I was wanting to apply for Fall 2019, but I'm not sure what my chances will be at the T14. I did look at the predictor and was quite discouraged. I am hoping to score better on the LSAT on Saturday, but highly considering cancelling it. It's strange because I do get 170 as my BR score, but I am struggling to make it my real score. Any suggestions? Should I just try it and see what I get on this exam, or should I just wait another cycle? I am pretty set on Top 14 though, preferably Michigan or Northwestern.

The school requires 2 LORs.

The total number of required documents is 2.

The school will only accept up to 3 LORs.

The total number accepted cannot exceed 3.

Accepts letters of recommendation when the initial law school report is ready to be sent and when LSAC has received at least 2 letters of recommendation.

The law school report will be updated and sent each time LSAC receives a letter of recommendation.

Does this mean that if I'm waiting on one more professor for a letter (I've assigned two letters {which is the number required for this specific app} to this application. Only one of them is received. But waiting on another), and I submit my application now without having my professor having uploaded my letter -- the professor can upload it later and the law school report will update it?

Basically what I am asking lol is if I can go forth and pay the application fee and submit my application, even without one of the letters assigned being received yet?

I get tripped up whenever I see a word I have never encountered before. Words such as unimpeded, unadulterated, ephemeral, impartial etc..

First, can someone post the link to where we have a selection of difficult words that typically appear on the LSAT. I remember it being somewhere in the curriculum.

Second, how do you handle a situation where you see a word and you don't understand the meaning ? It could lead to choosing the wrong answer, simply because of the misinterpretation of a word.

Taking suggestions on the following dilemma:

I started studying in late June - I worked through 1 lesson per day of the LSAT trainer, did the prescribed drills, and completed that in about 2 months. From there I have done mostly timed sections (all of 72-81) and 62-68; however, I have only taken approximately 5 or 6 full length exams. I started at a 143 cold diagnostic and my scores are 156, 154, 158, 161, and 154. I got logic games down to avg -4 (some later PTs killed this average with the miscellaneous games). I feel confident there now. I do not feel confident in LR although I feel much more prepared than I did 1 month ago.

Here's the dilemma - I am taking the test Saturday. My goal when this all started was to get a 162. I really would like to start law school next fall and not wait a whole year; however, I absolutely know I am capable of a significantly higher score than what I will get on Saturday.I really think I can get 170+ if I did the 40 plus tests took all the time, but is it worth waiting another year? I am 25, turn 26 in March, and a life underwriter (risk selection for a big company) so work is very draining - lots of reading and critical thinking throughout the day. So, studying has felt rushed and stressful. Money is also a big factor in this equation due to lots of undergrad debt from a private institution.

If I take the nov test and continue to study for the January, do you all think that 10ish weeks would be sufficient to get to the 165 mark? Obviously I am nowhere close to the prescribed 40 PTs though. So say I'd do 1 PT per weekend for 10 weeks and some sort of light drill work during the week on LR. Do you think that would give me a good shot at 165?

This is incredibly scattered and non linear - forgive me for that. I'm in full stress/evaluation mode.

Thanks for feedback.

-P

what do people think of digital?

I am (re)taking lsat this Saturday and I am starting to worry if pt 84 and 85 indicate an increase in difficulty in lsat. It seems like people have a consensus that 84 has a tough RC, and 85 has a super tricky LR, but neither of them has a generous curve. Both of my scores from these two tests are ~5 points below my pt average. Or....maybe I am just overthinking and panicking about this coming exam?

Hi everyone!

I need help deciding on which two prep-tests I should take before the November exam! My last prep-test was #84 and it made me drop 7 points :( I've read that exam was difficult for a lot of people, so since my confidence has taken a hit, definitely not a preptest that is tooo hard, something of average diffculty. Don't want to lose all my confidence before the actual exam haha. I'm trying to pick between 78-82 so it's more recent. What do yall think? The last three I took were 83, 84, and 85.

Thanks for reading!

Sarah

Remember! They've changed their policy since September about identification. It now has to match exactly with what you inputted for LSAC.

My name is not standard, and although I always write my name as one word, government offices always separate my name into two parts. So I had to update my profile to match my ID exactly last week. Make sure you guys do the same!

They say it takes 3-5 days for them to get back to you, but in my case, they updated my name in minutes after I sent the email, so I think they're trying their hardest to accommodate people who have to make changes in response to the change in policy.

Just a PSA~ Talk to you all after Saturday. =)

Which watch should I get for Saturday? I think I saw a video of a watch that rotated on the top, if that makes sense. I'm not sure if that one is still allowed. Which watch are you guys using? Please provide links if you can! Thank you!

I was approved for the accommodation of testing in a private/low distraction room for the Nov 17th test. Less than a week from the test, the LSAT still hasn't confirmed where I will be taking my test. I've called a couple of times, and just keep getting the same response "You will receive an email when we have confirmed your accommodations." This is super stressful since I don't know if I'm going to need to make travel arrangements based on where I end up taking it, or whether they will be able to confirm them at all!

Does anyone else have experience with this? Should I be worried about the possibility that I may not be able to take my test under accommodated conditions at all since I still haven't heard back with my confirmation letter?

I so appreciate any advice -- this is stress I was really hoping to avoid the week before the test!

Procrastinator here :) How many hours are you guys actually committing to studying daily? Seeing the commitment from others will make me feel inferior...and up my game! THANKS!

I don't know if this helps, but sometimes, I think of events in life as my dying act. You know the saying: live every day like it's your last? Corny, and perhaps morbid, but if used correctly, I think it can help us focus our mental energy. For example, the LSAT: if the LSAT were the final act in my life, it would matter not to me whether I achieve a certain score; instead, what would matter to me would just be that I tried my best. The goal in life is to find contentment and satisfaction, and all that really requires is just knowing we did what we could. The score is unchangeable, and meaningless in this scenario, since I would be long gone.

This perspective helps to treat the test as an end for its own sake, and not merely as a means to something else, even if it so clearly is. This perspective also helps to divide big goals into smaller steps so we can focus on one thing at a time. This exercise is a classic buddhist meditation, and I assume is part of the reason why some monks are so chilled about everything. I hope it can help you.

I thought I’d take some time to write this out for you. It’s becoming clear that the LSAT is a good reflector of Law School success for so many reasons that extend beyond just the “logic” of the test. I feel many of these things go overlooked, but are important to keep in mind.

1.) There is NO handholding in law school. They will throw you into the fire right away. It is 100% on you to sit down, sift through all the information being thrown at you, and pick out important take aways. You need to learn how to learn the law on your own.

This is much like what we have to do on the lsat. We are presented with an unfamiliar type of test in which you need to figure out what it is you are suppose to be learning. You have to learn how to learn logic. It’s very much a personal challenge that you have to devlop through on your own. Just like law school.

2.) the way to prepare for finals is to take practice tests and make outlines. You have to dedicate weekends to work on outlines and take full practice tests. This is one big way to prepare for finals. You need to have the discipline to work on your time off.

This is exactly what you do with the lsat. If you want to be successful on that test you need to tell your friends “no” to going out all the time. You need to take a significant amount of your own free time to sit down and do the LSAT. If you can do that, it is an indicator you have the potential to be successful.

3.) you have to want it. Law school doesn’t come easy and it is easy to let the work “slip” into the back seat. Doing the readings, staying on top of office hours, and briefing cases can become easy to “put off”. If you put it off until finals come you’re screwed. Cramming in law school is just not an option.

Which is exactly like the lsat. You can’t cram for that test. It just doesn’t work like that. You need time to develop the understanding of the logic and how to properly spot and apply it. Just like the law where you have to learn to spot issues and apply the law. The parallel is uncanny.

These are just a few of the parallels I notice so far. So when you hear that the lsat “isn’t even what we learn in law school” it’s because that is looking at it wrong. It’s not the subject matter that the LSAT tests, it’s your ability and desire to learn subjects that are largely unfamiliar and your dedication to that pursuit.

Keep at it 7Sage, you will be successful!

Back to Civ Pro reading.....

I know this seems bizarre, but I am consistently doing better on RC sections that I drill online rather than ones I have printed out from the official PTs... The only explanation I can come up with is that the printed RCs are always tiny and really dark, which makes it harder to read, which may in turn be reducing my comprehension and speed. Does anyone else experience this difference?

Anyone have any thoughts on how this law suit will affect law school admissions? If the plaintiff's win, will it only affect undergraduate institutions? How immediately will that change URM admissions? Will it change it at all? Race is an evident part of many people's identity, and can be written all over their application. Will diversity be something schools won't promote? Because diversity doesn't always involve race. I'm very curious about this case. I'd love to hear what you guys are thinking.

Since the Mastermind watch is banned, I need a watch very quickly in time for the exam on Saturday. I had purchased one from Kohl's but it is too loud. Does anyone know where to get a silent watch??

Is there actually a difference in exam difficulty in regards to the month. I heard June exams tend to be quite harder than other exams. And the December exams can tend to be easier. I feel that when I take a June exam its always a lot rougher on me. What do you guys think?

Hey guys, I'm taking the LSAT for the 2nd time this Saturday and was looking for some advice on keeping time. The first time around, I had a really hard time seeing the clock in the classroom and I was always 1-2 minutes off on when I thought the section would end on my watch - which is ultimately what ended up hurting my score, since I would be scrambling to finish a section that I thought I had more time for.

While studying for this one, I've been practicing resetting my analog watch to the top of the hour at the beginning of each section so it's easier to see when 35 minutes is up. It only takes about 3 seconds to reset and it's been a huge help for me to keep track of time. Have any of you had luck trying this approach? Will I get in trouble with the proctors if they see me adjusting my watch in between each section? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

I an taking the March 2018 LSAT. My diagnostic was a 150 and my goal is 168-170. I know 7sage suggests 1yr of studying but I have to take the march LSAT for the program I am appying to. My weakest subject during the diagnostic was LG, but after blind review I got them all right, so timing is my biggest issue. What is the best way to attain my goal considering im a student and dont have 40hrs a week to study?

7Sage’s first lesson in the core curriculum is: the LSAT is hard. I recently reread this lesson and wanted to add some thoughts: especially for people who might not have gotten the score they desired from the most recent administration of the exam or who are currently struggling to hit their goals.

An elite score on the LSAT has the potential to be worth $100,000 in scholarship money. This is a ton of money. To give some perspective: the average winner of an episode of Jeopardy wins about $12,000. Years of memorizing facts and figures ranging from everything from state capitals, flags, quotes from literature, pop culture references and even physics comes down to 21 minutes of rapid fire questions and an average award of $12,000. A person who wins Jeopardy has undoubtably spent years-decades even- collecting knowledge and fashioning skills for that moment.

What’s worse is that if that person wants to win what an elite LSAT score can provide them: they have to win 8 times in a row, this against 8 different pairs of equally qualified, equally hungry people who have been preparing equally hard for the next 21 minutes.

For what it’s worth, Uncle Sam will then take roughly 25% of their earnings. Which means the person who wants to win the equivalent of what an elite LSAT score can afford them must win about 11 straight games against a total of 22 other equally qualified, equally hungry people who have been studying a lifetime for the next 21 minutes!

So what we have here when we draw these parallels, is a reassertion that what an elite school can afford us is quite amazing and therefore it shouldn’t be surprising that the LSAT is hard. More specifically: that an elite score on the LSAT is hard. But, inch by inch progress can come and with the right study schedule, discipline and a supportive community: progress will come.

But, when you’re in the thick of RC or LG drilling or cracking necessary assumption question patterns, don’t get down if your score is not increasing quickly or linearly, for many test takers, it will be a laborious process. This thing is supposed to be hard and sometimes we lose sight of that, especially on the internet, where it seems like everyone has a high score. I think given some perspective on what an elite score can provide a test taker, it’s really no surprise: the LSAT is hard! Hang in there!

David

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/the-lsat-is-hard/

I've been pretty much hitting my goal and maintaining my goal score with my twice-a-week preptests and my last two were low. Second to last was low and most recent (yesterday) even lower. I'm freaking, now that I am so close to the test. Why is this happening now? I was experiencing a bit of pain and sinus pain during both tests, I don't want to rely on those excuses... Thoughts?

I am taking the July LSAT. I just took PT 84 and my score dropped significantly. I went from scoring up to 175 to mid 160s. RC was my worst section. I had RC down to -3 or less but this was just bad. Don't know how to feel about this.

Hey guys!

I'm just wondering if I may receive some advice. I've been feeling a little unmotivated to study lately.

This is due to a variety of reasons.

Being sick.

Anxiously waiting for an exam score.

Girl issues, staying single, and trying to move on. (Honestly this is my biggest issue about my life, and it's kinda sad because it doesn't seem like the biggest issue ever to most people, but I have a GPA boosting semester so it's easy to have time to think, and I placed it like this for my entire junior year to work on the LSAT, but lately this one person's been in my thoughts really often and I prefer to get it out of my mind because I'm trying to focus on LSAT and goto Law School.)

Anyone got advice to get more motivation?

Anyways, thanks y'all!!

Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well :)

Burnout hit me pretty hard after the September test and I haven't studied more than 20 hours total in the last 2 months. I am scheduled for this weekend's administration but I don't feel strong. My PT average is one point above my target score but I haven't taken a PT under timed conditions since before the September test. My performance in September was -6 my PT average and I honestly felt better going into that administration that I do about this one.

My gut is telling me to give up on this cycle and prepare to retake in June but probability seems to favor taking in November since my PT average is above my goal score and taking now could theoretically push up my law school start date by an entire year. Obviously it's a gamble and unlikely that I hit my PT average on test day given the 2.5 month break from prep, but the upsides are pretty solid. That being said, I realize that life goes on and that I probably won't be any more or less happy taking a year off as I am a k-jd student and only 22 years old.

Try to put yourself in my position as I am still on the fence about taking the test this weekend and there is a lot of exterior pressure to start law school ASAP that I feel might be clouding my better judgement here.

I was hoping to get some advice:

I've completed most of the course and am scheduled to begin taking 3-4 PTs/week until the January exam. I understand the blind review method, but I wanted to ask if you think it is ineffective to review and study each and every questions (including those I was 100% confident in) rather than only those I got right by chance, or questions I skipped/ran out of time for.