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I was going through PT 47 and wanted some clarification on phrases.

Section 1 Q23 of PT47 uses the phrase "accompanied by" and this indicates positive correlation.

However, in section 3 of the same test Q19 uses the phrase "associated with" and this indicates causation. Links below for the two questions.

For most phrases I find it easy to determine if it is causation or correlation, but this seemed really arbitrary. Are there other similar phrases you have found to be confusing or can someone provide insight?

Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-3-question-19/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-23/

I will be taking a mock LSAT though my university this coming Saturday (2/24). I have taken one PT before but being in a simulated test room for the first time may make it feel different. Do any of you have suggestions/recommendations for preparing for it whether it's bringing certain things or a good luck breakfast?

Hi all,

I'm struggling with the translation of "cannot."

In an In/Out game if A & B "cannot" be together, then:

In a Grouping game, if A & B "cannot" be together, then:

I was thinking about going to an ASD for a school that is a short drive from me, and I was just invited to another school's Alumni Reception which is apps and drinks at a local restaurant. I'm wondering if it would be beneficial for networking and getting more familiar with the admissions process. I'm nervous for the possibility of having to interview for some law schools next cycle so maybe this would make me a lil more comfortable.

Or is it just a waste of time as it will take away from LSAT studying

I was wondering what I should expect during the interview for Harvard in terms of questions. I interviewed for UVA and it lasted about 30-45 minutes. They said it should be around 15 minutes for Harvard. does anybody have experience or ideas?

Hi Everyone,

I'm working my way through the PT, and wanted to get some input on a question regarding doing 2 weekly PT's, as my schedule suggests.

I currently work full time, so the only realistic timeline I have for doing PT's is the weekend, during the middle of the week I'm too mentally drained to do a full PT.

Originally I thought I would just do a PT on Saturday, then a PT on Sunday - and BR both of them during the week. The value to that being, while there might not be much improvement from PT to PT on any given weekend at least I'll have more data on where I'm weakest and have enough time to work though a BR. The downside being I'm not sure how much time this will leave for additional drills on areas I'm weak in.

The other thought I had was to do one PT over a weekend, BR it the rest of the weekend/early in the week and then drill areas I'm weak on until the next weekend and repeat.

Has anyone been in a similar situation, would love to hear some feedback on which strategy would most likely be more effective.

Has anyone else noticed a difference in these two phrases?

I was working on PT 47 and "accompanied by" seems to indicate correlation while "associated with" seems to be causation. Is this a recurring thing, or am I misinterpreting these questions?

Thanks for any help!

S1 Q23

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-23/

S3 Q

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-3-question-19/

I can't believe I'm writing this, but I became THAT applicant. I accidentally submitted my rough draft for my Why Columbia essay, instead of the final. I just sent it in over the weekend, and they replied today that they were adding it to my file....so I decided to re-read it.

I cannot explain the sinking feeling in my stomach after realising that my submitted copy had a ton of red underlines and comments in the columns. Thank goodness I'm this type A and double checked....but I'm kicking myself for making this mistake in the first place.

I called and they kinda laughed at me...probably because I sounded crazy and said they would update it with the final copy haha. But a part of me is still very anxious that I somewhat hurt my chances.

BLEH.

PS swap anyone?

Title says it all. I'm very curious to know!

It's been a long year of endless studying for the lsat for me, as for all of us here at 7Sage. I have taken the test an amount of times, that most of you would consider to be too many times. I'm not influenced by how many times people can or don't take the test, if anything in my [personal opinion]... It shows schools that you're persistent. However, like I said that's just me. Given today's economic shifts, employment of this generation, and academic trends; it's hard to ignore the signs that we often neglect to recognize.

If anyone else is into the whole socioeconomic trends, not by just a degree in B.S., but by simply observing the world's trends... then I'm sure you can see what I'm talking about. Recently Glassdoor released a list of the 50 most in demand jobs, based on a few different factors. All of those 50 were in these catagories: Analysists, Engineering, and Marketing. Upon reading about these occupations, I realized that all of them paid at least 75,000 as their average base. They range up past the 100k as well. What I found strange was the fact the businesses wanted people with skills/past experiences, or two years of internships. I have none of that. Not to mention, like many of us... math & science are totally not our areas of expertise. I haven't done math or science since high school, let alone major or work in the field with these two, very complex fields of occupation.

Economically, in the world we have noticed that education used to be the way out in order to achieve success later on in ones life. Now, education is the way in... to debt. I'm sure a lot of us can acknowledge how expensive a college education is, especially if we are not given the opportunity to have it readily available, financially. The United States largest debt, is now student debt. We have to work our whole lives to repay what we did in school to get us the jobs (most are not even satisfied with). We don't get to even think about retirement due to this overwhelming growth in loans. It's sad. These jobs listed above seem to want those whom have a good understanding of those fields, not a M.A. or J.D, etc. It makes sense if students decide to go into a high paying job after school, without having to be buried in debt. So, for many of us noticing that unless we truly want to be apart of the law, versus just going to Law school for a high paying/ powered job... the script is now flipped. Unfortunately. I know too many people who initially went to Law school for a better financially stable future, and are now disappointed that it didn't play out in the way they had thought it would.

Thus, I do think for many who either just love school or learning, or those who really know that law school is all they have ever wanted... stay with it!!

As for me, I intend on going to Law school. However, I was recently admitted to a Graduate program with a fully paid tuition. For me, thats two extra years of a dept free education. I'd be remiss if I didn't take it, for it is both economically sound & I believe will give me more time to build a strong resume, allowing me to go for my J.D with a master's degree behind me as well. Also, I hope to get the Teachers Assistanship as well, for it will show my abilities to teach, and have a solid foundation of interpersonal communication. I do know this will help for applications when it comes time for law school, seeing those things on my resume.

I will continue with 7sage, because they have been here for me since day one. I'll probably be on here for another two years, and many will find me annoying after awhile.

I just figure that with all the discussions of Law School Apps, I'd post this in case anyone is in a similar predicament/ freaking out about a future in continuing education.

Being realistic about the world has shown me that my plans for the new few years, is not as realistic for the rest of my life.

What the heck. Why is (nearly) everyone at Columbia getting wait listed, even when they have 170+ LSAT scores and a 3.6+ GPA's? I get YP, and an increased applicant pool etc etc...but this seems excessive.

Thoughts?

Hi, all!

I switched to Ultimate + (7Sage got me, I realized I had to take the plunge to be able to really deep dive into the reviewing of PT's). I'm planning on taking the July '18 test date and think it seems feasible that I could work my score up to my goal by that date even though I work full-time.

Any suggestions on pacing of PTs/which PT to start on? It seems that nearly everyone has to take the LSAT twice (at least, the friends of mine all have), so I'm wondering if it makes sense to start further back and not aim to take up to the most recent LSAT before the July sitting? Ideally, I'll do July, get the score I want, and be done. So, I'm also wondering if I should instead set a minimum number of PTs I want to take and then work backwards from there (I'm thinking 35... The curriculum is saying to do nearly PTs 3X a week so that I come out at 48 PTs at the end of all of this and that seems too aggressive if I also want to ensure I'm doing quality blind review)?

Thoughts on this? I could start with PT 47 this week and do at least 2 PTs a week up until the exam date, which seems more feasible. This way I reach PT 82+ on time.

I'll also be doing PTs starting now, while still wrapping up the LG (then rc) portion of the CC. I'm decently solid in rc and can get to -0 or -1 in blind review of LG, so I think I want to start now to have as much time as possible getting used to the length of the test. Further, the actual PTs and blind review help me build more confidence and challenge me to push through mental blocks (aka, when I get a score I'm not super happy with) more consistently, which I think could be good for me.

Does this sound like a good strategy?

I havent applied to schools yet and I want to apply for Aug 2018. justttt want the results to be out. I cant wait to apply after that and see how many points did i increase after bringing 7sage to my life.

Hi everyone! This is my first post on here :)

I was wondering at which point in the syllabus y'all recommend incorporating the foolproof method...when we start doing full-length PTs, or earlier, at some point during the core curriculum?

Logic Games are currently my greatest challenge so I want to take the best approach from the get-go.

Thank you!

Hi all,

Wondering what your thoughts are on sending a preemptive LOCI. I was rejected from my first choice school (which I applied to ED 2).

Does it make sense to send my second choice school a LOCI or LOCI-like statement stating that I would accept immediately if I were accepted there, prior to hearing back any decision from them re: acceptance/ waitlist/ rejection?

I took a course in December (Success Prep) it was horrible and a waste of money. I then got a tutor and it didn't really help me much. I walked in the test Feb 2018 and freaked out, I completed the test but I guessed pretty much the whole test. (Mind you I took practice test before so I have no idea why I panicked it wasn't like it was my first time seeing the test in a timed setting) so here's where I need advice! I don't know if I should take off another year of school. I feel like if I take my test in June there is a slim chance the schools will have any seats open for Fall 2018, plus I won't get any scholarship money and if I get accepted to a school in another state that gives me no time to pack up and leave especially if the school doesn't tell me I got accepted into late July. so do you guys think its best to sit out another year and then apply for Fall 2019? or just take the June and hope for the best for Fall 2018?

So after taking the december LSAT and underscoring. I have resolved to get my PT average from 172 to 175+ my sectional scores for the 2 most recent tests i have taken have been:

PT53/ LR -1 LR -2 LG -0 RC -6

J07/ LR -2 LR - 2 LG -1 RC -6

Clearly the only thing holding me back from a 175- is my RC

I am really struggling for a way to work on my weakness in RC. LR and LG are so rote and systematic in the way that we approuch improving. However RC is a completely different animal. I dont really have a sectional strategy apart from reading for structure and keeping my eyes on the MP. I am a slow reader so i spend around 4 minutes on the passage and 3.5 to 4.5 on the questions. Any advice from slower readers like myself would be much appreciated

For Lr Questions such as this in which the conclusion has a conditional statement.

Admin edit: do not post the actual LSAT question here.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-09/

I invariably get them right but its because of my intuition and not because of how i know how to solve them. Can someone tell me How do you approach this?

Does anyone have any tips for writing an awesome personal statement?

Hey guys, This is my first message but I thought it would be best to get it out there in the forum. I recently got approved for testing accommodations for the June LSAT which entails 50% additional test time on all multiple choice sections and a 15 minute break after sections 1,2,4,5 and a 30 minute break after section 3. I was wondering your guys opinions on PT's and how I should be doing them with these accommodations. I assume I should take the PT's under these conditions but also am considering "normal" or "a little more time than normal" to give myself plenty of time at the end of each section just in case. Please let me know how you feel is the best way for me to prepare under these conditions. Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to hearing from you guys.

Hi everyone,

I am gathering some infamous LGs to practice before the make up test which will happen this Saturday.

Base on my own PTs and recommendations I saw in the past, so far I have the following:

Is there any other game(s) you guys would recommend?

Thanks.

What is generally recommended as the best prep for being a 1L?

Should we be resting as much as we can to save energy for the marathon? Should we be reading certain materials in preparation? Is there a benefit to getting any of the books early and familiarizing ourselves with the content?

Assuming you have free time, how would you set yourself up for success as a 1L?

-L