I could write a novel about my LSAT journey, but I’ll do my best to keep it concise. I’ve taken this test 4 times over the span of over a year. A continuation of my last post,

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18534/how-to-overcome-lsat-panic-anxiety

I was diagnosed by both my GP and specialist with severe anxiety and panic attacks that become prevalent especially during the LSAT administration. I followed their instructions, took beta-blockers and perhaps most importantly changed my mindset about the exam. I think a main contributor to my anxiety was the fear of disappointing my family and even worse not getting accepted to law school. My November 2018 take (3rd go), was a 154 and although almost 20 points below by PT’s was enough to get me into law school. This mindset for my January 2019 take (4th go) was to tell myself no matter how I did today, I could go to law school. The good news was I had near ZERO anxiety for the administration and it felt so liberating. It truly felt like it was the first real take of mine. The bad news was that the room I was placed in my unbearably hot. It was so hot that the proctors opted to take turns stepping out because it was just that bad. Worse for me I wore just a sweatshirt (because winter) and I had to sit in that swamp for 2 sections until they could find us another room. I ended up scoring a 164 which is a fantastic score but I was still upset by the fact that I’m sure most of my points were lost in the first two sections and if it wasn’t for that, I would be near close to my PT score.

So I took what I got and applied to several target schools along with the few now safety schools I had applied to in November.

Now sitting here with what looks to be a disappointing cycle, I’m unsure where to turn. Before dealing with this LSAT roller-coaster, I always wanted to go to Harvard. Unfortunately, that was just not going to happen so I sent an application to BC and got waitlisted. My best offer is currently from Temple with a 2/3rd scholarship with in-state tuition. Temple is a great law school however I personally did not see myself going there. In a perfect world I would want to move and practice up north but I don’t think Temple could make that a possibility.

Anyways since I’ve been on this journey for so long my family keeps asking me when I’m going to law school. My whole family expected me to take it once in December of 2017, apply for the upcoming cycle, and enter law school in the fall of 2018. Even with score of 141 on that December take, my grandparents insisted I go to anyone that accepted me and they would cover the cost. My family keeps saying “it’s not where you go as long as you pass the bar in the end”. It’s just hard to break their mindset that a lot of schools even with decent bar pass rates still have mediocre employment outcomes for their students. This of course is only one variable to consider when making a huge decision like law school but my family is all of the mindset of “just go so you can get a law job asap”. Since of taken that LSAT 4 times already, they keep telling me I’m wasting my life away and they are questioning if I even want to go to law school. The worst part is that my grandparents are willing to pay my entire law school bill no matter where it is. While I’m thankful I have that option open to me, I would only be comfortable taking that for a school like Harvard. With what I know I can do, I can get into some great schools with some good money and I don’t need anyone to pay for what they don’t need to. When I first brought up the subject of delaying yet another cycle, everyone was furious with me. Even though they have somewhat lightened up to the fact law school might not happen for me this year, they still are heavily persuading me to go this cycle.

So I believe I’m left with 3 options.

Accepting Temples 2/3rd scholarship offer and entering law school Fall 2019

Delaying law school until Fall 2020 and applying with the score I have now. Based on lawschoolnumbers and the like, I will have a much more favorable outcome scholarship and acceptance wise to the schools I’ve applied to this February.

Retaking the LSAT once more in June and aim for that 170+ score I know I can get and shoot for T-14 (Harvard) and a secure BC offer for Fall 2020

I left out a lot of the drama but I can't stress enough how much my family just want me to go this cycle.

So i am halfway through the CC (im on flaw descriptive) my main concern is while im going through the CC, will i be able to remember the other question types (strategies on how to tackle them) do you guys have any tips not to forget everything i learned until now?

Hello Everyone, please, can someone give me some advice. I have been studying on and off for the past nine months, and I am still having a great degree of difficulty with timing. My accuracy for each section is about 70% under real time, but I am only finish 3/4 logic games for every test I take, and 3/4 passages under real time for the RC section. As for the Logical Reasoning sections, I consistently finish somewhere from 17-19 questions. and end up getting 4/17, making me miss a whopping 11 questions per logical reasoning section. In the nine months that I have studied I typically just do drills, and as a result I have only taken like 3 diagnostic exams, because each time I see my score, become very depressed, so I just do drills and forget about taking a whole exam. Now, because I am struggling with reading and logic games especially, I am taking the rest of this month to do the RC and LG sections for preptest 40-49, and to study a few parts of the core curriculum. And then I will start doing full length practice exams again. My diagnostic score is a 148 without any guessing on questions. The whole time I've been studying for this exam, I have questioned whether I will ever reach my target score of the mid 160s. My mother is a nurse and worked 12 hour shifts 5-6 nights a week to put me through undergrad, and wanted to go to Law school, but she couldn't because she had me at an untimely point in her life! I want to go to a T20 so bad!!

In 2.5 months, I will be leaving for China to serve in the Peace Corps to teach english at a university in Southern, China. I am pretty positive that after my first 3 months of being there and settling in, I will have a few hours each day to study after classes and what not. People in my life are telling me to just take the exam in June, but I don't want to score too low. Also, there are test centers in China, but if I am correct, I would not be able to see what I missed after the scores come in.

I would be so eternally grateful for any advice anyone has for me regarding when to take the exam, or the RC section. I think that I can improve my LR and LG sections with more practice, but I am completely defeated when it comes to RC, just did a practice section now, and scored -11 out of 26...

In general, for Logic Games execution, I am curious do most write directly on their base diagram or create local diagrams incorporating the new inference specific to the question? For some games when I split the board I don’t see this as much of an issue (although it still can be), but when I have one base diagram I find myself erasing a lot as I move to the next Q which inherently feels like I’m wasting time. Curious if others find it more efficient to draw up a whole new diagram or erase from the base and fill in the new inference for each subsequent Q. I feel like erasing causes me to lose work I can refer back to later, but writing out whole new diagrams feels like it can take up time as well.

My son wants to work in Michigan after law school in government job of some kind. Did not get into u of m, not retaking LSAT. Should he go to lower ranked school in Michigan or higher ranked out of state? If he goes to osu or indiana will he be able to get a job in government in Michigan?

MSU- full tuition plus leadership group (guaranteed internships, externships, mentor, networking)

WAYNE- full tuition

OSU- full tuition if gets residency 2L and 3L

Indiana- 2/3 scholarship

Hi there,

Is anyone down to study (seriously hammer out LSAT questions) in the Los Angeles area? I'm in the Cerritos area. I plan on taking the July exam.

So I wrote the LSAT in Jan and did alright, have already applied for schools but have a feeling i'll have to take a gap year and reapply with a better score. Just seeing as I am still in school and starting work full-time in the summer, I'm looking at taking the September or October 2019 LSATs. That being the case, they will be the digital version.

I've been absent from this forum for a while and am just wondering how 7sage will be incorporating the changes. Will PTs be done online going forward on the site or will it stay in the current paper format. Sorry if this had already been answered numerous times, just thinking about it is stressing me out lol.

Hey everyone,

I just upgraded to Ultimate+ from the Starter course. Where can I find the drill packs? Is it actually a drill pack or is it just all the questions built into the question bank? Sorry in advance if this is a silly question!!!

Edit: NVM, I found them :)

I'm hitting 2 games with a few mistakes, but then I get to the third and fourth and I get overwhelmed because I took too long on the first two. Today, I scored a 159 on my practice test because I only got 11 right in LG, but the rest I was satisfied about relative to how terrible my LGs are. (23 in RC, 21 & 17 in LR)

Do I just need to foolproof LGs up until the test day?

Anyone in the area looking for a study buddy/buddies?

Hello All,

Does anybody know if being educated overseas is a disadvantage? I am Australian educated with an A average in college, with a graduate degree as well, and I have had some years of relevant work experience. I scored 173 on the lsat in January but have so far heard nothing from UCLA, USC, Lewis and Clark (had interviews with Lewis and UCLA, but nothing since). The only other school I was applied to was Berkeley, where I was accepted but haven't received any gift aid. Because I have not been admitted anywhere else, I have no bargaining power with Berkeley.

I am just trying to figure out what's happened here, as I thought a good lsat score was the key to admissions. I am very discouraged by the whole situation :(

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[From PT69, Section 1, #20]

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"The reasoning in the doctor's argument is most vulnerable to criticism on which of the following grounds?"

So which is it, medical reporter or doctor?

Can it be the tests are created by human beings? Nah, probably just a glitch in the matrix.

Hi guys,

My current score is 156. There is only 11 before my next test and I really hope to get a 160+ this time.

How should I spend the last 11 days to reach my goal? Since I have finished almost all of the PT for last test, if it's still effective for me to keep mocking test myself?

Any advice would be appreciated! Thank you!

I don't understand how A can be the answer.

A says "no evidence in favor of a hypothesis," but the proponents of the hypothesis is giving us evidence. He explains the fossil thing etc how come this doesn't count as evidence backing up his claim?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-1-question-09/

Can someone please explain to me how the argument is flawed and why the correct answer is B?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-21/

Dear all,

I am waitlisted at some of my top choices, and I am a few points below their 25th percentile LSAT. I am wondering how even a point or 2 improvement on the March test (for which I am already registered) might affect my waitlist status. I also plan to write letters of continuing interest.

Hello everyone,

I found this to be an incredibly difficult question. I did get the question right, but I did not feel good at all about my answer choice timed or in blind review. I eliminated the other answer choices because they just seemed outlandish, but I really looked hard at the stimulus and can find precious little textual support for E. Why would it not be possible for the mussels to absorb some of the hazardous waste, but not necessarily become hazardous waste themselves? To me it seemed like that really was making an assumption. I can agree by using my real world knowledge that E would make sense, but in the world of the LSAT where tiny assumptions can separate correct/incorrect answer choices, I really felt that E was just asking me to go much farther than I was comfortable with.

Because of my doubts, I came incredibly close to changing my answer to D in blind review, and even now looking back I can still feel the doubts lingering. Is there something that is just going way over my head here? Does someone else see something in the text that clearly and demonstrably makes E the better answer choice than D?

Thanks so much!

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Hey everyone. I know someone who interviewed for Harvard in mid/late February and he has been eagerly awaiting a decision. If he was to be accepted, when is he likely to hear back by? Thanks!

I just want to say I'm so grateful that I found this community and these resources. I can't imagine prepping for this giant test with such unreasonable time limitations without it. Although it's super tough and frustrating at times, I feel like the concepts are gelling and I'm forming better habits every day. Go, team!

Hey all,

This might be a bit early, but I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about how 7Sage will update its curriculum & strategies heading into the Digital LSAT? How soon can we expect 7Sage to update its content to take on the digital version of the LSAT?

Hi Everyone,

I am facing significant challenges with timing on the arguments section. As of right now, It takes me nearly 20 minutes to get through the first 10 questions on each arguments section. On one section recently I got 10 right but had 8 blank and 7 incorrect.

I am increasing my understanding of question types from the core curriculum but it’s not translating into increased speed/accuracy/right answers when I take practice tests. Does anyone have any tips that actually worked for them and subsequently improved their timing? How did you increase your pace?

Thanks so much 7Sagers!

I'm currently scoring in the high 160s to mid 170s on the earlier PTs, but significantly lower (about 5 points) on the more recent PTs (60s and later). I don't have that many data points, but this is a trend I'm already starting to notice and since the recent exams are a better indicator of what the upcoming exams will be like, I'm inclined to put much more weight on the lower scores for an accurate gauge of where I am. I'm registered for the March exam, and I'm aiming for somewhere in the high 160s, and 170+ eventually (am tentatively planning to take a second time in July). I'd really like to close the gap and continue raising my score — has anybody had a similar discrepancy between the earlier and more recent practice tests, and how did you overcome it? Even within the two "categories" of practice tests, I'd like to close the gap so that I'm only fluctuating a few points rather than 5-6. Thanks in advance!

Hey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary?

Does it have the same concept as when you see both group 3 and group 4 indicators in one sentence.

Example- If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not (not - group 4) a Koala Bear-

Do we translate it into Lawgic as [S arrow K] or is it translated as usual [s/ arrow k/]

Thanks in advance

M