I start off the test performing well with a clear mind, and usually go -0 to -3 on the 1st and 2nd section. Yet when I get to the 3rd section, I feel like I'm not as focused, my mind isn't as clear. And this reflects itself in my score on that section, this usually effects me more on LR because the tricky questions do require a bit more concentration. When I'm fatigued I tend to go -7 on LR, it's like I can't concentrate on the questions deeply like I could during the 1st and 2nd sections. When I go to BR I bring it from -7 to at least -2, I really do think it's an issue of concentration and not boredom/distracted.

I plan to take 8 sections of LR with 15min after the 4th one. Do you guys think this will help? Or should I just take two four section PTs back to back with 15min in between instead? I'm trying to use my time more efficiently, and right now my core issue is being clear headed/not fatigued right at the 3rd section. I've read @"Seeking Perfection" recommend taking two PTs with 15min in between them. I don't have a problem with burn out at all, only loss of concentration/fatigue.

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone can guide me to a proper game plan working toward the September test.

A little back story...

I took a summer class with Blueprint two years ago hoping to take the September 2016 test. However, it ended up not being feasible with all that I was involved with at school so I decided to push it off a year and focused on keeping my GPA up (graduated 3.74).

Despite EVERYONE advising not to take the LSAT unless I'm 100% ready, I took the September 2017 test while I was in Korea dealing with a family situation (too long to desc on here). With about 1.5 months of studying, I ended up with a 160 after a week or two of PTing around 165-168.

Fast forward to this year, I've come back from a year in Korea dealing with the family stuff... pretty ready to tackle the LSAT for September. I took a new diagnostic with June 2007 since I've not touched anything LSAT related after that test and what do you know, a 160 (LR:-12, RC:-8, LG:-3).

So now I'm kind of confused as to where to go from here. I’m planning on studying full time btw. I clearly struggle with RC, and miss many of the difficult questions in LR, but I feel it might be too time consuming to go through the fundamentals again? Would you recommend that I jump into drilling the harder questions or is that essentially a fundamentals issue and I definitely should go through the CC?

My top choice is Columbia, but I'm not even certain it's possible by September. I was just hoping to maximize my chances by applying early but am considering pushing back if I see potential.

Sorry for the super long post, but as you can tell, I'm a little eager to end this LSAT journey and get to law school. If you have ANY advice for someone like me, I'd really appreciate it and it'll really help my anxiety. Thank you for reading this far!

How do you pre-phrase correctly? I notice that when I get an answer wrong and I look at someone else pre-phrase that they was right on. I tried the pre-phrasing but mines are nothing close to what JY or others are coming up with. I can spot the conclusion and premise and I try mixing them together and still ending up missing the point with the pre-phrase

Word around town is that the July exam is going to be one of those exams that LSAC pulls out of the vault from several years ago, so doing PTs 75-83 might not be the best way to prepare for it.

Curious as to how far back yall are going in the PTs?

Personally don't think they're gonna go back too far so I'm doing pts 60-70.

I was thinking about taking the GRE. Not for law school but for potential joint degree programs. Is anyone else here studying for the GRE? If so, can you recommend any prep courses? Thanks!

Does anybody have any idea why the answer choice is (a) for this question? I couldn't find an answer so I ended up eliminating all of the answer choices because none of them seemed to make sense. Answer choice (a) seems to strengthen the argument, if anything. Someone please help! Thank you!

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any advice on how to re-approach logical reasoning questions when you've pretty much did every question and sort of remember the answer? How do you about doing these questions again? I made the mistake of burning through all of them and now I'm studying them again for a retake. I'm kind of worried because people are telling me that I won't improve much since I don't have any fresh new questions that I haven't seen before. Please tell me this isn't true lol

I'm wondering whether I should start foolproofing LG while I am going through the core curriculum for the first time, or whether I should go through the core curriculum first and then begin foolproofing once I'm done? I have seen conflicting responses to this question, so I would really appreciate some feedback on what the best approach is. Thanks!

I took the past Dec and Feb test to squeeze into this past cycle. Did ok but knew I left so many points and law schools on the table.

I decided to retake the LSAT in July. I feel waaaay more prepared this time. However, because full refunds are offered to July takers who keep their scores, I decided to sign up for the Sept LSAT as insurance. It was only intended as insurance for if something weird happened on my July LSAT day, I'd have another option to take it and still apply early. If July went well, then I'd just cancel Sept and get a full refund (not just the $50).

But knowing even a difference of 2 extra points could have a huge impact of schools and financial aid, I'm now just thinking of taking it in regardless of what happens in July (although a 172 or higher I would cancel). This would mean taking it a 4th time vs. a 3rd time. However, at this point I don't think there is a real difference, especially if I could do better. Am I wrong to think this? Thanks.

Hi all, just feeling a little frustrated today. I'm taking the July LSAT, and today's PT came out 3 points lower than my last one. I also haven't been doing as hot on some other sections in the past few days.

Part of me knows that it's just an off day, and these things fluctuate, and it's about the overall picture, not the individual data points. But at the same time, I'm feeling really annoyed and frustrated. How do you all get back from off days like that? Or, alternatively, should I actually be concerned?

I just finished a first draft of my personal statement. Would anyone be willing to take a look and provide some feedback? I would really appreciate it. I don't mind swapping essays.

Thanks!

US News and Business currently ranks GW Law 22 I believe; it’s not a t14 but is GW Law still a good law school? I’m an undergrad here and got into a masters program awarded by the law and business school

For anyone who has taken a video of themselves doing a time LSAT, how do you transfer such a large file from your phone to your computer so that you can view the footage in detail? I tried uploading to YouTube but it's forcing it to be 240p since it's such a large file.

Anyone have a better method for iPhone?

After finishing the CC and taking various separate sections over the course of June, I took my first full timed test today and hit a 160. I went -17 LR, -7 games, -5 RC (the test had a -14 curve luckily) With my target score being a 166, what is the likelihood of me hitting this by the July 23 test? Also, any recommendations on how I should best approach this goal? Thanks for the insight.

If I don't go forward with a certain school after applying to it or don't pursue with their application, does it hurt to apply to the same school again for next year? Will they still offer scholarship if I get same or higher marks on LSAT since I had not pursued with their application and waited to apply in the next cycle?

Can someone who has experience with admissions reply!

I appreciate your help in this!

Thanks

I think this is a necessary assumption question. Correct me if I'm wrong please!

Summary of stimulus:

Context:

In the EU, schoolchildren do daily calisthenics during school.

In North America, schoolchildren rarely do daily calisthenics during school.

Premise:

Tests show that North American children are weaker, slower, and shorter-winded than European children.

Conclusion:

North American schoolchildren can be made physically fit -> North American schoolchildren do daily calisthenics

Notes:

Reading the ACs:

A) Children -> can be made physically fit by daily calisthenics. This should be crossed out since we don't need ALL children to be made physically fit when our conclusion is just about North American children. Is there another reason to eliminate A?

B ) Children -> can be made equally physically fit by daily calisthenics; I don't know if the children have to be made equally physically fit. They just need to get to a level where they are physically fit. Wrong.

C) We are concerned about physical fitness in this argument, not about health. Wrong.

D) This says school calisthenics are a necessary factor in EU children's physical fitness--this is what the author assumes.

E) We don't care about the children eating more nutritious diets/exercising daily--we care about calisthenics! Wrong.

Am I writing the conditionals in A and B wrong? I originally picked A because I thought it would guarantee the conclusion--which is wrong to do bc this isn't an SA question. Is A wrong for additional reasons that I've listed above?

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Hey guys!

So I'm worried that I may have not done well on the June 2018 lsat, but I didn't cancel. I really do want to see how I did. If I study and significantly improve on the November 2018 LSAT, does anyone know of a really bad past test score negatively affecting admission into a tier 2 law school like St Johns or Brooklyn? I know a lot of people are saying that I should have canceled, but wouldn't the law schools like to see a significant improvement to showcase your willingness to work harder and not give up?

I really want to start this year so I emailed the school of choice (buffalo) to see if they’d take my july exam. It’s my first score. Here’s what they said: just didn’t know if you guys had any thoughts if I’d have a shot or not. Like if spots are filled etc. I have a meeting Monday. Thanks!

Thank you for your email. July LSAT scores are expected to be released on or around August 10, which is just 10 (or so) days before mandatory orientation and just 11 days before 1L classes begin (LAWR). While it's technically possible for us to accept the July LSAT, you would need to be prepared, if admitted, to begin law school in about a week's time. If you are interested in applying with the July LSAT, I encourage you to schedule a short phone call with Dean Lindsay Gladney to discuss in greater detail.

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Hi All,

When you take your practice tests do you use the distractions on the proctor tool? I began using it this practice test on a level 3 volume, and it sounded like the person next to me was tearing up their test page by page! I know some people have had bad experiences when taking the test as far as distractions, but is it generally as bad as the distraction tool on the app? My testing environment before was subject to occasional interruptions from outside my apartment or my dog, but after I began using the app's distractions, my score tanked 5 points.

I suppose prepare for the worst hope for the best?

What would you do?

Let's form a study group! :sunglasses:

Hey everyone for rc did you use older passages for drilling ? (Under pt 50 ). I’ve seen discussions saying they are too different to be useable . Thanks

Hey everyone- with the ultimate I have up to pt 72 for the explanations. I also want access to the more recent pts. Should I purchase a few individually ? Upgrade my package ? I also need to renew my account as well.

Hi 7sagers,

So I just had a pretty disappointing performance on LG and I am starting to get worried about my ability to improve my score by September. I spent the last month or so fool-proofing LG and I just took PT 32 timed and scored a -8 in LG. To put that in perspective, I scored a -8 on LG 1 month ago (before i started really fool-proofing). This means that across 25ish PT's worth of games I found no (consistent) improvement. Across the first 30 PT's my best score for a section was -2, but that's very rare for me. On average I'd guess that my LG score is something like -5 for a section. I'm starting to think that I need to start fool-proofing over from the beginning again.

Additionally, despite the fact that I have completed the CC, my LR scores are around -6/-7 per section and my RC is at -10. This puts my PT average, accounting for variance, somewhere between 158 and 161 with a BR score of 172-174. If I want to improve to a 170 by September, what do I need to do to have the best shot? Is a 9-12 point improvement in this situation unrealistic for two months? Should I restart fool-proofing until i'm consistently -3 or better? Should I start working more on RC since i'm losing about 10 points per section in this area? Should I still be taking a PT every Saturday?

I would really appreciate any feedback about similar situations or any advice that you all can give me. I don't expect anyone to answer all of these questions but I'd like to put it out there as this is a pretty big personal let-down.

Thanks

Hi guys!

I've been working on my PS, and I keep wondering if I should somehow tie it into my interests in law, or just leave it be. It's so far about overcoming generational expectations on women (or lack thereof) and becoming a first generation college student/ degree holder. I kind of feel like it sets up an obvious path to higher learning and my desire for it, but doesn't quite tie into law exactly. Does it really need to? Can it just stand alone as a story about realizing obstacles and overcoming them in my pursuit of education and a better life?

Hi everyone! Does anyone know of law schools that offer financial incentives for those that apply early decision? I know WUSTL and BU have such programs, but looking to see all of my options. Thanks!