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Hi guys, I am taking the december LSAT, and I just tried practising this game. @"J.Y. Ping" doesn't explain this part of the game. Please somebody help.

Why does P HAVE to precede T?

From Rule 5 we know P precedes T, if F has left any message.

If F has not left any message the rule should fail, Thus P doesn’t have to precede T.

Thus in Q2 option E should also be right and we will be left with 2 right answers.

P.S. Sorry for not posting the entire game here, too much to type and not sure if it may constitute a violation of LSAT's rules.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-1-game-2

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Taking the LSAT Saturday, while reviewing some LR questions today I came across something that sucks up a bunch of my time. It's the silly word "generalization" !

This is a labeling question where we need to figure out the role played by the statement "for music is merely sound". Two of the answer choices begin with "it is a generalization..." and I struggled to quickly eliminate them. After about a minute on the question I was able to eliminate those answer choices and choose the correct answer, but I got stuck got longer than I'd like. Has anyone come up with a quick way to eliminate the "generalization" answer choice? I believe I've come across this option in previous prep tests and I can't recall any instances where this was the correct answer... anyone have an example of that?

Thanks and good luck everyone!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-4-question-22/

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Please explain to me how in the world can D be the correct answer. The colloquial word 'buff' is the only thing in its favor. How could an article containing words such as apoptosis, nuclei, atrophy be meant for a general audience? I found all answers horrible, but B was the only neutral one without anything ridiculous in it, and so I chose it.

Thanks for your help!

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I know that LSAT PT 69 has live commentary - are there any other PT sections with this? I seem to remember seeing some live commentary in the 70's but can't find it now

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Hi guys,

So here is what I have written down in my notebook as a problem I am having. If you have any good solutions please let me know.

So this is what I have written down today in my notebook:

1. When the question asks to refer back to specific passages, correctly identifying the referencing passage is key.

2. After the referential passage is correctly identified, the section of the paragraph should be read in sizeable amount as to capture the underlying meaning in a complete or sufficient manner. Even if there is a passage break in between, the beginning of the next passage should be read as well to identify for any hints.

3. A question can be made difficult by the author through applying referential phrasing in the sentence which it directly is referring. Under such circumstance, patience and care should apply and the main intended topic needs to be draw-out through back solving.

4. A question can be selected wrong for this set of questions when there is a answer choice that directly points out the main point of the passage. Under referencing questions, this reference only applies to the sentence which it is pointing instead of the main point. The brain has a tendency to go with the familiar without actually drawing a constraint for the task at hand.

Please let me know how you deal with this situation.

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I'm totally lost with this question. So when the Hvirus inserts itself into a chromosome of an animal, fragments of the virus are passed onto the descendants. The zebra finch and junco both have the hvirus fragments in the same location. They diverged 25 millions years ago, so therefore the hvirus is 25 million years old.

I just can't see any assumptions the argument is making. In my opinion, C might weaken the argument if the insertion occurs at a random spot. Doesn't this contradict that the fragments are in the same location?

Thanks!

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The correct answer is B. However, I originally selected A because this answer seems to be linked to the premise following the conclusion. Answer A incorporated the information that came after since, which is a premise indicator.

Can someone please explain why A is wrong?

Can someone explain what may be the best method to avoid choosing the incorrect answer again with similar stems?

I always have looked for premise indicators because they are very important when selecting the correct answers. I do not want to be fooled again.

Please assist.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-3-question-17

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I chose B without a second thought, also on the BR. I get why A, C, D do not work. I do understand that E is descriptively correct, but I still consider the claim in question to be a conclusion, therefore making B acceptable. Could you please persuade me that the claim is in fact not a conclusion?

This is my reasoning for its being a conclusion:

Willingness to pay is not proportional to need, since in the real world, some people simply cannot pay as much as others. As a result (of the fact that 'in the real world, some people simply...), a price increase will allocate goods to the people with the most money, not to those with the most need.

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Near the start of this video lesson in the Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Questions group, JY points out that a stem which says, "Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the ... argument?" is actually a strengthening question and admonishes us not to confuse it with a MSS stem!

Yes, he gives a persuasive reason -- the direction of support is here consistent with strengthening and not with MSS -- but what the hell? If the stem isn't going to indicate the type of the question, why are we reading it first and using it to guide reading of the stimulus?

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Dear all,

LSAT has become my new drug now. And what JY had said, RC has become especially addictive. As such, I am more desperate to score high on this section. So here are my learning lessons for the 2nd week of learning. And please feel free to share your opinions.

1) Concentration. You must concentrate when you are reading the passage. The number of questions that you answer correctly will be a direct reflection of your concentration. Likewise, this concentration extends all the way to answer questions.

2) Interest. I find that most of the times, you don't have to be interest in the topic but the way that the author is composing his/her point. I have found a way for myself to generate interest by playing what I call a "game of inspectors", meaning that I am always trying to find MP, connections, strong terms, reference, examples....And in general, I believe that every passage is a carefully designed maze and it is game that I have to get good at.

3) Structure. When reading, always ask the question, why the author puts this here and now. There is always a reason. And rarely I find them do it because they intended to be confusing.

4) Reading notes. Don't write like crazy next to the passage. A word or two. I find the fact that you are pushing the brain to process the information actually does a better job for later paragraph recall.

5) But do put in arrows or numbers (link to pt 4). Often times, there is some logical relationship, like the one that I just did, of something that relates with serotine and carb craving. That passage is crazy about A cause B cause C cause D that sort of stuff and when this happens, draw the arrow on the passage and not write a reading note.

6) Track referential phrasing. When the author uses "it", "that"...you have to be able to mark it and track it back. This a fraction of a second thing helps to do 2 things: 1) keeps the structure in constant check, 2) more recall and brain processing

7) Answering. If it is a easier question and you can smell it, just circle it. Or else, do process and elimination. And when it comes the time when you are 2/5 and tries to make a final decision, just believe your gut feeling.

8) Keep learning the passage in the answer choice. I find this especially helpful when doing harder passages. The answer choices do helps you make a double check on your understandings. So you can revise your initial map. So let's say you are doing question 4 and now you find the map is wrong and the question 1 answer needs to be revised, then do it. The questions are just another more targeted "tool" for you.

9) Enjoy the process. Feel the process and actually enjoy. Once you are able to break all the things down, then you are able to feel how sophisticated that the writer is. And often times, these writings are highly sophisticated. This attitude will snowball and get you to the next passage and the next and the next. And then you get addicted like me and just want to do another RC.

While I am only 2nd week into RC, I am constantly meditating on this as RC is not about reading.

Please share with me of your learnings. I be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Panda

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Holy smokes, did I get rekt on this RC. I normally average between -1 to -4 on RC sections, but this one was -7 and by far my worst PT in over a month. I did fine on blind review for the other sections, but I really struggled with time on this last passage and would love some help on the last question in particular.

27: Which one of the following is most analogous to the process, described in the last paragraph, by which the spread of thistles can be curtailed?

On the actual run-through, I was scrambling for time and guessed E - I eliminated C fairly quickly because none of the methods for combating thistle growth in the passage seemed remotely analogous to voter suppression. I eliminated D because similarly, I didn't see any part of the restoration method as similar to attacking the things supporting thistle growth (which I interpreted as, for example, heavy use of fertilizers). I didn't have time to work through the other choices, so I went with E because the two factions sounded somewhat similar to the two kinds of organisms mentioned in the last paragraph.

On blind review, I figured that while the researchers did conclude a diversity of both kinds of organisms was effective in restoring the native species (and thereby curtailing the spread of thistles), a diversity of disease organisms and beneficial organisms did not necessarily indicate an antagonistic relationship - in fact, it seemed to be the opposite upon closer examination of the text. I eliminated E as well.

At this point, I was trying to decide between A and B, and went with A because thought the last sentence of the passage, specifically "...if beneficial microorganisms are "sown" systematically into the soil along with a wide variety of native plant seeds" was somewhat analogous to tipping the balance of organisms from mostly "bad" to a perhaps more even balance of "good" organisms.

Obviously, this was still incorrect. I think I'm probably misinterpreting which specific parts of the last paragraph are analogous to the voter scenarios mentioned, but I'm having a hard time reasoning out what the "candidates" are supposed to be vs. the "journalists."

All in all, this just seemed like a really strange question, and I couldn't really remember seeing one like it in any prior PTs.

As a side note, I think this might be my inaugural post, but I've been lurking on these forums for a bit over a month and a half (I'm taking the December exam) and have found everyone to be tremendously helpful and kind. Cheers!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-3-passage-4-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-3-passage-4-questions/

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This is probably a dumb question - but I've been studying logic games by buying the LSAT preptests (usually in the 10 tests book form), photocopying them and doing the questions on the photo copied version. But I feel like there isn't a lot of space because I've seen some old 7Sage printouts (from the live commentary videos) that seem to have a ton of workspace. Is there a difference between how the 10 New Preptests books look compared to how the test looks day-of?

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My LG scores were already so-so on the earlier tests (-6-7 per section), and dropped like a sack of bricks when I started doing preptests in the 70s (so far have done 70 and 71, 72 slated for tomorrow). I'm taking the December LSAT and it's pretty clear that the logic games are make or break for me. Thoughts for the next two weeks?

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Here's the link to the question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-3-question-20/

Okay. I'm confused why (A) is incorrect. Isn't the stimulus just an instance of us evaluating legislation... that is, aren't we determining whether or not legislation that would limit TV programs is more (or less) harmful than the consequences of us not doing so?

Furthermore, in the stimulus, we definitely do consider the consequences of not passing the legislation...

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