This is my random thought. If I could get the LSAT sections line up in an order. This is an order that I wish it would be LR RC LR LG or RC LR LR LG. My reasoning is simple. I want to save my best stuff to close up and finish well. Much like a baseball game. The last part would be like a pitcher who is an ace that strikes out a lot of batters to close off the game and preserve the lead. Or 4th section to put the strong homer run hitter that cleans up. My PTs have been for the last 18 PTs 180.

Except one or two where it would be 179. I am sitting for the June 2018 LSAT and feel like I am going to the World Series to win the whole enchilada. Some people hate and dread the LSAT. I love the LSAT.

Wondering if anyone has seen improvement in scoring after incorporating something like meditation, qi gong, yoga, vigorous exercise, or anything like that into their daily routine. I used to meditate everyday and I remember it helping me think clearly, which seems like it'd be helpful for the LSAT. What do you think? Does anyone feel like they can attribute positive results to something besides studying?

So I have been off the discussion forum for the most part while I was going through the CC but now I am ready to jump in and get some advice. I have been very embarrassed of my PT scores but I’ve realized I cannot improve if I don’t own them. I would like to think I am fairly intelligent but my test taking abilities have always been lacking to say the least. This is mostly due to my ADD but that wasn’t something I realized I had until after college so I am used to working hard to keep up with everyone else. Which I fully expect to do here because even though I will be requesting additional time, I plan on taking all of my PTs with regular time until my accommodations have been approved. Either way time is my enemy! I know a lot of people like to look at the clock and know how much time is left but honestly that hinders me more than anything. As soon as I hear 5 minutes are left all the questions I have left I can almost guarantee will be either left unanswered or incorrect. My ability to focus is thrown out the window and all I can think about is the clock ticking away. I have watched the webinar on Post CC Strategies but I could really use some advice on what I should focus on next. I am ready to start on fool proofing LG but after my BR I am not sure if that should be my focus right now. I actually really enjoy LG and other than reviewing conditional lawgic and working on timing, LG is actually my strongest section in my BR.

Some background info on my PTs; my diagnostic back in June 2016 was a 135. I actually reconsidered law school at that point but after some time spent reflecting I realized it is something I am really passionate about so I decided to try again. My second diagnostic in April 2017 was a 142. Both of these were done with Kaplan using PT56. Now I really didn’t want to take either score too seriously because I actually remember dozing off on one of them and guessing on some when the time was running out.

However here is my breakdown of my after CC PT I did this past weekend:

Original 1st BR 2nd BR

RC -17 -12 -10

LR -12 -5 -5

LG -11 -7 -2

LR -11 -7 -7

The reason you see a 1st and 2nd BR is because I only went over the questions circled in the 1st BR. I then scored the PT without looking at the answers and was not happy with a 157 BR score. So I went ahead and went back over the entire test and that is how I came to a 2nd BR score of 160. My plan is to now watch the explanations of the questions I got wrong. However, after I do that, I don’t know if I should go ahead with my original plan of fool-proofing LG or if I should focus on LR and RC first. What does everything think?

Also I do not plan on going to a t14 school nor do I expect my score to eventually be in the 170s. I want to focus on Child Advocacy and Juvenile Law and just want to get into school and get a scholarship. I’m hoping to get into Texas A&M and after doing research on people accepted and offered scholarships based off GPA and LSAT scores I believe a 160 should be good with my 3.38 GPA.

I really appreciate everyone for taking the time to read this :)

Long story short: I have been waitlisted at 5 schools. Sent 2 loci, visited. It's been 3 weeks with no answer. I want to keep in touch. Should I send a quick email? What should I say? Is it appropriate to send a transcript addendum?

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone has tips for LG on finding the floaters when you're just hit with a bunch of game pieces, usually like 8+ and then a bunch of rules that may or may not have mentioned these pieces. I know JY says to find the floaters each game, but I find that I'm spending more than I probably should to do this step each game, so if anyone has tips..

In addition, in many of the games, for questions you have to go back to the rules and see if they've been rendered irrelevant or if they trigger, on the videos JY just crosses out etc. But ofc we can't do that on paper, it was suggested that we cover it up with our hands but I find that's unhelpful esp when there's a bunch of rules. So does anyone have tips for some sort of systematic way to keep track of whether each rule was triggered/irrelevant for each question (when the question requires you to go back to the rules ofc not EVERY question) so that we don't just have every rule still staring at us while trying to eliminate those that don't matter. I do try to pare down rules and write them next to the Q when there aren't that many, so again, this Q is more for those games where there are just a ton of rules and you can't afford the time..

thanks so much in advance!

Hi guys! I've been taking practice LSATs at 168 with a BR score of 173. I'm trying to improve timing so I can get to that higher score. I just read something that said people wait to the end of a section to fill in the answer sheet. Whereas I just fill it in after every question I complete. I'd really appreciate your insights about whether waiting to fill it in saves you time or whether it increases error rate in the transfer process? Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone!

I hope you are all doing well.

I have been meaning to write this for a while now; however, I got very busy with exams. Now that I am all done, I really want to write a detailed post about my LSAT journey in hopes of inspiring someone else on here. There is a lot I want to say and I will try to organize everything in chronological order and in as much detail as I can.

To start off, the entire LSAT process and law school application process was very isolating for me. I did not know anyone that was applying or taking the LSAT. I had to be proactive throughout the process. Yes, mistakes were made, but I am glad I went through it no matter how difficult it got at times. I hope those reading and still going through the application/LSAT process will learn from my mistakes. And please do. Don't make this any harder than it has to be!

My very first post on here was some time last summer 2017, when I asked for help regarding improvements in my score. I did not seem to be making any improvements. I wasted so many tests studying the wrong way (no proper review following an exam and taking an LSAT every single day). By the time I realized this, I had already gone through tests 50-65~

Another big mistake I made was I took the September test without being ready. I went in thinking I'll be fine and maybe I'll end up with a really high score. Let's just say man... was I wrong, lol.

About 3 weeks after the September test, I decided to start from scratch and signed up for the February test. I started visiting many forums like the one on here, Reddit, and even TLS (to some degree) to get an idea on how people prepare. After reading a bunch of guides/advice, I started with LG and fool proofed games 52-80. I decided to stick with the newer tests and did no tests before PT 52. I am not sure whether that was a mistake or a good thing, but it turned out fine.

After semi-figuring things out, here was my plan, and yes, mistakes were STILL made (lol).

I fool proofed the games from PT 52 to 81. I did all of this in about one month. Yes, you read that right. One month. I was waking up at 5 am every day and doing nothing but the LSAT/school work all day until about 7-8 pm. I was literally fool proofing an entire LG section per day. And once I finished fool proofing tests 52 - 81, I did some games I found difficult again, which took more time.

After I was done fool proofing the games for the day, which would take approximately 3-4 hours depending on how easy I felt they were, I was alternating between an LR or RC section as my second section for that day AND blind reviewing it that same day... (I know, some of you may think that this already sounds like a bad idea).

After the BR, I would look up explanations for the answers I got wrong. I created a document which I organized by question types for LR and wrote down the conclusion, premise(s), wrong answer choice explanation and the correct answer explanation ALL IN MY OWN WORDS, followed by a "takeaway" I had learned from this question -- something to look out for the next time I see a question/idea like this.

I was taking classes during this time too. I am in my final year and I was also completing applications, which were due November 1st (Canadian deadlines). AFTER my LSAT work, depending on whether an essay was due soon or whether I had an exam or not, I would do schoolwork. I did not want to ruin my GPA that I worked so hard for over the past 3 years so I know I had to suck it up. And when I was not doing school work, I did a little bit of my law school applications.

I really enjoy playing video games and going to the gym; however, because of how stressed I was with the LSAT and how much of my day it was consuming, I sacrificed playing video game until I was done with the LSAT for good. But, I kept up with the gym as I knew how much it helped me to concentrate while studying. Sadly, I also did not have much of a social life. Based on the schedule I was working with (whichI know is bad), I pretty much did not see my friends until the LSAT was done either... another mistake.

Around mid December, I was legitimately starting to get frustrated with this schedule. I felt I was burning out, but there was only a month left and I pushed through. I tried to do whatever I could to help with the burnout... relax, take frequent breaks during the prep, listen to motivational talks from one of the best motivational speakers IMO (Greg Plitt), etc...

Fast forward to the February LSAT, I went in feeling VERY confident with the material but also feeling kind of burnt out. The week before the Feb LSAT, I literally stopped everything except LG and going over that long document of wrong answers I had created from LR sections I'd done in the past few months. The Feb LSAT went GREAT. I finished every section before the 35 minutes and I felt great. In particular, the LG also seemed very easy as I did not find one of those "misc" games on it, so that helped. After the Feb LSAT, I can't tell you how relieved I was; however, over the course of this LSAT journey, I was beginning to feel more and more stressed out at the fact that it was getting late in the cycle. Clearly my September score was not going to help me no matter how good my GPA was. I was getting worried that regardless of how strong my LSAT score is, I may not even get in as classes may have gotten filled up. I was also worried about not doing well. What if I had to do the LSAT again? I really don't think I would have had it in me to prepare AGAIN. I stopped thinking about things that I did not have to worry about though.

Fast forward a little bit more to when we finally got the scores, I was SO happy. I got a 169. The past several months of excruciatingly difficult prep and balancing school work were finally over. This score was good enough for every school in Canada and I was SO relieved.

And you must be wondering: what about the schools you applied to? Did you hear back? Yes, I did! I heard back from all the schools I applied to. You may consider this another mistake but I only applied to two of the top schools here, and yes, I know that is a risk, but it was a risk I was willing to take. I did not want to leave where I lived and I was happy going to either. I got the call from U of T one afternoon at the end of March and the next morning, I got an email from the other school, Osgoode. It was by far one of the happiest moments of my life. The journey was very difficult and I know I still made many, many mistakes and I hope whoever is reading this can really learn from it. There were many times I felt I was going to quit and just apply the next cycle, but I kept pushing. If I had to do it all over again, there are SO many things I would have changed.

Along this LSAT journey, there are many, many of you whom I messaged for help on LR or LG or RC and I cannot thank you all enough. I know I asked so many questions and it may have gotten annoying at times (I don't blame you). There are too many of you to list but you know who you are if you're reading this. Thank you, thank you, thank you. The community on here has been so supportive of me throughout the journey. No one turned me down when I asked for help. Everyone always made me feel welcomed. This was very important to me because despite not knowing anyone applying or taking the LSAT personally, I knew that I had an entire awesome community in 7Sage that is full of supportive individuals. And for those of you reading this who are also alone on this long journey: reach out to others. Dealing with this alone may only do you harm. Others WILL help you. I wish everyone here the best of luck on their LSAT/law school/life journey. We will all make it. DO NOT QUIT. I am strong believer in not thinking "what if" later in life because I know at that point, there is nothing I can do. I would have wondered "what if I pushed through that adversity? Would things have been different?" - regardless of the answer to that question, the outcome won't change anymore and that is something I really could not live with if it had happened. Be honest with yourself and keep working. Improvements are slow and what works for someone else may not work for you. Do things in the manner that they work for YOU. You know yourself best. And with that said, I think that ends my LSAT journey. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask! Also, sorry if this was a long post!

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO THE MOST SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY I HAVE KNOWN.

-LP

I'm sure this relates to the LSAT somehow...

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When I take timed sections/tests, I try to take my time and ignore the clock. Usually, I end up doing relatively well by focusing on accuracy rather than finishing on time (scoring in mid-high 160s). However, it is a bit discouraging knowing that when I blind review and take my time with all the questions, I get almost all questions correct. It's discouraging because I know my untimed potential, but it is completely different from my timed results. For background: this is the case with pretty much every section and I think I get stuck in the choices sometimes (especially for LR).

How did anyone with similar issues overcome them? How long did it take? Should I focus on being very strict with timing myself? Or, will I naturally get over the hump eventually?

Hello sagers. I am in doubt about this. I have a terrific GPA in undergrad. 3.85. My LSAT performance is dismal. I am thinking of accepting an offer from a school which accepts lower tiers LSAT and possibly transfer from there to my school of choice later. is that a good strategy? I don't want to lose anymore time on dreaming im going to do well on the LSAT. I really dont have time to study like many of you i must work for a living and its hard to find time, even tough i put at least 20 hours a week to study. im all over the place. sometimes i do well sometimes i do not so i really cant gauge my level of performance.....

i really want to put the lsat on my rearviewmirror and start law school asap. I know I will do well in law school. its my dream to be there and I will succeed, but the lsat is really pushing me back.

Should i persist on the LSAT or should i enroll in a school that is not really a choice.....and try to transfer.

What say you?

Any comments are welcome.

Is there any information I can glean from this language. Is it truly neutral? Just saw this on a status checker. Thanks.

Hi, so I took the first practice LSAT in the course (June 2007). I found that I'm very, very good at finding the right answers, but it takes me longer than 35 minutes. I was wondering if anyone else has been having this problem? When I don't try to answer everything in 35 minutes, I get only a few wrong. It's frustrating because the explanations to each answer make total sense to me, but I missed the question because i had to start rushing through my thought process in order to fit them in 35 minutes.

Hi everyone,

I recently joined the ultimate+ course after using the "lawschooli Mastermind" program for about 6 months (wish I had found 7sage earlier). Although I did establish a solid foundation on all aspects of the LSAT using the Mastermind program, I still have a few significant gaps in learning. I have already signed up for the June 2018 test and can still take it if I choose. As of right now, I am not PTing in my desired score range of at least 165. Since I am not a complete beginner at the LSAT, I plan on using the September 2018 test as my new date (assuming my PT score follows).

Would it be a bad idea to take the June 2018 test, knowing that I am not PTing in my desired range, in order to get over the feeling of taking the real test? (Basically overcoming "1st test anxiety") Since my plan is to be fully prepared by September I want the September test to go as smoothly as possible. Basically my idea for taking the June test would be to see what doing the real thing feels like apart from my full PT testing practice. Should I take the June test, knowing I am not as prepared as I should be, OR wait until September when I am hopefully PTing in my desired score range? Any advice is appreciated!

Made this after a recent foray into LR practice.

My BR and Actual Scores are the same for the last 3 PT's! I take my PT on Saturdays and BR for about 1 hour per section...Except for Reading Comp. I don't know how to BR that section....Anyway. I've improved A LOT since I started (135 to 154) since taking the December test. I want to get to 160 but I don't know what I'm doing wrong in my BR's.

#help

Does anyone have any solid examples of an excel sheet they put together to help track their progress other than the analytics feature that comes with our package? I can shoot someone my email if need be..

Greetings, my new friends,

I am excited to explore 7Sage and get to know you. This Fall I will start final year of undergraduate and I want to start studying the LSAT this summer.

I work about 58 hours a week and on a given day I may have one or two 30-45 minute periods of free time that I can use to study. Does anyone have any schedule or approach suggestions that might be helpful to me this summer as I begin my LSAT journey? I am doubtful that I can find two hours a day to study at this point...

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Trevor

My house is filled to the brim with distractions, and at times I go to a local cafe to study for hours on end, but I'm debating whether it is worth it to go to a place with less distraction for more focused studying, or should I stay put at home and practice testing despite loud noises, conversations and a great deal of general noise outside? Any and all strategies are appreciated.

Hi guys, I haven’t been able to find the answer to this, so I’ll post it here. I’m about a year and a half away from my bachelors and I want to start LSAT Prep, but know I won’t be able to tend to it daily. Do these courses expire after a certain amount of time after purchasing?

Hey guys, so I recently decided to postpone from taking the June 2018 to June 2019. Now with all this extra time on my hands I'm trying to figure out how to pace myself. I've been studying about 2 hours/day during the week and 3 hours/day on weekends (working full time + two kids). I want to start with the CC and then once I work through it upgrade to the Ultimate package, but I'm also seeing talk of the Trainer by Mike Kim? Any advice on what rate to pace myself at as to not run out of preptests, go too slowly as to not be actively involved, and also if purchasing the Starter now and upgrading as I progress throughout the next 14 months?

Backround: my diagnostic is 157, the highest I've scored is 161, I want high 160s to low 170s (or higher obv.)

I wanted to gauge an unscientific poll. Let's say you graduated law school and graduated at the top of your class and you pass the bar exam at the top scorers. Let's say you had a big bankroll to support you for the rest of your life, and you still yearn to practice law regardless how much dinero you had.

I will start. I will say country lawyer for myself where I don't have the stress of living in the city and serve the same clients in a small town. Go ahead and post your opinion. There are no right or wrong answers.

16personalities.com

There is a lot of good criticism of the personality test, but I still think it's interesting to discuss..esp. in ctxt of the LSAT. Wondering if certain personality types (like analysts) actually tend to do better on the LSAT. I found very limited data with a google search. Thought the forum could be a good place to talk about it, criticize the test, and perhaps get into a nature vs. nurture debate :)

-Sam

I am having difficulty with strengthen/weaken questions and noticed that Nicole Hopkins' webinar on Strengthen and Weaken questions from two years ago was mentioned in numerous threads. Is there a way to access that webinar or is there a webinar currently available that is similar to the one she created? Thank you!

Do you guys have any recommendations on standing desks i could get in law school. Extended times of sitting increases likelihood of developing cardiovascular issues. Do you have any tips on how to focus while reading and standing up?