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On April 15, we’re going to raise the price of Admissions Comprehensive Consulting from $2999 to $3499.

I was going to spin this like, “Hey, lock in your 2017 price now,” and to be honest, I might still spin it, but the forum didn’t feel like the right place for a sales pitch, so I’m just going to explain why we’re doing what we’re doing.

This past fall, we were overwhelmed with demand, and we had to shut down our sales page throughout most of October, our busiest month. I could have responded by quickly hiring a bunch of editors and consultants with fancy pedigrees, but I was concerned about the quality of the product. I would much rather be a premium service than an application widget factory.

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This paradox question seemingly has two correct answers: A and E. The paradox is that HE (home ownership) corresponds with prosperity while HE also corresponds with unemployment. Choice A deals with how it can correlate with unemployment while E deals with how it correlates with prosperity ("economically secure" is synonymous enough with "economic prosperity"). Both answers seemingly fall short of explaining the other side of the paradox. However, I chose E on the basis the A was more wrong in that it states that owning a home makes it harder to move to a region "where jobs are MORE plentiful" (emphasis added). We are not precluding jobs from being plentiful from where our home is. Just that on the "plentiful scale", our region is lower.

At the end of the day though, Choice A is correct and I haven't found any forum that adequately explains why. Here's my explanation. Please share your thoughts on it.

The stimulus is not concerned with why HE correlates with prosperity. The author seems to take it for granted and already understands it. His wonderment begins at the second sentence when he introduces the correlation to unemployment. In other words, his real question is why HE can ever correspond to unemployment. And Choice A is the only answer that addresses this issue. This is not really a paradox question in my opinion but more of a Strengthener.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-3-question-05/

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Hey guys,

I know that most of you guys are aware that there will be more test dates added this year, however, I was wondering if anyone knew when we would be able to register for them...

I am already registered to take the exam in June but would prefer to take it in July...does anyone know if that would be possible?

I dont think I am technically a retaker you will see why - I was scheduled to take this February test, BUT due to a personal crisis situation I could not take the test :(, yeah life happens too!!!

I am shooting for the 2019 app cycle and am planning on registering for the test in June 2018. My avg PT score is 168, which is not great I know but was a journey from my 153 diag score (shout out to JY's CC and 7sage community).

I have been working for a big technology company for the past 6 years a.k.a hectic 50 to 60 hr work week + I am a parent of a toddler.

Now with all that said my current situation is that I burned a lot of PT's specially the modern PT's 70 -83. I tried to be very diligent and do a thorough BR after each PT, I only have PT77 and PT78 untouched which sucks. I finished the CC last year. As for sections I am good with LG -0 mostly and sometimes -1 if i hit a hard games, LR is decent, RC is my worst section (-7 avg) I am still haunted by a -11 on PT74 RC.

I am paralyzed and not sure how to proceed with the prep for June, I now want to aim for 170+. My brain is still reeling from recent events and I cant think of how to prep and how to PT. Also, since RC is my weakest section I tried drilling earlier RC's before the february test and they seem way different (easier) after doing 70+. I will take a 2-3 week break come back renew my 7sage account to begin with.

Please advise on a prep strategy, after all that rambling I want to say I have been on 7sage for 1 and half year now learned so much and very good to hear 7sagers success stories, very motivating.

Hi all, I'm applying to school in the fall and am going to start requesting my LOR's now (1. to get it out of the way and 2. to give some of my writers time to do it without feeling rushed on their end as I know they have busy schedules). Here are the people I'm going to ask to write LORs for me:

Graduate school professor that was also on my thesis committee. I did well in her classes, I feel confident that she "liked" me, and would write me a good LOR. I also volunteered to do my thesis on a project she was working on so I'm hoping there is some vested interest there. I was in grad school 2009-2011 so this is my most recent college experience (obtained my UG degree in 1998 and I couldn't pick out 95% of my UG professors out of a line up at this point).

Former boss (military) that is my mentor and who I have had an over 15 year professional and personal relationship with.

Former military work colleague that was a military lawyer and is now a successful lawyer in civilian practice.

The principal at my daughter's elementary school who can speak to my volunteer work within the school. For the last two years, I have performed significant volunteer service for my daughter's school. I am the coach of her basketball team, assistant coach of the school's track team, I am the "Wednesday lunch parent" (translation - provide adult supervision for a 2 hour lunch / recess period for the school every Wednesday, year round), class librarian (work the library for the class every other Thursday), and Girls on The Run practice parent (bring snacks twice a week for the school's GOTR program).

QUESTION (s): I believe that admissions committees would prioritize the LORs in the order above (as far as relevance / usefulness in the decision process. Agree / disagree? Any issues with any of the potential LOR writers or are there any other "type" of person I should be looking for? Note: Finding someone to write a quality LOR from my UG days is going to be extremely tough since, you know, Bill Clinton was president, Seinfeld was still airing new episodes, and mp3s were invented that year...

I just wanted to hop on real fast and say sorry to the community! I haven't been super active the past week or so because I'm stressing out over some stuff the LSAC is doing and it's impacting my applications horribly. I promise once this is resolved I'll be able to get back to answering questions and giving suggestions/motivation!

I'm still here! :D

I have no experience at all with the LSAT except for the 1st 4 lessons on here. Should I do the diagnostic test now or should I come back after I’ve done some more of the course work? I know that the point of a diagnostic is to gauge where I stand, but I don’t even know what the test looks like or what kind of questions to expect…is it worth it to bomb the first one out of inexperience or would it be more productive to wait until I see how the test questions are formatted?

So I've been fool proofing post CC. I started out on a schedule of 1 PT a day, drilling each game on day 1, 2, and 7. I'm figuring out that games are stacking very quickly. For example here is what a 7th days spread looks like with the method above. Day 1: PT1 Day 2: PT 1&2 Day 3: PT 3&2 Day 4: PT 4&3 Day 5: PT 5&4&1 Day 6: PT 6&5&1 Day 7: PT 7&6&3&1

What begins as a reasonable load quickly adds up to 4 PTs in one day, which is overkill in my opinion. Then on day 5 or 7 if I have missed even one question from the day 1 PT I will attempt it until a perfect score. I've now abandoned the original schedule. Instead, I have been doing 1 PT per day and simply attempting at least 4 other questions that had the lowest time or scores in prior games.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a cleaner, more methodical approach to fool proofing? I occasionally catch myself being biased and selectively choosing to repeat games that are difficult, but I actually enjoy over the games that I hate.

Tell me what you think your top 5 favorite courses will be with whatever prior knowledge you have about the courses. This does not have to be the end all be all LOL.

ABA 1L courses include

civil procedure

constitutional law

contracts

criminal law and criminal procedure

legal writing and research

property law

torts

I think mines will be

4.Property law

Sometimes we'll receive a notification or message about a webinar or a message about our progress. I think they appear in a little chat box when you first receive them. How do I access those? They're not in my inbox.

Edit: Found them! They're on the Contact Us page.

Hello everyone,

I am an UMR (first generation Mexican-American) and a bunch of priority deadlines are this Thursday so I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking a certain school. I know the ivy leagues tend to be good for this but based on my LSAT and GPA of 159 and 3.24, I am not applying to those schools.

I am applying to UC Hastings (top choice), Chicago- Kent, UC Irvine, U of Wisconsin.... any other recommendations?

So far I have submitted apps for Pepperdine, USD and U of Denver.

Thank you,

Stephanie

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself. I just recently purchased the 7sage course after taking a 3 month LSAT prep course through another company and sitting for the Feb 18 LSAT. My practice test scores were all coming out between low to high 160's, but I definitely do not feel I performed that way on test day.

I tried doing my PT's under accurate test day conditions, but oh boy does the real thing still feel different. I definitely succumbed to test day anxiety and found myself rushed on certain sections and struggling on question types I'm normally pretty confident in.

Anyway, my question is what is the consensus on score cancellations? I see this course recommends longer study times before sitting for your first LSAT, and now that the two-year limit has been removed and LSAT sends your average score on all LSAT's as well as individual scores to schools - is it worth considering a cancellation if you feel you under performed where you should be?

Thanks, and looking forward to chatting with everyone!

Anyone else have this issue? I've reinstalled the app.

I took the LSAT back in 2008-2009. I took Kaplan prep course which did not help in any way. The instructor was on speed and just assumed everyone understood what was being taught. I got 140. Then self studied and again, got 140. It was terrible. I honestly felt lost; Defeated. I gave up, hating this test because it just made me feel so stup*d. Anyways fast forward to 2018, I've decided to try again, yes ten years later. -__- I'm trying to find a really good course program, one that does not assume everyone is the smartest person on the planet, if that makes sense. I've been out of school for ten years so I am like literally starting back up from dirt.

I've seen so many online courses, I came across 7sage, Alpha score, and the LSAT trainer. I've read terrible reviews about the LSAT trainer, but haven't really seen any reviews on 7sage and Alpha Score. Can anyone give any feed back on any of these two? I'm really looking for a course that's really going to break down and explain each section to where the average joe (me) can get it.

I feel like I have enough time to really learn how to finally get a decent score on this test. At least I think I do.

After taking the LSAT a few times, I feel like the self-imposed pressure of the real tests has caused me to rush during the test. I've had trouble simulating the actual nerves on the test. I'm too relaxed during PT's. Truthfully, that relaxation is what I'd like to achieve, since it has helped me score high PT's. And I'll think some more on that. However, I want to shake it up a little. I am thinking of trying all the section in 30 mins. Obviously, there is a point where this becomes absurd. How about 25 mins? How about 20? I'll play around with it, but any thoughts on how to ramp up the pressure in PT's so that it can feel closer to a real test?

I'm wrestling with the idea of applying to Yale by Feb 28. I just took the LSAT 2 days ago. I think I did okay (my gut says it was between 13-15 misses or a 167, best case scenario maybe a 172). I had only recently committed myself to wanting to go to law school, which is why I missed the December LSAT and a number of the application cycles for schools that express concerns against testing in February. Fortunately Yale is not one of those schools; they accept Feb test scores without a stated penalty to the applicant's admission chances. Yale is the only top 5 law school to which this applies, and I also have legacy at Yale which I think may help my chances.

I'm 28 now, waiting a year and applying next winter would mean I start Law School when I'm 30. I also don't know what I would do with the extra year besides work and save. I'm currently in a career field somewhat unrelated to law (corporate finance), so I don't think an extra year of work experience would particularly bolster my application (I've already worked for 6 years since graduating college). So applying this year and starting in the fall (if I get in) makes a lot of sense...though there are some things I'm unsure of:

The deadline to apply for financial aid in March 15, though I imagine many students have already applied. does applying for aid this late reduce chances of receiving grants/scholarships?

Does an LSAT score of 170 realistically even qualify me for any aid at a school like Yale? Is the criteria for aid need based or merit based? Socioeconomically my family is UMC and I personally have non-liquid assets (homeowner's equity)

As mentioned Yale doesn't actually communicate a "penalty" for Feb LSAT test takers, does anyone have information to suggest this may not truly be the case?

Question about re-application...I obviously don't know my LSAT score yet, so in that sense I'm sort of applying "blind". It's entirely possible I screwed up more than I thought and my score is more like a 160, which would obviously seriously hurt my chances. Does re-applying to the same law school a year later put you at a disadvantage against students who are applying for the first time?

Any thoughts/insights are appreciated. If it makes sense to wait or if I should just go for it.

Thanks!

Hari

Not sure if this has been addressed already, I am aware LSAC does not release the February exam... but will we receive per section breakdowns at all, or just our score?

Thanks!

Hello,

So I took the February 2018 LSAT but I am anticipating to retake it this June.

I think I did well (probably around 168-173), but I think I can do better next time.

That being said, I think I currently only have 5 full PT left. Usually my study consist of mostly doing full PT and BRing.

I haven't done PT 1-35, although obviously I have done many of the QS from the curriculum and the LG drill.

My last 5 PT averages are 171.

Any tips as to how I can improve my score on my June LSAT?

Thanks!

Warning: long post ahead.

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on submitting an LSAT addendum? I'm really embarrassed to say this and to list my scores, but I took the LSAT last Saturday for the fourth time. I have taken the test three others times: Sept. 2016 (142), June 2017 (145), and Sept. 2017 (145). I have very bad test anxiety, and during the September 2017 test I had a panic attack. After receiving my September score, which was lower than I thought I'd get, I went to my doctor and was prescribed beta-blockers. I was scoring in the 150s on every PT I took leading up to the exam, but a week before the test I had a meltdown, emailed my advisor and instructor, and both told me not to put the test off and just take it. I have always been someone who trusts their intuition, so I am mad at myself for not holding off.

Fast forward to last Saturday's test: leading up to the test my score jumped to a 158 on PTs and I was scoring consistently higher in each section. I was pretty calm for most of the week, but Saturday morning I was clearly anxious (my heart rate was ~115 beats/minute). I ended up taking a beta blocker before the test, but I still feel like I didn't score well again this time. I could be wrong (and honestly this could just be nerves), but I'm wondering how an LSAT addendum would be taken if the reason for low scores is due to test anxiety? I don't think I would have test anxiety in law school - I think the reason I get even more anxious taking the LSAT is that I feel like this test is the only thing stopping me from getting admitted. I also don't know if an admissions committee will look negatively at this, and question whether I'd get test anxiety in law school and when taking the Bar? I'm also concerned because I already have an addendum for my GPA. It's considered low; it's a 3.02. All honest opinions/advice welcome. Thank you!

Side note: I would get in to my state school and others I'm interested in with a score in the 150s - I don't have the GPA for a T-14. I do, however, have very strong softs!

Hello,

I need some insight on what exactly I should omit from my Resume. I graduated undergrad in 2012 and went back for my paralegal cert. in 2015. I have 5 years work experience. I also have a ton of extracurricular activities(boxing, dancing, mentoring), Honor Society's and leadership positions during undergrad. Should I include all of those things or should I stick to my skills and employment experience? Thanks for your responses!

I took the test this Saturday and I am very conflicted on what to do. I took the test in Connecticut. It was 30 something degrees outside that morning. The room was initially warm when I got there so I sat in the corner by the window. We lost heat in the room when the test started and I basically took the first half of the exam shivering and freezing the entire time ( I am anemic). My hands were shaking the entire time because I was so cold. It was fixed during our break and we had heat the second half of the exam. The only section I was not able to complete was one of the sections I took during the first half. I honestly don't know if it was difficult or if was the conditions or maybe both coupled with nerves. Leading up to the exam, I haven't had any problems completing the sections. In fact I was really excited because I had spent a year prepping and I was scoring very well on my PTs.

To make things worst my proctor--(very sweet elderly lady) would continue to give us instructions AFTER starting our time. She did this for EVERY section. So as I am reading question number 1 with the clock running, she would be talking. I don't think it was intentional. She was very kind...but those seconds do add up. Everything is telling me I should cancel and reach out to LSAC. Any advice?

I am very bummed. I really wanted to be done with the LSAT after this weekend.

Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. Back ground first, actual question further down, skip if you want:

Background: I'm going in on the Ultimate package this Friday and looking to start my build up for my next run at the LSAT. I just sat for the Feb 18 LSAT (1st "real" LSAT score) and as expected, the LG sections (thanks experimental) threw me for a loop. LG is by far my weakest section. Bullet points on my history: Self study for ~6 months (LSAT Trainer, Manhattan LR, PS LG Bible). 20 full PTs in during previous build, diagnostic 147 (I got 3 right on LG on my diagnostic), with a slow but steady increase over the next 19 (10 out of the last 11 PTs score range from 160-164 with a rolling average of ~162 for the last 5). LR typical performance is ~20-22 questions complete with -0/-3 range, RC typical performance is all passages read, all questions answered with ~-3/-4, LG on a good day sees me completing 3 games and 1st question on last one with -4/-5. I'm retired military / stay at home dad with a decent amount of time to dedicate to LSAT study. I tend to max out "good study" at 4-5 hours a day and I like to reserve at least one full weekend day to not study / family time. I've religiously watched the 7Sage LG videos during review and they have really helped my understanding increase, but I'm not where I want to be at this point.

I want to take the full CC to tighten up my knowledge / understanding of the test across all three sections and hopefully increase speed as a natural result of a deeper understanding (vs trying to "go faster"). I also know that LG is my weakest by far and the area in which I can hopefully close the gap the most. I want to target one of the next three LSAT dates (June / July / Sept) and apply to school during the fall of this year. I'll sign up for a testing date after I start scoring at / above my desired target (169).

ACTUAL QUESTION: Is it reasonable to take the CC and start fool proofing LG at the same time? I envision 2-3 hours of CC and 1-2 hours of LG specific work (fool proofing) a day. Is it reasonable for me to do both concurrently and obtain the learning objectives I have given where I am in my current understanding of each section?

Thanks in advance. This is a great community / supportive space. As a guy soon turning 46, I tend to chuckle when I read the people half my age worrying about starting law school "too late" in life. :) I'm not worried about my age in law school, I'm worried about finding a first time law job at 50...

Hello,

So on a PC I am able to press the button to get out of a full screen and revert back if needed, but I am unable to do so on a Mac or iPad. Could this be fixed? Does anyone else have this problem?

I feel like 7sage.com works better on a pc than a mac. Please help.

I put 10 copies of each of the games from the Powerscore Re-challenge into a OneNote notebook (screenshotted from my kindle copy). It was incredibly useful for foolproofing. The table of contents has a mastery checklist and also has links to each of the games. Each game page also has a link to J.Y's explanation videos on the 7sage website.

You can view some screenshots here:

https://ibb.co/j00W37

https://ibb.co/cu5yi7

https://ibb.co/n5YPan

I want to share for those of you who have Onenote on a tablet pc. It allowed me to carry my logic games prep with me everywhere.

You can download the notebook here: https://nofile.io/f/6KngWJsexb6/Logic+Games+Foolproofing.zip

You'll just need to extract it into your onenote notebooks folder (C:\Users[username]\Documents\OneNote Notebooks)

Also, to avoid illegally distributing content I password protected the zipfile. If you would like to use it, please send me a note verifying you own the current edition of the Powerscore Logic Games Bible (or, all of the preptests in the 2nd screenshot) and I will send you the password to unlock the zip file.

Hope this helps some!

Anybody know why you can't yet sign up for the July LSAT? Thanks so much!