When folks on this forum reference their progress through the CC, does this generally include the full range of problem sets"

I ask because my method thus far has been to only complete 1-3 of these sets for each section, in order to preserve some of these for later drilling. Furthermore, I'm wondering your thoughts on how important it would be to complete the FULL CC (including all the problem sets) before begining to PT?

Again my whole reasoning for saving the problem sets was to preserve them after I discover my weaknesses via PT'ing.

Thanks!

I've been studying for a really long time. I assume I'm burnt out because things that are "easy" are becoming really really really hard. I cannot focus and I get furious when I'm done drilling a section. I'm missing way more questions in LR than I have in REALLY long time. Frankly, I'm fucking mad at this test right now and I know that feeling that way isn't helping. I want to take a break, but I don't know what to do during the break and it's making me anxious. Should I just take a break from LR and work on games or RC. Should I work on like law school essays or something? My schedule is such that I work part-time as tutor M-Th 3-7pm and I don't like the idea of just being lazy and waking up late and waiting for work to start. What do I do? How long of a break should I take? Please save me from myself lol

Would it be possible if we could delete past posts and comments?

http://awealthofcommonsense.com/2018/03/making-it-look-easy-is-hard-work/

Interesting article about how successful comedians perfect their craft...all I could think while reading the article was how similar it is to effective LSAT preparation.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2019-usnwr-rankings/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Irvine please respond to me! Lol

Is there any way to aggregate and then print questions from different preptests on a single document? I'd really like to create a workbook of questions I get wrong for use at a later date but am not sure how to organize those questions.

Thanks

Has anyone ever been in the initial review completed- no decision made situation ? It also states that the decision will be made later in cycle. This confuses and frustrates me, since it's my top choice school.

Quick question: what's the difference? Also do you address a director as "dean" like if someone's title is "Assistant Director of Admissions Barney Purple" Do you say "Dean Purple"?

Finding a job as an actress on Broadway after the Wall Street Crash of 1929:

https://imgur.com/zKMfNHt

I noticed my Michigan law application didn’t have my extra par of extracurriculars and activities so I sent in an addendum as instructed over the phone by the admissions office. THEN I noticed that my attachment was incorrect so I sent another one out in a panic, saying here’s the correct PDF- my apologies.

I feel so stupid! Am I screwed? I know I sound crazy right now

For all those taking in July - registration is now live. Good luck getting a coveted test center!

https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/testdateweb.pdf

Does anyone know which of these tests will be non-disclosed/ disclosed?

September 8, 2018 (Sat)

November 17, 2018 (Sat)

January 26, 2019 (Sat)

March 30, 2019 (Sat)

June 3, 2019 (Mon)

July 29, 2019 (Mon)

I'm guessing the September 2018 and June 2019 tests will stay disclosed.

I think the March 2019 test (as a substitute for February?) and July 2019 test (assuming the July 2018 test is indicative of this) will be non-disclosed.

I'm mostly concerned about the November 2018 and January 2019 Tests.

Assumptions are welcome (if necessary). lol...

Thanks :)

Hey all,

Do you think after an interview you should be sending thank you e-mails to the person who interviewed you? (even if it was over Skype)?

I just finished my core curriculum and it’s practice sets .

I am not sure if I should do the prep test as I planned due to I got more than half wrong in most of the 4-5stars LR questions ! Can anyone give me some advices? Should I review fundamental again or do prep test instead? Thanks for the answers in advance !

Hey there everyone. Hope you’re studying is going well. I work full time (M-F/8-6) and just started my LSAT study. Not married, no kids. Is it too soon for me take the June exam? Is 3.5 months adequate time considering my work schedule? Should I spread my study out over 5.5 months and take the September exam?

Hi Guys,

How long does it normally take to receive your scores after you take the LSAT?

If I were to take the newly offered July test date, would that mean that I would be applying to schools before I even knew how well I had done on the test? Any insight, advice, and/or thoughts would be appreciated!!

Thanks!

Charlie

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I’ve benefited greatly from the 7sage course and community, so I’d like to contribute a few lessons learned from this all-too-often infuriating process.

I did minimal research before going all-in on 7sage in March 2017. The design of the course and the feedback from previous students just clicked instantly, so I didn’t hesitate.

I tried to use the June ‘07 test as a diagnostic, but I found that I was so lost when doing the logic games that I just gave up. I imagine I would have been in the 150s at best at that time.

I went through the vast majority of the CC from March-June before taking my first PT. I scored a 163 on PT 36 (timed, 4 sections). I was aiming for 175+ from the beginning to make up for a relatively low GPA (for top schools at least), so I knew I had a good deal of work ahead of me.

I studied an average of 20 hours per week (2-3 hours per work day and 5-10 hours on the weekend) from July through February. That was a combination of finishing the CC, consulting outside resources, drilling/foolproofing, and timed sections and PTs.

I signed up for the September 2017 exam before I was PTing in my desired range because I thought I would make progress more quickly on games than I did. I was really struggling with games overall, but I ended up doing fine on games and getting MURDERED by RC for a 169.

I learned from that experience and dove right into prep for December. I made a lot of progress, but I was studying right up until test day on top of my full time job and ended up mis-bubbling (probably due to exhaustion) for a 167. I moped for a day before resolving to learn from that experience, too.

I kept on working on my weaknesses and focused more on realistic test-day conditions. My PT average slowly crept up to 174 by February, and after taking the whole week before the exam off from anything LSAT-related I lucked out a bit and scored 175, 1 point above my average.

Here are a few things I learned along the way:

Saying that you can do all the problems but just have trouble with timing is like a sprinter saying they would have won the race if they had just gone a bit faster.

There is plenty of value in doing untimed studying and drills when learning the fundamentals. However, it’s important to transition to strict timed conditions as soon as possible, because how you deal with the time constraint is just as important as how well you understand any of the concepts that are being tested.

For an 8 month period I put the LSAT before work, family, friends, fitness, and (especially) recreation.

Getting 20 hours of LSAT prep on top of a 40-hour work week and the rest of daily life was not easy. Everything else went into maintenance mode. I guarded my time religiously- no extra assignments at work, one night out with my partner per week, limited time at the gym, no television, and very little of the reading that I typically enjoy.

20 hours of LSAT prep is not the equivalent of a part-time job in terms of energy- it’s much, much more. After a 35-minute logic games section, especially when I was struggling with them more, I would practically be gasping for breath. That level of focus and concentration is required for me to perform at my best, but it’s also extremely draining.

I used toggl, an online time tracker, to track the amount of time I was actually spending on LSAT prep down to the minute. I also tracked other areas of my life so I could see where I could carve out more time for my #1 priority.

I’ve read that the LSAT is as much a test of emotions as it is of intelligence, and that strikes me as true in my case. Putting in hours and hours and hours of prep over weeks and months only to see miniscule improvement (or even regression like when I went from 169 to 167) will make you question your sanity.

Nothing in my life made it reasonable to presume that I would eventually hit 175. I didn’t score that high on the SAT, I did ok in college, and I’ve been out of school for more than a decade. I was just hoping that I could get there, and that took an awful lot of faith.

Rather than get hung up on any particular section or PT, I focused on slow, steady improvement. I took it on faith that if I put in the time and studied the right way, I would get better at the test. I paid particular attention to my PT average over my previous 5 PTs, and the analytics from 7sage made it easy to know where I should be focusing my time (both between LR, LG, and RC and even down to what question types).

I enjoyed the CC and benefited from it greatly. Once I had the basics down, I got the most benefit from taking full, timed sections and, especially, 5-section PTs under test day conditions, followed by Blind Review.

If I could change one thing about my approach, I would have taken more 5-section PTs using the 7sage proctor. Mental (and even physical) fatigue is a real barrier to performing your best on test day, and that didn’t really sink in for me until I was preparing for my 3rd take.

I think the teaching methodology employed by 7sage is absolutely fantastic. So many times during my study I chose to accept 7sage’s approach without fully understanding at the time why it was necessary. Blind Review, Foolproofing games, and the focus on language and grammar are 3 good examples.

At the same time, no group course will be perfect for any given individual. I supplemented 7sage’s course with a number of LSAT books, partly because I wanted to add a different learning modality but also to fill in some gaps in my understanding. I don’t know if I should mention those resources here, but they probably made up 10-20% of my study and 7sage the vast majority.

I also went against the typical advice of only signing up for the exam when you’re PTing at or above your goal score. I did so because I wanted to learn from the test experience itself, and also because there is a fairly significant range of scores that are possible at any given level of ability, and there’s always the chance that you’ll score at the top or bottom of that range.

I took the test 3 times. Once I was right on my PT average (169/169), once I was well below it (167/172), and once I was just above it (175/174). It’s possible that I could have hit the mark on my 2nd test, and it’s also possible that I could have missed the mark on my 3rd test. There’s no way to account for every single variable that determines your score on test day, so I chose to give myself more chances and that paid off.

I think I’m also going against conventional wisdom by re-taking the exam for a 4th time in June. Most of what I’ve read online says that being at or above a school’s 75th (as 175 is for every school) is all that matters, but I see a material difference in outcomes for people with my GPA and a 175 vs 176-180, so I’m giving it one more shot. No ragrets and all that.

Well, I’ve got a PT to review so I’ll wrap things up here. Sorry if I rambled a bit, I’m still coming to grips with a life-changing score. Happy to answer any questions. Best of luck to everyone just starting out or still grinding away!

My wife and I were talking about her career during our evening dog walk. She has recently gotten a few nibbles from head hunters looking to steal her from her community outreach clinic and place her into a private practice setting. I asked her what she was thinking. She responded with, "the money would be a whole lot better but I wouldn't be able to help the population that I want to serve". The large majority of her patients are substance abuse mental health patients with low/no income.

I laughed and said that although I totally agree with how she feels, I apparently cannot say "I want to help out under-served populations" when admissions people ask me why I want to be lawyer. She said, "why not". I said, "I have no idea".

Why can't people want to be lawyers just to be able to help the less fortunate through the legal system? I have sat down with a local public defender and discussed his job at length. It sounds exactly like what I hope my career would look like.

Are there other professions in which feeling a call to service is seen as a less than desirable reason to enter?

Hey all,

I'm having some real trouble interpreting LSAC's policies regarding international transcripts. I figured I would post the question here to see if anyone else has had a similar situation.

I will try to explain my situation, and then explain how I am interpreting LSAC's policies as detailed on this page (https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/international-transcripts) of the LSAC website.

My situation:

During my undergraduate career, I studied abroad in the People's Republic of China for 2 academic semesters. For one semester, I was an exchange student, meaning that my American university was sponsoring my study abroad. The other semester was not sponsored by my university. The two semesters were not completed at the same institution. I completed 21 credit hours of work during these two semesters, less than 1 year (24 credits) at my home university.

The transcripts from both semesters have been submitted and processed by my undergraduate institution, and appear on my transcript as transfer credits.

My interpretation:

Because,

1.My undergraduate institution is located in the United States, and

2. My study abroad was equivalent or less than 1 years worth of undergraduate study, and

3. (at least some) of my work was completed through an overseas study program clearly sponsored by U.S. school

Therefore, I am NOT required to submit each individual transcript from these institutions.

Is this a correct interpretation? I am confused in part because of the bullet points under the "People's Republic of China" heading on the website. Does this heading imply that all transcripts from institutions in the People's Republic of China must be submitted regardless of length or whether or not they were sponsored?

If anyone has any insight for this, please let me know. If I have to get individual transcripts, it's going to be a several month process...

Hey does anyone have any links to informative websites discussing the waitlist process and what to do. Also I'm looking for help regarding LOCI; any samples to read from? Thanks.

Hello everyone, I’m currently a full-time undergraduate in my 3rd year of uni and am determined to take the lsat next summer. However, I really need some advice regarding how I should plan this journey. Should I start from taking one of the prep tests or from studying powerscore series? And which category should I start with? I am immensely clueless about where to begin with, please help!!

Just want to reach out and see who would be interested in meeting up to take timed exams on Saturday mornings in Chicago? I have a car and can drive to most places to meet. I'm sure we could find a quiet place or library and have a timer (or the 7Sage online proctor) on the table while we take the exam together. I know I usually struggle getting up every Saturday morning to take a timed PT, but being able to sit for one in a group would make it much more likely for me to accomplish and make me better prepared for test day. I'm sure I'm not the only one struggling with timing and taking timely PTs. I'm also open to meeting people throughout the week to do in person BR for the PT we completed.

I'm registered for the June 2018 administration and am gunning for that test date. I'm pretty close to my target score, but absolutely need to start working on timing and details.

I took December and February lsat. I started applying with my December score. Golden Gate's aggressive email advertising and fee waiver made me apply there. I wanted to send a first-tester app, to a low rank school, just to give the process a dry run. Well, I got in with my fIrst score, almost full ride, and pre admitted for their honor student program... I took February lsat, but decided not to check my score. Apps are sent, schools know.

Now, the question is: would you consider going to a no-rank school for free? Would finding a job be an issue? Any of you with similar experiences?

How many times have you all taken the real LSAT ?