Any advice would be appreciated.

Maybe you have heard, but the newest argument is whether or not a fish is considered "wet" if it is under water. Im curious to see what the aspiring lawyers on 7sage have to say about this one.

So i just registered for the december LSAT and the only location available nearby was the long beach convention & entertainment center. Im wondering if anyone has taken an LSAT in this location before or knows what the test conditions are like.

At what point during your LG studies did you start to improve? I see a major uphill battle for me.

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Unless your hope is a full-ride (do they give those anywhere?), how do you plan on paying for law school? Outside of taking a cue from Kim K's surrogate and getting paid $100K to grow a celebrity's baby in my stomach, I'm not sure how else to afford this other than dreaded loans. :-(

Hey everyone! I graduated school in 2014. I was a good student, but not 'the best' though some teachers did take notice of me and some served as recommenders for jobs, or school activities. I haven't spoken to these teachers in a really long time, maybe 2-3 years. Is there a way I can gradually get back in touch with them for LORs for the Fall 2018 cycle?

So I am a weird bundle of splitter mess, I really want to start getting applications ready but I'm just not sure where I stand and where I can apply. While predictor websites are a good start they also don't take into account my story. I don't want to short change myself but I also don't want to reach so high as to be disappointed. So I'm here to ask for advice.

Notwithstanding my LSAT score this is what I look like so far...

2.7 cumulative GPA/4.0 Degree GPA - about a 4 year gap of time between the poor grades and the 4.0.

Non-traditional applicant - Work experience between undergraduate and starting law school.

Military service for 4 years (USMC) with 3 years of my post 9/11 GI bill left (Don't really need scholarship money).

One year internship at a law firm.

One year job with the federal courts.

Letters of recommendation from one undergrad professor and the clerk of the federal court.

Resume includes legal professionals as well as military members.

How would you even go about deciding on what schools will look favorably on this weird track record? I feel like it's almost 100% dependent on my LSAT score...so should I just wait tight for that?

Hello good afternoon everyone,

I had a question on how are you suppose to approach Must be false question. I didn't see any lesson while looking through the core curriculum that specifically address this question type.

Sincerely,

Shawn

Hi Fellow Sagers!

I'm enrolled in the Admissions Course and I didn't see a section about law school in-person interviews - unless I'm missing something?

Have one coming up soon..does anyone have intel on what materials is appropriate to bring to one besides resume? Does bringing a copy of my personal statement make sense? Any tips if you've been on one?

Appreciate any insight! :)

Hi everyone,

So i'm thoroughly into 7sage now and i'm really feeling like this program is changing the way I originally thought about this test. I took the June exam and got a 154. It was a 10 point increase from my cold and I just self studied with the Powerscore books. I really didn't do that many prep-tests (I think maybe 3-4 in total). I knew I was underprepared.

Now that i'm getting in to this course, which I fully intend on finishing, I'm beginning to wonder who all has been in my shoes before. If anyone has ever done a retake after doing 7sage for the first time, would you mind sharing what type of change in results you experienced? Was it a small jump? A big jump? Did you feel more prepared for the exam? I'm trying to crack 160 with everything in me and i'm putting in as many hours as I can squeeze in to a day and not burn out.

Also if any 160+ people have any tips for cracking 160, please help a sister out!

Thanks everyone!

It's been awhile since I have done one of these, mostly because I took the REAL FREAKING LSAT last Saturday. Today I've decided to go with a theme I've seen pop up a bit on these forums recently.

Every single person on this planet is unique. We have all been forged in the crucible of life by different experiences, situations, opportunities and struggles. One person might face strife one day and endearment the next; while another faces love and then disappointment. What we cannot do is lose perspective of life and ourselves. Each person has a unique life story that is so personalized, so individualized, that it creates who they are. To compare ones life to another is futile because they are so disproportionately different from each other. What is hard for one person may come naturally to another, not because that person is inherently better, but simply because their life circumstances were better suited for that particular challenge. It's not fair to belittle the person who has a harder time, because I promise you they are better equipped to handle something that you are not. It's also not fair for the person who struggled to belittle themselves; just because it came easy to someone else does not mean you are incapable of achieving the same results.

Once we are able to stop comparing ourselves to others then things become more clear. Your personal challenges become evident. It is then up to you to focus on what you need to do to achieve your goals. I believe you will find the challenge much more manageable once you stop trying to be like everyone else. You can see your own weaknesses, you can personalize a path to your goal, and you can kill self-doubt because you are no longer worried you are "behind" or "unskilled" or "incapable". Then this is where people can begin to rely on each other. Once we know ourselves and our own strengths and weaknesses we can begin to offer help to others, and to take advice. We need to be able to admit that we are not amazing in every aspect of our lives and be willing to listen to others, while simultaneously offering our own wisdom and advice to those that need it.

John is 22 years old, fresh out of undergrad, a single Dad who works full time and is great at Logic Games.

Susan is a 42 year old mother of 3 who was once an accountant but wants to switch to the legal field and is a master at Reading Comp.

Both of these two want a 180....

Why wouldn't they help each other? These two people stand to gain everything by working together and stand to lose nothing. Stop getting lost in the competitive game of trying to be better than others and start helping each other.

Each and every one of you who took the time to read this is an amazing individual. You have the potential to be whatever, and whomever you want to be. It might not come easy, it might be a challenge, but you can still accomplish it. Look into other peoples lives only to help them and lift them up, never look down on them. The LSAT is one challenge we all have in common and we all struggle in our own way. Let's use this as a way to bond and to grow as individuals and not as a way to prove we are "better" than someone else.

I give you this seal....to do whatever you want to do.

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Curious on what people think.

My opinion is no since the average age is somewhere like 24-25 (or so I read somewhere) - however for those going at 26 you presumably won't graduate until 29-30 - could those "big law" jobs potentially go to younger candidates with the same qualifications?

Hello, 7Sage peers.

I was wondering if anyone can give me some insight on the September LSAT if there was any new LG, LR questions that we haven't seen before on Pretests?

Hey guys, who can I contact regarding a refund? I have decided not to take the December LSAT so I will not be needing the course.

I emailed Dillon on Saturday but have heard nothing back. Is there anyone else that I can reach out to?

If a question says, 'if blank comes before blank, but all other conditions remain in effect"....All other conditions refers to the game rules and/or any rules that were specific to a previous question as well?

Okay lets get real... how many times have you gone to the LSAC website to see if your score was available? lol

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I'm planning to take Dec exam so if anyone wants to do full practice tests (in the 70s) together, please msg me.

Hey guys

I've been grinding through the curriculum for the past two months and am on track to finish by the end of September. I was wondering if someone has in their possession a study plan for me to use that they personally STRICTLY abided by in order to maximize their learning. I will be sitting for the December LSAT and I would like to take as many practice tests as I can and drill as much as I can. I have all of the tests on record and the cambridge packets (for drilling my weak spots) in my possession. I just want to study as efficiently as possible.

Thanks guys!

The best advice is to wait until you are "ready" to take the test! The greatest gift is to take the test and achieve your score!

For some of us, that didn’t happen on our first take.

What happens if after taking the test and the experience leaves you stressed thinking you weren’t ready?

Before you get your score, please consider doing a thorough post-take written analysis of your experience. As recommended to me by the Sages in my attempts to match my PT scores to Actual test scores, I have seen significant improvement by following their advice:)

There are 2 aspects post-take that are paramount to gain from the experience…

-How did I procedurally take the test?

o Was my pre-test routine sufficient to provide the best testing experience?

o Was my timing strategy on point - Did I skip difficult LR questions, RC passages & LG games efficiently?

o Did I let a rough patch undermine my confidence in my ability?

What were my weaknesses that caused me to lose confidence?

o What LR questions, RC passages, LG games cost me time or points?

o Did I try a new strategy too close to test date that I hadn’t made instinctual - to think more about the strategy than what the test presented?

o How did I handle questions that are my known weakness and what can I do to drill them to remove that insecurity?

I learned so much from my previous takes! The first take is a blur - I had no clue what I was doing even with all of my prep to take it when I was ready. My 2nd & 3rd takes were exciting because I saw the differences in my understanding not just on certain specific aspects of the test but on a global understanding of how to conquer the test.

Hope you feel the same way I do with no regrets about being "Ready"... If you achieve your score, then LS application focus! If you under-preformed, then you have a game plan.

If a retake is on your horizon, hope this helps :)

All the best on your scores!!

Hi All! Hope you are all studying or awaiting your scores!!

I am planning to write in December 2017 but if my scores are not within the range I wish I will be writing in February 2018. I wanted to know everyones opinion regarding the February LSAT.

Has anyone on this forum ever taken the LSAT and encountered a difference from the other PTs or other exams they have taken? I am aware this is an undisclosed exam therefore many of us would not be able to answer this question unless you have taken the February exam. Please let me know what everyones opinions are! I appreciate everyones point of view!!

I was diagnosed with LSAT-itis.

After being poked, prodded, and measured... I was diagnosed with LSAT-itis by my college's doctor. On and off fevers, sore throat, serious drainage, sneezing, coughing, wheezing, and general exhaustion is the just beginning of the grossness. I've never been more confused in my life. I had come in for a routine check up on Monday and had briefly mentioned to the PA that I had just taken the exam that pass weekend. So when I came in Friday after being gross for days, the doctor saw in my record I had just taken the exam. She tested me for a whole bunch of stuff that all came back negative. After a moment, she sat me down and was like, "You have LSAT-itis."

Apparently i've was her 5th LSAT kid that week! My orders were a whole weekend of bed rest, DayQuil/NyQuil, fluids and Netflix. I complied happily lol!

So, this is a PSA: You can and will get sick after you sit for this exam if you aren't careful. Make sure you are getting enough sleep, eating right and working out. Be better then me.

Love from your favorite LSAT-itis victim,

Victoria

Does every law school require a law school report fee? And, if so is there any way to get a waiver for that?

I have 14 schools on my list on LSAC and that's almost $500 in total.

I am sure we all have spent a little too much time poring over the median admission stats for our top choices and studying the spreadsheets of the info of all admitted students...and then comparing our own data and trying to figure out what it takes to get a little (or a lot) $$.

SO I thought it would be fun for us to share stories of people we know who have worked hard, gotten into their dream schools, and bonus points if they got a scholarship. I'll start!

I know a guy who went to a little-known undergrad school and applied to law school in two cycles. First year he got a full ride with a high 160s LSAT score to the University of Washington but wasn't feeling Seattle...he retook the LSAT the following September, got a low 170s and applied that cycle to most of the T14...and then retook the LSAT again in December, got a high 170s score and Harvard and Stanford admitted him almost immediately, which could have been coincidental timing buuut I doubt it. He went with Harvard. I wish I knew the exact stats, but to ask always feels just a little too nosey.

So moral of the story...don't be afraid to keep working for that high score because it will pay off!

Looking for an LSAT tutor in the Greater New York Area or Long Island. Please pm me for my email. Thanks.