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Hey 7Sagers!

In terms of submitting LOR to LSAC - once the professor gets the link, do they submit only one LOR and then we distribute the same letter to each law school? Or do they need to provide multiple/ tailor each LOR to the school...? Let's say you're applying to five, do you ask your professor for five? So lost....

Thanks YALL.

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Hi all,

I am having difficulty gaging the rolling admission process. I am taking the September exam because I have been planning to get my app in as soon as possible. But, I don't think I'm ready. I will probably remain scoring in the mid 150s. But I've had less than a month of proper study time. I know I can do a lot better if I wait for December. But, I have a fear it is detrimental to apply that late in the game. Is that true?

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I can't see why E is a better AC that D. Any thoughts?

Flaw

Argument Summary:

Context: The presence of X has conditioned the US to support a substantial defense budget.

Premise 1: X is gone.

Conclusion: Doubtful that the public will support an adequate defense budget.

Prephrase:

X-->Y

/X

/Z

Huh? What is an “adequate” budget in the absence of X? That is the issue here.

Answer Choices:

A) No it definitely does not. It does just the opposite and presume the public cannot be manipulated in the absence of X. Eliminate.

B ) Well it does do this but that is not the flaw. The issue lies in term “adequate”. Eliminate.

C) He uses the descriptor “doubtful”. Definitely not it. This is confusing because it’s hard to understand. But it is false and not the flaw. Eliminate.

D) Well yea it does do this. The argument concludes /Z, but provides no support for that in the argument.

E) Yes it does this too. What the hell does “adequate” even mean?

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Hello! Any advice I can get would be greatly appreciated :)

I am going to be finishing my in-class Blueprint prep course in about a month that's for people taking the September LSAT. I recently decided however that I wont be doing the September exam anymore and will be taking a few more months to study for the December LSAT instead. The Blueprint class has been an extremely helpful beginning for me since it's put me in a structured schedule with fun lessons that are easy for me to understand. I went from143 to 152 in a month and I think I can probably make it to 160 by mid-September, but I'd like to get to over 170 by December.

My dilemma is I don't know what the best way to do that is. Do I renew my online blueprint account until December and just keep practicing those online practice questions on my own? I also considered doing another in class course of some kind just to keep me motivated in a schedule but those are so expensive and I feel like I wouldn't get that much benefit from it since I already do know the basics. I've also considered buying a 7Sage package but I have some concerns with that like unnecessarily confusing myself with the different strategies that 7Sage presents in comparison to Blueprint. I don't want to feel like I'm wasting time starting from scratch or that I have to unlearn the Blueprint strategies just so I can relearn from 7Sage or whatever other companies' strategies without confusion. I'm also not great at self-studying. I do have motivation and discipline to study a lot and work hard, but I usually need to be in some kind of structure like a class in order to do that to my greatest potential. This brought me to consider getting a tutor that I could see weekly and that could just customize helping me based on what level I'm already at and adding to strategies I'm already using. What do you all think would be the best option to get me to a minimum of 170 by December?

Also if you have tried a tutor before did it work for you? Any really good tutor recommendations? And if you have studied for the LSAT using two companies before, did you feel like it got confusing or that you had to start over?

Thanks for reading!! :)

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Hey guys!

I am planning to write the LSAT in September/December, depending on how far I get with my studying this month. I do not have school right now and I only work once a week so I literally have all month to study diligently for the September LSAT. Right now, I am just finishing up the core curriculum, although I tend to follow a slightly different approach in terms of getting the most time effective studying done.

Let me know if any of you are interested in either doing PT's together or are in the same boat as I am in.

I can meet anywhere in the lower mainland. I prefer meeting in Surrey or Vancouver though.

Admin Edit: Please don't post titles in all caps, the admins are sensitive.

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Why is the text so small all of a sudden? I went to print 77 and the text is really small. It wasn't like this when I was printing earlier. Is any one else having these issues? Also, I am in chrome fwiw.

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This is true for me in LR/RC sections. As soon as J.Y. gives me the five minute warning on my phone two things are guaranteed to happen.

1.) I jump....every. damn. time.

2.) I start to get a brief moment of panic and all the reading I am doing goes out the window. I have to stop, compose myself, and resume.

How can I not let it cause panic in me?

It's not that I am running out of time, I usually finish every section on time, I just don't like to feel rushed.

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Proctors: One main proctor and several law students volunteering on stand-by.

Facilities: Pretty good, bathrooms were plentiful and nearby. Good lighting, sturdy seats, and wide tables.

What kind of room: Classroom.

How many in the room: 30-40

Desks: Lab-style desks in that the tables were long tables. People sat in every other chair.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes, since they're lab-style desks.

Noise levels: A bit above average - no construction noises, but tons of shuffling papers, people coming in and out to use the restroom (quite often, actually), and proctors continuously whispering to each other. Unfortunately sat by the door, so was surprised how many people used the restroom during the test.

Parking: Accessible and abundant parking available all around the building - free of charge.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30-45 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: The main proctor was not very pleasant and would not allow me to keep my Casio analog watches on the table to keep time so I awkwardly wore them all on my wrist. I also wasn't allowed to take a sip of my water right before the exams were handed out/directions read and not sure if that's normal.

Would you take the test here again?: It's not my first choice.

Date of Exam: June 2017

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Hello,

I came across a puzzling question while I was answering this reading comprehension question. Just to be clear, my question is more a question on formal logic than that of reading comprehension. I was wondering if the following two statements (ideas) have the same meaning.

Statement 1: Since courts cannot decide such cases on legal grounds, for its resolution, they must consider exercising judicial discretion.

Statement 2: Since courts cannot decide such cases on legal grounds, they rely for its resolution only on judicial discretion.

These two statements are statements that I edited and recreated from the passage to fit the description of my question that came across my mind regarding conditional logic (the first hybrid statement is located at lines 24 - 29 in the passage, and the second statement is a hybrid statement of answer choice D of question 14). Using conditional logic, it seems that in both cases exercising judicial discretion is the necessary condition for the resolution of the case [Statement 1 has "must" and Statement 2 has "only"]. However, just intuitively, the first statement seems to imply that while judicial discretion is necessary, there may be more. On the other hand, the second statement seems to imply that judicial discretion is THE one and only necessary condition....

Is there something I am missing? Is there maybe a subtle difference of meaning between necessary condition indicators such as "require/must/only if/etc," and the indicator of "only"?? Or is it maybe because the necessary condition for the first statement is "CONSIDERING judicial discretion" while the necessary condition for the second statement is JUST judicial discretion? They look like logical equivalents, yet they seem to imply two different things.... Any help would be great!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-4-passage-2-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-4-passage-2-questions/

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OMG THIS EXAM.

Okay yes, I get it, it's learnable. But holy shit is there so much to learn. It's like every time you understand something, you realize how much MORE THIS IS TO FREAKING UNDERSTAND. A 170 is possible for anyone...it's just the number of layers you're willing to peel back to get that score....and the months of your life you're willing to commit.

Like I hate it. But I love it because it's addicting. And I'm possibly going insane after the study-marathon I seem to be on.

Okay that's it.

Happy Wednesday :)

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Hello! I have been studying for the LSAT using 7sage for 1 month now, and I'm struggling to study efficiently. It's been personally difficult for me to watch videos, takes notes, and absorb the rules all at the same time. I wanted to get advice from others on their daily routines, how they approach tackling every section.

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In the 7Sage version of PT33 and in the Logic Games Bundle,

PT33.S4.Q14 (LG) says:

"most be true"

http://imgur.com/yPG9YaW

I paused for like three seconds figuring out what it means before realizing that this is a typo.

I think I found another one the other day, but I can't remember which PT it was from.

So please let me know if you find any typos so that @"7Sage Admin" can fix someday...

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How to describe the situation: No one in this house will go to the party.

A. In this house ------》-- go to the party

B. -- in this house -------》go to the party

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I took the June 2007 diagnostic last week and got a 167 on my first attempt. Which PT should I start with if I want to be ready for the September/December LSAT??

Is it better to start with the latest PTs? Any advice would be appreciated!!

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So I just sat PT 36 and got 167 - I'm stoked! My plan is to review every question I got wrong, re-do the logic games several times and then take a new PT. What else should I be doing in terms of reviewing and cementing material? I've got until September 17 and want to try and boost/ cement this scoring ability as much as possible.

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Hi everyone,

So i've been posting here semi-often these last two weeks as I work through the CC. I'm just over the 30% mark in material and I decided to take a timed LR section today. I took the June exam and got a 154 and the test we did at the beginning of CC got a 154 as well. I missed roughly -10/-11 on each LR section and even blind reviewed the same. Today I missed -11 and blind reviewed -8. Two questions I still felt foggy about, so I was ok with them being wrong. To say I was disappointed still is a bit of an understatement. I won't relive the gory details but I had a small kitten who has never seen anyone upset in my face and a friend show up with an entire container of ice-cream (I didn't eat the whole thing but I thought about it).

Can I do better by September? I feel so discouraged that this stuff just doesn't want to stick and even more upset that answers I felt like I could totally justify were plain wrong. I don't really want to postpone my exam to December for a multitude of reasons but I need a better score. I've just been doing the CC but should I start mixing in drilling? PTs? Timed PTs? I think I just need to put in more hours every week so if anyone if willing to give me a schedule to follow every day I will happily oblige.

Send help, good vibes, prayers to whoever you believe in, advice, funny memes, etc.

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Proctors: There were a bunch of proctors - maybe four? Only one woman read the instructions, the others just helped with passing out and collecting papers. I didn't notice any noise from them, but the woman keeping time gave the 5-minute warning early on one section, which really threw me off. She corrected it by giving a second 5-minute warning at the correct time, but it really made me freak out a bit since I thought my watch wasn't working properly and I was going to be screwed up for the rest of the test.

Facilities: Facilities were fine. Bathrooms were close enough, there was a water fountain nearby, the room wasn't too hot (although it was a bit chilly, it was perfect for me).

What kind of room: Lecture hall with auditorium seating.

How many in the room: 50-100

Desks: Flip-up tablet desks!!!! Seriously, these were so horrible! There wasn't even enough room to have the test booklet spread open, much less the test book and the answer sheet side-by-side.

Left-handed accommodation: There were left-handed desks available, and the proctors asked if you needed one as you entered.

**Noise levels:**Very quiet.

Parking: Parking was across the street at the closest.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30-45 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: As I mentioned above, the proctor gave the 5-minute warning early for one of the first sections.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely not. The tablet desks were crazy uncomfortable and I was super cramped. I feel sure that lowered my score, which ended up being -7 from my PT average. I really don't understand why any location would think that tablet desks are an acceptable way to hold the test, they're so insufficient!

Date of Exam: February 2017

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Hi Everyone,

This is my first time posting to the discussion board, but I have been following the CC and everyone's comments closely for a few months now. I really love this community! Thought I would reach out for some advice- I really need it.

I just took PT 36 last Saturday and scored a 168. My diagnostic before I went through the CC was a 157. Given that we have 6ish weeks left until the September test, how many PTs do you all recommend I take a week?

Also, I am retaking the exam (158 December 2016 score), so I have taken some PTs in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. Specifically, I know I have taken PT 72-78 already. I estimated I can do around 13-14 PTs in the coming weeks, and I am thinking maybe I should do 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, and 79. What do you all think? I can also redo sections in 72-78, but I don't know how much I will remember, so I am wary of taking them under testing conditions again.

Finally, I read that the later exams can be more difficult than the earlier ones. I think I remember noticing that last year to some extent. So, I do realize that this 168 score should be taken with a grain of salt, right? I am nervous to take 60 (for example), and not get the results I want (September is right around the corner!). But I guess I'm rambling at this point- nothing to do but find out!

Just need to get a grip on what PTs/how many would be best for maximum results! Also, how many days do you all take to practice concepts/shore up your weaknesses? Need to get into the PT/BR/Practice swing of things as efficiently as possible.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you everyone!

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