Here's my situation:

I've wanted to go to law school every since I was little. All of my life, things came easy to me, which is not necessarily a good thing. I got into IU and decided socializing and making friends was more important than spending the extra time I had studying, which I know is no excuse at all. I had one completely awful semester not because I wasn't trying, but because I had mono. I got a 2.0 that semester. It took me two years into my undergrad to realize I actually had to put more effort in if I wanted to have a decent GPA. Too little too late, I ended up with a 2.75. On a bright note, my GPA increasingly got better each and every semester.

Now, I took the LSAT last Dec. 2015, and did bad. I "studied" but not really because I was also taking classes at the time. I ended up with a 142. I decided to wait to apply to law school and work full time to build my resume. Fast forward to this Dec. 2016 LSAT. I feel more confident in how I did, but I truly won't know until the score comes back. I studied but probably not as much as I should have and my PT score was averaging 156. I think if I focused the next two months and took for my third and final time in February, I could do even better than that. What does anyone think about taking the LSAT for a third time? Does putting my application in that late make my chances drop even more than what they already are at?

With that being said, I have two previous professor's writing excellent recommendations for me. I am working with one of them on my personal statement and addendum's.

Obviously I know I'm not someone law school's want to admit because of my low GPA and low LSAT score, but my uGPA is not indicative of my ability whatsoever. I touch a bit on this in my personal statement/addendum. I want to stay in state, go to Indiana University, or it's sister school IUPUI McKinney Law.

I guess my question is: should I even continue applying? Will law school's take a chance? This is something I so badly want, but know it may be far fetched to think I'll get accepted... Any advice or insight will be helpful.

Thanks!

Currently I can get 15-18 right without time limit for each LR section , but cannot get more correct.How can I improve the correct rate?I am going to do the February exam, many thanks !

On the LR question boxed below, JY did not give an explanation as to why answer E was wrong. Please take a look at it real quick and then read my take below after.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-4-question-22/

My take: Answer D (the correct answer) is the exact same as answer E (if you switch positioning of the "if/then"), except that answer E says if NONE of the dairies meets federal standards whereas answer D says MOST dont meet them. How is E wrong? If most of the dairies dont meet federal standards and that results in pollution of the water, then of course we can say that if NONE of them meet federal standards then the water will get polluted. If anything, we can be more sure from none of them meeting standards that the water will be polluted rather than most.

An analogy of my reasoning: If in a city, most of the power plants dont work, than the whole city will not have power. Answer D is saying most of the power plants dont work, so there will not be power. Answer E is saying NONE of the power plants work, so we can definitely be sure there will be no power!

What am I missing?

Since I've taken the December exam my email has been flooded with Fee Waivers and Congratulations emails. This is becoming extremely overwhelming as its making me feel like I knocked it out the park and all the schools are interested in me. LOL Crazy I know because the scores haven't been released yet. But I have received 3x as many emails than September. Cant this be turn off via LSAC?

I keep seeing people write in the comments section "POE"...what does this mean

Hey guys :)

I'm currently doing my undergrad at UBC in Vancouver, Canada and hopefully will attend law school in the US fall of 2018. I'm looking at GPA entry requirements to schools and I've noticed that the GPA conversion chart used by the LSAC is very different from the one we use at my university. At my university my GPA would be a 3.3 but when looking at the LSAC conversion chart its a 2.0 which is extremely discouraging to see.

Do you know whether LSAC or law schools use your uni GPA or your LSAC recalculated GPA in regards to acceptances?

My uni counts 70- 79 as a B and 80- 89 as an A- to an A, whereas LSAC counts 70- 79 as a C and 80- 89 as a B. The class average for most of my classes range from 66- 70 as well so it would be extremely rare for someone to get 90+ and maintain a 3.5 + GPA. Do universities take this into consideration? Thank you <3

Heyo,

Unless I just totally bombed the Dec LSAT, I will be attending the University of Oklahoma School of Law next year. OU has a "1LS" summer program where you can get one 1L class out of the way and have 1 fewer class to take during the regular 1L semester. I've been planning on taking advantage of this program because I'm hoping to be in the top of my class so that I can possibly transfer to another school, or at least get a full ride from OU. However, I'm hesitant because 1LS classes begin just 10 days after my undergrad finals...not much of a break. Then, 1L classes begin just under 20 days after 1LS finals.

My other option is to take the summer off, work, save money, relax and do "0L Prep" (in the manner of this famous TLS user's advice: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77628). On the surface, I like this plan better. I just wonder if it would be better to participate in the summer program so that I will have one fewer class in the fall...my hopes to transfer are dependent on me being in the top of my class or at least in the top 5%.

Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts :)

(FYI I'm not going to OU because my GPA or scores are low...I'm participating in an "early entry" program where I get to begin 1L a year early and forgo my undergrad "free elective" requirements)

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Hello all,

I am sure you have seen this question pop up hundreds or thousands of times, but I like to get as diverse an opinion as possible.

situation:

I currently reside in San Antonio, Texas and will be applying for the following term. I have contacted St. Mary's law school, which is the only law school in San Antonio, and I am essentially a guarantee given my GPA and LSAT score from three years ago.

Plan for the future: My wife and I plan on staying in San Antonio completely. She has her own primary care clinic that she will run once she is out of residency so our chances of movement are minimal. There are plenty of law opportunities here, and even a few big law.

I understand that it is basically impossible to get into big law from a school like St. Mary's unless you are the top 2 or 3 percent of your class, but I am not sold on big law anyway. For me, I could be looking at a life of civil rights/ immigration law once I am done.

Given all of this, is a school that is in the fourth tier something I should be weary about?

I am going to spend all of my couple of years out of law school paying back debt, and will be fortunate enough to have some back up with my wife for any other expenses so the salary doesn't have to be hundreds of thousands of dollars out of law school.

What I do want is an automatic opportunity to work and build up my work flow.

I have done research about some of the firms in the area and St. Mary's seems to have a pretty good stranglehold on the region.

Have you guys seen something similar? Fourth tiers often holding par in the region they are in but falling flat the moment you get out of the region unless you are top of the class?

Thank you for any of your input. I am currently sending out applications, and any input is great input.

i am a physician and decided to go to law school and despite graduating with high honors and graduating from the university of Illinois very high in my class, I took the lsat will no preparation and scored 151, worse performance of my life , couldn't finish the test . Was admitted with a scholarship a deans scholarship, I was so dismayed with my performance and a month ago bought your books , a month later I took 4 prep tests on line and received 160, 163, 163 and 171. Your logic games were phenomenal , I now feel confident with any game, still miss a few but have gained great confidence Thanks Dennis

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I am hoping I can get some thoughts on what to do with running way over the 1 page length for resume. I have been working for many, many moons and managed to keep pace with my professional peers so I have some citations and stuff to put on. How many pages can the resume be? I don't want to leave anything off, but I am not close to 1 page.

OK this is a really stupid question, but here goes..

I was on the phone with an LSAC representative asking some questions about the February LSAT, and after I finished the conversation I said "thank you so much" and she said "you have a great day, bye" and I responded "bye." She was in the middle of saying "bye" the second time when I accidentally hung up on her. She had my LSAC account pulled up and everything, do you think she can put notes on my account such as, incredibly rude person? I'm a little worried about this..

Not sure if any of you guys have clue, but do you guys know how attendance and course offerings work in law schools?

My wife went to med school and they had a pretty loose scheduling system. All of their lectures were placed online, and were available in powerpoint. More importantly, they had a mandatory rule of needing to be in class 75% of the time.

The reason I ask this is mostly because there is a chance I have to travel away from home to go to law school, and will be driving 3 to 4 hours on the weekends to visit my wife (and dogs!!).

Obviously, I don't want to miss classes, but an ideal scenario would be one where I go to class Monday through Thursday and can get home thursday night and come back Sunday.

Does law school scheduling have flexibility like the mentioned flexibility of some med school programs, and do we get to decide our schedule in the second or third year like we did in undergrad?

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I applied ED to WUSTL. According to their website they should send a decision within two weeks of the application. I applied two weeks ago as of Dec 13. Does it mean they denied me with no notice? Is there still a chance that I will get in?

An amazing law student from Colombia has been named Hero of the Year for 2016. His story took my breath away and has given me motivation as I'm on this strenuous path and journey to pursue law. I'm sure you all will also find joy and benefit from Jeison's cause so I've attached a link:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/health/cnn-heroes-jeison-aristizabal/

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Hey everyone,

So I have been seriously considering some sort of sleep aid to help me form the habit of going to bed at an earlier time. The problem is I like to fight my sleep. Like I really fight sleep and I could be super tired.... So I have been thinking of trying out ZZZquill to see if that might help me just fall asleep faster. Have anyone of you tried it? Would love to know what you guys think.

Also, I want to give it up as soon as I feel like my habit of going to bed early has been formed. So I need it to be non-addictive. It says on the bottle it is but I do want to confirm that.

I want to go from this:

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To this:

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Do NOT test in Columbia.

Due to the experience in the overflow testing room, LSAC offered a cancellation and free retake, but replied that:

"Your concerns have been noted for consideration at future administrations; however, we cannot guarantee the same room will not be used again."

Proctors: The proctors were very polite and quiet.

Facilities: About 85% of test takers were seated in one of two large lecture halls, with tiered seating and plenty of space. However, there is a 15% chance you could be stuck in an overflow classroom. This classroom was crowded, and offered only single unit desk-chairs combos with inadequate space for taking the test. The smaller desk offers less than 12 inches width writing space. The "larger" desk offers about 14 inches width of writing space. I have photos that confirm this, but could not figure how to post.

The desks also have an angle steep enough that round pencils will roll off if not propped up. However, that wasn't a problem since no one had room on their desk for any spare pencils. People were allowed and encouraged to pull other units to them, and to use that chair space to store sharpeners, watch, spare pencils, etc. On both sides of the room, people had their units pulled directly against the wall to get as much separation from nearby test-takers as possible. It was ridiculous.

What kind of room: Lecture hall or small classroom

How many in the room: 75 or 26

Desks: comfortable seating, or single unit that required you to crouch forward throughout the tests

Left-handed accommodation: yes, yes

Noise levels: if you sit in the back of the first floor lecture hall, you can hear the building doors open and close throughout, the other two rooms are quiet

Parking: nearby street parking is free on Saturdays

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I don't remember when we started, but it was within a reasonable timeframe

Irregularities or mishaps: The test center director acknowledged the inadequacy of the overflow room before the test began. Multiple test takers expressed concerns, and he arrived to explain that ""I know you don't have a lot of room and that it's tight. I get complaints about this room every time, but it's the only room I could get in the building. If you want to cancel, I'll let you."

Obviously, no one walked out of the December test to take it in February, but several people (myself included) became even more frustrated to learn that he had used the desks and room previously.

Other comments: A conversation with USC testing center staff the following week indicated that they were largely unaware of the magnitude of the test, or the need to make notes that one could refer back to on following questions, which, given the inadequate writing space, required one to flip a folded test booklet back and forth throughout the test.

Would you take the test here again? NO! Under no circumstances would I ever risk getting stuck with a room that, by the test center director's own admission, offered a testing environment so cramped and inadequate that he offered to email LSAC with an explanation and offer of a free retest. Even if you live in Columbia, drive to Greenville, Charlotte, Charleston, or Orangeburg. They bid on at least 176 spots (number comes from conversation with test center staff the following week) and offer adequate accommodations for only 150. The additional spots are a lazy money grab by someone at USC.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December, 2015 (lecture hall) December, 2016 (overflow room)

Hey guys and gals, just a quick one. I'm going through all the "PROBLEM SETS" through the Ultimate 7sage Package and was wondering which prep tests JY uses for these questions so I can purchase them specifically.

Thanks in advance!

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Hey again everyone, so I've been studying for quite some time now, and as I mentioned in another post, I am still scoring quite low (mid 140's, mid 150's after BR) :/ I feel like I already know, or have a general understanding of how to approach most problems in each section, but as noted with my score, I can obviously go back to the lessons and drill again. I've already pushed back taking the LSAT twice since the September administration, and I'm debating if I should take the February or the June exam.

One of my concerns for preparing as if I were to take the February exam is, what I should do if, let's say I take one PT a week until February, I am still not scoring what I want, but I've exhausted those recent PT's?

In other words, If I'm concerned with prepping for February with recent PT's with the possibility that I may not reach my target score (anything 155-160 or higher), should I perhaps PT with older tests in the 40's or 50's? Should I just wait till June?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank y'all so much!

I'm looking for someone who is open to being a study buddy over Skype. Preferably someone who has started to blind review and is interested in doing about 2 tests per week (or one!) and is interested in blind-reviewing the sections with me. I'm aiming for Feb 2017 test date but will push back to June 2017 if necessary.

I'd like our study sessions to be productive to the both of us so while I am interested in blind review, I don't mind going over anything else, even if it's certain fundamentals, etc.

Hello all -

In my application there is a section for academic awards, honors, etc, and I'm wondering what this would be considered. For example, would each semester I made the Dean's List be applicable? I believe my Leadership Distinction obviously should be on there, but what about graduating Cum Laude, or a Honor's Society I joined?

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Hello all,

I've seen the word modality thrown around a lot in discussions. As related to the LSAT, and in everyday English, what is modality? Examples are welcome! Thanks in advance.