Is taking two pretests the week of my actual LSAT too much? I don't want to get burnt out but I feel like the more I take the more prepared I feel. Advice anyone?

I need your help reasoning through taking the June or October test.

I am 30 y/o working professional with a masters degree looking to make a career change. I've been seriously planning to go to law school for 3 years now. I started with the PowerScore books in 2013 and those did not work for me. Then I had an intense job and had to prioritize that. Then in fall of 2015 I took an intensive in-person prep class but I got behind because of my 60+ week work schedule at the time and didn't finish the class. I found 7Sage in September and I've been committed to studying since late November. I love it because it's on my own schedule. Also it's been the first prep material I've done that actually makes sense.

I would like to apply by November 15th/December 1 to law school at the latest.

I have about 100 more hours of core curriculum to finish. I was originally planning on the June test but with my schedule it might be tough, maybe not, I don't know. At the most I can find 12-15 hours per week to study (on a good week) and about 4-8 hours on a crazy week.

What are your thoughts? Target October? Is it too late for the application timeline I've set out? Will I still be a competitive applicant? Or take June and October?

Thanks!

Hi 7Sagers,

If you’ve done an an interview this cycle, help out your fellow applicants and tell us what you remember. What was the format? What were you asked? I’ll compile the answers and put them in the admissions course, but I won’t use your name.

What is a good warmup for the day of the test? I noticed when I do logic games shortly after I wake up in the morning, the first time I make some sloopy mistakes and miss questions I could have easily answered correctly. However, the second time around I am much more sharper in mind and less likely to make careless mistakes. Any tips to warmup my mind to perform at optimal level for test day?

Hey guys,

I have read here that most people consider taking a PT everyday generally a negative thing for LSAT preparation. Is the reasoning behind it just due to fatigue or are there other reasons?

Am asking cause my plan was to taking a PT each day this week to just get more comfortable with the exam (haven't taken a lot of PT's yet).

I guess I have a 2 part question in a way. First, I have been working on SA questions and I'm really having trouble putting everything together under timed conditions. I was fine with the questions that JY does to introduce you to SA questions (I would try to solve it before watching). Its like my mind starts to race and skips every other word when the clock starts. I don't want to use up too many of the problem sets under non-timed conditions but I'm finding myself having to do this to understand the question.

Any suggestions on what I should do? I get the logic part, but I just seem to fritz which leads me to my other question.

My biggest weakness is mentally focusing when under timed conditions. Like I said above, my mind gets fritzy and I lose all focus; especially if I don't understand what I'm reading the first time because I know I'm wasting precious seconds.

Any tips on what has worked to keep your mind calm and focused during PT's/actual tests?

In the Powerscore logical reasoning bible (under conditional reasoning) there is a statement saying "No robot can think." They say that the diagram is R ---> /T (if an entity is a robot, then it cannot think). Im just confused as to how being a robot is the sufficient condition, and in general how they got this diagram. Im also getting confused on how they describe these relationships.

So. I've been in the LSAT/Law School admissions process for a while.

But something happened that I've never seen before today.

A friend of mine applied to a T20 law school.

He/She has solid softs, great life story, and her/his numbers put her squarely in the medians for the school.

He/She has one more LSAT take left and was training hard for her/his take in February.

My friend received this message from the school:

" Hello (Name),

Thank you for your email. If you would like your file complete now, you will need to cancel your February 2017 test registration and email a confirmation of the cancellation. Feel free to contact our office if you need additional assistance.

Best regards,

(admissions person) "

Is this normal??????

It seems like some type of garbage way to yield protect.

Would love some insight on this.

Hey guys,

I have finished the curriculum and I'm planning on taking the June LSAT. I feel kind of stuck about where to go from here. Should I take practice tests and blind review? Or should I work on timing with some sort of drill? I'm super slow at answering test questions and I'm not sure what the best way to get faster is. I have only taken 2 practice tests so far. I feel a little overwhelmed and I just want to make sure I'm making the best use of my studying time. Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks!

~Danielle

Over the past three months, I completed the 7sage course and the Powerscore LG Bible. I took my first post study practice test and scored a 162 and -5, -5, -6, -6 on my four sections so there is no glaring weakness in a particular section for me.

I am planning to take 20 practice tests before the June 2017 LSAT and I am aiming for a 167+.

Is this a reasonable expectation?

How big of a score increase do people usually see after taking lots of timed PTs?

THANKS!

Thanks!

I went through the RC in the 70's to try to glean some more information and feel more comfortable going into the sections. Nothing super profound, but I was at least able to categorize them by their most common types. Feel free to add any other common structures that you find!

Straight/Regular Passages:

Comparative Passages:

Passage A:

Passage B:

Hi,

My recommendar asked me to email the transcript too.

I have never been asked to give a transcript to a professor, so not sure this is common.

Did you show your transcript to your recommenders?

Thank you.

This is a two part question in reference to the embedded conditionals video.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

Part 1:

Put the following sentence into Logic and contrapose it:

If the seeds are planted in the winter, then flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied.

SPW --> (~FA-->~FB )

which more clearly is:

SPW and ~FA --> ~FB

contrapositive:

FB --> ~SPW or FA

Part 2:

Down in the comments someone asked:

What if the parenthesis are around the 1st and 2nd elements? ie. [A -> B] -> C.

JY responded with:

Original: (A–>B ) –> C

Contraposed: /C –> /(A–>B )

Group 3: /C –> /(/A or B )

De Morgan’s: /C –> (A and /B )

Simplified: /C –> A, /C –> /B

Or alternatively, we could have applied

Group 3 translation rule first: (/A or B ) –> C

Simplified: /A –> C, B –> C

Where did the Group 3 come from????

I got lost in his explanation there.

Can someone answer that question or maybe explain it in a different way. I feel like it's very obvious, I'm just not seeing it right now.

Thank you!

Hello! So I'm fool proofing the LG bundles now, at first I was doing like 6-7 new per day. Now I'm finding that by the 3-4 new LG/day it's a mental drain & I didn't take into consideration the repeats. Does anyone have a good number of LG/daily that's realistic for daily routine while keeping up with RC & LR. I'm trying to finish them within 2 months. Any feedback will be really helpful :-)

Which LG are the most relevant nowadays? I read somewhere that if I have limited time to prep, then 50 - 79 would be best to master. Should I include even before 50, or perhaps even after 50?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Little background: After going through entire Powerscore (Bibles) curriculum, i recently started 7 Sage. Initially, i was confused regarding how fast i should go through the core curriculum (CC) on 7Sage. Mentors here unanimously advised me to go through entire CC and ensure that i absorb all the content taught in CC.

I want to ask the community what are the best practices / Strategies that they have applied when in CC phase of their LSAT prep? Could you please expand on how much note taking you did? And what did you do to reinforce the important concepts? Feel free to elaborate on any other important point in terms of going through CC.

Can a highs corer share his or her views on this?

Hi everyone,

After joining the last webinar I realized that I am not the only one who is studying with repeated preptests which that was a relief. I'm planning to write in June but if need be I can write it at a later time. Right now I'm using old preptests and use 1-15 tests as my experimental section. I have only 4 new tests (all recent ones) and I'm keeping them to write in March, April and May. I extensively BR each section. I know my scores are inflated and I know I remember at least 4-5 questions (mostly from LR). Sometimes I write the test in 33-32 minutes, and other times I give myself a penalty for those questions I remember(spending more time for the questions as if I was BR ing them). I'm keeping track of my scores and I'm having an upward trend.

I started studying from September but not knowing where I'm sitting right now at this point is discouraging and is anything but motivating. Sometimes I wonder what if I'm not improving or if all these efforts are futile!. For those of you who practiced with old materials how did you cope with the mental and emotional exhaustion of it?

Thank you so much:)

I have a question for answer choice A for the second question on "mental contortions." Although I got this question correct, I was really hesitant on marking A the right answer due to the word "beforehand." In the context of the passage, it states that "judges' instructions to juries to ignore information learned outside the courtroom" could not be "relied upon," and such instruction would become "mental contortions" to the jurors.

In my mind, information learned outside the courtroom (where prejudice can be formed) can be formed not only before the trial, but also in the middle of a trial, and therefore, I thought answer choice A was incorrect as it limits the scope to only before the trial (hence, descriptively inaccurate). However, I eventually chose A because all the other answer choices also limited the scope to "pretrial," which really confused me...

I'm actually a native South Korean student, so I may be unfamiliar with the concept of a "trial." If we are to assume that there is a certain case that lasts several days, and the parties of the case go to court several times to dispute the case, to my understanding, this as a whole would still be one trial. Therefore, I thought that juror prejudices could be formed in the middle of a trial (or, during a trial), as they would go to court, and then go home (get information outside the courtroom), then go to court, then go home, etc.

I would really like some clarification on this and any help would be great!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-questions/

Logic games used to be like another language to me but it has gotten to be my best section as of now. However, when the clock is ticking, everything i know about LG seems to go out the window. When I BR my test (during untimed conditions of corse), all the inferences that i should have made under timed conditions come to me almost instantly. Its extremely frustrating that I can do them but the pressure of time prevents me from performing to my full capability. I imagine it is because one can reasonably anticipate what the RC and LR will entail but with LG they can really throw anything at you. Does anyone else have this issue? Any tips or advice would be appreciated. I really want to get LG down pat as i'm taking the lsat next week (Feb 4th). Freezing up on LG is dramatically bringing my score down from what it can be even though I feel most prepared for it.

Hello everyone,

I took the December LSAT after studying for 4 months. I did a bunch of practice questions and tests. But I was studying/reviewing the wrong way. I took the test in December, even though I did not feel ready. I am not satisfied with my score. I decided to retake the lsat in June and apply next cycle.

If someone has been through this, could you please tell me how you used the same materials and made the best out of it?

Thanks,

Dodo

As I progress through the course, I watch the video explanations for my BR and star them for review. But I'm having trouble finding them all conveniently. Is there a page I'm unaware of that shows all video explanations which I've starred?

Also, apologies if this is not the proper place to post this question : )

Let me edit this post because I don't want him to see it just in case.

Thanks again, everyone :)

Hi all,

Just to give you an idea of where I stand, I applied to almost all of the T14s, as well as a few schools ranked 17-25. My stats aren't that great, but I am a nontraditional student with a very interesting life story, as well as an underrepresented minority. One of my friends told me that, because of this, I would actually have a better shot of getting into a higher ranked school because they don't need to be as worried about preserving their numbers. I didn't believe her until I very recently got my first acceptance.

So far I have been accepted into Columbia (4), waitlisted from Cornell and Georgetown (13 and 14) and rejected from Berk, Emory, and GW (8, 22, and 25). I haven't received anything about scholarships from Columbia, so I don't know how much money (if any) they are going to offer me.

From what I have heard, you can negotiate with a given law school based off of what another law school offers you. In light of this, I am hoping that I get into a lower T14 school (like Duke or Northwestern) and use Columbia as leverage. I would love someone's opinion on how feasible that would be, as well as how the process actually works.

Thanks in advance!!