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Let me start off by saying that, in every other area, whether in LR or LG, JY's suggested techniques have worked brilliantly for me. As long as the hours and repetitions are put in consistently and core curriculum hasn't been skimmed through, I believe these methods are widely applicable for most, if not all, people. JY is the man. In RC, however, it has often felt like I've been trying to force his 'low res' technique to sink in and, after countless hours of trying to hammer this technique home, my brain's natural method of information intake just doesn't seem to agree with it. This post is more relevant for people who take in information in a similar manner to me (eg: You read an article once through without distraction or stopping and can summarize it confidently)

When using the low res summary technique, each time I underline, circle, scribble a low res paragraph summary, etc, it tends to A) distract me (almost a 'context shift' for anyone familiar with Cal Newport) from actually absorbing/comprehending information, B) slow me down both in terms of sheer getting through the passage and comprehending first time through (resulting in inefficient sentence re-reads) or C) both.

Last week, out of tired frustration more than anything, I just randomly started reading passages all the way through without stopping to mark anything- just recreational reading like I would any book or magazine for fun. Definitely TMI, but I treated it as if it was just light reading a magazine on the toilet (which tbh was where I discovered this method), and it's strangely worked. I've gone -0 on nearly all RC passages since. I have a better feeling for passage structure and paragraph purposes, however, the main issue this has solved is timing. Because of my mind having a tendency to lose track of context or details every time I stop to mark the passage, that resulted in many sentences being re-read, resulting in 5-6 minutes being spent on passage analysis and STILL sometimes missing ideas, which then meant spending more time on certain questions than necessary. Simply reading it straight through like I would an FT article solves all of that for me. I'm acutely aware of how ridiculous this all sounds, but it's working so far regardless of 'cookie-cutter' passage type, subject matter (which used to catch me out, especially Art) or passage difficulty level. I thought tougher RecSE- type questions that require recall of specific or hidden details would expose me, but I actually feel better with these types as well.

Has anyone else done this or something similar? Is this going to come back and bite me in the ass?

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So I'm sure there are tons of previous discussion forum posts about this exact question, but I wanted to make my own so I could insert where I am personally.

I have a 160 score on file from February... I took the LSAT basically on a whim and studied for about a week or two (and that study was largely unproductive since I was taking non-timed individual sections without blind review, etc.).

I've now been using 7Sage for about a month and am progressing very well. It seems like I can make a significant improvement on my February score and open up more opportunities for myself. I think I'm trending towards the 165-170 mark and that feels like a completely different score than the 160 I have currently. However, I've always heard that applying as early as possible is a good thing for law school.

Could someone give me advice on whether or not waiting until early November is "too late" for the next cycle as far as scholarships, etc. are concerned? I understand that every cycle is different, but what's the norm?

I could probably stretch and make it through the Core Curriculum in time for the August LSAT date - but I'd definitely be rushing and wouldn't have the opportunity to really reflect on what I've learned, or to solidify those skills with multiple practice tests.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks everyone.

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When you are forced to brute force a MBT question, what is the best way to go about it? I try and eliminate as much as I can right away. With the ACs that are left, I just negate them and see if I arrive at a contradiction. The problem is that there is more than one way to negate an AC. For example, if the AC says A must be in group 1, then you could put A in group 2,3 etc.. What do you do in this situation?

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Hi! I am essentially finished with CC and wondering what PT's I should start with and then end with prior to the August exam? I know the more recent PT are more similar to the current tests but a bit different from the CC. If you have prior experience or any advice I would love to hear it! I would aim on taking two or three PT's a week.

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My june test session is on hold for a review. Is there such a hold on file due to score jump between 2 tests. I called LSAC today and they said they have never seen such hold.

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I know we’ll be getting an email on July 29th telling us that we can sign up for a time slot, but what time does that email typically go out? Also, would I be able to sign up for a time slot on an iPhone? Thanks!

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Has anyone heard any information about how the June LSAT might be curved? Also is there a different curve for every variation of the test, or one general curve for the June LSAT as one thing? Just getting nervous for Wednesday 9 AM now... (:

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Hi everyone,

I am planning to take the August LSAT and I am having a hard time improving my LR and RC sections. On my past two practice tests I've scored a 161 with BR scores of 170 and 172 (My target score is 166+).

For LR, I've realized that my biggest barrier is time and not skipping questions I find difficult right away. So, I plan on taking timed LR sections this week to address that.

But, for RC, I really do not know how to improve my score. What strategies have worked for you? Do you reccomend getting a tutor at this stage? Should I just do tons of RC passages?

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Hi everyone! I am just looking to get some advice...

I live in Austin (TX resident) and am applying to law school in the Fall 2021 cycle. I really want to go to UT Austin but I am a splitter and curious if anyone has insight. I know UT Austin's L50 for LSAT has risen to 168 and I am pretty far off). Here's my background:

BS in Biomedical Engineering - GPA: 3.843 (2019)

MS in Biomedical Engineering - GPA: 3.833 (2020)

LSAT: 160 (I've taken twice and I think my second time score was worse, so going with my first score)

I've worked in medical device industry for 3+ years, in R&D (as an engineer) and now full time in Regulatory Affairs (legal function) in medical devices.

Interested in IP and Patent law with my engineering background and have worked in biotech/life science for a long time.

Thoughts on applying ED? Will this greater my chances of acceptance? Is this school too high a reach for someone with my LSAT score?

Realistically, I don't think I'll be able to re-take the LSAT for a third time (August) and boost it up to anywhere near the median. I know some people have suggested I take a third time, aiming closer to 163 (L25 is 164). I know myself and working full-time still, studying this summer and writing my personal statement (and getting ready for application cycle), I just don't see myself committing the entirety of my free time to re-studying a third time..

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...be sure to take into account upcoming medians, not last year's posted numbers.

With June score release a few days away, a lot of you will soon be agonizing over whether your score is "good enough" for applications in September, or a retake is warranted. Just a quick reminder that you are heading into another unpredictable cycle, and last year's numbers are not reliable. Example: Cornell is currently sitting at medians of 168/3.86, however their average admit for the closing cycle is 172/3.89 based on self reported applicant data. Columbia is holding a 172/3.82 and admitted an average of 174/3.86. Of course this doesn't mean that everyone (or even anyone) will be jumping 2-4 LSAT points, but there is good reason to believe that in general, medians are going up. Whether schools will see the jump this year as anomalous and stick to maintaining last years medians, or see it as sustainable and try to maintain or even better their new medians I have no idea... conjecture welcome, but I think its reasonable to assume like any cycle that if higher numbers appear achievable, they will target them.

You guys are in a weird timeframe right now where incoming class medians have yet to be released, and IMO its best to play it safe and continue to prep if there is any doubt that your score puts a target school/scholarship outcome comfortably within range. That may sound pessimistic, but you do not want to end up like people this cycle who thought they were good to go and are now looking at joining you for another cycle. There is no shortage of them at every score range. Between now and August-ish (school releases) to December (509 release) median releases, I would not want to see anyone lose valuable prep time and suddenly realize they are behind the curve. If you think you have it in you to do better, my recommendation is to play it safe and keep grinding. You can always stop if you decide it's not feasible/worthwhile.

Contrasting opinions welcome... I'd love to see a discussion to provide everyone with a range of opinions to help with the decision making.

Also good luck on Wednesday... no matter what happens, you all are rockstars.

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I want to make a study group for those that are currently scoring between 168 and 174ish. With a small group of individuals, we could make a group chat where we discuss questions that we had regarding specific questions that we got stumped on. Specifically, it could be beneficial if we all take the same practice test(s) a week, and then go over the questions that each individual got wrong - say on zoom or FaceTime. It would make the review process more active & fun. Comment below & then DM me your name/number if you're comfortable with that.

I just graduated from undergrad in California.

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You can do:

P: A some B

C: A most B

But you cannot do:

P: A most B

C: A some B

Is this right? Some includes most, which is why in the first example it is correct, but most does not include some, hence why the second example is false correct? For specific reference, I was confused on PT 42, Section 4, Number 22 which is why I had this question.

anything would help! THANKS!

#help #help

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Hey everyone, I am new here. Is a year too long to study for the LSAT? A little background about me. I am almost 30, a single mom of one, and I have a 3.9 gpa. I don’t like the idea of cramming this information. As I want to be able to enjoy learning how to master this test. Is a year appropriate?

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Hi! Can any one explain how they approached this parallel flaw question about perception? JY tries mapping but it would take me a long time to do and I am trying to see if there's something about the structure of the stimulus that can be used to get to the answer choice. Any explanation would be really helpful!!

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of question"

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-1-question-23/

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Hi everyone,

I am going through 7Sage CC, and I am currently on Alicia’s Bank Deposits – PF Question (PT31.S2.Q21).

JY drew the Lawgic of the stimulus as the following:

BDC->B3

AK (B3)

AK (BDC)

However, I drew the Lawgic of the stimulus as:

BDC->B3

AK->B3

AK->BDC

I was able to derive the answer and get the question correct. However, I am just wondering whether being able to draw the exact same Lawgic as JY is required to do exceptionally well on this test (175+).

Please share your insight!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-2-question-21/

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I have a hard time understanding why C is wrong.

My case for C is this:

Why would they need to increase their safeguards if they have the greatest safeguards out there. That would mean they can’t improve and so it would weaken

Because if we are going to sell them on this idea and physics say “no thanks this is 100% effective” how can we counter that?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-4-question-22/

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Is this a correlation-causation argument because it assumes that the increase in high school dropouts is the only thing that is causing the increase in recruitment among 18 year olds? And why would the author draw such a conclusion?

And I know there's an explanation vid for this, but why is A incorrect? If the conclusion had said "solely dependent" on high school dropouts, would A weaken?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-11/

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Saturday, Jun 26, 2021

Trouble With LR

I have made a forum previously with my deficiencies regard LR however, I have completed most of the 7sage LR curriculum and really have not seen any improvement. I take the LSAT in august does anyone have tips to maximize my time and get better?

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When the explanations aren't satisfying and/or when you are stuck in your own loop of reasoning, I think it's important to have a group to bounce ideas off of each other and get a new perspective. So, if you DM me your name and number, we can make a small group and help each other out.

p.s. I don't care if you have a boyfriend, that's not why I'm asking for your digits.

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We hope to see you on Clubhouse!

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Hi everyone,

This question (PT32.S4.Q21) is one of the sample question posted on 7Sage CC.

It is a parallel flaw question that requires us to draw Lawgic. The stimulus does not have the word, "most." However, three of five answer choices have the word, "most." I saw in other JY's videos that if the stimulus does not contain "most," we can automatically eliminate those answer choices containing "most" for parallel questions. However, in the video https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/experimental-psychology-pf-question/, JY did not do that. Could you all please share your insight with this?

I got down to drawing the Lawgic correct from the stimulus but I erroneously eliminated choices A, B, and D because I thought since they contain the word, "most," the answer choices are automatically incorrect.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-4-question-21/

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