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Last comment wednesday, feb 08 2017

Weighing options and strategy

Hi guys,

I want to summarize some stuff in points and hope you guys can chime in and give some much appreciated suggestions!

-studied one month 6-8 hours a day for February LSAT. Went from 149-164 average.

-took February test, Spazzed out on LG and RC , my BEST sections, and missed a section each (guessed) and surprisingly did well on LR when I was doing poorly before *i was more confident though in my answer choices that I got to than I have ever been on my PTs so I guess that's a plus

-GPA is 3.26 so I need a low to mid 170 to get into USC.and a mid 160 for UCI. due to my recent mess up I think USC is definitely out and UCI is in critical condition.

-need to set backup plan in motion.

-I have certain weaknesses such as applying the flaws I see in passages of LR to answer choices, I hate inferences in LR and some smaller stuff which is awefully specific. Powerscore book didn't help me because I feel like it focuses so much more on structure than content. Very basic and generalized I was so disappointed. It didn't help me to be a better critical thinker like JYs videos on say LG did.

-I need a more tailor made approach, I need to read and retain better, and I need to up my vocab as well lol. And my timing needs to definitely improve.

-if you guys think it's possible to get to the low to mid 170s in the June or September LSAT, then I will start studying in about two weeks regardless of how February turns out.

I broke 160 on my PTs very early on in my studying...hit a 166, then started to decline back to 161-162.

Thanks and sorry for the long post. But what do u guys recommend in terms of study guides and options given my scenario?

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I know it's recommended to wake up early or be ready by 8:30ish to simulate test-day conditions, but what about the June exam that starts at 1pm?

I'm an early-morning person so the June start time is a serious nightmare (or rather, afternoon-mare) for me, because I tend to hit an afternoon slump, or at least feel not as alert around noon. I've tried waking up later, but having a hard time with things like giving up morning runs when there's less traffic, to generally feeling bad about losing that morning study time, when I'm studying full time and usually get a good chunk done before noon. I feel more productive on an early morning routine, but perhaps it's not worth the risk of a mid-day-slump-during-June-exam?

Any thoughts or experience on getting used to the June LSAT start time?

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Last comment tuesday, feb 07 2017

RC advice needed

Hello,

I would really appreciate some advice here,

So My RC on old PTs (20s to 30s) were on average -3, I knew that old RCs are much easier but at least I thought my reading ability wasn't too bad. But the more recent like 60s PT, I'm now averaging -8 and this really freaks me out.

The pattern that I am seeing is that I would miss only 1 or 2 on entire 3 passages and get completely destroyed on one particular passage that feels most dense. (usually the second one) It seems comparative passage doesn't pose much problem.

Should I just print out most difficult passages and focus drill them?

Its just so frustrating how my performance on a single passage kills the RC score

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Hi guys,

I am really confused about this question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-4-question-17/

After reading the question, I notice what the author is trying to do. It is trying to argue for a sentimental value to counteract the mayor's argument for the monetary value. And the conclusion argues can be translated as due to the great importance of the sentimental value the item listed should be restored.

From this, I immediately draw up the missing assumption which is almost a principle that is missing: if sentimental value in this case is greater than monetary value then the government needs to fix it despite the fiscal limitation.

As such, I moved into the answer choice and didn't find it or anything close to it.

So I was puzzled between A & B. And finally I chose A for the reason that the argument appealed to emotion. But it is wrong.

Why?

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Last comment tuesday, feb 07 2017

What's your study routine?

Looking for ideas :) So far I'm finding (no surprise) that waking up around 7-8AM, having a quick fulfilling breakfast (oatmeal, fruit, tea), doing a quick workout (30 mins or so) does wonders to my whole day not just the studying portion. Taking a shower at night before bed also really helps me because I'm able to sleep better and I'm not wasting too much time in the morning getting ready.

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    I chose C. The stimulus talked about two different groups eat dinner at home sharing similar nutrition value etc. J.Y. says that (D) address paradox by suggesting the first group(work outside of home) eat outside more often. But it still confuses me why C is wrong.

    Any insights would be appreciated. I face a hard time to solve PRE Question which should be easy to tackle for most people.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-2-question-05/

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    Hey guys, so i took the Feb LSAT and i had three logical reasoning sections. I'm just wondering if anyone has figured out which one was experimental because i feel like it could really change my score depending on which one it was haha. If anyone knows and can help me figure it out, i'd appreciate it.

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    I started experiencing some nausea and other issues from inner-ear problems about a week ago. I thought I was well enough to take the LSAT since my symptoms were pretty mild except in the evenings, but after adding in test-day nerves I was pretty sick by the time the test started. I ended up leaving briefly to throw up during one section, so I didn't finish it. I had 2 LG sections - one I felt really good about (finished with time to spare and was confident in my answers) and the other I tanked (answered the first game and felt confident, but guessed on almost all the others). The harder LG was the last section, by which time I was pretty brain dead and flustered from having left during the test to vomit... I just found out from the Feb 17 LSAT discussion board that my bad section was the real one and not the experimental...

    Should I cancel my score or wait and see if I scrape a good enough score to apply to back up schools while I wait for the June LSAT? Which would be worse - a canceled score or bad score with an addendum that I was ill on test day?

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    Hi all,

    How many times would you retake a logic game when you are under time the 2nd time around? For example, I just did a medium-difficult logic game. I royally messed up on the board and took 20 minutes on what was supposed to be a 10 minute game. Then I repeated the game right afterward, this time doing the game board correctly, and got well under the target time (6 minutes).

    At this point, I will definitely be repeating the game tomorrow and a week from now, and maybe further along the line than that. I've read @Pacifico's awesome post and seen the video and guide for the Fool Proof method on 7sage. When you''re hitting under a target time, what "standard" do you use when you know to move onto another game? For example, in the scenario above, would you redo that game or not, and why?

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    This could be anything from the subtle way an assumption is introduced in the stimulus to a misleading QS. I'll give two:

    The Bait 'n Switch assumption. Most of the stimulus/premises will be talking about A, but the conclusion is B or AB (overreaching conclusion). https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-24/

    The Extra Baggage Dual Speaker. Many times when there is a dual speaker, you are asked to consider both speakers to solve the question like "How do they agree or disagree" or "what is Bob's best response". But sometimes, not only is it unecessary to read the second speaker, but it may actually obfuscate your task. In this case they may give you two speakers but ask you to strengthen/weaken the first speaker's argument... no need for the second speaker at all! https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-06/

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    Last comment monday, feb 06 2017

    What next after FEB LSAT

    Hey guys just need some advice. So, my first take was yesterday and I have been studying for about a year. I can't really gauge what type a score I will get. If need be, my second take would be June. I just don't know when to start studying for the June LSAT. I am feeling quite drained and don't feel like jumping right into studying but I don't want to get sluggish with the methods either :/. Also, if I don't start studying again would it be wise to focus on weaknesses rather than doing the core curriculum again? Some pointers on that would be great as well.

    Thanks again :)

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    Last comment monday, feb 06 2017

    The dreaded cancel question

    So I know this question has been asked a hundred times, but I could really use some guidance. So February was my first time taking the LSAT and it was my dream test. My test booklet number was my address, I have a bee tattoo, and I feel so confident that I excelled on everything before the break and the last LR. Then I got the real LG section. I didn't write down one of the rules for the second game(RIP Teapots) and was so frazzled I answered maybe three questions in the last two games. I've never not finished a section before, even from my first cold PT. I really want to go to a T14, and I was scoring in the range for that, but I know this will at the best possible scenario be in the low 160s. Should I cancel my score knowing that it isn't a representation of how I was doing, or save it and just pray that there aren't any hiccups with the June test. I'm living overseas to teach next year, and I really wanted to be done with the LSAT before I left, but I could take it again in June if I cancel it, and still feel comfortable taking it again later in Japan? I'm sorry if this isn't cohesive, I'm so frazzled still. What would you do, oh mighty sagers if you were in my boat?

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    Last comment sunday, feb 05 2017

    Just want to cry..

    Seriously. This was my 3rd take and I really messed up on LG. I was rushing through it and was making things overly difficult. I usually will get -1 or -2 on LG and I honestly feel like I got -10 or something. I'm thinking of cancelling but I just am secretly hoping I somehow pull through and get 160+. I've already submitted my application but haven't heard anything back yet. My GPA sucks so I was really banking on the LSAT. I feel like no matter how much I practice, I get there on test day and do something stupid.

    Also, I took my first LSAT in February 2016, so if I did need a retake, does this mean Feb 2018 is my closest date?

    tear

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    Which one do you guys look at, US News? There's that other site, "law-schools.startclass.com".

    What are you looking at to decide which is best, bar passage rate? or employment rate?

    Also, I've been offered some scholarships to local and lower ranked schools. They are not in the region that i want to live. How hard is it to move right after going to law school? Or is it a better choice to forfeit the scholarships and go to the higher-ranked schools in the State that I want to move? PS. my tuition is paid by the VA so the scholarship money would be extra money.

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    Is there a cap? Hope I can bring in at least 6, so I can have a sharp point for each logic game and a sharp point for the other sections. I really want to bring 10, just in case my experimental is LG.

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    Last comment sunday, feb 05 2017

    Tear in the answer sheet?

    So I took the test today and my clumsy self accidentally ripped the side of the answer sheet. It wasn't a big tear and it was not directly on the section answers bubbles. I asked the proctors and they said it was fine. I am worried because I am under the impression that LSAC scores the test via one of those score machines that requires you to insert the answer sheet in and since mine was partially damaged, it won't be scored :( Am I being paranoid right now?

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    Last comment sunday, feb 05 2017

    PT 75+

    Does anyone know how much PT 76-79 differ compared to the rest of the PTs that are available?

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