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I've gotten a few questions, so I figured I'd make a second post because I know I really benefitted from reading other people's study method. I went from a diagnostic of 153 to a score of 173 in Dec (-3 RC, -2 LR, -2 LR, -2LG). I do want to point out that I got very, very lucky on test day. I had never scored above a 171 in practice, but was BRing at 179-180 consistently for the month before the exam. Sometimes you luck out with a test that plays to your strengths, and mine just happened to actually count!
I went through the core curriculum for about two months and then Fool Proofed LG. If you don't know what that is, check out this post: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1
Once I had fool proofed (took over a month), I started drilling and PTing. My schedule was:
Monday: 1 LR and LG section
Tuesday: 1 LR and RC section
Wednesday: 1 full PT/blind review
Thursday: 1 LR and RC section
Friday: 1 LR and LG section
Saturday: 1 full PT/blind review
I used all of PTs 40-52 for these section drills. I started out doing each section untimed, underlining the keywords in LR with a highlighter and writing a line # for where I had pinpointed the answer for RC. I would take 15+ minutes on each RC passage at first, and 45+ on LR. I figured it was better to get the basics and concepts down to a science before I moved on to timed. Eventually, I started timing my sections. Probably around October. Honestly, I wasn't learning anything from LG at this point, just keeping my mind sharp.
In November, I realized I needed to really focus on Flaw/NA questions. So instead of doing full LR sections (plus I was running out), I started using the 7sage question bank to drill. I'd do some timed, some untimed depending on how "hard" the question set was. Also in Nov, I started writing "explanations" for the questions I got wrong in my drills. I'd save these in a word doc but didn't really look at them again. But I learn by teaching, so I'd write out an explanation as to why a choice was correct and why all four others were wrong and then post it on the video explanation here on 7sage. I think this is when I consistently started scoring 169-170.
I found that I was able to go from -7ish a section on RC down to -2ish. I mostly did this through allowing myself to find the answer in the text. It's there. I would read the passage and make sure I understood it (started out by writing a summary for each paragraph, but found that to be too time consuming on timed sections). And then just go through the questions and make sure I could draw each answer to the text. For the untimed, I would write the paragraph line.
For PTs, I was worried I would need to retake so I was nervous about tearing through them all. So I started with PT 55 and did every three. So 55... 58... 61... 64, etc. Until I got to the 70s and started over. I jumped around a little bit to make sure I did 79 (the dreaded virus game) and 81 right before the Dec. test. All in all I did ~15 PTs.
**Edit: I also totally forgot that I worked through the Bibles in October lmao. I'd do a chapter of LR, LG, or RC a day. LR was helpful because at this point, I had gone through the CC in June so it was a good refresher. LG was a waste; I had already FP'd so I had already seen most of the games they used. RC was mostly useless too. However, I found it was good to focus just on RC but I didn't highlight/underline like they suggest. Overall, I used the Bibles for refreshers and test-taking strategies. Did LG or RC help? Eh. But the LR was good because it explained question types in a bit of a different way, so between the Bible and 7sage, I had a deep understanding of them.
I did all of this as a full time student taking 16 credit hours and working 10hrs at my part time job. Luckily, I had planned my course load and work schedule around the LSAT so I didn't start classes until 2pm on Monday/Wednesday and 11am on Tuesday/Thursday. This meant I was on campus at 8am every day, either to drill or take a PT. No tutors or any of that, but I relied on the 7sage forum and r/lsat to keep my mind in the "lsat" mode even when not feeling motivated.
I do believe that most people can raise their score with a good schedule that they stick to. How much, I can't say. But my schedule was very much let's-see-what-works and I just kinda went with it. I think you have to find what works for you; I drew from a lot of other people's tips and tricks. I hope this helps someone out there. Again, I got incredibly lucky on the exam (which is why I'm not retaking lmao) but maybe hopefully you wont have to rely on luck on your take!
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Hi just wondering because I am Blind reviewing now, how were you able to do a full blind review of a PT in one day?
Awesome job on the high score! It's great inspiration when fellow test takers who have found success share their stories. Thank you for taking the time and sharing.
Also @edricbala130 thanks for the suggestion for laminating LG. I find myself with mounds of paper and a big mess. Smarter way to go about it!
Thank you for taking the time to write this out. It's always interesting to see others' study methods. Congratulations on the fabulous score!
@nabintoud9765 I print one copy, then slide them into document protectors when i do the game and use an ultra fine tip expo marker, works perfectly! Didnt mean to hijack the question, just offering my suggestion
Hello @kimht90675
Re: full proofing, was there any sort of template you used for the recommended 10 printed copies of each game? Or, did you literally just print 10 copies of each game you did? (trying to see if there's any way around saving that much paper, probably not though).
@lc829103 said:
@kimht90675 said:
@geneaparas658 said:
For foolproofing your LG after the 2 months of cc, which tests did you use?
The logic games bundle, so all of 1-35, that comes with ultimate+
Hi @kimht90675, thank you so much for doing this, congrats on the killer score! Two questions,1. did you ONLY foolproof for a month before moving on to drills and PTs? And 2. When you did the two sections a day of PTs 40-52, did you just print the exams and assign different sections to different days? Did you BR those sections?
Yup, I spent a whole month on just full proofing. I was doing 6 hours a day plus working eight hours a day, so I didn't have much time for anything else haha. I just went through the tests while doing sections. So like, LG and LR1 from 43 on Monday, RC and LR2 from 43 on Tuesday. I personally printed them out as I went along, but I totally could have printed them all out at the same time, no biggie
@kimht90675 said:
@geneaparas658 said:
For foolproofing your LG after the 2 months of cc, which tests did you use?
The logic games bundle, so all of 1-35, that comes with ultimate+
Hi @kimht90675, thank you so much for doing this, congrats on the killer score! Two questions,1. did you ONLY foolproof for a month before moving on to drills and PTs? And 2. When you did the two sections a day of PTs 40-52, did you just print the exams and assign different sections to different days? Did you BR those sections?
@nvakhshoury885 Hi there! Yup, I did it almost to the t, with two new games a day (and then repeating the games from the day before and the week before). I only did two games, some people do a whole section or two sections, which makes it go quicker.
Honestly, I advocate finding what works best for you. The ideal results of foolproofing is the same, no matter what: -1/-0 per section. So if, after 35-40 games, you aren't seeing results, then maybe something needs to be changed. But for now I'd find one that works for your schedule, and go from there!
Thank you so much for posting this!!
I have a quick question about full-proofing, did you full-proof the same way as the post that you linked? I've read several different variations on full-proofing, and I'm testing them out right now.
@kimberleemcmillin935 said:
@yawbrobbey18 said:
Awesome! Congrats! What is CC by the way?
The Core Curriculum.
Thanks!
Thanks so much, this is really great!! :smile:
@yawbrobbey18 said:
Awesome! Congrats! What is CC by the way?
The Core Curriculum.
Awesome! Congrats! What is CC by the way?
@geneaparas658 said:
For foolproofing your LG after the 2 months of cc, which tests did you use?
The logic games bundle, so all of 1-35, that comes with ultimate+
For foolproofing your LG after the 2 months of cc, which tests did you use?
@emilycarrazana801 said:
Could you explain a bit on how you were able to blind review twice in one week. I imagine you took a full pt and blind reviewed in one day ? And then reviewed your answers throughout the week? After you completed your regimen for the other days ?
I touched on this a little above :)
I probably did BR wrong. I would only look at the questions I got wrong, because most of the time they were the "curve breaker" questions. I'd go through and erase any markings on the questions I got wrong; I'd then go through and wrote out the cookie-cutter review and would see if I'd get it right on a second go through. Honestly, with school and work I didn't think I had the time to BR the whole exam.
So I BR'd on the same day
Could you explain a bit on how you were able to blind review twice in one week. I imagine you took a full pt and blind reviewed in one day ? And then reviewed your answers throughout the week? After you completed your regimen for the other days ?
Thanks for posting this!
Maybe a future webinar interview/conference if you have time? Thanks for the additional details. It's very helpful when one's sort of in the middle of the ocean on the voyage of the study process.
Thanks again everyone!
@tristandesinor505 said:
Thanks for posting this and congrats on that great score!
How many months were you studying for the Lsat from start to finish?
I started the CC in early May and finished it in late June and then started FPing Logic Games in June. Ended up taking July off, then continued FPing in August. Took much of September off and then began drilling/PTing in late September.
@kimht90675 said:
@kimht90675 Thanks so much for posting this and congratulations!!! Do you mind sharing how long do you usually spend reading each RC passage and how do you manage the section timing? Also, although you said you don't go back to the passage for every single question but do you refer to the passage for the vast majority of questions?
With timing, I mostly focused on 8.5 minutes/passage, spending around 2-4 minutes reading. I'd say I didn't need to go back for 1/3 of the questions, for another 1/3 I knew the answer but chose to be sure by going back, and the last 3rd I needed to go check the passage.
@kimht90675 Thanks so much for posting this and congratulations!!! Do you mind sharing how long do you usually spend reading each RC passage and how do you manage the section timing? Also, although you said you don't go back to the passage for every single question but do you refer to the passage for the vast majority of questions?
Congrats and thanks for sharing! I've decided to postpone a cycle but this will be super helpful to reference when I start studying again. Good luck with this cycle!
Thanks for sharing this, @kimht90675! Wish you the best in your applications!
Thanks for posting this and congrats on that great score!
How many months were you studying for the Lsat from start to finish?
Thank you for posting this! Congrats on the awesome score!