I am wondering whether I should be drilling games by using the Powerscore logic games bible because I did buy it before, or whether I should just continue taking PTs? If I get games wrong, then I can see what I got wrong and try to watch the videos on it? What's the best idea because I am taking the test in September?

Hi guys, just a quick question. When I'm drilling for logic games (doing timed sections in the bundle), is it a big deal not to be able to get it on the first try? I find untimed, I can do them really well (accuracy wise) but I only struggle with timing. Once I watch some of the videos or even attempt the set again I am able to do much better. The reason I'm asking is because obviously you only get one chance on test day so I just wanted to see the general opinion on this topic is

Thanks guys

I go from -0 to -5 on the hardest passages, independent of subject matter. I literally have no idea why any of these variations happen. I can usually BR them -0 or -1. Ugh help me.

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^Me while I'm reading

hey all

so i've heard of some ppl who do this but just wanted to get everyone's broader feedback. i know many ppl disagree with looking at the questions first before reading the RC passage.

but how is this strategy?

first briefly scan the questions, see which questions have specific line references, and then go back to the passage and just note (draw a star/squiggly or something) next to those line references.

then read the passage, but when you come across a part of the passage that you previously noted (and that will be tested on a question), read that part a little bit more carefully/intentionally.

that way you'll be a little more prepared when you see that question after you finish reading the passage.

what do ppl think of this strategy? and advice or thoughts? thanks.

Does anyone have a specific way of dealing with these problems. I swear I almost consistently get them wrong time after time despite understanding that the answer is in the passage. I don't know what I'm specifically doing wrong but I suppose I must be falling for a trap answer or something like that. This occurs with any question that asks to explain the purpose of a specific word or phrase. Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you.

Hi 7sagers,

I needed some advice on reading speed for RC.

From my understanding, RC and LG are similar in the manner that if you spend the time upfront, you won't have to look back at the passage (time sinks) when you are doing your questions. Although I am in my early crawling stages of studying - I have noticed to really get the passage down well (meaning: understand it well, used JY's memorization technique, passage annotations, etc.), it takes me between 5-6 mins to do that.

In a real test - this would make me only do 2-3 passages approximately in a given RC section. I know JY and other pro test takers have mentioned your benchmark for reading/breaking down the passage should be 4 minutes and under. Since I am pretty off from this LOL - any recommendations on how I can improve to meet this standard? Has anyone else had a similar problem? If so, how did you deal with it?

Moving forwards, these are somethings I am going to try and improve on to improve my timing:

Thanks for the help in advance 7sage fam!

Hello,

It's Aug 1 and I am transitioning from material to prep tests only for the final month before taking the Sept LSAT. I know...should have been doing them more often throughout, but have been doing a lot of drills and sections. For the prep tests that I have done, I've started with the older ones. About to print a stack of tests and wondering if it makes more sense to start from the more recent tests or earlier? Basically, if I wanted to print 15 prep tests, which ones would you suggest?

Thank you!

Hey 7sage folks,

I remember JY saying in one of the C.Curriculum videos that he did a live demonstration of a LR and RC section. Where can we find that? I have the Ultimate Curriculum and unable to find it. Any help is much appreciated.

Also, a fellow LSAT friend of mine who is a tutor said to me that usually the last two questions of the LR section are easy. However, I thought as you are doing the LR section, as you progress I thought the questions only get more difficult. Thus, with that in mind won't questions 24-26 be the toughest? Usually I try to avoid them LOL thinking about getting the other low hanging fruits - but am I wrong in thinking this?

Thanks again in advance! = )

Hello everyone, on reading comprehension I usually miss the questions where you have to go back to the given line number in the question stem. I usually read 2-3 lines above and below the given line number. Any suggestions on how to improve on this type of question? Like should I quickly scan the questions before I read the passage and note the line number that is going to be asked in the question? Or would that just be a waste of time?

Thank you very much in advance.

hey all,

so i know we can see LR questions categorized by question type.

is there a way to see/organize LR questions based on LAWGIC? so like formal logic (with most/some statements) and conditional logic etc? some questions are purely lawgic.

This would include quite a few MBT, MSS, SA, etc. combination of questions. Just questions that are heavy or completely logic.

i'm kinda struggling with lawgic questions, and they've been hitting me with a variety of question stems (MBT, MSS, etc.).

thanks.

The question is fairly self-explanatory, but here's one of a number of examples: PT 4, Sec. 3 rates the overall difficulty as a 3/5 in the Question Bank but a 1/5 overall under the Free LG Explanations list. Can anyone clarify? Thanks in advance!

Can anyone explain how is the word "selfish" is used in this stimulus? I don't see the difference between the uses of the term.

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Hey everybody!

I've been thinking about this for a while, and I just re-watched the video on Contrapositive Mistakes, which has cemented my feelings. Do you know in Flaw questions where the answers will say something like, "Takes a necessary condition for an argument's being inadequate to be a sufficient condition for an argument's being inadequate"? Sometimes answer choices in Flaw questions really trip me up, and one thing that always confused me is: what's the difference between confusing sufficient for necessary as opposed to confusing necessary for sufficient? I read a forum on PowerScore about this that claimed that they are not the same, but to me, they are, because they are the contrapositive of each other.

Confusing Sufficient for Necessary

A---->B

A/----->/B

This is making the sufficient necessary because after you fail A you fail B, instead of the rule falling away as it's supposed to.

Confusing Necessary for Sufficient

A----->B

B------>A

Here it's taking the necessary condition and moving it to the sufficient, which is wrong.

But, isn't A/---->/B just the contrapositive of B---->A? And therefore, in Flaw questions that use this incorrect form of logical reasoning, wouldn't either answer choice (confusing necessary for sufficient OR sufficient for necessary) be correct? Has anybody else ever thought about this?

I am having a hard time recognizing when I should draw out the argument structure to help me with the question

(A---->B ect...)

When do you decide it will be most helpful to visually represent the argument structure to help answer the question?

Is it rare? Or almost every question? Certain question types? Or should I eventually do it all in my head?

#help

Can anyone explain the stimulus and why (E) is the answer for this question? I just don't get this one.

When the question stem uses the word "Most"; IE: Most Strengthens, Most Weakens, Most Resolves, do you guys find this to be indicative of more subtly correct answers and also potential trap ACs? I remember JY mentioning in one video that the term "Most" in LR stems is in some cases like a cop out for LSAC to defend ACs that may have the potential to come under fire. Not sure if confirming this would change my approach, but could be a good hint to pay extra attention and carefully eliminate ACs. What do you guys think?

Can anyone explain with clarity on why the right answer choice is right? Thanks!

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I feel like I keep getting all of the low priority questions correct, some high priority, and missing all of high priority. I am not sure if I need to just be exposed more to the questions because this is just my second PT after CC. I looked over the CC in between first PT and now this second PT, but I am still missing high priority questions. What are your guys' suggestions? Should I maybe upgrade my 7sage account to get more high priority question examples? I am not sure what I am doing wrong because when I review the lessons and do the practice problems, I get them all correct. On the test, however, I am not scoring better.

Hey 7sagers,

With respect to the LR stems that are in the MISC section, is there a certain way you study for them? For example the stem that states "how would you logically complete the argument?", how would you approach doing these questions.

Thanks for the help in advance.

Hey guys,

When practicing LG, I always go to the 7sage Youtube channel for indications as to how long I should take to solve a specific game. At the beginning of his video explanations, JYP always mentions how long you should take if you're trying to get a perfect LG score, and this has been quite helpful.

Do you guys know of a similar resource for RC?

Will

Hello 7sagers,

Iv been studying for 8 months. Went through the CC, did Powerscore, did Manhattan Prep, and I'm still getting -8, -7, -6, with my BR usually being around -4, -6. I feel like I've made a lot of traction when it comes with RC and LG. With RC, I realized that If I just read it slower with a narrator's voice in my head as I'm reading it, that I was able to retain a lot of the information and structure, with very minimal notations. With LR though, I feel like my strategy is obviously off, something about how I'm reading it, my focus isn't where it needs to be, I'm not sure. I try to read them with an eye for the conclusion and premise, but when I'm cognizant of this, I feel like I'm not understanding it completely if that makes sense. I'm BR'ing correctly, I write all the answers I get wrong in an excel spreadsheet and go through each answer and reason it out, and I'm going to continue to do this but I think something is off with my reading strategy and my focus. Because I'm missing questions that I know, that are so obvious when I go to BR.

Just casting a large net here and seeing if others have felt this way, and what they did to master their focus and reading ability on LR, or any general tips on combating this would be much appreciated.

Hello!

I've been scoring in the low 160's (BR'ing in the low 170's) and would like to consult someone scoring in a similar range to discuss Logical Reasoning strategies. My current goal is to perform efficiently and effectively under time pressure. To do this, I've worked on incorporating skipping strategies and taking a consistent approach to reading the stimulus & going through the answer choices.

During the consultation, I'd like to go over some LR sections and refer back to some lessons and problem sets in the curriculum.

Please feel free to message me!

Thank you!

Hi,

I am looking for some help with percentage/numbers questions in general.

Most of the times I do get the answers right. But usually I hesitate between 2 of the answer choices and in blind reviews I tend to struggle explaining to myself why the correct answer is correct.

With this particular question, PT16, S2, Q9, I was down to (B) and (C). In the end I chose (C) because it "seemed more correct" given that the increase of electrical energy usage was larger (50%) than overall energy usage (10%). I also thought it is difficult to say anything about "other" energy types like in (B) as the stimulus does not give enough information about them.

As you can see, I didn't exactly have a confident reason in eliminating (B) and choosing (C). When I searched online for some explanations, they all came up with hypothetical numbers to show why (B) is not necessarily the case and (C) is. But I don't think I can come up with something like that during the exam under time constraint. So..

Can any of you tell me how you could go about during the actual exam environment in answering this question? Eliminating (B) with certainty and choosing (C)?

Thank you so much in advance!

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Is there anywhere that shows how to negate certain terms. I get confused on how to negate some AC's and cant seem to find any resources on this.

I should clarify I am confused about the negations! How does it result that from a statement such as "All cats are black" to Neg Some cats /black OR (this is the one I'm confused about)... cats and /black. I don't understand the "and"?