Is going to a t100 law school like Syracuse or Buffalo for example worth it? I've been told that if you don't kill the LSAT and get into a top ranked school, there's no point. I just keep getting so much mail from schools like Hofstra, etc, that I know are low-ranked schools... just don't know if I should even be considering them if my LSAT score isn't through the roof.

Love Tim Minchin's 9 Life Lessons video that is spreading thru-out social media. For those that have tunnel vision towards Dec test, hope this provides a moment of levity during your prep!

Wishing you all the best in the passionate pursuit of your short-term goals :)

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In all seriousness, I have managed to get good at every LR question except for this one. I am hovering at 70%. I believe my problem is that I have memorized the list of recurring flaws, and after I read the stimulus, if I do not immediately recognize the flaw, my prephrase is screwed. Any advise on getting my flaw questions close to 85-90% would be greatly appreciated.

I attended the San Francisco LSAC Forum yesterday with a lot of questions regarding my status as a splitter. It was EXTREMELY helpful to talk to the school directly and to ask them how to approach my situation. It gave me both a boost in confidence, and a strategy for each individual school.

Each school repeated the typical "we have a holistic approach" mantra but then followed it up with some advice on how to show them you are a different candidate than your record might suggest.

A couple of examples;

U.C. Irvine - While they have to consider grades, they will break it down by year and history. For example; I had bad grades in 2008-2010. This was almost a decade ago, and since then I have considerable experience in the military and work force as well as a 4.0 form my undergrad college. They will draw a red line on my application to note this distinct change. Their suggestion? SEND MORE LETTERS OF REC. For someone like me, with work experience, he said it would be invaluable to receive 3-4 letters of recommendation. One from each aspect of my life (work/school/military) in order to show work ethic and to show I'm not the person I use to be. I wouldn't have known to do something like this without attending the LSAC Forum.

University of Virginia - Told me to focus on my work experience. The grades were so long ago that if I focus my application on work experience they would probably get a better idea of who I am today. This will help them to "excuse" my past discrepancies because they can see a notable change in who I am. She even gave me her contact info to reach out to her if I have more questions about this. They said while my LSAT is low (163) to submit the application, retake the LSAT, and then have them look everything over. She said I sounded like an interesting candidate and wishes all the best for me.

I am SUPER pumped to go to law school after talking to the 10 or so schools at the LSAC forum. It really helped to break down the wall between me and these schools. It helped me to understand that these people are humans, and they won't devalue you for past mistakes, if you give them a good reason to value you now.

Please, do yourself a favor if you are a splitter, and try to get to one of these forums!!!

I just finished writing my personal statement. While it is about an event that changed my life, and the way I see hard situations, I feel like I was not able to communicate that through the story. There are too many details that I feel need to be included, which leaves me with no room for "what I learned" type stuff.

Is anyone either willing to read my PS and help me incorporate that stuff, or have suggestions on how to give details of the event while saying I learned XYZ?

Basically I want to convey the messages of;

I've learned that you shouldn't judge people by their actions alone

I learned to deal with stressful situations in constructive ways

I learned the value of working with other people and relying on others

Edit: It is also a very rough draft still and a bit too long in its current state.

Does anyone have a decent indicator of how much your everything else factors into your apps? I'd have a 3.64 gpa after this semester, with some experiences like campaigns, interning for a district court judge for four months recently, being an Eagle Scout, other Scouting experiences (16 years now), and chairing/leading a strong nonprofit in my community for almost a year

What are some questions that you find infuriating? I will occasionally come across an LR question during BR that's just straight up maddening. I've recently experienced this with question 56.3.21. It just pissed me off. What the hell, man! I realize this is due to confusion or an initial misreading of the stimulus. I find the more subtle LR questions the most anger-inducing. I will usually take that as an indication that I need a break. Anyway, don't hate what you don't understand. What about y'all? Which LSAT questions do you find the most frustrating?

Took GRE cold and score 164V/168Q. Have a below median LSAT for harvard.

Even tho each a few points below close to perfect scores in GRE sections, the percentiles are only 90-95% for these sections.

Is this 164V/168Q gre strengthens or weakens 170 LSAT score for harvard? Should one retake this GRE?

I could not find anything to prove the conclusion > few people understand current events> and did not see the flaw the LSAT makers identified.

Here's is what I did:

Tried to create conditional statements but did not understand how to represent Appreciation of Significance.

TV --> DI and DOC

Newspaper --> DI and DOC

Fully understand current events ---> DI + Appreciation of Significance

Since > few people who seek out news sources other than newspapers and TV> was a premise I took it to be true. The conclusion jumped and inferred > few people ever understand current events>. There was nothing sufficient to prove the conclusion. Wasn't that the flaw?

Tried pushing forward to say that those other people must have been the few, but it still got me nowhere.

What all did I miss? Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-19/

Hello all,

I just wanted to see how everyone ‘studies’ and see if I’m on the ‘right track’. I’m going through the CC for the first time. How do you approach the problem sets? The lessons? Explanations? For example, even though I know why a certain answer is right I watch JY’s explanation to see what I might have overlooked or didn’t think of.

So its me again...

I am really struggling with LR, especially necessary assumption questions and flaw questions even though in my head it feels like I completely understand flaw.

So I want to get a 163+. My BR has been at a 160 so I really just need to increase by 3 more.

The following are my BR scores for those who have missed my last post.

Should I just focus on perfecting LG and RC?

LR -7/-8

LG - 2/-3

RC -5/-6

I mean, I really should start focusing on timing now with only a month left..

I will write the February test if I don't score as high but some Canadian schools only look at the December test so I kind of have to do decent on this test.

Most schools take the highest right? And you can apply with an average December score with intent to take february and get a better one...? How do you let them know you anticipate another LSAT score coming in before them judging you on the one they have, if it's not sufficient to get in? I just want to make sure I go about it properly. Thanks!

I have a really bad habit of whispering the passages aloud to myself and talking to myself while I work through the problems :( Maybe I have ADD or something and saying things aloud helps me to focus, idk?? Obviously, I won't be able to do this on test day. Any advice from people who have the same problem and how to overcome this?

Hey everyone. So recently I have been thinking considering what it means to get really good at fundamentals and how you know when you have achieved exceptional fluency in fundamentals skills. I have always been the type of person to push ahead and not look back, but in the LSAT review is a hugely important factor. I came across a link that 7sager @LetsHigh5 made. It includes things like LR strategies by question type, RC strategies, LG and LR stimuli indicators and a ton of other incredibly useful things to memorize. I think that having these things memorized and understood will definitely give you a leg up on your fundamentals. All credit for making this should go to LetsHigh5. total boss move. This should be used an addition to CC review to beef up your fundamentals.

https://quizlet.com/LetsHigh5/folders/lsat-info-strategy-stack/sets

Instead of giving me the test center I requested for December, which is only 15 minutes away and which I requested well before the deadline, LSAC decided to give me a testing center that is an hour away - without traffic!

I emailed LSAC, but I've gotten no response. The test center change deadline is Tuesday... Am I just screwed or is there something I can do?

Hi 7sage community!

It's the night before the Los Angeles LSAC Forum and I'm a bit nervous. Have any of you attended these forums before? I'm what I hope to be a splitter (low gpa, high lsat), so I assume the networking might come in handy.

I'm just not sure what to even ask them, though. When you approach the table, do you introduce yourself and briefly talk about yourself? Do you jump right into questions?

Do you have any ideas for questions, aside from ones geared toward the school's programs?

Let me know. Thanks, so much.

My school's online portal has an option to place a transcript order but I'm worried about whether I need to include the Transcript Request Form. The note below states that "e-transcripts sent to LSAC do not require special handling" so I'm assuming that I do not need to include the Transcript Request Form.

Has anyone gone through this before? I called my school's registrar office to confirm that they use one of LSAC's approved electronic transcript transfer sources but I would feel better if another student confirmed this for me.

"For transcript requests with special handling instructions or that require attachments (e.g., PharmCas, NSF, etc.), do not proceed with this request. Instead, use the paper Order Request Form to order a UCLA transcript and submit in person or by mail with your attachment. Note: e-Transcripts sent to AMCAS and LSAC do not require special handling."

What does answer choice A mean to you? Coming out of Feb 1996 PT 14 Section 4 Question 10.

Question stem: The therapist's reply to the interviewer is most vulnerable to which one of the following criticisms?"

A) it precludes the possibility of disconfirming evidence

I'm having real difficulty parsing out the meaning. I thought the question showed a circular reasoning flaw, so I hope this describes circular reasoning...

After a bombed reading comprehension section on my last practice test, I'm doing some reading comprehension drills and trying to evaluate myself and my methods.

This evening I drilled from practice test 31. Not even half way through the third passage, I thought, "Who is this hoe?" (the author the passage was discussing). On the fourth passage, about philosophers advocating subjectivity or objectivity, I realized I was drawing on past philosophy courses and personal reading, comparing what I was reading to knowledge and beliefs I already had. I bombed the questions for this passage and in going through them, argued against the correct answers (angry at LSAT again). Again, each time I had to say, "Fine. I see where you're coming from."

Then I had something of a eureka moment: in general, I've been reading very defensively and evaluatively and thus closing my mind off to a set of interpretations of the core subject matter, any one of which LSAT can subtly amplify and design the questions around.

PowerScore said to read "aggressively" but I'm not sure that was the right word to use. I now think the right mindset might better be described as actively receptive.

Maybe in logical reasoning, the defensive/evaluative mindset is where you need to be, but in reading comprehension you have to relax a little and be more receptive.

Has anyone else had a similar experience or, at least, found they needed to consciously shift their mindset between section types?

Is there a lesson or webinar on how/when to use subscripts in conditional statements?

I see JY uses subscripts in some of the questions, but I often find myself using regular conditional arrows for the same questions.

If there is no lecture, could someone please break it down for me?

Thanks.

I am studying for the December LSAT this year, currently on the last practice test I took I got a 145. The last test I took was a few weeks ago, but now I am a little more than half way through the 7sage LSAT curriculum and I think I am understanding concepts much better and have improved on LR at least. I am wondering if it would still be possible to score a 150-155 on the December test. I am studying a lot and hoping to focus on PTs starting next week or the following week. I am in a 3+3 program and I need a 155 to get automatic admission. I also can take it in Feb again but I do not really want to do that since I am still a full time student. Anyone have any advice? Does this seem possible? I am nervous and a little lost!

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Hiya,

So initial diagnostic was about a 152, averaged around 155s and up on PTs. BR got me to around EDIT: 165s

I'm at 11h of the CC out of the 98h. My test is December. I cannot postpone as I have a waiver, whcih would mean I'd have to pay for this test, then the charge of rescheduling which I cannot financially do. What do you guys think I can reach with about 30h of weekly studying? (45h I could push it to as I understand virtually all of what he says at a 1.7x speed). Any other tips?

Hey all,

I was wondering what you all thought of this. My GPA and LSAT makes me competitive at a few schools - not a shoe-in but pretty dang competitive. Specifically, I'm thinking of sending a round of applications out to Georgetown and Cornell as soon as my letters of rec are completed (in 1 week). I'm really really confident in my letters and my personal statement. I'm slated to take the December exam to make me competitive for higher ranked schools, but I kinda wanna just submit some apps now so I can hear back from some places earlier than February.

Should I do it?