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Namaste peeps,

This may already be out there so bare with me. As great as the videos and explanations for Games on the CC are, I have a hard time with space and sub-game boards with individual questions (right now I'm practicing with PT 33 Game 3). It's hard for me not to erase and/or I just run out of space. I'm practicing on a separate piece of paper just for the sake of learning. If there is a video (or videos) where certain games are done in pencil, that would amazing. It would help to see how someone writes everything in the space provided, including master game boards, conditional chains AND the specific questions without confusing themselves with there own handwriting (like me).

Bless y'all.

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I've read through TLS/searched the web and can't seem to find a clear answer on this topic. I was born in Colombia and migrated to the U.S. at 8 yrs old. I'm a first-generation immigrant & first gen college student. Is it true that Mexican Americans and Puerto Ricans are the ONLY Hispanic groups considered as URMs? Seems rather strange given Latinos from different countries of origin experience the same immigrant experience. I know it's a touchy subject, but would like to know if I should expect somewhat of a boost or not at all.

Thank you!!

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So in the debate between LR v LG...I'm one of those LG people. I'm averaging about -2/-3 on LG, but a brutal -9/-10 on LR. Specifically, I'm struggling with NA, SA, and Flaw questions.

Any advice/pointers/tips on how to tackle this hurdle? I just finished PT38 and am seeing a very consistent (aka through my past 3 PTs) pattern, namely that I STINK at NA/SA/Flaw. Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Tuesday, Aug 29, 2017

Prep Test C

Hi y'all,

Has anyone taken Super Prep PT C? I'm curious to hear what others think of the difficulty of this compared to others, specifically relevance to more recent ones.

I found it harder. The first time I haven't finished a puzzles section in ages. Anyone else have trouble, or just me?

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Hello everyone! Quick question:

I've been thinking long and hard about my personal statement and I've decided that I can write the most enthusiastic paper about a poker experience that I have had. I believe that this is a great story and would really catch the attention of perspective admissions staff. However, I am concerned that the subject matter may be viewed negatively, as poker / gambling can come with a stigma.

What do you all think about this?

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Hey Y'all,

The final stretch for me before the September 2017 LSAT is here, and once again I turn to you, the 7sage community, for wisdom and guidance (lol)

My score breakdown for my last 5 PTs falls into these ranges (all numbers are the # of questions I typically get wrong)

LR: 0-3

RC: 4

LG: 2-4

I now typically score just over 170. My last two PTs my LR has been near, if not exactly, -0.

My RC fell hard when I hit PT 70, but it came back up to -4 or less after that.

My LG for the past 10 PTs has been 2-4 wrong.

I don't know what to focus on. Tomorrow I plan on doing my 3 weakest yet the most rare LR questions and fool proofing LG games 72-76.

QUESTION: What should I focus on to ensure I stay in that 170 range come test day? I'm thinking LR And LG tomorrow, then on my next drilling day I do LG and RC. How does that sound? Any tips? Also, any recommendation on hard RC sections I can practice on?

Thanks!

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Aight folks. It has become a weekly habit of mine to give some sort of motivation on these forums. Even while my confidence falters (a 164 on my last PT, WTF!) I think hearing some motivating words always helps. Even if it's a fleeting moment of increased confidence it might help you sit down and do one more question than you normally would have.

This week I'm going to twist it a bit. It'll be motivation post but also a thank you. 7Sage is hand's down the single best LSAT community around. We all know about the other forums out there. Reddit, TLS, PowerScore etc. and we all have different opinions on them. The difference is, they all lack a few very important elements. Those forums lack compassion, respect for the human, and most importantly understanding of individual needs. You can be brutally honest with someone without destroying their confidence. You can give honest advice, without taking away hope and destroying their dreams and passion. This is how 7Sage is different.

Some people consider the 7Sage community to be "too nice." They think we fill each other with unrealistic expectations and don't face reality, which to a degree, might be true. What we certainly don't do is tell people their dreams are impossible. We don't put out their fire before they even get going; and we don't tell them things are not possible.

"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence." - Helen Keller.

The people on this forum offer optimism. They give the people the hope and confidence they need to continue chasing their dreams. They don't belittle them, instead they point out weaknesses and tell them to push hard to achieve their goals. They share experience and wisdom but they don't stomp on people. This is why each and every one of you is amazing. This test might seem like the hardest thing you have ever done in your entire life. This test can bring people to tears of frustration. The important thing to know is you're not alone. 7Sage is a community of people that are all in the same boat. We ALL can improve on this test, and we ALL run into plateaus and walls. 7Sage is a group of people who have never met, and yet can call themselves friends. Nothing brings people closer together than a common struggle, and for each of us the LSAT is a struggle.

Thank you 7Sage for being amazing people. Keep it up.

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Hey, guys! Has anyone ever felt like everything is starting to crumble for them? LG has always been my best section but now I can go -6! I get life and all that but OMG! I've been at this for far too long and it's time to pull the trigger already! It's not burnout. I take breaks whenever necessary. I was doing LG yesterday and actually had to go back to the curriculum to clarify a rule using group 3 and 4 indicators, smh. Thats 101! I know we have highs and lows but this is crazy and scary for me. Thoughts??

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Monday, Aug 28, 2017

Stressed

I postponed the September exam and I am planning on taking the December test. I'm averaging 157 on timed and 170 in BR. Each day I am working my ass off doing timed LR sections with very diligent BRing. For LG, I'm at PT 28---slowly grinding out fool proofing.

After BR, when I see the right answers, it kills me because I see how perfect the right answer choices are. On the answers I get wrong on BR, most of the time I am down to two answer choices. I feel like I have a solid grasp at overall LG and LR understanding. As for RC,I have set it aside for right now as I am not horrible at it.

Despite what I think my understanding is, my scores say otherwise. My question is in regard to how realistic a 173 would be by December? My best and most recent PT was 49: 157 timed, 172 BR.

I am stressing because I want this score more then anything, but it does not seem like I am getting anywhere.

It would be a bit much to type out my entire method of studying, but I do BR very seriously and I BR every single question over again on a clean sheet.

Any advice would be very kind, thank you!

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" Most people who shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month buy prepared frozen dinners regularly. In Hallstown, most people shop for groceries no more than 3 times a month. Therefore, in Hallstown most people buy prepared frozen dinners regularly".

Why is this an invalid argument?

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HI all,

I scored a 172 and have a 4.0 from a big state school and I think my lsac gpa will be about a 3.96. I'm trying for yhs admission and was planning on retaking in dec. because I scored a bit below where I was practicing. I'm wondering whether it would be more beneficial to apply early in the cycle and use the dec. test to potentially get off a waitlist, or wait until dec. to submit apps. I think the rest of my application is relatively weak compared to other applicants.

Thanks!

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LR Question Type drilling+BR vs. Timed Section+BR

Hello 7sagers!

I have worked through the fundamentals of CC (LR) and I now plan to drill LR questions.

I'm weighing between two options (which can be complementary)

A ) Drill LR question types +BR

B ) Do timed LR section +BR

Questions

  • Which of the two methods did you guys use when you first started drilling post-CC?
  • For drilling question types, how many questions did you complete per timed drill? (e.g. 15 questions/15 minutes)
  • Any advice will be much appreciated.

    Thank you!

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    Hi Fellow 7Sagers,

    I am wondering what other people do prior to the test, on test day - meaning, ritual, warm-up drills, things that they was successful or wish they would have done but didn't, etc. I have a routine, but I am always wanting to hear other people's approach. I have found that I miss an easy problem or two right at the beginning of a test, and I am trying to thwart that from happening due to not being in the LSAT mode. Secondly, if any of yall' are not "morning people" (like myself) - meaning I am slow to get my brain working at a high analytic level early in the morning - I am especially interested in what you have done to combat this (besides coffee! This caused me to get up to use the restroom during the 2nd section my first test, which I subsequently cancelled because of this!). I am taking the LSAT in Sept, so I figure this thread might be useful to others given the timing.

    My routine: do a hard logic game, do 5 LR questions that I know to be difficult, and do one reading passage. It is about a 30 minute warm up prior to heading into the testing center.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Although the LSAT is not supposed to test your vocabulary, in certain cases, deriving correct answers requires knowing the definitions of words that are not familiar to a notable portion of test takers. I thought it might be useful to make a list of these "somewhat-lesser-known" terms, especially those that have appeared on multiple tests. My rule of thumb is that if it's not core LSAT vocabulary, and might not be known by a freshman in high school, it's worth making note of.

    I'll perpetually add my own entries, but I hope you guys will post yours too so we can have a more comprehensive resource! I didn't see any other threads like this, but please link me if one indeed exists.

    Would it be worthwhile to have the Oxford definitions under the definition, or would the convenience not compensate for the extra clutter?

    'Idiosyncratic' ~ PT 69 S3

    'Impasse' ~ PT 69 S3

    'Laudable' ~ PT 69 S3

    'Posterity' ~

    'Reconcile' ~

    'Relinquished' ~ PT 69 S3

    "Semblance' ~ PT 69 S3

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    Hi Everyone!

    I'll be wrapping up my CC this week and plan on taking my first PT next week- tentatively on Wednesday, I'm giving myself three days before to brush up on certain topics. My schedule will be, one PT a week for the month of September and come October until the test in December, take two a week. I'm currently studying full-time (6-8 hours a day-weekends off). Any suggestions which PTs I should start with? Thanks in advance!

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    LG used to be my perfect section. But now that I'm getting to the late 60s of PTs, I'm finding myself missing multiple LG questions.

    I'm freaking out right now because I missed -5 on PrepTest 68's LG, and -3 on PrepTest 67's LG. Before, I've consistently been doing -0 or at worst -1. Were these tests just anomalies??? Or are these indicative of future tests to come?

    How have you all approached the more modern games differently than those in the early 60s/50s/40s?

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    I am in need of a tutor to improve my RC score. I simply cannot seem to get a good grasp on RC.

    Does anyone offer tutoring? I'm doing great on all other sections, but RC is kicking my ass!! Taking the Sept test in a little over 2 weeks.

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    Hey Sagers,

    This is a question for those of you who have been doing LG for a while. I'm trying to perfect my timing for LG through slight method and strategy changes.

    Was hoping to just get some insight on different ways people approach "naked" questions on the LG section. Most notably "must be true", "could be true", etc. that leave a lot of open-ended options. I have a few random strategies I employ for these questions but no systematic approach. I always do all the "if" questions first so I can write out my gameboards and use those to potentially answer naked questions after, and that is helpful. But I also feel there are other strategies I could be employing for the naked questions. I often can get stuck on them because I feel overwhelmed and end up wasting a few precious moments.

    I have come to realize that when I feel stuck, best thing is to just start brute forcing through, which is sometimes all you can do, but just wondering if people had other strategies for naked questions? This is just the last leg for me trying to make subtle shifts in strategy so that I can get the LG section in time and hopefully leave myself with a little extra time to do those horrible substitute condition questions :)

    I feel confident in my ability to do LG and nearly always score perfect under untimed conditions, but still struggling to get them done in time under timed conditions without rushing at the end.

    Thanks for any tips on naked questions if you have them!

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    Monday, Aug 28, 2017

    "Almost All"

    Hey All,

    Logically, what does "almost all" translate to? It seems that it should be more restrictive than "most", but I'm not completely certain.

    Currently looking at PT79.S1.Q18 for anyone who wants context.

    Thanks.

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    Hello 7Sagers!

    Within the past few months, I have had a friend and a family member both offer their help in helping me prepare for the LSAT. However, these individuals do not have any knowledge as to what the LSAT tests students on, but they are more than willing to see me reach my goal by offering a different way/method in studying (which would be their help). Do you guys have any advice on how someone who is not taking the test can help another prepare for the LSAT? Thank you so much and I pray the best for you guys!

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