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Hey guys!

So I am almost done the CC, hopefully by the end of this week. I was just wondering how many of you have approached the next step in your studying? I have done most problem sets for the question types, however I have found myself struggling or not getting as many correct as I would like for some question types when it came to the three or four star questions. Is this common or is it just me and how did you guys over come this?

I plan to write in December and want to aim for the high 160s. I have not completed a PT yet (other than the diagnostic), but I intend on doing that once I am done the CC just to see if there's an improvement.

So basically, what I am trying to ask I guess is...

How have you started to PT after the CC?

What was your study schedule after completing the CC?

Did you do 3 preptests a week? with BR after each PT

or Drill as much as I can after the CC (too fool proof all sections) and then start PT's more frequently?

or drill along with doing 2 PT's a week?

My schedule is pretty flexible, but I just want to know what has worked for you guys!

Thanks! :)

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Just wondering if the font size of the actual test is the same as when I print 7sage PTs?

The font size of the 7sage PTs are slightly smaller than the font on PTs from official LSAC books/resources (as least in my opinion).

Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks!

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If a test is going to accurately predict the capability of one to be a great law student, then a test must accurately assess the ability of one to master skills that enable one to be a great law student. The LSAT fails this necessary condition.

We all know that certain practice tests play to our particular skills, and thus all of our scores fluctuate a little (or a lot). Even with our renowned Sages, some of them were averaging much higher than the 170 score that they were able to scrape by with. If we are able to put so much effort into studying for this test, and yet our scores still fluctuate significantly, then how can this test be an accurate assessment of our skills?

We've all been there. Every once in a while, you encounter a test and your score suddenly drops. You are shocked. How could this happen? Perhaps you just had a bad day. But it is also possible that this particular tests did not align with your particular skills. But wait, shouldn't this test always be assessing the ability of the same skills?

I have sympathy for LSAC, I really do. Designing such a test would be daunting, especially if you add in the fact that some people are able to spend thousands on test prep and take time off work/school to focus solely on the test while others must fit it time before and after work with only minimal resources to spend on prep. But still, the LSAT fails.

As you can probably guess, I am writing this out of frustration. I have put so much time into studying, have been within the 168-172 range for months, and suddenly, I scored a 164 on a test just a week from test day. I guess for confidence's sake, I should just write it off as a fluke or a bad day. But the truth is, law schools have become reliant on a test that really just isn't a great predictor of being a great law student. With law schools beginning to accept the GRE, I think the test needs to be revamped significantly in order to stay relevant.

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Hi everyone,

As my test center is going to be receiving a direct eye hit from the storm, I'm beginning to prep for a test center change. Anyone have suggestions for test centers that are near air ports? Besides studying, this is the only thing I can do to battle storm-LSAT stress. I would prefer east coast and was thinking Atlanta or DC!

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During all of my practice tests, I found that it takes me a bit to warm up (always doing best on my last section in comparison to my other sections), and so I started to create a music playlist to help me "wake up" and get in the right mindset for the LSAT. If anything, it helps put me in a better mood at the very least. I have to drive a bit to get to the testing location, so I'm looking for recommendations.

On my current playlist are just a mishmash of different songs:

"The Fire" - Kina Grannis

"How Far I'll Go" - Auli'i' Cravalho

"Till It's Gone" - Yelawolf

"My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light Em Up)" - Fall Out Boy

"Bleed it Out" - Linkin Park

"Without Me" - Eminem

"'Till I Collapse" - Eminem, Nate Dogg

"Power" - Kanye West

Stronger" - Kanye West

Ultimately, if you just have time for one song to listen to right before the LSAT, I definitely recommend the last song and good luck to other fellow September LSAT test takers!!

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I'm curious if there are any ways to "identify" the experimental section. I feel like after taking so many exams, doing so many questions etc. I will be able to have a feel for which one it might be - thoughts?

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Recently took PTs A, B, and C2 (3 of the 4 released February exams that I know of). Scored in the high 170s on all three, each at least 6 points higher than my average across all of the other tests. In June I scored in the high 160s. I realize these three tests constitute a small sample size, but to have such a significant jump -- and so consistent a jump at that -- makes me extremely skeptical. Do February exams have easier curves, with people who wait until the last second to take the exam? That's my best guess at this point...

Anyone else notice the same with their scores?

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I am going to take the September lsat; I took a practice lsat on saturday and was wondering if i should review/relax until saturday or take another practice exam before the actual test day? and If so which day is best to take practice exam on? Thanks and good luck everyone.

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Hi everyone,

Goodluck to those who are taking in Sept! And to the rest of you studying!

I need some advice. This whole week I was down with the flu so I didn't get much studying done. About 1.5 weeks ago, I was averaging in the low 160s with a few outliers in the 165-166 range, felt pretty confident in my abilities but I knew I could improve more. LG was down to about -2, LR was down to -4 to -6, and RC was about -6 to -8. I revisited the CC twice already and thought I had established some fairly good understanding of the fundamentals.

Prior to this week of getting sick, I did a few preptests and they were significantly lower than usual (I'm talking like 157, 154 and 158...) I'm not sure why this is, I took them on different days - during review, the answers seemed evident... I revisited the CC again after this but of course my sickness got in the way for the week. I just did PT78 and scored a 160 so that made me feel a bit better (at least it wasn't in the 150s lol) but the questions I was getting wrong, I could get them right under review. So I thought okay maybe it's timing again (had another instance of a timing issue previously), so I just did PT60 first LR section allowing myself a bit more time (40 min) and got -10...

Help :( I thought I was making some progress in LR... With the test coming up literally in one week, I am thoroughly freaking out.

Has anyone else had wildlly fluctuating scores??? Please let me know your thought process and recommendations on how I should keep studying, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you!!!!

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(This very well might have already been posted so bear with me)

I came across this cool website on growth vs. fixed mindsets.

http://www.mindsetonline.com/whatisit/about/index.html

As we are all in this brutal LSAT studying boat together, I think we all can agree that it's very easy to fall off into the sea of a fixed mindset mentality. I hit a wall last Sunday harder than I ever have while studying for the LSAT and I was definitely reverting back to a fixed mindset mentality. We ALL have great talents and our hard work is going to push us to attaining our ideal score.

Hope this was beneficial for anyone who needed it :)

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Hey guys,

I'm taking the Sept test and was wondering which exam I should take for my final PT tomorrow.

Please let me know if there are any unique or interesting question types that are not typically found in any other PTs.

Thanks!!

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I just wanted to rave a little bit cause I'm pumped. So i did the full core curriculum, then just wrote my first practice LSAT. My cold diagnostic back in May I got a 142. On this test I got a 161 before BR and a 165 after BR. I'm not writing until December but I am already pumped about the progress just made! Thanks 7Sage!

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I've been actually consistently studying and doing full BRs. I've noticed I've been increasing as of late. 151 to 155 to 157. I've had sporadic studying for the past year and didn't see much of any improvement, but I feel like continually doing it though I've had the flu for the last two weeks has given me hope that I can reach the 170s by the Dec. test.

This test is not series of peaks and valleys but a long, brutal ascent.

I will say that stamina is a huge thing. I do decent the first two sections. Then when the sniffles and mucus start by section 3, then I start doubting myself in my thinking. Staying healthy and alert seems like huge things we can possibly be taken for granted.

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In the PrepTest booklets (usually on page nine), there is a page titled "THE PREPTEST." This outlines the different sections, one through four, as well as the writing sample materials, and gives you the order in which to expect the two logical reasonings, reading comprehension, and the analytical reasoning.

On test day, is there a page like this at the front of the book that tells the order of all five sections, so you have an idea of what to expect, as well as which might be the experimental (based on whether there are 3 LR, 2 RC, or 2 LG)?

Thanks and good luck to everyone else taking the September test a week from today!

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Ok so I am taking the Sep test next week.

I went yesterday and creeped on the location and I was even able to do some PT sections in the room where I will be taking the LSAT bc no one was there. It did help my nerves a bit but I have really really bad anxiety in general.

My anxiety is so bad that sometimes if I am really nervous I start a section and it seems like i'm dyslexic- like i totally cannot comprehend the words that im reading on the paper. Im so so nervous that I will freeze up. I haven't taken the LSAT since 4 years ago when I scored a 149.

Any tips/advice for test taking anxiety the week b4 the big day?

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Well....it's like one week before game day. To say I'm getting nervous would be an accurate statement. I also am not sure what to do prep wise. I have a PT that I really want to take (PT80) but at the same time I don't want to risk getting a bad score and destroying my confidence. My last scored PT was a 174 and I am riding that high currently. I face the dilemma of wanting exposure to another modern test, and wanting to keep my confidence in tact. So.....what do I do?

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before!

I am wondering what your strategies were between being in the high 150's and low 160's to the high 160's/low 170's.

Obv fool proofing logic games is huge. My weakness is logic and SO much of the time I am stuck between 2 right answers and pick the wrong one on LR- It is so frustrating because I lose a lot of points. As far as RC I average 20-21 right so trying to make that perfect right now because I find the whole section very intuitive.

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Sadly, I have a 'Withdrawal' on my Dec 2016 exam bc on the morning of the exam I woke up & my watch decided to stop working. Perfect. So, yea, don't want that to happen again next Saturday. Just wanted to get people's thoughts on good/decent watch brands to go for that will definitely not mess-up. Planning to order from Amazon Prime this week. Also not spending $50+ for the 180 watch.

I'll note: the watch I do have for everyday use is a J.Crew / Timex military watch (https://shop.r10s.jp/endless-trip/cabinet/03766270/03766275/img63799930.jpg) and I'll probably use that on test day if no one has strong feelings about a certain type of watch to get. My only hesitation is that occasionally (rarely) I'll find that the time has accidentally changed (i.e. hours ahead/behind, randomly), and I'm not sure how that's even possible. I'm guessing if I'm not wearing the watch & it's sitting on the desk on test day there shouldn't be any problems, right? [I'm also now realizing that I've been exclusively using the 7sage proctor watch for my PTs and I should start using/trying out this watch before test day!!]

Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

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I sat for the December test last year and was ill-prepared for it. My prep leading up to that take was filled with most of the common errors laid out in the 7Sage curriculum. I'm now planning to sit for this December's test and while I still have lots of work to do, I wanted to share this one thing since it is probably the only reason my goal score of 170 is within reach.

Spend A LOT of timing mastering the fundamentals upfront. That is shared regularly in this community but only because it is so important. I did nothing but fundamentals (Lawgic, grammar, QT strategies, LG Foolproofing) from February of this year through July! Here is why this was so important to me:

High Score --> Mastery of Fundamentals

not(Mastery of Fundamentals --> High Score)

Now that I have been taking full timed PTs and timed sections, I realize just how intuitive all the material has to become in order to be applied consistently when the clock is ticking. It is really difficult to perform at your peak for each section of a PT and then to do that consistently enough that you are confident you'll do it on D-Day. There is so much that I've had to learn beyond fundamentals like skipping strategies, comparative RC strategies, POE strategies, endurance, and durable composure. I tried to learn these things concurrently with the fundamentals last year and it resulted in a unideal score because I wound up learning neither. Even learning those "extras" now when I have a pretty good handle on fundamentals is difficult.

This is probably most useful to those who are just beginning or those who are debating whether or not to delay their take. I hope some of you find some use in this and will learn from my mistakes. Best of luck!

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Hi everyone,

I am really not sure how to relay my situation but I'll try my best. I am sorry in advanced if it seems all over the place. So here is a general background (can I even call it that)? of my situation: I was fortunate enough to be able to spend extensive time studying for the LSAT since last summer 2016. I should have used my time WISELY. Instead, I continued to procrastinate and push back studying for the LSAT. I had a lot of time and because of this, I kept telling myself not to worry; however, the few days that I DID study for the LSAT (which was usually two or three times a week for about 30 mins to an hour) I did not put my full effort in either. I purchased the Powerscore LG and LR books and essentially rushed them for the past year. After finishing them this summer 2017, I began taking PTs untimed. My scores started to increase up to mid 160s untimed after a few. Similar to reading the Powerscore books (two or three times a week), I only did the untimed PTs once or twice a week with several breaks (yes, I know. Terrible). Throughout this period, however, I frequently consulted LSAT discussion boards such as this, TLS, and the reddit forum.

My current situation:

I am currently registered for the September 2017 test (which is about a week away now). I started taking my FIRST timed PTs for about a week now and my scores are continuing to stay in the low 150s. I also made the mistake of not thoroughly reviewing the PTs or using BR. I am pretty sure I will do just as poorly on the test next week as I have on the PTs I am taking. I am not really sure what to do... Do you recommend I start from learning the fundamentals properly? I was considering using the 7sage course to study for the LSAT. Even if I did bomb this September test next week I am signing up for December to retake it with much better study habits because I have learned (the hard way) that there really are no shortcuts to this test.

What I have been hoping for is my GPA (cGPA of 3.90) to compensate for the low LSAT score in this September test since I am applying this cycle and thinking I am a splitter. I am a Canadian applicant and have hopes of getting into either Osgoode or U of T. What are your thoughts/advice/opinions? I know my approach was really, really bad and I will likely get criticized for it but I chose to ask this question in the 7sage forum instead of TLS and the Reddit forum because having I find the help here to be much better and I feel the sense of community is much stronger here.

Thank you for taking the time to read my lengthy post. Apologies again!

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