:warning: **This post contains spoilers to PT80.S4.Q15** :warning:

I had trouble parsing out the stimulus of PT80.S4.Q15 (which is supposed to be an easy MSS question) because I did not understand what "... than otherwise would be" was referring to at first.

I was advised that I should make a post to practice using "otherwise" as appeared in the stimulus.

• During this holiday season, I gained more weight than I otherwise would, since studying for the LSAT stressed me out.

:star: Comparison: weight gain during the holiday season with the LSAT v. weight gain during holiday seasons without the LSAT

https://media.giphy.com/media/uPRX2fS9wVVx6/giphy.gif

• The increase in my LSAT score is more than it otherwise would be, since I have the best LSAT teacher.

:star: Comparison: The increase in LSAT score with @"J.Y. Ping" v. The increase in LSAT score without @"J.Y. Ping"

https://media.giphy.com/media/sJMDOVSvKlXMs/giphy.gif

• I am less worried about the law school application process than I otherwise would be, since I have the 7Sage Admission Course.

:star: Comparison: Me with 7Sage v. Me without 7Sage

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JhtY8TXJVPIAenS/giphy.gif

I need to come up with more, but I can't seem to get my mind off of LSAT/law school apps.

Happy holidays, everyone! ☃️

I have a hypothetical situation-question:

I'm waiting to hear back from a bunch of schools, but let's say that I get waitlisted at some of them. Do waitlist reviews by the schools still go on at at the end of June/during July? Would taking a June 2018 LSAT and scoring higher than my current highest score help me get off the waitlist? If anyone has experienced something like this or knows more about the waitlist process during the summer, please chime in! This is all a "maybe" for me and I hate the thought of retaking the LSAT but I'd like to prepare for different scenarios. I don't want to take the February LSAT because I heard weird stories about those and undisclosed tests scare me.

Thank you~

I'm taking the Feb 2018 LSAT. Why is the Feb test so dreaded? Just because they report the score? Is that paranoia or is there some evidence that it is harder? Also, who takes the Feb test? June seems like overachievers. Sept/Oct obviously most popular. December has many retakes. I didn't think much of this until I googled it (a regret).

My diagnostic was 153. After ~6 months of on and off study, I scored a 173 in Dec! In fact, this was 2 points higher than my best PT! And I had only scored 171 once before the test. My average was 167ish. I'm so grateful for the 7sage community throughout this journey.

I had read posts about "positive thinking" and meditation, so I figured I'd give it a try. 173 was the score I chose to picture; before each PT I pictured me opening my email and seeing 173. And despite no evidence that it would, it worked!

My test day was honestly the worst I could have imagined. I got to the test center ~20 minutes early, but it was game day at my university so there was no parking. I ended up street parking about a football field away after calling my boyfriend and exploding on him; sobbing, convincing myself I wasn't gonna take, the whole nine yards. And then once I made it halfway to the center, I realized I forgot my admissions ticket in the car. So I RAN back to my car and then RAN to the test center. It was 8:24 when I got back to my car. I truly thought this was a sign that I wasn't meant to take it. I was the last person to check in; I ran to the bathroom before getting to the room. It was hell honestly.

I luckily managed to just separate myself from that, but during the entire directions I was breathing heavy lmao.

It ended up working out for me, but honestly I was hoping for 165 after the test. All this to say, just because a day goes bad does not mean you should cancel. I think I'm done testing with my 173. Thank you 7sage. For keeping me calm and for just being a great community.

I'm taking the Feb 2018 LSAT. Why is the Feb test so dreaded? Just because they report the score? Is that paranoia or is there some evidence that it is harder? Also, who takes the Feb test? June seems like overachievers. Sept/Oct obviously most popular. December has many retakes. I didn't think much of this until I googled it (a regret).

Hey, all. I was recently having a convo with someone else studying for the test. The convo was regarding timed and untimed scores. I said that if one scores the same on a timed PT as on an untimed PT that indicates a lack in knowledge and fundamentals because untimed you have time to think out strategy and whatever else to get the correct answer but you still didn’t. The other person didn’t agree. What are your thoughts?

Hey, guys. Why is there talk of three M here when the rules say exactly two M? JY mentions three M and others also mentioned in the comments section. What am I missing here? Three M was never an option for me becatse of that rule.

Hi everyone,

I have a bit of a weird problem... Over my preparation for the LSAT, I have made HUGE improvements but I have one thing in LR still holding me back and I am really not sure what I should/can do to fix this. Whenever I am doing an LR section, I am not sure if I get nervous or anxious but I read a stimulus and have trouble remembering what I read, which sometimes requires me to have to reread the stimuli a second or a third time before moving to the AC. Interestingly, as SOON as I am done the section and the 35 minutes have passed, I read through the section again and I have no problem with recall. It is as if timing resulted in me having trouble remembering the stimuli. Also, this only happens in the LR section and usually at the beginning. I think by question 4 I am fine. Even with this problem, however, I am still under -9 for both LR combined.

Has anyone else experienced something similar? Will it go away as I just do more timed sections? Any advice would be appreciated!

I am really struggling with these questions. As soon as I hit the medium level questions I have hit a wall. Any tips?

I just got my score back, after over 48 hours of waiting... 174! I'm so happy with this as I had been PT'ing at 167-169. Especially after registering and cancelling September because I didn't feel ready.

I just wanted to thank you guys for keeping me sane during this entire process and guiding me in the right direction. 7sage curriculum really helped me and I was on autopilot during the test. For anyone who didn't quite get the score they wanted, don't give up hope! Any one of us can improve our mastery of the fundamentals and there will always be time to retake. Just gotta put in the work and believe in yourself. I really appreciate you guys!

P.S. My IRR and disclosure book weren't available after getting the score. Should I be concerned?

Best,

Matt

Does anyone have any advice on how I go about putting research papers I presented at conferences on my resume? Do I just put them under my education section like so:

Conference Papers:

o “Scotland is Ours: The Impact of Youth Voters on the 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum” (With Mathers, E). Great Plains Political Science Association Conference, Overland Park, KS Fall 2016. (Won Best Undergraduate Paper Award),

o “Flexible Politics: Mobilization strategies of youth activists in the 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum” (With Clancy, K and Mathers, E.)

It just seems like it takes up a lot of space and makes my education section way too long. The papers were never published, so I can't put them under a publications section. Any advice would be appreciated.

Turns out this was not a waste of money at all...

I’m so disappointed/lost/confused/sad/discouraged. I studied for the LSAT full time for six months. I was averaging around 158-160 for a solid four months. I took the September LSAT and fell 9 points below my average PT score. I figured I was just experiencing test anxiety (I’m a terrible test taker), and would try again in December. Now that I know the process, I won’t be anxious in December, right? Wrong. I completely and utterly bombed my December exam. To the point that Iaughed when I saw my score, then cried, then laughed again. I felt like a crazy person. I fell 16 POINTS BELOW my average. I printed out the test and retook it at home yesterday without looking at my previous answers, so that I could really give it an honest shot and see where I messed up. I scored my average PT score again. I’m so upset and disappointed in myself because I KNOW I can do this. I know I understand the material and that I can hit my average. I’m just so confused and scared now to retake in February. I registered for February but I’m really hesitant now. I’m afraid I’m going to fall even lower than my Dec test (if that’s even humanly possible- my score was so hideous), and to be honest, I don’t even know if I have the mental stamina to take this damn devil of a test again :( any advice, thoughts, comments or words of encouragement would be so great. I’m so clouded. Thanks in advance, everyone!

After having received my December score (152) I have chosen to retake in February. Leading up to December I used the Trainer and Powerscore for LG. I was PTing between 158-162 consistently which is my target score range. Not sure what went wrong on test day, probably a combination of nerves and not having a full grasp on LR. (typically would go -6 to -8 while PTing for LR) What would be the best way to increase my understanding before February? Focus back on the Trainer or sign up for a CC course or just drill and BR? Thanks

I need to write this, because even with all the hard work I put in, I got a score I am happy with today because of this community. The support, kindness, and encouragement that 7Sage offers is unlike any other LSAT resource. At my lowest points during my year and a half of studying the people of 7Sage were there for me and willing to be shoulders to lean on. The collective intelligence and sense of community that this forum provides was essential to my success. So truely, thank you 7Sage. I will stick around to help others enjoy the same degree of success that I am enjoying today. It’s my turn to give back to the community.

Always remember you have it in you. You CAN get the score you want!

Hello,

I submitted my application to Northwestern and registered for an online interview. Kinda nervous. Anyone has any tips? Or if anyone went through it what was your experience?

P.S. It is by far my top choice :)

I need to improve 5-8 points for February.... trust me I have plenty of room to improve.... if you are interested in giving some advice to me, message me and I'll give you my December stats.... for the sake of humiliating myself.... keep in mind i took it relatively cold, i know mistake..... i'm just struggling to even begin to know where to start....

SW

Hello! I just need some advice. I got the same score on my LSAT score from December 2016 and December 2017, do I need to write an addendum twice or can I just submit my application? The reason for the gap in taking the test is I decided to take a year off before starting law school and I retook the test to see if I could get a higher score or not.

Hi everyone,

I have some good news- after averaging ~170 on my practice LSATs, I managed to pull off a 175 on test day. I couldn't have done it without the help of the 7Sage community, so thank you all for your continued support and advice!

At this point I'm trying to figure out what my next steps should be. On the LSAC scale I have a cumulative 3.98 GPA, and on the OLSAS scale my cGPA is 3.84, while my B3 is 3.92. So, I know that I have a fairly competitive numeric profile, but since i was scoring in the low 170s before I only applied for the University of Toronto and UBC law schools. Now, however, I know that I have competitive enough scores to apply for some of the top schools in the world- I want to apply to Yale, Harvard, and Stanford.

My main question is whether you guys think that I should apply this year (I likely won't have my letters of reference completed until late January) or if I should wait until the next cycle. Any advice would go a long way; thank you all so much again!

Arlo

I haven’t gotten an email from LSAC yet, and my score is not showing up online. Anyone else in the same boat? Should I be worried?

Hey fellow 7Sagers,

If your like me (and it seems like a lot are) and got less than your average score, please dont feel like your alone. I scored almost 4 points lower than my usual average, and missed my goal score by 3 points. I am not sure what to do. I did get 5 points higher than my last LSAT (2016 v. 2017) but I am not sure if I should take it a 3rd time or let it be. I am below the 25% at my target school, and my GPA is in the middle of the 25% and median. So I am not sure if I should retest or not. The LAST thing I want is for a school to average my scores-that would be a nightmare. I have a strong personal statement and I fill so many diversity boxes that I know I am a strong applicant. I just dont know if I should retest or not. Can I submit applications without a full commitment to retesting? If I get accepted, there is no way in hell I want to retest. Advice?

Merry Christmas either way.

I was hopeful that I could apply this cycle and most of my recommenders have already uploaded my recs to my file, unfortunately that won't be the case. Does CAS save my transcripts & LORs so I can reuse next cycle? Or will I have to repurchase it and ask them to upload everything again next year? Also some recommenders haven't uploaded yet, do I ask them to wait for next year?

Thank you!

After 2 days of torture over this early score announcement shenanigans, I finally got the email and happy to see a 174 on the December test. I started this journey at the end of July, which was a really dark time of my life being butted out by my previous company when I was in my 1st trimester of pregnancy. But I’m so glad that I found this 7Sage community and have stuck with all the courses and PTs. I started out with a untimed 158 on the 07June test, and am so happy to see my efforts paying off! Just want to give a big shout out to JY and the amazing fellows on the site that’s been giving me a lot of encouragement and discussions throughout the time. And to those who just started, wish you all the best, and trust me, as long as you spend the time and follow JY’s teaching, you really can do this!

Happy holidays everyone!

When I first received my score from the September LSAT, I was discouraged. I scored a 151, well below my expectations. Powerscore simply wasn't working for me. I made the switch to 7sage, which might have been the best thing I could have done honestly. J.Y makes things so easy to understand, and it really helped me better myself at LR and RC.

Anyways, ended up with a 160 on this LSAT.

Moral of the story, YOU CAN DO IT! You can definitely increase your totals before February, I have faith in each and every one of you.

:)

I just got my LSAT score and i got a 170, I am not sure if i will take it again, however, this would not have been possible without the guidance of the 7sage community. I absolutely sucked at standardised tests but with 7sage's help I was able to improve my skills a lot. It was especially helpful cause i am an international student and English is not my native language (my RC was as bad as it can get).Thank you guys. Also, i will be happy to help anyone here looking to break plateaus or anything else with whatever knowledge I have of the LSAT. Don't give up guys, this was not my first attempt and i thought i will never touch a 170.