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Hey guys! Here's the official December LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the December 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Dec. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13991/december-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

Hey All, I want to file a complaint against my proctor for my LSAT. Can you let me know if I have a valid case?

During the test, when I was taking the LG section. She called the 5 minute marker, 5 minutes earlier than it was suppose to be. After the end of the 5 min marker, she recalled her earlier statement and said that we had 5 mins again. This event seriously threw me off the test, I was not able to get pass the last LG question, which is usually my strongest section. I want to complain to LSAC, but I don't want my score to be cancelled since I still want to know how I did. I also don't want to just delay the test because I was planning on applying this semester. Please any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!

Any pre post during lsat - funny stories? Share them here!

Is it true that step 3 and 6 are the same? We, twice, have to piece together the information?

Hi Guys,

I just have a question for weakening / flaw answer choices. Although there is some over lap between the two, I know that they are distinct and I understand how to approach them differently. However, sometimes I have difficulty distinguishing the KEY difference between their answer choices. For example, if a answer choice in a weakening questions presents a flaw can that be the right answer choice? In other words, what are they key differences in their respected answer choices.

Thanks,

Nas

Who has better journalism ethics?

Despite my long journey of preperation for yesterday, my neurosis is not stopping the "what if's" in my head. So I am strongly considering registering for feb, and not wasting an entire month that I could be studying while waiting for scores to release. I am applying for Fall of next year and I am wondering if anyone knows how I would go about disclosing or not disclosing my choice to take feb in my applications... Do I tell schools that I will be taking feb? Will that mean that they will not yet consider my application until feb scores release? Or do I simply send out apps with December score and approach said schools with my feb score when it releases? Not sure how this exactly works. Sorry this is so convoluted but I'm sure the 7 sage community knows what I'm trying to get at ...

Hey guys! Just looking for any and all advice you can give me regarding the below:

I just took the December LSAT and I felt okay about it until I found out that what I thought was my experimental LG section was actually the real scored section. For reference, LG is usually my best section (max I've gotten is -3 on LG). On this test, one LG section seemed relatively normal and I finished on time, while the other LG section I was completely confused and ended up randomly bubbling in about 6-8 questions. Naturally, I assumed that was the experimental section but retrospectively, I must have just been REALLY off my game for that section (granted, I have been/currently am pretty sick, but trying not to use that as an excuse).

So my question is - Should I cancel this score? For reference, I took the test once already last year and got a 160. Before this Dec test, I was PT'ing in mid to high 160s, with BR scores in mid to high 170s (I'm pretty sure it's a timing issue, so going into this test I was already considering taking it a third time because I know I can still improve). Now I think I should cancel my score, because best case scenario (somehow the answer for every question on one of the logic games is 'C' and I somehow don't lose too much on LG), my score will still likely not be where I want/what I know I'm capable of. Worst case scenario, I do much worse on this test and get a lower score than last time (which is very likely because I don't feel confident that I did well enough on RC/LR to offset this poor LG section). My thought process is what's the point in having a worse score on my record if even the potential benefit of a best case scenario score is still not where I want it to be?

I'm really leaning towards cancelling because I'm 99% sure I'm going to take it again, but I would greatly appreciate any and all advice/experiences about cancelling (mostly if there are any repercussions in doing so in terms of my future applications).

Thank you in advance, and if you took the December test as well, congratulations on making it and good luck!!

I usually do pretty well with reading speed. Never more than 5minutes (which is rare). Normally between 3:30 and 4. But when I hear JY's target times I don't understand how anyone could get through the questions that fast. Does anyone have any feedback on how to improve speed?

Do I need to improve my accuracy before I improve my speed?

I have noticed that there are no Logic Games Bundle past PT 35. Is that because of licensing reasons with LSAC?

Thanks!

So, give it to an established news source, or keep it for her own website?

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official December 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Cruise ship trips to Manila/Osaka/Shanghai

-Musical Performances

-Metro Closures

-Apartment Cleaning

RC:

-Chinese Language

-Heroes and Multiverse

-Copywriting Comedians and Chefs

-Social Theorists about Darwinism

LR:

-Indian Spice

-Nuclear Fusion of Atoms/Heat

-T. Rex

-Tilapia Fish

-Alzheimer's Disease

-Herbal Medicines that Become Harmful

-Herniated Disks

-Dolphin Habitat

-Raising Prices by 25 Cents

-7pm and 6pm

-Fish Fingers

-Copper Tools and Canoes

-Sensing Tornadoes

-Movie Review

-Caligula

-Mayor Getting Re-Elected

-Black/White Camoflage

-Greek Character Reading Oracle's Tablet

-Disagreement About How Companies Should Go About Things

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-Rumor

-Fruits

-Voting Committees and Zoning Committees

RC:

-Protest Fiction

-Tax Alternatives

-Ice Cores

LR:

-Mosquitoes and Leaves

-Potato Insects

-Whistleblower

-Birds Feigning Injury

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LR:

-PTSD, stress, and cortisol levels

-Planet 256

-Lake Sassafras

-Lichens

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion stickied!

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty sure the answer is I can't take the test (I was planning on canceling my score anyway) but does anyone know if there is anything that can be done about being admitted to the exam if you lose your only form of ID the night before the exam?

My LSAT ticket has horizontal lines across the picture, does this matter? also if so how can i get them off?

Hello everyone,

My latest hurdle on LR is trying to parse out the referential phrasing. Has anyone had an issue with this and compiled a list of questions to practice? Let me know! It would be the biggest help on my journey to improving my LR score!

All the best!

Hope for your goal score!

Is anyone considering withdrawing? I've already withdrew once before and it sucks to eat the money but I'm just wondering if anyone else is going to withdraw from this Saturday's test.

I'm still 5+ points away from my goal score so I know it won't happen. I'm already registered for February's test so still contemplating what to do.

I was reviewing Q19 from Section 1 of PT 27 answer choice A, which got me wondering about causal chains.

According to the stimulus, pollen can cause the release of histamines, and histamine cannot cause cold symptoms.

Answer A says: "Pollen and other allergens do not cause colds" and it is an incorrect answer.

Can we not link this up into a causal chain like "pollen --> histamine --> ~cold symptoms" and conclude (through the transitive property) that pollen cannot cause cold symptoms?

I know for conditional reasoning, if you have a chain like "a-->b-->~c" you can conclude "a-->~c", but is this not the case for causal reasoning?

In a similar vein, if you have a causal chain like "a causes b. b causes c", you CAN conclude that "a causes c," right?...

Thank you!

I am taking the December LSAT and from my prep work and thinking I am going to be in the 155-158 range. I am going to retake the exam in February, does anyone think it is possible to increase my score to 165?

My biggest issue is timing! I have always been a slow reader and I am finding reading comp impossible. Any suggestions on how I can improve my score if I am a slow reader?

I still cannot figure out where my test center is. All it says is Rutgers New Brunswick 14411. I clicked on the web address it provided and it just sent me to rutgers.edu. Not helpful at all! Helppppppp

During question #2 of Negate Quiz #4, it states that:

Every doctor in this hospital is qualified to work on combating the city’s zombie epidemic.

Wouldn’t the logical negation be “not all doctors” instead of “some doctors….are not”, the reason being that “every" implies 100%, thus a binary division would mean 0-99, which translates as "not all", whereas “some...are not” translates as 1-99. Or is it the case that since we are negating the conditional relationship, it cannot include 0, which translates to “none”, which is a universal quantifier which implies a conditional relationship. Thus, 1-99 or “some” is the correct negation because it implies inter sectional relationship only and precludes a conditional relationship.

I would truly appreciate some feedback, because I trying to address any misconceptions.

So I've been studying for the LSAT for nearly two months now. Only in the past two weeks have I actually done more rigorous work to progress my studying. I've increased 10 points in the last week alone. With this being said, the reason I've studied like this is because I work 2 jobs and take 5 classes, plus extra circular activities at school (I took a week off of school and work, which financially killed me). My current average is 154, but I know if I take at least 4-6 months to dedicate all my focus towards the LSAT, I can score a 165+. So my question is, should I take the LSAT on Saturday and perform average, or take a year off and hopefully perform exceptional. It might sound like an obvious answer, but I just want to get into law school and get this shit over with. I legit no longer care about getting into Tier 1 or Tier 2 schools, I'm too fucking stressed to waste another year of my life because of an exam.

Hi everyone (sorry for the second post in one day),

Just starting my PT grind, and I've noticed I usually fail to get to the last 2-3 questions in LR. I also feel myself spending too much time on the first ~10 questions on LR, which is concerning because everyone tells me these are the "freebies."

So is there a rule for the general amt of time I should be spending on these questions? I want to say I heard someone say 10 min for the first 10 but I'm not sure if I'm making this up.

I'm thinking about taking old PTs and drilling the first 10-15 LR q and forcing myself to get them all right under a certain amount of time so I have more time for the more difficult q at the end of the section.

Thanks!

Hello! I'm in desperate need of some advice. I am scheduled to take the LSAT for the FIRST time next Monday, Dec 4th. I have been studying since July, but not studying correctly. This is how my studying has been since July:

JULY: Start reading Powerscore LR book

AUGUST: Reading Powerscore LR book

SEPTEMBER: Reading Powerscore LR book

OCTOBER: Finish Powerscore LR book, Start reading Powerscore RC book, Got Powerscore LG flashcards and reviewed almost every day, start taking LSAT prep test sections (untimed) at the end of Oct

NOVEMBER: Finish Powerscore RC book, Started reading Powerscore LG book (halfway through now), Reviewed LG flashcards every few days, Have taken maybe 10-15 practice sections so far, Took two timed full tests one week apart (scored 137 on first one and 139 on second one - did blind review for second one and the potential score was 149)

*** NOTE: I looked into tutors and courses in August and they were all incredibly expensive, but I found out about 7sage less than a week ago and I signed up for the Beginner's course thinking it might miraculously help -_-

I feel like I went about studying all wrong and did not take it as seriously as I should have. There's no way I would apply to law school with the scores I've been getting on the practice tests, so I'm wondering if I should just cancel the test on Monday and create a new study plan to take it at a later time. Or if I should just go to at least "see the beast" so that way I at least know what to expect when I take it again.

Thoughts?