Hypothetically speaking, what happens if you break a binding early decision acceptance? I know ethically it's not a good idea but are there any actual repercussions? (Besides a guilty conscience)

I took the september LSAT and got a low score so decided to retake in december.

I went ahead and sent apps to a few schools including one early decision (binding) because I thought with my low LSAT score I would need the advantage of submitting early. I also thought these schools would wait to make their decision until after my december score was released but surprisingly enough the early decision school accepted me one week after I submitted my application with just my september score.

I just got my December score back and did way better than I expected. I know with my new score I now have the possiblity to apply to much higher ranked schools.

So what should I do now?

Do I have to attend this coming fall because I was already accepted?

Or can I still submit new applications even though that breaks the binding early decision?

Should I just wait until next cycle to apply to different law schools?

If I defer and apply to different schools next cycle, is it still binding?

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

Is anyone else having trouble accessing applications? I keep getting a session error when I click on an active application.

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yup, I made a bubbling error and just now realized it. I thought I was just really ass at this test, and although that is true, I misbubbled an entire RC passage and more than half of the wrong answers I got wrong in 1 of the LRs. I know this because I explicitly remember the answers I chose, and I started searching for more bubbling errors after I looked at that T Rex question and remembered I chose what is the right answer (after reading it like 5 times lol) but my answer sheet says otherwise.

was not going to do another retake but I think I may do feb. UGH

I work full time. I've been studying for a long time now, but I've only taken 5 practice tests. I realized halfway through pTing that there were some basics that I had not mastered.

I want to take in February. I want to take a lot more practice tests but I work full time and it's simply not realistic for me to take them during the week. So I guess the only way to take as many as possible is to do two full, timed tests per weekend. If I do this, I can squeeze in 12 tests as opposed to 6 before the real test date.

I am just curious as to whether anyone here has done that. Two per weekend sounds fine to me, but I am afraid that two in a row will be too much? But maybe I'm being crazy. I know some people do one per day, so two per weekend shouldn't be too much.

Firstly THANK YOU JY for your incredible LG explanatory videos, that's what finally helped me crack the game section after almost eight months of studying! Got my December score on Friday, 173!!!!! (up from 158) Thank you 7sagers for everything!

Now my question: In practice tests three weeks prior to the actual exam I scored higher than 173 about 8 times. I definiely want to start school in the fall, so I am applying now. If I get wiatlisted on T-14 schools, will sending in a higher February score help me or nah? I would take it again, but not for nothing.

Thanks guys!

Situation.....

A certain law school has three levels of merit scholarships based on GPA/LSAT

Level 3- 5000, Level 2-8000, Level 1-12000

If you get accepted at a level 3 because of a low lsat and submit a seat deposit, would most law schools bind you to that amount? or could you retake the lsat and with a higher score and get a higher level scholarship, even though you have paid a seat deposit?

Thoughts?

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Hello everyone,

I got my test scores back from December and got a 169 (up from a 165 in September) which is pretty close to my PT average of a 171. I'll be applying to most of the T-14 minus Yale and was wondering if it'd be worth it to retake in February? Just for reference, my GPA is a 3.93 which will go up to a 3.96 once LSAC receives my Fall semester grades. What do you think?

Thank you!

Hi 7sagers!

I'm back for some of your never-ending help. I'm based in Dallas, TX and will be writing my first LSAT in June 2018, I've read that the testing locations fill up rather quickly - specially the "best" ones - so I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction.

The closest testing centers to me are the Bill J Priest Center for Economic Development, and the Collin County Higher Education Center in McKinney. I'd like your input on either or both of these locations if you've tested in them, what are your thoughts? What's my best option? My aim is to register by the end of the week.

Thanks again!

Hey guys! Had a 7Sager email in with a question that I thought you guys could help out with. Note that any iterations of "you" are referencing J.Y.

I have a question for you regarding reading comprehension, specifically the comparison passages.

I noticed that in several older videos/tests with the comparison passages, you read both passages first and then went straight to the questions. In the newer tests though, I saw that you did one comparison passage first, then went to the questions and answered them or eliminated answer choices, and then read the second passage and returned to the questions afterwards. When I do this second approach of reading one passage, going to the questions, and then reading the second passage VERSUS reading both passages before the questions, I end up spending more time on the questions.

Would it be wiser for me to stick to reading both passages first and then heading over to the questions, OR should I retrain myself to the method that you have been doing in newer tests of reading one passage and then going to the questions before reading the second passage?

Also, I'm curious what your view is on marking/notating the passages while reading the passage. Your videos focus on the memory method. For me personally, I have to underline and circle words in order to stay focused and engaged with the reading. I've seen different methods regarding notating such as the Powerscore book and Nicole Hopkins' methods of Reading Comp. From your experience, do most of the high test takers whom you have worked with heavily mark the passage or not as they read?

Thanks!

I've gotten a few questions, so I figured I'd make a second post because I know I really benefitted from reading other people's study method. I went from a diagnostic of 153 to a score of 173 in Dec (-3 RC, -2 LR, -2 LR, -2LG). I do want to point out that I got very, very lucky on test day. I had never scored above a 171 in practice, but was BRing at 179-180 consistently for the month before the exam. Sometimes you luck out with a test that plays to your strengths, and mine just happened to actually count!

I went through the core curriculum for about two months and then Fool Proofed LG. If you don't know what that is, check out this post: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1

Once I had fool proofed (took over a month), I started drilling and PTing. My schedule was:

Monday: 1 LR and LG section

Tuesday: 1 LR and RC section

Wednesday: 1 full PT/blind review

Thursday: 1 LR and RC section

Friday: 1 LR and LG section

Saturday: 1 full PT/blind review

I used all of PTs 40-52 for these section drills. I started out doing each section untimed, underlining the keywords in LR with a highlighter and writing a line # for where I had pinpointed the answer for RC. I would take 15+ minutes on each RC passage at first, and 45+ on LR. I figured it was better to get the basics and concepts down to a science before I moved on to timed. Eventually, I started timing my sections. Probably around October. Honestly, I wasn't learning anything from LG at this point, just keeping my mind sharp.

In November, I realized I needed to really focus on Flaw/NA questions. So instead of doing full LR sections (plus I was running out), I started using the 7sage question bank to drill. I'd do some timed, some untimed depending on how "hard" the question set was. Also in Nov, I started writing "explanations" for the questions I got wrong in my drills. I'd save these in a word doc but didn't really look at them again. But I learn by teaching, so I'd write out an explanation as to why a choice was correct and why all four others were wrong and then post it on the video explanation here on 7sage. I think this is when I consistently started scoring 169-170.

I found that I was able to go from -7ish a section on RC down to -2ish. I mostly did this through allowing myself to find the answer in the text. It's there. I would read the passage and make sure I understood it (started out by writing a summary for each paragraph, but found that to be too time consuming on timed sections). And then just go through the questions and make sure I could draw each answer to the text. For the untimed, I would write the paragraph line.

For PTs, I was worried I would need to retake so I was nervous about tearing through them all. So I started with PT 55 and did every three. So 55... 58... 61... 64, etc. Until I got to the 70s and started over. I jumped around a little bit to make sure I did 79 (the dreaded virus game) and 81 right before the Dec. test. All in all I did ~15 PTs.

**Edit: I also totally forgot that I worked through the Bibles in October lmao. I'd do a chapter of LR, LG, or RC a day. LR was helpful because at this point, I had gone through the CC in June so it was a good refresher. LG was a waste; I had already FP'd so I had already seen most of the games they used. RC was mostly useless too. However, I found it was good to focus just on RC but I didn't highlight/underline like they suggest. Overall, I used the Bibles for refreshers and test-taking strategies. Did LG or RC help? Eh. But the LR was good because it explained question types in a bit of a different way, so between the Bible and 7sage, I had a deep understanding of them.

I did all of this as a full time student taking 16 credit hours and working 10hrs at my part time job. Luckily, I had planned my course load and work schedule around the LSAT so I didn't start classes until 2pm on Monday/Wednesday and 11am on Tuesday/Thursday. This meant I was on campus at 8am every day, either to drill or take a PT. No tutors or any of that, but I relied on the 7sage forum and r/lsat to keep my mind in the "lsat" mode even when not feeling motivated.

I do believe that most people can raise their score with a good schedule that they stick to. How much, I can't say. But my schedule was very much let's-see-what-works and I just kinda went with it. I think you have to find what works for you; I drew from a lot of other people's tips and tricks. I hope this helps someone out there. Again, I got incredibly lucky on the exam (which is why I'm not retaking lmao) but maybe hopefully you wont have to rely on luck on your take!

After realizing that I've been following a poor study plan, I now think I need to go back to fundamentals. As a side point, I am also going to fool proof games 1-35 while returning to cc because I have a bad habit of focusing on one area and neglecting others. I was wondering how others go about reviewing the cc for a second go. Chronologically, or by jumping around? Do you also do all of the drills within the lessons over again?

I got a 149 and have 3.63 gpa and my top school is Rutgers. I have 1 year paralegal experience, great recommendations and should have a good personal statement as well. I am only aiming for 5 points more. My best section is RC but I am only able to finish 3 passages and for logic games- linear and not too complex grouping is good for me but LR even though I get most of the concepts, I feel as though I am slow and so any tips on speed? OR SHOULD I JUST APPLY AND HOPE FOR THE BEST

Hey guys, I'm not sure if I'm considered a URM. My father is South Asian and my mother is African American. Are South Asian's URM?

I'm applying to NYU, UPenn, NW, BU, UCLA, and Georgetown.

So I did it! I got a great LSAT score. And now I am completely lost on what to do.

Before I got my Dec score back I had a planned list of schools I was going to apply to and I had a decent personal statement written out. Now with this higher score I'm having to adjust the schools I am applying to and I feel like my personal statement needs to be completely re-done. I'm also a super splitter with some amazing softs but I'm not sure which schools will even consider that. Part of me wants to blanket the T-14 schools with applications and hope for the best. Another part of me wants to be more surgical with my applications and target schools that are more friendly to my situation.

Basically, without the LSAT, I am now completely lost...

Any suggestions?

Stats:

LSAT: 171

cGPA: 2.8

Degree GPA: 4.0 (64 units straight)

Non-traditional with a 5 year gap between bad grades and 4.0.

Softs: Marine Corps, Working for a higher level court for a year, Internship at a state court for a year and a couple more.

What would you do? What do I do? I am feeling pretty lost.

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Hi guys,

After much delay, finally took the lsat and my Dec score wasn't what i wanted (164), have a 3.76 gpa from a top 15 for ug, think i have a relatively strong personal statement. what are my options for this admission cycle? cannot fathom (for my own mental stability) punting going back to law school for another year so that's really just off the table for me, unfortunately.

Two questions:

Hi guys. I’ve made a stupid mistake in my applications. I’ve already completed and send in most of my applications; however, I recently got my driving record and found out one of the two speeding tickets I got was 20+ and it counts a reckless driving which is considered a misdemeanor in the state I’m from. Is there anyway I could update this information on my application that I’ve already submitted by notifying the schools? It happened several years ago and honestly didn’t even realize it was so serious until I got my record. Should I just email or call the admissions office for each school I applied it?

Happy Holidays to everyone done studying, still studying and just starting! :-D

I had a quick question regarding the character and fitness sections for a few specific schools. I know most of the schools in the T14 add a stipulation to their character and fitness questions that reads something along the lines of "excluding minor traffic infractions." However, there's a few that I've seen (Cornell, NYU, Penn) that don't include this proviso and ask for . I was ticketed for failing to completely stop at a stop sign about 2 years ago and although it turned out to be a parking ticket in the end, is this included as something I should disclose/explain?

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays everyone!

I got a 170 on the December test but think I'm capable of more (my recent PT avg was around 172). If I were to be wait listed at a T6, could sending a higher Feb score get me accepted? Are there any drawbacks to taking Feb (other than having to study more)?

Question, I received a 143 on my lsat and the school I'm looking at 25th percentile is a 145. However, my gpa is well over their 75th percentile. I have already submitted my applications, do I ask the school to hold the application until I take February's test? Also if i retake the February test and get a higher score, do they consider that for scholarships?

Just wondering ... ;-)

On December 26, 2015, I decided to take the LSAT. I bought a book from Barnes and Noble, immediately registered to take the test February 6th 2016. My first practice test I ever took, I got a 139. When I took the test, I got a 155. After I got my score, I signed up for 7Sage. I'm a mom of 3 (my kids are 7, 5, & 3), and I work full-time, so while I wasn't able to study as much as I would've liked, I put in my best effort, and I was able to pull a 164 out of the December LSAT. While not a 170, I'm still really proud of myself for hitting the 90th percentile. I just want to encourage anybody that feels like they're never going to improve their score, or like their starting score is "too low" to see a big improvement! Stick with it, and trust the process, even when it sucks. Happy Holidays, 7sagers!