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For those of you on the PT 55 BR call -- sorry it took me so long to get this up, but below are my notes on Principle questions and subtypes. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions! Hope this helps.

Principle/SA Questions and Subtypes

Sufficient Assumption, Pseudo Sufficient Assumption, Conform to the Principle, and Principle Example are all closely interlinked question types. (And are also closely related to Strengthen questions). However, there are specific tasks demanded by each. The below descriptions are a loose guide to how each of these questions function on the LSAT.

1. Sufficient Assumption

-Supply additional premises/assumptions to make the argument valid. Will directly link up with some premise/assumption in the argument to make the argument “airtight.” The correct answer must always enable us to reach the conclusion given in the stimulus.

Question stem: “Which one of the following, if true, enables the economist’s conclusion to be properly drawn?”

Specific ——> Specific

Stimulus (specific situation):

Jamal will not go to the store if Greg buys apples today and the canned soup isn’t expired. The canned soup isn’t expired. Therefore, Jamal will not go to the store today.

Answer choice (specific premise):

At some point today, Greg will buy apples.

2. Pseudo Sufficient Assumption

-Typically given a concrete situation and are asked to supply a “blanket” principle that would allow the conclusion to be properly drawn (although maybe not as airtight as with SA)

-Sometimes, albeit rarely, PSA questions are more like a strengthen/PSA hybrid — we are asked to supply a blanket principle that “most strongly supports”

-As with sufficient assumption questions, the answer choice may be more expansive than it needs to be in order to properly arrive at the conclusion.

Question stem: “Which one of the following principles, if valid, most helps to justify the reasoning above?”

Specific ——-> Abstract

Stimulus (specific situation):

Sally knew that John wanted the last slice of cake, but she ate it anyway. Therefore, Sally’s action was morally wrong.

Answer choice (abstract principle):

A human action is morally wrong if that action denies any person of a desire that could have been fulfilled had the action not been taken.

3. Conform to the Principle

-Given specific situation in the stimulus and must choose a correct answer that states an abstract principle the information in the stimulus matches.

-Very similar to Parallel Reasoning question — you are given a situation and must “match” that situation to the abstract thinking that underlies its reasoning

-More so than with PSA questions, it’s very important for every element of the correct answer to be descriptively accurate. Why? With PSA/SA questions, you are trying to get to the conclusion by any means necessary — this means that they could, in theory, give you a correct answer choice that is way more generous than necessary to arrive at the conclusion. But in Conform to the Principle questions, you are trying to sketch out the speaker’s reasoning in exact, even if abstract, terms. Extraneous information that doesn’t match the speaker’s specific reasoning in the stimulus should be approached with caution.

-PT52, Section 3, Question 11 provides an apt example of this. Answer choice D) provides enough information to arrive at the conclusion set forth in the argument. However, it is incorrect because it does not do so by using the premises the speaker uses in her reasoning. Therefore, answer choice B) is a far more appealing answer choice.

Question stem: “The reasoning above most closely conforms to which one of the following principles?”

Specific ——> Abstract

Stimulus (specific situation):

Controlled burning of forests in the area may be beneficial for rejuvenating the soil and lessening the impact of natural fires. However, we still don’t know the consequences controlled burning might have on the wildlife in the area. Since we have an obligation to protect the wildlife in the area at all costs, we should not implement controlled burning at this time.

Answer (abstract principle):

If it is not known how a proposed action might effect something one is obligated to protect, then that course of action is impermissible.

4. Apply the Principle

-Given an abstract principle and must choose a correct answer choice that is a specific example of that principle

-This is basically an application of the principle — you must follow the conditional logic and/or reasoning of the principle exactly (again, similar to parallel reasoning questions in this regard).

Abstract —-> Specific

Question stem: “Of the following, which one most closely conforms to the principle that the passage illustrates?”

Stimulus (abstract principle):

A person is morally right only if their intentions are good and they do no harm.

Answer choice (specific situation):

Clarissa told Murat that his paper on the War of 1812 was factually inaccurate because she intended to help him improve the paper and receive a better grade. Despite these good intentions, Murat was hurt by her critique. Therefore, it cannot be said that Clarissa’s actions were morally right.

5. Violate the Principle

-Given an abstract principle and must choose a correct answer choice that is a specific violation of that principle (most often, violates the conditional logic given in the principle)

-Very important to know how to violate/contradict a conditional statement

Abstract ——-> Specific

Question stem: “Which one of the following actions most clearly violates the principle stated?”

Stimulus (abstract principle):

One should never lie to another person unless one thinks that doing so would be in the interest of that other person.

Answer choice (specific violation):

Carlos lied when he told Alex that he couldn’t come to his birthday party because he had to work that evening. However, Carlos had no opinion on whether this lie would advantageous to Alex; he simply lied because he needed an excuse.

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Hello 7Sagers,

I am in the process of completing the core curriculum and i had a question about the LR portion of the circular. I am memorizing universal indicators, valid arguments , invalid arguments, and some and more relationships. My question is how does this apply? I know that i need to know this so that i can understand all of the harder questions. However, should i be applying this knowledge to all questions on the LR portion of the LSAT? Am i supposed to read each stimulus looking for these things ? I am just trying to be sure how i should be putting this together.

For example :

1. step one - memorize everything JY is talking about ( indicators, sufficient & necessary structures)

2. Step two??

I feel this is a tedious way of reading a stimulus , but is this how you would do a close reading?? Just wondering how i should apply these things and how they come together.

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It's that time of year again :)

Does anyone have a used180Watch that they'd be willing to sell at a discounted rate? I am also definitely interested in any other watch that has start/stop and reset buttons. If anyone has used an analog timer and knows they're acceptable in the exam, I would even be happy with that!

Please PM me if you've got one you could sell!

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Resume Question

Because you all are the best, I have more questions:

I'm trying to save space on my resume (like we all are), and want to know if this education section is redundant:

College XY

• BA in English; Minors in Creative Writing and History.

• Dean’s List (Fall 2010, Spring 2011, Fall 2011, Spring 2012, Fall 2012).

• Graduated with Honors

• Honors Thesis: Psychological Traps and the Legacy of the Old South in Faulkner’s Fiction.

Can I just cut "Graduated with Honors" and simply list the title of my thesis? Would that convey I graduated with Honors?

Also, do I need to list the semesters for Dean's List? It seems like I should. Thanks 7sagers!

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    N.A Defender Type Answer Choices and Strengthen Eliminating the Weakness Answer Choices

    I somehow feel that those two answer choices are very similar. Does anyone here have opinion on how those two answer choices differ? Those question types are both assumption type questions, and I assume that is why I feel those two are from similar (not the same) grounds.

    For example, this is an made up argument but...

    Assumption: This september, there are more people coming to watch movie in theatre A.

    Conclusion: Therefore, theatre A would collect more profit this month.

    Strengthen (Eliminating the Weakness AC) and NA AC could be both something like the theatre did not offer large price discount this September.

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    Why Penn Essay

    So Penn doesn't have a specific "Why do you want to go to Penn" essay prompt, but one of the optional essays is:

    These are the core strengths that make Penn Law the best place to receive a rigorous and engaging legal education: genuine integration with associated disciplines; transformative, forward-looking faculty scholarship; highly-regarded experiential learning through urban clinics and our pro bono pledge; innovative, hands-on global engagement; and a manifest commitment to professional development and collegiality. These qualities define Penn Law. What defines you? How do your goals and values match Penn Law’s core strengths?

    Is this just a long-winded way of asking Why Penn? Or should I really spend a good deal of the essay talking about some of my own traits?

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    Hi friends!

    So i've been working way through the curriculum and LR is my worst by far. I am actually alright in the other two areas. I just want to know, what can I do to gain fluency in LR? Just drill? I try going over the core curriculum, but I find myself not really gaining anything from it.. It's not a specific question type either, like some MBT I'll be okay on and some I'll just end up missing five in a row. I'm not sure what to do to make LR a strength for me? Do y'all know of any resources or books that I could get and work through? I haven't used anything but 7sage.

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    PT 57 Logic Game Section

    Fellow 7Sagers,

    I have not struggled with an LG section in such a long time. I just retook the LG section from PT 57 (Which I did first time around so long ago), and I struggled with the time allotted. I am used to finishing LG in 25-30 minutes at most. I am wondering whether it was the product of me just feeling tired today, or is the section more difficult than average? I found the section a bit more difficult than the usual.

    All input is much appreciated.

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    Hey guys/or anyone from the admin staff,

    Not seeing the 'not saving results' button by accident, I scored two full tests on analytics when I only did a section from each test. So everytime I login, I see scores of 121, and 122, which is really annoying haha. Does anyone know how to erase this? I can't figure it out myself! Thank you :)

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    Who is going to the LSAC forum in LA this Saturday? Here are the details:

    Saturday, November 5, 2016

    9:00 am–4:00 pm: Workshops

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    The Westin Bonaventure Hotel

    404 South Figueroa Street

    Los Angeles, CA 90071

    To register, http://www.lsac.org/2016forums/city/los-angeles.html

    It’d be a great opportunity for 7Sagers to meet in person. Maybe we can all meet for lunch at one of these places nearby?

    Cilantro Lime

    934 Los Angeles St, Suite 2

    (0.9 miles)

    Angry Chef Grill

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    I’ll be the bald 40 year old guy in a sweater vest.

    Hope to see you there!

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    wrong answer choice in RC

    Hi,

    Hi, just wondering...anyone noticed the characteristics of wrong answer choices in RC?

    I mean...do they come from the same paragraph or close place? I know for some answer choices they are factually incorrect but for some others they twist the details ect, and part of the choice is correct, and this confuses me a lot. Do correct answer choices and wrong answer choices come from the same paragraph?

    Especially for those detail questions...

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    Hey guys, I was just wondering if I can get some feedback on a couple issues.

    So I'm taking the December LSAT and i was wondering if waking up at 6 am everyday during the final week leading up to the test will be a good enough sleep schedule to get myself ready for Saturday and be able to fall asleep on Friday. (Im also planning on waking up at 6 am a few more times during this month during PT's in order to assimilate game day.) That's my first question.

    My second question is whether or not to take any type of sleeping pill the night before the test because i really don't want to struggle going to sleep or something. (I would obviously test the sleeping pills beforehand during a PT to see how it affects me but i just want general feedback on that idea.)

    Finally, what are some good breakfasts to have ON the day of the test?

    Thanks guys.

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    Tough question save for later?

    Hi team,

    Just a curious note. Please let me know your thoughts.

    I had just finished the weakening question sets. I did them by writing it out by pen: each context, premise, and conclusion while also, trying my best, writing out an anticipated assumption, which sometimes do become the right answer choice.

    Yes, I am way out of the 1:30s time frame, but by doing this, I have been forcing myself in getting everything into a "habit" when reading.

    But recently L4 and 5 questions have been a pain. I can miss maybe 3 out of 5 questions and sometimes having a difficult time in getting down an answer.

    Therefore, I want to save those questions for later as I really don't like to waste problems. Thoughts on this?

    And also, just curious, how do you approach the difficult problems? Do you save it for later and make a concentrated study just on those problems or do you just go head and do them anyway. Example: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/weaken-questions-problem-set-14/

    Much love,

    Panda

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    Admins please delete if I am crossing any lines.

    These are MY notes from the free webinars put on David Busis and figured that I should host them somewhere for everyone to view/use. This is just scratching the surface for the breadth of information that David provides in the admissions courses, https://classic.7sage.com/enroll-admissions/.

    Admission Webinar Notes

    Look at the applications for schools you want to get into now, a lot of them share similar topics.

    Timeline

    -Should start in June, but July is sufficient

    -Focus on research and building resume first

    -Develop personal statement draft by end of July

    -Line up recommenders, give time to reconnect (have conversation, grab coffee, email correspondence, etc)

    -Come august you should begin edit the essays, let them evolve

    -By September you should be proof reading the essays for easy errors (review it 4, 5, or even 6 times)

    -If applications are ready in October, then apply, if not then wait until you have all ducks in a row and papers as best as you possibly can

    -If you apply by thanksgiving you're still great and early, February to march is late and should consider waiting until next year.

    Before you start you want to sanitize your Social Media, adjust privacy settings, delete embarrassing/not professional photos

    Open prompts truly can be about anything

    Don't necessarily write about why you're going to law school, if your resume shows real commitment to social justice, have wanted to be forever, then write about it

    if your T-14 schools don't really care, write about something not focused on this

    Personal Statement (600 - 850 words, if overwrite that ok, it easier to overwrite and cut then underwrite and add)

    (There is more on PS below in this post)

    -Make them remember who you are, do not brag about what you've done as that what your resume is for

    -Diversity Statement, only write if you can write a really really good one, should generally be shorter than personal statement, if it wants to be longer than personal statement than maybe use that as personal statement

    -Wont make up for low LSAT scores or low GPA, but could help put your application into the "Yes" pile

    -Stories stick in peoples heads more than facts, remember you as the guy who "Locked keys in car, broke into own car, got arrested for breaking into own car"

    -If you have a really good reason to be a lawyer, then write about it, otherwise DONT

    Diversity Statement (little bit shorter than personal statement)

    -A essay about how you would make the campus more diverse, not tied to ethnicity, religion, etc

    -Only write diversity statement if you can talk about how your background shaped you

    -A good one wont hurt you, but a bad one WILL

    Resume (not the same as a job)

    -List interests and activities (these two come up in interviews)

    -Shows that you're an human being, humanize yourself

    -Only include highlights, show off skills or highlights talents

    -Keep to one page, admissions will scan for about 30 seconds, so make it scannable with plenty of white space and easy to read formatting

    -Only include highlights

    -Have quantifiable accomplishments

    -Keep it to one page

    Letters of Recommendation (need two or three)

    -Around 3 LoR is best, no more than 5

    -Academics weigh much more heavily

    -Those who know you well are much more helpful

    -Those who can tell stories about you, help illustrate your personality

    -Can give them information about yourself, might include keys for what you want to be highlighted or how you've changed recently

    -Reconnect and help them remember who you are or fill them in on what you've done since last seeing them

    Character and Fitness Addendum

    -Assume admissions can find out anything available via google, social media, etc.

    -Disciplinary action at school or ever arrested, assume that everything you don't disclose will go back to bite you

    -Figure out what you should call the incident, Class B or Class C misdemeanor

    -Show them what you learned and explain to them why its not going to happen again

    Weakness Addendum (Extenuating circumstances)

    What happened, How are you trying to fix it, What isn't it going to happen again

    -Is this a legitimate problem?

    -Did i try to fix this problem?

    -Is this going to occur in the future?

    -Don't write about a weakness you don't want them to know

    -Substantiate the lower GPA in mechanical engineering department with a pass rate for EIT /

    -Spin this with being military minded, straight line thinking person for the past X years of life

    Why school X essay (optional but NOT OPTIONAL, 1 page or less)

    -Although these are stated to be optional they are not!

    -This is an INTEREST TEST, if you don't write one or write about a generic reason this shows a LACK OF INTEREST

    -Must write it if you have the option, this is a interest test

    -Have to do research on the school, talk with students, admissions, graduates

    -Cite unique reasons, classes, clinics, professors you want to work with

    -Don't make it a generalized statement ("Great professors")

    -Should be one page or less

    Other Essays (Idiosynchratic)

    -Compliment or emphasize other parts of your admission packet

    -Use this to expound on your "marketing of yourself"

    -Georgetown has 5 additional essays

    -Use this emphasize one part of your essay, or if you didn't write about why you want to be Lawyer then write that

    Brainstorming

    -What 5 seconds changed your life, boil it down to a key moment

    -When did you change your mind about something

    -What is the hardest thing you've ever done

    Personal Statement Webinar Notes

    A good personal statement topic finds a good center between What Matters to You and What is an Interesting Story (where there exists the most overlap is what you should write about)

    -In additional, a good personal statement where there exists an intersection between what Matters to you and What is an Interesting Story AND doest make you look like a douche

    -A really good writer can make almost anything an interesting story (I am not a good writer thought....)

    -Tells your life story, or a thin slice of your life's story

    Do you have an incredible story (something that could be made into a Lifetime movie?)

    -If yes, then you want to use that

    -If no then DON'T use that --> Brain storm, general rule is that 1 in 10 ideas are good ones

    Personal statement should have an internal before and after, should be a lesson that reflects a small journey you made

    Questions to ask yourself to find a good topic

    1) When did you change your mind, your beliefs, or your goals? Anywhere in your life where you took a new direction, a big inflection point. Maybe it is smaller than significant change, such as a psychodrama.

    2) What is the most challenging thing that you've done? What is your mountain? This might be a really good topic because it presents movement 1- the challenge and movement 2- the solution

    3) What contributed to your identity? What shaped you or what made you, you? Might be about how you grew up, such as had to raise your siblings. Maybe you were a parking lot attendant and had a bunch of time to focus on something, like reading.

    4) What is most surprising about you? It forces you to dig deep about something that will be memorable. Maybe its a hobby, a skill that most people don't have, or an interest most people don't have.

    5) (Most powerful statement) What 5 seconds changed your life? Doesn't necessarily have to be actually 5 seconds. Might be easiest to write because you have an identifiable changing point and have a before and after.

    6) What made you want to be a lawyer? This is a good topic for anyone who has a good and sincere interest in becoming a lawyer, not a boring reason such as a stable or respected profession. Don't pretend you want to be a lawyer for some abstract reason because your resume will flush out that your interest isn't actually sincere. If you have some use for your UG degree.

    Topics can meld together, such as a 5 second change that drove you to want to be a lawyer.

    Dudes favorite essays:

    1) Tourettes essay - about a time someone who has tourettes his whole life, seemed ordinary from his POV, but from someone else POV its pretty interesting

    2) Defending a Neo-Nazi - a African American who ends up defending a Nazi in court

    3) Coffee Shop - A 5 second change in this girls life, who normally didn't stand up for herself, but was a pivotal movement for her

    4) Paper Cranes - Korean student who moved to Japan who had an inherent distrust for Japanese culture, while making paper cranes in a park

    5) Max's Death - An VETs story about an Iraqi Soldier who died while trying to get his Green Card, focus's more on his relationship between the two NOT ABOUT MAX

    6) Tourne - Someone who could make a type of food, tourne, and his struggle

    7) Women like you - About a woman who was harassed in a police station in South Korea, turns that moment about being harassed into what are her core beliefs

    The best personal statements touch on the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN YOUR LIFE

    Things to ask:

    1) Do you play an active part in this story? If you're not active then the topic probably doesn't work

    2) Can you illustrate the point with specific anecdotes and details? These are the "bricks" that build your essay. If you can't remember specific details about the event, it might be a shitty essay because it will be vague

    3) Is the topic important to you? Can you write about it sincerely?

    4) Is it "the time that"?

    Things to NOT DO:

    1) Don't say what you're not sincere about because you think its what they want to hear, the admissions will flush out your bullship

    Bad Essays Example Topics:

    1) The time I witnessed injustice essay, unless you were wronged or people you were connected to were wronged, then this is not going to seem sincere. Did you try to, or actually, do something about it? Did you actively act on that cause?

    2) The Blah Business School Essay

    -Did this experience working at the internship, or working at your job, matter to you? Did it change you? If not then it will feel like blah.

    -Is your accomplishment something special, or was it just doing your job? Sometimes just doing your job can have a sense of nobility.

    3) The essay about the obstacle that's not really an obstacle.

    -Disappointments are not real obstacles

    -Is this an actual obstacle or is this a disappointment?

    4) The Two-Headed Essay

    -Writer doesn't really know what he wants to write about and morphs into something weird

    -Do I have more than one topic?

    -Is every paragraph part of the same story?

    5) The Headless Essay

    -People writing about their resume or writing about

    -Can you explain what this essay is about in one sentence or less? If you can't then you probably don't have a good essay

    Notes from Admissions webinar on Personal Statement:

    Personal Statement (600 - 850 words, easier to overwrite and cut)

    -Make them remember who you are, do not brag about what you've done as that what your resume is for

    -Diversity Statement only if you can write a really really good one, should generally be shorter than personal statement, if it wants to be longer than personal statement than maybe use that as personal statement

    -Wont make up for low LSAT scores or low GPA, but could help put your application into the "Yes" pile

    -Stories stick in peoples heads more than facts, remember you as the guy who "Locked keys in car, broke into own car, got arrested for breaking into own car"

    -If you have a really good reason to be a lawyer, then write about it, otherwise DONT

    Useful resource for examples of PS that worked

    University of Chichago School of Law Admissions Letters: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/alumni/magazine/spring11/intheirownwords

    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/node/1451

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    Crowdsourcing my Resume Critique

    Hello all–I'd love some feedback on the content of my resume for applications! I'm very familiar with resumes for jobs, but there is definitely a different style for LS applications. As a guide I used the 7sage admissions course content and several resume samples available online from HLS and Anna Ivey. Identifying information (name, location, schools) have been changed.

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