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Hi 7sagers, I am finishing up my master program and April is the exam season in England... I have 4 final essays and 2 final exams which all count 100 percent of the grade on each class. (Yes it is ridiculous) They are all due/happening in April! However, I registered the June 22rd LSAT and wondering if you have any strategies time management? Should I only focus on school work and give up this whole month on LSAT preps and work on the preps in May and June? Or should I do half and half which might be hard for me to switch modes... Any suggestions will be appreciated! Thanks!

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official March 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.

**Please keep all discussions of the March 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)

Rules:

✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆‍♀️

You can say things such as the following:

  • “I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?”

  • “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”

  • “I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?”

    • ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅‍♂️

    You CANNOT say things such as the following:

  • “Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)

  • “The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)

  • “What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)

    • Have fun discussing!

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    Alright, I'm not sure if I should be worried about this question too much as I hope (and have heard) that the newer tests are much more logically rigorous. Anyway, hear me out on this one...

    This is a "Weaken Except Question" and we are given a fairly basic argument.

    P1: Our neighborhood already has the most residents per [recreation] center of any neighborhood in the city.

    P2: Access to recreational facilities is a necessity for this neighborhood

    C: Closing this center is unacceptable

    Assumptions I noticed: Does most residents per captia here mean that all of them actually use the facility? What if the neighborhood is comprised of people who don't use it?

    AC:

    B weakens the argument. If children, who are the main users of the center, are less populous in this neighborhood then we have more reason to close the center/have more reason to believe that it isn't a necessity.

    C kind of weakens as we don't know what the subjective term "often" means.

    D weakens because it does the same thing as B and C. These three AC are almost like a package because they all essentially argue the same thing - that the rec center is underutilized and that the conclusion (closing the center is unacceptable) is more likely to be falsified.

    So we are down to A and E. This is where my trouble began. I looked at A and thought that it strengthens the argument. Well, it does and it doesn't. If the term "their locality" is taken to mean "their city limits" then yes, this strengthens the argument. However, if the term "their locality" is taken to mean "the residents homes" then this would weaken the argument as it implies that the residents wouldn't be able to leave their homes to go to the center, and thus essentially do the same thing as B, C, and D.

    The real issue is with E though...

    E states, "As people become more involved in computers and computer games, rec centers are becoming increasingly less important".

    Ummm... If this was used in an actual argument in my philosophy class it would get laughed out. First, this AC assumes that the people in the stimulus are actually able to gain access to, and competently use computers. What if this is an Amish neighborhood? Well this AC doesn't work. What if this is a neighborhood in X nation without electricity? The location or time period of the neighborhood is never specified in the stimulus. Next, this AC equivocates "less important" with meaning "less frequently used". That's a terrible jump to make as well. Just because something becomes less important to me does not mean that I will use it less. For example, I've gotten more into the LSAT and as a result my lifting schedule has become less important. Does that mean that I lift less? No. It just means that I care less.

    Let me know what you think #Help

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    What does "fully determined" actually mean on the AR section in games? My understanding, from watching the explanation for game 4 in PT 64, question 20, is that "fully determined" means that there are no other possibilities for any of the pieces to go. Is this accurate?

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    I'm taking the March LSAT this upcoming Saturday (3/30) but I'm nowhere near ready for the exam. I started studying in January and overestimated how much I could do while working FT and have only completed about 75% of the core curriculum and about 4-5 PTs (I started to try and do PTs since I was fast approaching the exam date).

    I'm averaging about 159 on my exams and can get up to 166 on BR (mostly because I can do LGs perfectly untimed but during the timed section I get anywhere from -5 to most recently -9). I don't have enough time to improve my score but I figured since it's my first time taking the test, I should still go and do so. However, should I worry about getting a score that is not reflective of my true ability? I know you can omit the score but I don't know how much it matters since it's evident schools don't average anymore.

    Help is appreciated! Thanks!

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    Hello,

    I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding when I should set up my game board as a grouping/sequence game board or an in out one. Prep test 35 game 3 and prep test 60 game 4 seem very similar to me but JY used different game boards for both. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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    Hi! I had a complete disaster in January lol I was registered and missed the test by 2 mins because I was late. Literally as soon as I walked up to the proctors they had just put pencils down. My life. Anyway, I'm not taking any chances for March, so I want to make sure I have everything planned. I checked my ticket and it says "Main Foyer" is where we report for the exam. Does anyone else know who's signed up there, or who has taken the test there previously, if that's the building where the gym is/the main classrooms?

    Thank you!

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    Hi all,

    I finished the CC earlier this week and took my first PT since my diagnostic a couple days ago. I did quite well going from a 150 to a 160 but my biggest gains were in RC and LG. During the second half of the LR sections (especially the second LR section), I felt like I would read over the stimulus and not be able to digest it because I felt so pressed for time. This definitely showed in my pre-blind review LR scores.

    In the CC LR untimed problem sets, I would routinely get 5/5 questions right so I guess my question is in other 7sagers experiences, is there something I can do to help remedy this problem? Or will more PTs/blind review do the trick?

    Thanks y'all, I greatly appreciate any input!

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    In general, for Logic Games execution, I am curious do most write directly on their base diagram or create local diagrams incorporating the new inference specific to the question? For some games when I split the board I don’t see this as much of an issue (although it still can be), but when I have one base diagram I find myself erasing a lot as I move to the next Q which inherently feels like I’m wasting time. Curious if others find it more efficient to draw up a whole new diagram or erase from the base and fill in the new inference for each subsequent Q. I feel like erasing causes me to lose work I can refer back to later, but writing out whole new diagrams feels like it can take up time as well.

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    I'm hitting 2 games with a few mistakes, but then I get to the third and fourth and I get overwhelmed because I took too long on the first two. Today, I scored a 159 on my practice test because I only got 11 right in LG, but the rest I was satisfied about relative to how terrible my LGs are. (23 in RC, 21 & 17 in LR)

    Do I just need to foolproof LGs up until the test day?

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    [From PT69, Section 1, #20]

    "Medical reporter: Studies have consistently found that taking an aspirin Admin note: deleted. copyright issues

    "The reasoning in the doctor's argument is most vulnerable to criticism on which of the following grounds?"

    So which is it, medical reporter or doctor?

    Can it be the tests are created by human beings? Nah, probably just a glitch in the matrix.

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    Hello everyone,

    I found this to be an incredibly difficult question. I did get the question right, but I did not feel good at all about my answer choice timed or in blind review. I eliminated the other answer choices because they just seemed outlandish, but I really looked hard at the stimulus and can find precious little textual support for E. Why would it not be possible for the mussels to absorb some of the hazardous waste, but not necessarily become hazardous waste themselves? To me it seemed like that really was making an assumption. I can agree by using my real world knowledge that E would make sense, but in the world of the LSAT where tiny assumptions can separate correct/incorrect answer choices, I really felt that E was just asking me to go much farther than I was comfortable with.

    Because of my doubts, I came incredibly close to changing my answer to D in blind review, and even now looking back I can still feel the doubts lingering. Is there something that is just going way over my head here? Does someone else see something in the text that clearly and demonstrably makes E the better answer choice than D?

    Thanks so much!

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    Hi Everyone,

    I am facing significant challenges with timing on the arguments section. As of right now, It takes me nearly 20 minutes to get through the first 10 questions on each arguments section. On one section recently I got 10 right but had 8 blank and 7 incorrect.

    I am increasing my understanding of question types from the core curriculum but it’s not translating into increased speed/accuracy/right answers when I take practice tests. Does anyone have any tips that actually worked for them and subsequently improved their timing? How did you increase your pace?

    Thanks so much 7Sagers!

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    Hey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary?

    Does it have the same concept as when you see both group 3 and group 4 indicators in one sentence.

    Example- If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not (not - group 4) a Koala Bear-

    Do we translate it into Lawgic as [S arrow K] or is it translated as usual [s/ arrow k/]

    Thanks in advance

    M

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    I'm trying to improve on seeing the flaw in the premise but I can't seem to break the glass ceiling here. I can do the 1 and 2 star ones pretty well but my problems start to occur at 3 stars and up, and I end up going to the AC's blind which is not the right way to go about it. The easy cookie cutters I'm decent at, but ones like PT58.S1.Q18 give me fits because I can't quite "See it."

    Any tips for helping to see it? I've been at this for a couple of years on and off so it is not a "I haven't seen enough", but rather I know its my approach mentally. Just would like a fresh perspective. Thanks!!!

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    Hey guys,

    I have been doing the fool proofing for games 1-35 and wanted to share what I do to save those trees.

  • I made one copy of all the games.

  • Placed them in plastic sleeves. (https://goo.gl/7JuuvP)

  • Use dry erase markers. (https://goo.gl/ncSw4f)

  • Use this stategy. (https://goo.gl/u8aPQL)

    • I place two games in each sleeves (front and back). I do my drills like 45 mins as many as I can do. Note the time for each of them in the bottom corner. By the end of it. I erase the one that I need to redo and leave the ones I did good. This way you don't have to make 5 copies of each game. Just 1 copy and tadaaa!

    I take the information and note it in a pdf sheet. This is a sample of the LG tracker. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3TW5io8o7AMCoBDLvSFr8HupWJqYynq/view?usp=sharing

    Hope this helps!

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