Hello guys.

I am following Starter program, but kind of feeling that I need harder problem sets.

I geared my study towards June LSAT, but recently rethought the plan, and I am still considering whether I should switch it to Sep. LSAT.

In that situation, I am considering upgrading the curriculum into higher ones that include more difficult problem sets. But my concern is whether solving many difficult problems before going to PT would be actually helpful. I think that just studying without knowing weaknesses (which are usually exposed by timed PTs) is not that efficient. Also, since for 3 months I self-studied LSAT through LSAT Trainer and feel familiar with each question type (also by help of CC) I am not sure whether I should practice each question type mode deeply by doing a lot of problem sets. (I usually get 17/18 in a LR section.)

My plan for now is to first complete CC at the Starter level, go into PTs as soon as possible and then purchasing new problem sets so that I could practice where I am weak, which will turn out by PTs.

I just want to hear what you guys think who are experienced more than me at 7sage.

Thank you.

Has anyone taken this course, went through 1L (or is currently going through it) and can give their feedback on how useful KTCOOLS/Larry Law Law is? I've searched in previous posts on 7Sage and it appears that it's mostly positive reviews, but when I go on the law forums people say that it's a waste of time/money and 0L could be spent doing something else, because apparently the things that he teaches us is already taught in 1L. Is there anyone who has already gone through 1L/is going through 1L and used KTCOOLS who can give their thoughts on the matter? Am I just being overworried about 1L? Thanks!!

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Hi all,

I'm studying to take the September 2017 LSAT. I've just enrolled in the 7Sage Ultimate+ course. For those more experienced with the course, what advise would you give for someone starting out?

Should I just go through the syllabus..? Was there a particular study schedule that worked better for you?

Thanks so much!

hello, I'm using google chrome to print the preptest thats been uploaded as a secure document. But every time I press the print button, the printing "job" won't go through my printer. there isn't anything wrong with my printer since I can print other documents without any problem. Has anyone faced similar challenges? I would appreciate if anyone could share some solutions!

Some of you know that my dream school is UTA, but my scores fall below the qualifications, and I am in that 0-10% range in LSAC for acceptance. I am not expecting miracles here, but I was wondering if I could push my chances up by a point by sending in a "Why UT?" essay to the admissions office?

If so, how do you go about that? Do you just send an e-mail attachment to the admissions office and title it with a "Why UT? Letter add on to admissions committee for consideration" type of thing? Also, if I wished to add an addendum , could I do the same?

My application was sent in about a month ago, and it's possible that I receive an answer soon. I may be too late, as a matter of fact. Still, in case I am not, are these things I should do? Or is it best to wait it out at this point?

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Taking a PT on Monday under "true" test conditions has not given me enough time for a thorough BR before the Wed night BR calls - hence the move to Thursday:) If this change impacts you to not be able to join, pls let me know.

For June takers, we should be able to cover the LR questions and possibly discuss specific RC/LG on the calls. If we are tight as a group preparing for June, then we should be able to make it work to cover all aspects of the PT whether within the calls or working together to meet on other forums to ensure understanding:)

Here is my plan & hope you will join getting Test Day ready...

Look forward to what we can do in the next two months (3(/p)

Edited - Any feedback on "getting Test Day" ready welcome :)

Hello guys.

I am a beginner in 7sages. I have studied LSAT for 3 months by LSAT Trainer. I recently found out this site and am now running on CC. I posted this because I think I need some advice on the direction of my study before I go further in the journey.

To begin with, I am currently gearing my study to June LSAT, and my average PT score goes 17/18 in LR, 19/20 in LG, and 22/23 in RC. My goal is from high 160 to low 170. Among other sections, LR keeps me from getting higher scores. The reason why I started to follow 7sages' CC was to improve my overall abilities in LR, which is the most hardest section for me in terms of accuracy and timing.

But as for RC and LG, I thought I could improve them by doing what I have done for practice. For LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked 7sages video explanation for games that I had trouble in however little that trouble is. For RC, like LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked what I got wrong.

This being said, is it a good idea for me to stop doing these and follow CC first for LG and RC?**** The reason why I ask this question is that I had not enough time to finish the whole curriculum including LG and RC before June and am just considering skipping LG and RC portions in CC. I just want to ask this question to those who found difference in 7sages curriculum especially in LG and RC.

Thank you.

All the test sites in and surrounding the NYC area are full for registration for the June LSAT. The options are to either be on the waitlist or go to Philly (Philly is the closest site based on my NYC zip code). Does anyone know if being on the waitlist is a promising option? Should I go ahead sign up for the one in Philly and hope that a spot will open up here in NYC? Any insights will be greatly appreciated!

I had been studying part-time for the LSAT since last September (10 hours a week) with the goal of taking it in June this year. My full-time fellowship just ended 3 weeks ago, and since then, I have been studying full-time.

I just got a full-time job offer that is scheduled to start in 2 weeks, if I were to take that job offer.

(The job is supposed to be 9-5, but emotionally draining)

Right now, I think I have a pretty good hang of LR (missing 0 to -1 per section)

RC - I think I need to refine some more strategies, but not sure how long that would take. Currently missing anywhere from -0 to -5. It's inconsistent because I don't think I have a good hang of it yet.

LG- I just started to seriously study LG about 2 weeks ago. I am still in the beginner- intermediate stage.

Basically I feel pretty comfortable with RC and LR, but not LG at this moment.

After beginning to study full-time 2 weeks ago, I have been studying 8 hrs per day for 5~6 days a week.

I am wondering if now till June is plenty of time to master LG. LG is my most troublesome section, mainly because I have focused on LR and RC a lot more. Also, although I didn't take the diagnostics test, LR and RC were sections that I felt comfortable with even from the start; LG not so much. Would 2 and a half months be plenty if I were to just focus on LG every day for 5+ hours? I am utilizing the fool proof method. My goal is to score 175+.

I am asking this because if 2 and a half months is not enough anyways, then I might as well take the job offer and take the LSAT in September. I think the worst case scenario is studying full-time for the LSAT till June, don't feel prepared, and push it back till September without a job.

I am tutoring on the side and am making a living for myself as I am studying full-time right now, but I am a bit fearful of going without a full-time job for 6+ months...

What are your thoughts?

I'm currently studying for the LSAT in June, but I'm wondering if I should take it in September. I'm working full time, and I think it would just give my more time to do some PTs. I was wondering if I'll have my score back in time to apply early enough in the application cycle to get some scholarship? Just curious. Thank you guys for being so helpful!

I understand it is advocated by JY, specifically in MBT, sufficient/pseudo assumption and parallel reasoning questions. Even if one seems to be getting nearly every question correct without writing the conditional logic down (sometimes I internalize it, sometimes I just think about it intuitively), would you say it is still essential just for good measure?

What does it mean when an answer choice, as is the case in PT17, Sec. 3, #20, Answer D, says, "Fails to consider the status..." of something?

In other words, in this instance, what is the definition of "status"?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-20/

Hey guys,

So I just wanted to get some feedback on how I should approach my issue.

I took my first timed LR section and scored only 10/25 (I only got thru the first 15questions and then guessed for the rest because I ran out of time)

However, on BR, I got 21/25. I have been going thru the core curriculum for about 6 months on and off, and made sure I really understood everything before even taking a timed section. I had plans to take a full PT36 (this weekend) but thought maybe I should take a timed LR first to get a feel for how it is before I dive into a full exam. I just feel really let down by this to be honest. I have been putting in so much work every single day (drilling, practicing, watching the videos, practicing logic). I do see improvement because on my diagnostic i got 8/25 timed and only 10/25 when I tried to BR it without any knowledge of the LSAT.

I am really struggling when it comes to timing myself. I find that I cannot read as fast, and I often reread the stimulus when timed to get a good grasp of what it is telling me.

I also took a timed PT of games section. I froze on the games where I couldn't diagram. However, when BR, I was able to do really well on that section. I practiced a lot for LG too, constantly doing games, watching videos for hours and hours. I just find this really upsetting.

I have been studying on and off for the lsat and now full time for it. I am registered for the June exam.

What I want to ask is, at this stage should I just keep BR and practice timing myself? Or go back to the CC?? I have also read thru the LSAT trainer and reviewed the CC twice (second time just skilling thru the materials).

I feel like I have a good grasp of the core material, i'm just struggling to apply it when timed. I would really appreciate any feedback on what I should do.

Thank you :)

First off, I wanted to thank 7sage and its awesome community for its support through this LSAT endeavor. It hasn't been a smooth and silky road, but i've made it through thanks to some webinars, lessons, and chat discussions. Thank you all.

I took the feb LSAT, and the re-take was a moderates success. I ended up with a 165, froze on the games and had to blindly guess on i think 8-9 questions. Still, I got into the University of Washington with that score, and i'll soon find out about scholarship info.

Im happy that I was accepted, but because i was scoring 170-172 on my PT's, (and feeling like I could still improve), my aspirations were a bit higher. So now, I'm deciding whether to just accept this route towards UW or wait one more year to take one last crack at the LSAT. My s/o was accepted at her ideal university, also here in Washington, and my whole family is here as well, so there is that additional consideration of even if I do get a higher score on another take and get accepted to a goal school, would I really be emotionally able to leave? It's also just still kind of hard thing for me to swallow to accept this last take as final, as i've figured out (as much as i can) the anxiety issue that made me freeze.

These thoughts have just been bouncing around in my brain for a while, and mostly I think just writing/posting this will help the decision making process. But still, any thoughts/opinions?

Thank you all again for being such an awesome community these past months.

I've been tearing up for the past hour haha. Never imagined I would be making a post like this on 7Sage.

Just wanted to thank this awesome community and @"david.busis" . The advice I received on this forum and blind review calls has been invaluable.

(3(/p)

3 months into my LSAT prep and I thought I had logic games down, but I just attempted PT "C" and was surprised how difficult the games were. Went -3 in 41 minutes. Is this section particularly more difficult than the other ones? On the bright side, it was a fun section! Glad to know there's still room for improvement :)

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#5) over four nights (three hours per night) for five students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.

Schedule

Session 1 - April 28, Friday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 2 - April 29, Saturday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 3 - April 30, Sunday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 4 - May 1, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

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Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.

#Frequently Asked Questions

Q: How will you select which five students will participate?

A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.

Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?

A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.

Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?

A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.

Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?

A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.

Q: What materials are used in this workshop?

A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.

Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?

A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.

Q: How do I attend the workshop?

A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.

Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?

A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.

Thank you 7sage. The waiting process of admissions has been brutal but this week I got into both of my dream schools! None of this would have been possible without this amazing community. I cannot say enough times how awesome 7sage is and everytime I see what is new it seems to be getting better and better. I love this community and owe so much to many people here. THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!

@"Dillon A. Wright" Dillon, I added a few random questions to the shopping cart in order to test the printing function for my blind review. I do not see a print function/option. Can you tell me how to print my question bank questions?

Admin edit: You can now print questions in PDF from the Question Bank:

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Hey guys! I'm super stoked. I finally hit -3 on RC! I have been stuck at -4 for over a year! Now I know I should be striving for -0 but let me have this moment! LOL I was just as excited when I hit my first -0 on a passage. I've been loosely using Nicole's method for sometime but recently I decided to get stricter with it. Sorry, I don't have anything to add about how I achieved my one point success. It's nothing new. I was just super geeked and decide to post! Somebody feels me, I know! Have a good day, yall!!

I was wondering if anyone has a schedule they follow for fool proofing logic games? I usually just do one the next morning, and schedule that same game about 2-3 days later on a calendar, but I was wondering if anybody has a different routine?

Thanks in advance!

If LSAC does not process your transcript before the application deadline, are you just screwed? I know you can still submit your application to the school even if your transcript and LORs are not processed, but do the schools consider your application to be incomplete and just not accept it?

I can't see why (E) is wrong. Could anyone explain why (D) is right?? Appreciate in advance

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-2-question-04/

The correct answer to this question is information that would help to evaluate the argument in the stimulus. If the information is taken to one extreme, it will strengthen the argument, and if the information is taken to the other extreme, it will weaken the argument. Under this standard, why isn't (D) correct?

The argument breaks down as follows, imo:

Premise: A nearly complete skeleton of an earlier dinosaur that was not a T.Rex had the T.Rex characteristics (big head, small arms, long legs), but was much smaller in size and lighter than the T.Rex.

Conclusion: The T.Rex's features (big head, small arms, long legs) did not develop in order to accommodate the size and weight of the T.Rex.

I understand why (B) is a question that would help evaluate the argument, but why isn't (D) considered information helpful to evaluate the argument?

If the earlier dinosaur is NOT related to the T.Rex, then wouldn't that weaken the argument by leaving it more vulnerable to the objection that some difference between that dino and the T.Rex explains the counterexample away? And imagine if the dinosaur was almost exactly the same as a T.Rex (so extremely closely related) -- wouldn't that strengthen the argument by strengthening the relevance of the counterexample and making it harder to distinguish it?

Let's go a little bit outside the stimulus to explore this issue -- if we had found a mammal skeleton that had the T.Rex head, arm, and leg characteristics, but the mammal was tiny, would that evidence be just as powerful as the skeleton evidence in the stimulus? If not, then doesn't that prove the relatedness of the skeleton specie and the T. Rex IS helpful to evaluating the argument? And if the answer is yes (that a mammal skeleton would be just as powerful as a dino skeleton as evidence for the conclusion), how?

Thank you for any thoughts.