might as well see what I got wrong. (Also egotistical me was saying ah you may have done ok despite messing up 2 sections)

Aaaaand here we are with the exact same score that I received in June.

I guess that means even when I choked, I still improved somewhat considering despite choking I still got the same as June.

I’m just super down in the dumps and trying to decide between

Any tips? Suggestions? Life wisdom to share?

Thanks for reading this far! :) this group is honestly the best

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I submitted 3 applications yesterday. 2 of them went "complete" on the LSAC page. 1 of them gave me the above alert this morning? However, there is no "detailed information" concerning what the problem is. I'll call LSAC Monday morning, but has anyone else run into this issue?

As an aside, of course it has to be my reach school that I'm having this problem with. Grrrrr.

I just got my scores back from the September lsat and scored eight points below my average PTs. Could this be a fluke? I did have trouble bubbling in my answers on time. Does anyone know if we can request a copy our of exam with the scantron sheet?

Also, I am applying to law school for the Fall of 2018. Would it be too late to apply in November? Do I still have a shot at getting into schools?

My life feels kinda empty and meaningless... I started this whole LSAT life consuming obsession over a year ago and now I have nothing to do but wait for responses. Does this mean I have to re-enter normal life?

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If there is no PDF to review for a particular section on the lsac website for the Sept test, does that mean that was the experimental section?

Hi Guys!

Ive have been a member of the 7Sage community since December. I have been to BR sessions, Webinars, and have done the classes. I got my September score. Using the 7Sage Predictor, I atleast have a decent chance of getting into one of the schools I wanted. 11% for my dream school but hell Ill take what I can get and apply.

I started from a ghastly diagnostic score of 136! and most forums talked about how you can only get up to 10 points. I call BS on that because I am one of the outliers that proved those forums wrong. Albeit Im not the golden-180-unicorn, my point increase is more than 10. So for those worrying about their diagnostic score, take it with a grain of salt. I think as long as you work hard and actually push yourself to improve it is possible to get a decent score. Live and Breathe LSAT (for now). If becoming a badass lawyer is your dream, it will take courage and perseverance to get there. By the words of Mr. Specter, "I believe in work, I dont **** with luck". I still have a long way ahead, but 7Sage videos and the community made the LSAT bearable.

I was wondering what other people feel about their scores? This community has kept my sanity intact, and I want to give back.

What do you guys feel about your September 2018 score? Was it what you expected? What will be your action plan from here on out? Applications, Retake, etc.

Vent or Celebrate down below

Hi!

Looking to hear from those out there (if any?) who don't keep track of their own time (i.e., a watch) while PTing/when you've written the exam? Why do/have you chosen to do so?

I would never use a watch during PTs and it worked fine, but for some odd reason (maybe because I was wearing one? --___- I decided to use my watch during the September exam. Think it knocked the hustle/flow I'm used to and trying to assess if I should stick to just not using it or, switch to using a watch during PTs to become more familiar with it).

Question: is it normal to be missing a couple of questions on each of the comparative and context identification quizzes? Also, when do I move on from the grammar? I feel like I grasp the concepts, but I'm still getting, especially the harder, questions wrong.

Hey 7 Sagers!

I'm not a good test taker - at all. I've consistently scored mid to high160s on my PTs. But when test days rolls around, I am unable to achieve my full potential for whatever reason. For the 4th time, today I found out I scored below a 160. So I now find myself at a crossroad.

I have a 158 on record as my highest score. This is a score that will get me into the schools I am looking at, but I am unsure about how much scholarship money I will receive for this score. I know I am capable of scoring over a 160, but I'm wary of taking the LSAT for a 5th time, especially if I only would gain a few more points.

Should I just go ahead and plow forward with my 158? Should I apply with my 158 and retake, and notify law schools if I have an increase in score? Or, should I start buckling down and go for my 5th attempt and submit applications assuming that score would be my highest?

I've been studying for almost a year now, and am becoming very frustrated with this test. It feels absolutely insane to have taken it so many times. Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!!!

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you all!

I have a 3.9 GPA and took the September LSAT. I knew I wasn’t ready because I had only had about 2.5 months to study but I had a lot of people pressuring me to take it and I thought I could convince myself it would be fine.

After studying with 7sage for about two months, I was hitting the mid to low 160s. I just got my score this morning, and got a 152. I am completely devastated and do not know what to do. I feel because my score is so low that law schools won’t even look at me now.

It has always been my dream to go to Harvard because of family legacy and also because I know I can do it with my grades and extracurriculars, but mostly because I want to help the most people possible with law and feel that a compelling education is a key part of that.

I am seeking 7sager’s advice about what to do. I think at this point I should not take the November exam and take a lot more time studying for this exam that I hugely underestimated. I don’t know if I should take another year off because my applications are already going to be late and I regret very much not cancelling my score. I don’t know what to do and am open to any suggestions or resources you have.

is there a CC lesson on LG rule substitution Q's? i think JY mentioned it in one of his LG explanation videos.

thanks.

Hi there. I live in Asia. But as it turns out, I'm travelling to the US in November and I was wondering whether I can take the November LSAT there, even though I'm not a citizen or a resident. I'm guessing it shouldn't matter? Anyone know anything about this?

Hi all,

I got my Sept LSAT score back today and got a 153 (bummer) and am mulling over what to do - if anyone had any advice that would be greatly appreciated!

Here are the circumstances:

SOS :)

How important is the LSAT score in getting a scholarship? I'm an international student and from a poor family. I must get a full scholarship and it's the only way I can afford going to law school. I took the LSAT once and got 175. Is it enough? Should I take it again and try to get a better score or should I work on application essays and other things? Which schools give out more full scholarships to international students? Thank you for your advice!

Hey all!

JK on the title, there are just going to be some difficult decisions to make in the coming months. This post is mainly me just decompressing after receiving my LSAT score and asking for input from others on my current situation, as I don't like to just sit and think to myself at times like these.

So like many people, I got my score back today and was kind of disappointed with the result. My last three PT's averaged like 162.7 and I got a 159 on the actual test. The main school I was highly considering was the University of Utah and their median LSAT is 158. My GPA is 3.92, so I'm not really worried about being accepted, but the issue is that I don't think I will receive much in the way of scholarship money. Utah changed their residency policy so now if you are classified as an out of state student (which I would be) you have to pay out of state tuition all 3 years (base is around $38,000, they are still figuring what the final number will be). I am pretty debt averse, so being over 100k in debt after school sounds like a bad financial decision. My "safety" school (I use quotations because I would enjoy living in the area because I love the mountains and am not really going into law for the money) is the University of Montana. Their median LSAT is 154 and I would be paying significantly less in tuition. I plan on going into environmental law, and Utah has a top 10 EL program, while Montana does not.

For some reason I seem to have a weird ego thing where I would be less excited about going to a school ranked where Montana is ranked (although I could probably accomplish the goals I have there). As for taking the test again in November, I seem to have no motivation to go through prepping and actually taking the test again. I am just trying to make the decision whether to apply with my current score and get into Montana and most likely Utah (but without scholarship money), or to apply to Montana in October with the 159 and then retake in November to see if I could get a better score for more scholarship money at Utah.

So a few questions for everyone: How highly do you consider school (and program) rank when comparing schools if you would enjoy living in both states and would plan to stay in those states to practice law? Given the information in this post, would you recommend applying to both schools in October with the score I have or to apply to Montana in October and then retake in November and apply to Utah in December?

A lot of this post might be me getting my thoughts and feelings off my chest, but I feel that is the best way for me to rationalize the score I got since I tend to be way too hard on myself when it comes to things like this. Thanks in advance for any insight!

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I had planned to apply to law school during this cycle, but things in my life have changed. The new circumstances already had me leaning toward waiting to apply next year, and getting my LSAT score today basically confirmed that waiting is the right choice. I have already requested LORs, and one professor has already completed the letter. Now I will not need the letters until next year. Is there a specific protocol for how to address this with them? Can I just send an email or should I meet with them in person?

After getting my September LSAT score, I'm pretty disappointed. I first took it in June without much preparation, and got a 151. After studying the entire summer, my PT has been around 160. However, my September score was almost the same as my score in June. I plan on taking the November LSAT, and I would really appreciate if you guys could please give me some studying advice. Thank you!