Now that we're officially switching over to digital, how are y'all foolproofing LG? By printing out a bunch of games like before, or by using the digital simulator and scratch paper? Any tips?

Good morning 7sagers,

I would like to purchase a copy of Ellen Cassidy's "The Loophole in LSAT Logical Reasoning" and it seems to be unavailable on all of the platforms I would look for it: Amazon, e-Bay, Barnes and Noble, HalfPrice Books, Thriftbooks...

If anyone has a copy they would be willing to part with, preferably not all marked up, I would be willing to buy it from you. I can Venmo you for the book and for shipping today.

Thanks--

Kat

Hi everyone,

I took the July LSAT and got a 157. Although I started studying 6 months before that, I didn't start doing full tests until about 2 months before and so I didn't see much improvement at all. I expected something around this score because I was getting between 155-165 on PT.

My dilemma is whether or not I should cancel my score. I am going away for 4 months from Sep-Dec and would only be able to take the LSAT again in January. If I cancel, I'm concerned that it would look bad as the January test is the latest for the 2020 cycle. I'm applying to most of the Ontario schools as well as Dalhousie and UBC. If I keep my score, I feel like I might stand a chance with a 157, though I will retake for sure. When I retake, I expect that my score will be between 160-165.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Hey everyone,

Just needed some advice on this: diagramming the MBT & SA questions. I feel on a time section this is a huge time sink for me but I usually get the question right most of the time. However, I know it is not recommended to do as a test strategy. How do you untrain yourself from diagramming? Or how do you develop not diagram? I feel it will save me like 2-4 mins on a test...

Any advice would be most appreciated .... thanks!

Hey all,

I can’t make the big webinar on whether one should cancel July, but I am freaking out and am at a loss for what to do.

Stats things:

I have only taken the July LSAT and scored a 163

I graduated from an Ivy League school magna cum laude with a 3.87 GPA and won an award for my senior thesis.

I am 100% interested in schools with strong public interest programs, and am in love with NYU and Berkeley. I do not technically count as a URM but identify as a queer person of color; my background is middle eastern. I have slaved over this test for a year, neglecting my personal statement and going through a lot of emotional turmoil because me and tests don’t mesh so well. I was scoring 165/167 before the test, so I chalk up the drop in my score to test day nerves and starting 3 hours late. I think maybe I could do better, but really wanted to start my PS and get a move on the rest of my application. I have been working for over a year at a prestigious public interest org- with a rec from my employer, my thesis advisor, and a professor, I think in terms of recs I'm pretty set. I am a good writer and feel that the rest of my application is very strong, but I know my score is seriously lacking for the places I want to be. ‘Holistic’ application assessment seems like a myth, too.

So, with all that said, should I retake?

Hi! So I'm registered for the October 2019 LSAT and had a couple questions. I live in Canada so the weather in October will probably cold.

Am I allowed to wear my winter coat ? What about a hoodie?

Am I allowed to bring my wallet to the test centre?

What should I do with my phone if I need to call a ride after the exam?

I googled this stuff but keep getting conflicting info, so any input would be appreciated. And if this has been asked before, please link the discussion below :)

Thanks!

Hi 7Sagers,

Can anyone help me understand why (E) is not the correct AC for this question?

Here's the breakdown of the stimulus and my understanding of each AC:

P1: Without info that could only have come from someone present at the secret meeting between the finance minister and the leader of the opposition party, the news story that forced the finance minister to resign could not have been written

P2: No one witnessed the meeting except the minister’s aide.

Conclusion: It is clear that the FM was brought down not by any of his powerful political enemies but by his own trusted aide.

Flaw: The minister’s aide is one of the many, not the only sources of information. It could have been the opposition party members who got in touch with the leader of the opposition party who attended the meeting. You can't definitely conclude that it's the FM's trusted aide that brought down the FM.

(A) drawing a conclusion on the basis of evidence that provides equally strong support for a competing conclusion. ⇒ Correct. It can equally support the opposite conclusion: No one but the minister’s trusted aide witnessed the meeting. Therefore, it is clear the FM was brought down by his powerful political enemies.

(B) assuming without warrant that if one thing cannot occur (=FM brought down) without another thing’s already having occurred (=the minister’s aide leaking info), then the earlier thing cannot occur without bringing about the later thing. ⇒ Not the right flaw. doesn’t work for this argument which does not care about the temporal order / chronology of the two events.

(C) confusing evidence that a given outcome on one occasion was brought about in a certain way with evidence that the same outcome on a different occasion was brought in that way. ⇒ Not descriptively accurate. There are no two occasions presented where the evidence can be used for the same outcome but in different occasions.

(D) basing its conclusion on evidence that is almost entirely irrelevant to the point at issue. ⇒ P1 and P2 are relevant to the point at issue (FM being brought down).

(E) treating evidence that a given action (=the trusted aide witnessing the secret meeting) contributed to bringing about a certain effect (FM being brought down) as though that evidence established that the given action by itself was sufficient to bring about that effect.

I was divided between (A), the right AC, and (E) and went with (E).

I'm not sure if I've understood the vague / complex sentence structure of (E) correctly. I must be missing out on sth or misinterpreting the argument structure. . . please share how you tackled this question!

Thank you :)

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Hi,

I received a 156 on the July test under less than ideal conditions (had a massive headache and lack of concentration/mental clarity as a result). Top choice school (UConn) for me has a median of 158 (25th percentile of 156 and 75th of 161). I'm confident I can do better. Scoring around 158-161 on recent PTs and still studying for Sept, Oct, and potentially Nov tests. Thanks!

Which section, of the graded sections, was the “toughest” one during the test?

Good Afternoon Everyone,

I took the July Lsat. I was wondering if anyone knew when the LSAC is going to release the copy of the exam with the answer.

Hi all, wondering if anyone would be willing to share their journey through fool proofing 1-35 games and also willing to share an excel tracker (I know some people have found using excel useful to track progress and I am someone who would benefit from having that information all neatly packaged). Please let me know if you have some time to explain your story or simply comment on this! Writing in November and looking to really improve my LG.

Thank you so much everyone! Y'all keep me motivated when i see the progression of scores some people have and i hope to oneday be able to share a similar story.

Hi friends!

I need some advice on what to do. I have plateaued and I just don't know what to do because I'm supposed to take the LSAT in September. Do you think I should just do basic drills and for a couple days and then take more practice tests? Do I wait to take the text longer? I'm really feeling discouraged

hi guys,

if a conditional statement says something like, "if i win the game, I should buy a toy", how do I diagram this out? Is it even diagrammable? If so, how would this work, since it's not a certainty expression?

Thank you!

Hi everyone,

I have found that inference questions have, by far, been my weakest point in RC, so I have been searching for a better way to understand the question type. It occurred to me that Inference questions in RC behave somewhat similarly to necessary assumption questions in LR. That is, it seems that if you negate the inference, it will "wreck" or at least be inconsistent with the part of the passage in which that bit of information appears.

How do others think about RC Inference questions, and does this analysis make sense?

Hi everyone! I tried to register for the October 2019 LSAT in Seattle area, and there's an option for a waitlist. I even tried November 2019 and there's also a waitlist. Has anyone had experiences with the LSAT waitlists? It's giving me anxiety that the November 2019 is completely booked. Yikes!!!

Hi guys!

I just did PT 86 RC and did great an all sections except passage 4. I know JY posted videos for ultimate+ users, but since I'm not in a position to afford that ranking, could someone help me out with tips/explanations? As I cannot find anything online.

Thanks!

Hey guys!

So I took the LSAT in June 2019 and scored a 165. I took it again in July to see if I could go any higher, but I scored a 165 again. Would it look worse for me to keep it or to cancel the score? Appreciate any advice. Thanks!

Hi Everyone,

I was hoping someone would be willing to share their progression in improving the Logic Reasoning section of the LSAT, and how they were able to get good at both speed and accuracy!

Help! I'm having trouble studying for the RC section of the LSAT. any good advice/tips?

Hello everyone,

I’m feeling a little down. I just took my second prep test today and scored a 140. I’ve been studying for the LSAT for almost a year now. I started with Kaplan and took two real LSAT tests. On my first one I scored a 141 and on the second one I scored a 146. Not great. Then I decided to start with 7Sage and give it another try but so far I am not seeing a huge difference (not saying that the course is bad cause so far it’s been great). I even quit my full time job recently to take a break and fully focus on studying and practicing for the LSAT which I will be re-taking in November 2019. I usually understand the material and I do great in the practice assessments after each session, but for some reason when it comes to taking the actual prep test or even the real test, the timing messes me up and I have a hard time focusing. If anyone has any helpful advice on how to improve or tips to apply when taking the test please let me know.

I am finding as I work on MBT questions that I seem to get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of information sometimes (they can be quite long) and keep it all lined up in my head while under time. I know scribbling down some of the logic can help but it isn't the most time efficient thing to do, though I'm willing to do it if need be. Any tips, advice or strategies that helped you not feel overwhelmed with all the info to remember? Thanks!

What is a PSA question? How is it different than SA?

If I am forgetting lines in a passage (for example that X rarely occurs or that X percentage of something does something else) that support an AC in a question therefore leading me to getting questions wrong, what larger problem do you think that’s a symptom of? Should I be reading more slowly for nuance and/or is my memory method process faulty?

The scenario that happened more than once in a recent PT is that I thought none of the ACs were supported in a question so I chose “the best” AC begrudgingly even though I recognized the flaws in it. On BR though I ultimately found the part of the passage that supported an AC that I originally thought was unsupported. I realized I had forgotten about a line or part of the passage.

New to the discussion forums, so sorry if this is not worthy of its own post. Just curious.

I was crying when I got my score yesterday. Over a year of studying. First diagnostic was a 157. Quite studying an entire semester due to depression. My first test, and the highest I had hit on my practice tests was 171. Thank you so much to 7Sage, I would’ve never hit this without this program. The only program I will ever recommend!