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So I am doing terrible with RC, terrible, and I started trying the memory method. I don't usually finish all of the passage in time or all of the questions. Should I review the passages after---since the goal of the method seems to be improving speed and short term memory -and I have a long way to go I'm wondering if I might be better off to not review after and just keep trying to work on speed and memory...what do you think/recommend?

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Hi,

So I'm waiting for my LSAT results like everyone else, and I'm wondering what to be doing about my apps in the meantime. Depending on my December score, I will either apply this cycle or wait this one out.

Is it okay if my professors submit their LORs this month, and I just apply with these same LORs next year? Or would I have to ask them again next year to submit another one if I don't apply this cycle?

I don't know if my question makes sense but basically I don't know how to respond to my Professors' questions because I don't know for sure what I'm doing yet.

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I was just wondering how I can automatically pick up on when a flaw question is really a necessary assumption question in disguise. Do arguments with the question stem "this argument is flawed because it takes for granted that" often contain a NA element? Help!

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Hi all, to make this brief...I am considering canceling my score for a few reasons.

1. The schools I want to go to, and the scholarship money are the primary concern for choosing to go to law school. It's a must that I maximize both.

2. I was sick with mono, then the flu, and then a string of migraines. So I lost 2-3 weeks of studying right before the exam.

3. The night of the exam, I couldn't sleep and got a total of 5 hours of quality sleep. My brain felt foggy and not fresh at all.

4. Even if I cancel and write Feb, I will still make the deadline for 3 of the schools I would want to attend. If I do better than expected, I could always apply in the next wave with better prospects for both schools and scholarships.

and finally.. I was PTing around 170s, but after Preptest in the 70s my score dropped down to 163.

What do you guys think?

(Also posted this on reddit)

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does anyone have any test anxiety tips? I just took the last for the second time and completely froze as soon as the first section (rc) started. I'm usually good at that section but was so nervous that I completely froze on the first reading and couldn't process anything. This happened to me last time with logic games! Any tips from anyone who has overcome similar experiences with last anxiety??

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Hello--

I just took the Dec 2015 LSAT, and realized in the middle of the test I was doing poorly. I did not go in to the test as prepared as I could be, and after studying since June (and having a large family-related set-back) I had complete apathy about the test walking in to it.

I have a strong GPA, and believe I'm capable of a strong LSAT score with better preparation and mindset.

I have never scored higher on an LSAT pt than I thought I would, and I would imagine this situation is no different- I can't imagine my score being above a 160, and I feel like I am capable of much higher.

Most posts stress that a cancel has no benefit, but my question is, what's the harm? I feel like a cancellation looks much better than a low LSAT on your record-- even if schools claim not to notice.

Any input is greatly appreciated, I have three days to decide.

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So I took the December LSAT. I have taken the LSAT twice before, in undergrad when I thought I was ready to go to law school. It ended up not working out for me at the time (family related issues). I was expecting a pretty good score, I've been taking PT's in the mid to high 160's. But on this test I missed 2 games and would be hopeful for a 160. I don't think I would be putting my best foot forward with whatever score I got. But I do want to apply this year, I have been out of college for 3 years and feel like it is time to go back. Any advice on whether I should cross my fingers with this score or cancel and take the Feb. test?

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Hi,

I've been taking a few timed tests lately (after I received some good advice to do so) and have been consistently scoring 164 on all the exams. I took a timed practice test last night and scored a 165 after a few days of extensive blind review. I'm currently trying to take the upcoming LSAT exam (February '16) and my goal is to score at least a 170 (but would ideally like to score 173+). I would rather not push it off until June. I quit my job, moved home to study, and after a lot of distractions there I recently moved back to the city this week and have been putting in a lot of uninterrupted work towards the LSAT. I need to get a job again soon but also know that I have to make the difficult decision of prioritizing the LSAT.

From those who have some insights to share -- do you think that it is possible to hit a 170+ by the February exam date? If I'm scoring a consistent 164/165 on timed exams now? I have until the end of December to register for the February LSAT, so any information + advice you could give would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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I have been looking everywhere and can't seem to find any place where I can buy the 180 watch. Their website doesn't mention when they will start selling again. Is there anyone who wants to sell theirs?

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Just took the December LSAT and totally blew it...test anxiety got the better of me and my mind went seriously foggy for the second half of the test. I definitely don't think I'm going to score in the range I'd hoped for so delaying my application to the next cycle seems to be the only choice. Should I go in for the February test or push it back even further to the June one? Logic Games is where I am seriously lacking and really need to put in work...But I concerned if pushing the test back too far can in some way have a negative effect on my performance...

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    So I'm doing something close to Pacificos strategy on LG. On really easy games, I don't even watch JYs explanation and I can do those twice in 15 minutes or less. On medium difficult games, I usually just watch JYs setup and don't bother on going thru every answer choice in videos bc I don't feel I need too. Once I get the setup, I'm fine on answer types. (Unless you'd recommend otherwise) Usually takes me about 20-30 minutes and for harder games, I'll watch the whole video and they can take me 30+ minutes. All in all, it takes me like 6 hours to do 3 sections effectively of LG.. How is that time wise, for effiency?

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    Completely missed this one; I really don't see how B is a necessary assumption. Can someone breakdown by B is necessary?

    People on the Internet sometimes can't tell the difference between good medical information and bad medical information. The bad stuff is written more clearly than the good stuff, which makes the bad stuff more appealing to people with zero medical experience. Thus, people who rely on the Internet when diagnosing themselves are probably going to do more harm than good.

    What I am looking for: Our conclusion is about diagnosing and harming yourself, which are new ideas, so I expect the correct answer choice to bridge that gap. Specifically, the first sentence talks about how people are going online for "medical information," but the conclusion talks about "diagnosing themselves," which is a part of that more broad idea. Are people going to rely on the quackery when they diagnose themselves? What if they use something else instead? Additionally, the idea of people having zero medical background is talked about as a premise, but the conclusion is about people in general. Do people in general not have any medical background?

    Answer A: This is what I picked since it was left after POE. I didn't love it, but I was pretty confident in eliminating the other answers. This answer is wrong since "typically" is too strong. We only need people to diagnose themselves sometimes.

    Answer B: Not exclusively rely on scientifically valid info--->Likely do more harm than good. This is for sure a sufficient assumption, but I don't see how this is a necessary assumption. If you negate it: Not exclusively rely on scientifically valid info SOME Not likely do more harm than good, then so what? Our conclusion is about reliance on the web in general, and our premise only states that quackery is appealing to people with ZERO medical experience. How does this answer choice bridge the gap between that people vs. people with zero medical experience? Can't there be people that use primarily scientifically valid info pared with some quackery and not likely do more harm than good? I don't see how that is inconsistent with the argument. I was pretty confident getting rid of this answer choice for that reason. Specifically, I think the idea of "exclusively" is way too strong; can't Not exclusively (sometimes, primarily/but not all, etc.) still work?

    Answer C: No harm? Too strong.

    Answer D: We don't know what people assume or how they weight the importance of clear writing.

    Answer E: Only if? Way too strong.

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    Admin's note: Thread hijacking! I'm turning this thread into the Official Dec. LSAT Discussion. Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

    We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the December '15 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "Question 4 was odd" or "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC.

    Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

    One exception is you can say which section was the experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

    TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

    Have fun discussing!

    So far we've found out:

    Real RC - 27 Questions:

    – Gender Studies/Women in Rome

    – Black National Theater

    – Corporate Crime/Punishment

    – Lamarack Theory

    Real LG - 23 Questions:

    – Concerts

    – Pottery

    – Office

    – Committees

    Real LR - 25 & 26 Questions:

    – Waste Management

    – Dolphins/Elephants

    – Amber

    – Ships in the Ocean

    – Lemurs

    – Psychic Girl

    – Honeybees

    – Vaccine X

    – Gold Mines

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    @dj768083724's original post:

    Going to go with LR with question about elephant seals and dolphins experimental.

    (Read Dillon's post and think this should be ok to say, sorry in advance if it is not)

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    Just sat to write the Dec. I did a look back at october LR's section to compare. In October, only 1 argument part-role question and 0 main point questions. December several of both. Anyone else notice that?

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    Is it possible for the LSAT to have trends where exams are specifically designed to have harder LR or RC and then easier LG or vice versa at particular times? If that's something that is often done is there a way we can get a sense of what the trend will be like or when they might choose to calibrate it a certain way? I feel like there are definite trends among the different months the exams are released on. I'd imagine they'd have to take into account whether students might be improving on LG for example so they balance it out by giving harder LG while minimizing the other sections.

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