Hey guys, it's me again. I found that the 7sage discussion forum is just super helpful for a self-starter like me, so I figure I will make good use of it to shed more lights on some of my doubts about law school admission.

I have a 3.63 UGPA from a top-ranking state flagship; I am well aware that 3.63 is by no means a decent UGPA for the T14, but I also have multiple majors as an undergraduate student: I have 4 majors and 1 minor in the field of social sciences that are well-known to be the typical "prelaw" majors, such as criminology. I have taken over 240 credits in 5 years (twice as much as the graduation requirement), and I have to point out that the only reason that stopped me from being a summa cum laude student is that I suffered major depression in my freshman and sophomore year (Yes, I will explain this in my PS by intergrating it into a appealing personal story). I took about 15-18 credits per semester with a 2.6- 2.8 GPA in the first two college years, but I managed to schedule over 30 credits per semester in the last three years. Starting my junior year, none of my semester GPA ever went below 3.86 and I was on dean's list all the time. Clearly, everyone will notice such radical improvement and the upsising trend when they look at my undergraduate transcript.

After graduated from college, I attend graduate school at a top 5 college, which is a very very prestigous institution in the field of social science. However, my graduate GPA was embrassingly low at a 3.49. The college itself is well-known for it's grade deflation (well maybe you guys could tell which one it is... lol), and I have to admit that I never spend any time studying or doing my job as a graduate student. In this case, I have no one else to blame but myself...

I currrently have one SSCI paper under review (co-author), but I don't know if I should spend more time revising and improving it if I were going to law school. I don't know if this would be a valuable asset that the admissions consider. After all, studying for the LSAT is already time-consuming, and my hope is that I can crack the June test at 168+ (my initial score from the cold diag test was 162, so I think this should be a good shot for me) but in order to do that I have to study very hard. Is it really worth it to spend time on the SSCI at this point?

I am applying for the Fall 2019 cycle. For me, it's either T14 or nothing. I do have confidence that I could get into either Georgetown or Cornell (a 168 LSAT might do), but I don't know if I should give T6 a try. My plan is that if I failed to get into T6, I could transfer to T3 at the end of 1L.

Now that I have told you everything you need to know about my law school admission. Long story short, I will sum my questions here as follow:

1) Do law schools really give more consideration to students with multiple majors like me, despite that their UGPA might not be as high as the other candidates? I know that law schools are number whores - but should I give T6 a shot?

2) Does an escalating UGPA trend look more favorable to the admission? Will it, at least to an extent, compensate for a low cumulative UGPA?

3) Will my graduate GPA jeopardize my chances of being accepted? I know that the law school admission "claim" that they don't give consideration to GGPA, but I don't find this comment too plausible. I mean, a good GGPA never INCREASE your chance of being accepted, but it is likely that a bad GGPA will HURT your chance...

4) Does publication look good on my law school resume? I've asked a few people and they all told different stories. I am getting more and more confused about this. Should I spend more time to work on my paper?

5) Is it possible that I got accepted into Harvard (MyLSN tells me that I have zero chance with Yale and Stanford) with a super impressive PS and a ~173 LSAT?

6) This is a seemingly non-sense and stupid question but I guess I will still add it to my list: does being an Asian female makes me URM? My guess is no, but I just want to make sure.

Thank you all for your advices!

Disclaimer: It doesn't matter if you are applying to a top law school or not and everyone opinion matter.

I had some free time yesterday so i had a conversation with a recent graduate from the school i am interested in going to for my law studies (UMiami) and she expressed to me that she and a few of her friends were having a hard time finding jobs or landing interviews (sports and entertainment law, corporate law etc) and they are all in the top 10% of their class.After the conversation i went onto BLS.gov to see what the job market for lawyers looked like and its a little discouraging to see that its only going to grow about 8% in the next few years. So i wanted to get everyone opinion on the whole "after law school" topic. maybe you all can even shed some light on this topic as i am a career changer and i would love to learn more about everyone plans as far as what you're planing on studying in law school and the job market on that particular filed.

Okay, here’s the thing: I scored 162 (-18) on the June 2007 LSAT two weeks ago (a decent score for cold diag, isn’t it?), and I wasn’t even trying that hard. I got a -8 on RC, -7 on LR, and -3 on LG within the imposed time limit. I have never taken a LSAT and knew absolutely nothing about it before.

In fact, after taking the official cold diag test, I figured that LSAT is not as hard as everyone has been telling me. I came to believe that I can aim at a 175 in June and crack Harvard with my 3.63 UGPA and my fabulous PS (Yes, I have a compelling story to tell, and literally ALL the sample PS that I read were not as good as mine).

So after watching a few tutorials on 7sage, I aimed straight at the “most difficult LG/RC/LR sections ever” rated by students last week. Well, I was devastated, and I realized that I have definitely overestimated my intelligence and underestimated the difficulty of the test. The worst record was that I got -12 on RC, -8 on one LR section alone, and it took me over 30 minutes to figure out the dinosaur game. I always find standardized tests easy (I am not a native speaker of English but I got 163 on GRE verbal without studying AT ALL), but not this time.

I have not taken many PTs by now because I went straight from the cold diag to the most difficult sections in LSAT history, and I have no idea about the average difficulty of the tests in recent years. Passages such as Eileen Gray is daunting, but I know it is considered to be one of the most difficult RC passages that ever to appear.

So, may I ask if anyone who scored around 160 on the cold diag test ever felt the same as I did? Is the cold diag test really easier than most of the PTs?

I guess I would have to know this before making proper adjustments to my study plan. Thank you for your comments in advance.

Can someone please rip apart AC (E) and explain why claiming that older children who slept with night lights as infants and still suffer from nearsightedness does not weaken the conclusion?

Is it bc AC(E) says "several" and several isn't a significant claim bc it could mean 4 or 5 out of 100 which could be chocked up to being outliers?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-53-section-1-question-08/

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Hi everyone,

When we ask recommenders to write recommendation letter, is there anything specific we should remind them to include?

In other words, is there anything law school admission must see in a recommendation letter?

P.S. I am out of school for 7 years already, so one letter will be from my manager (who is also a part time college professor), and the other letter will be from a attorney/mentor I work with (who is also an alumni for my dream school).

Thanks!

I was expelled from high school for getting into a physical altercation - it was in self defense and there were racial elements involved. I think this can be an interesting personal statement that shows growth; I am also thinking about getting into some of the psychological aspects of this event. However, this specific situation may be a rare one for the people reading personal statements in admissions, so I don't have a lot to reference it's appropriateness off of. I don't know what type of impression this will give off. I think I can pull it off, but I am unsure due to its novelty.

I'm changing careers after 22 years and trying to cram all of this in hoping to knock this June LSAT out of the park and get accepted for Fall 2018. Just wondering if anyone else out there is in the same situation.

So basically, I'm registered to take the June 2018 LSAT and I've been studying for a little over a year now. I'm just now realizing that if I can just go -0 to -3 in LG, It will bring my PT trends to my goal score of 170+ I have been taking 1-3 practice tests a week until I realized this a few days ago.

Since today is Feb 15th, I was thinking, how does It sound if starting today, I only drill logic games until March 11th (3 months away from the June test) then continue with my weekly PTs, targeting problem areas and LR and RC stuff, everything. Or should I be honing in on all three sections –– instead of just LG –– during this PT hiatus?

Helo 7sage friends,

I just wrote a gpa addendum and need help with proofreading. English is not my first language. I can't afford making basic mistakes in my apps, so please can someone just check it for grammar and composition?

I promise it's very short!

? thank you!

Does anyone know how law schools/California bar association, look upon a case of you suing someone for a hit and run? Don't recall details, is it important to report? And does anyone know if this will effect future bar exam?

Back in May after I did my diagnostic, I had a bit of a panic attack. It was well below what I expected and I genuinlly did not think I was going to be going to law school. My GPA was competitive average which meant my LSAT would have to be average at best to get into the school I wanted to. That meant a 20 point increase. Today I got accepted into that school. A stanger I was buying preptests off of recomended 7Sage to me and I am grateful I listened to his advice. I will be passing it on, recommending 7Sage to everyone I know writing the LSAT in the the future! Thanks 7Sage!

I took the December LSAT and underperformed (and new it) and also took the February LSAT and feel like I did much better. For some of the schools I'm applying to, my Dec. score is at or just below the median, but for many of the schools my expected Feb. score is above their medians. Should I wait until I receive my Feb. score before sending in an application? Will LSAC/CAS include my February score once it is reported if I apply today? I'm struggling because everybody tells me earlier is always better, but there is such a disparity between my low-160s Dec. score and expected high 160s Feb. score, I want to make sure the significantly better score is included in any application I complete. Any advice would be much appreciated.

One of the applications asks me to provide a secondary school where I received my diploma. Are they asking for --- literally, the elementary or middle school that I attended? There's a place on the app for graduate school so I assume not that?

Hello 7sage club!

I'm wondering if there are any success stories out there about LR and what that person did to overcome their weaknesses. Currently, I keep getting 8-10 questions wrong on the LR section. I've taken at least 10 PT's, I've done the 7sage core curriculum, and I do the sections timed. I don't find that time is an issue at all, on the contrary, I'll have 6 minutes or so to spare. So I'm just looking to see if there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm planning to take the September LSAT so I still got quite a bit of time.

Thanks!

probably a stupid question - but on the LSAC LOR form, are the "phone number" and "Prefix" fields important?

I ask because I already sent the emails through the system but I didn't fill out the prefex (Dr.) or the phone number fields before sending. It's not letting me edit and resend, only delete and create new

Does this matter or is it totally inconsequential? Does a recommendation look suspect if it doesn't have a contact phone number?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Sat for the Feb 10 LSAT last weekend... and not feeling too great about my performance. I think I scored the same or maybe a point or two lower than my previous attempt. I have been considering cancelling my score (deadline to cancel is tomorrow).

My post-game analysis:

Section 1: Real LG — These games were unusual and it really messed my head up... guessed on ALOT

Section 2: LR1 — Felt that this section of LR was easier than normal but it took me a while to get into the flow after basically panicking during section 1 games... ended up guessing on four questions

Section 3: Exp LG — These games were so much easier and more traditional... on test day I felt a bit of relief and thought that perhaps my first section of LG was the experimental, but after checking the forums, I was greatly disappointed these didn't count

Section 4: RC — Thought the RC section was on par with recent tests.. certainly not as difficult as Candor though... was short on time for the last passage but gave it my best answering questions

Section 5: LR2 — Felt this section of LR to be way more challenging. The stimuli were a bit harder to grasp... guessed on the last four or so.

Overall, I feel less confident about this attempt than my previous. I'm just not sure what to do... the last thing I want to do is post a score a few points lower than my previous attempt, but I also don't want to cancel would might have been better score... what do you guys think? Anyone else facing a similar situation?

Side discussion, how do you guys deal with test-day anxiety? I've been meditating and all of that but still freak on test day! :(

Hi everyone,

My Feb LSAT got postponed to Feb 24. This will be my third attempt and my current highest score is a 150.

I am not trying to get into a T10 school. My dream school is Loyola Chicago, which currently ranks #82. And I am also considering DePaul and John Marshall Law School which are at even lower ranks. In other words, I will be happy if I got accepted into any law school in the City of Chicago which offer a part time program.

With that being said, should I still apply for Fall 2018 admission after I received the Feb LSAT score?

Thanks!

I have to say I was skeptical about the fool proofing piece of the process but it really does work! Just wanted to send along some encouragement to anyone struggling with LG. Hang in there!

It seems my course page is frozen, I can not use the collapse function to access to next part. Help needed! Thx!

I know that you can save $100 when you buy an additional Admissions Unlimited x1, but do you have to buy them at the same time? I know I'd like to get one, but I'm not sure if I'd like to purchase a second. If I wait, will I lose the chance to get the $100 discount?

Greetings fellow LSAT enthusiasts! I have decided to learn each question type one at a time. This way, I feel I can master one fully, then proceed to master the next one.

Is anyone aware of any listing of LSAT questions according to type.

IE: Necessary Assumptions questions:

Test 14 Sec 2 # 13, 15, 20.

Test 15 Sec 2 # 6, 16, 23

Test 15 Sec 3 #, 3, 12, 18, 24

Premise: G –m→ F

Conclusion: C ←s→ G

This is a question from 7Sage course.

It is asking to find sufficient assumption and the correct answer is F-->C.

I totally agree with the answer, however, was wondering F--m-->C can also be the correct answer.

Hey,

My university and pre-law advisor is asking me to put together a list of the resources I used to do well on the exam and for the process of applying. The list is geared toward underserved communities. I know that other people probably used different programs (Blueprint, TestMaster, 7sage).

I was wondering if you guys know of any 'secret' resources that you've used. For example, I know there is an NYC nonprofit that offers consultation to low-income applicants for free. Anything would help.

Thanks.

JK