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So since beginning my LSAT journey in April 2018, I've seen my RC improve as I worked through PT's 1-60. However, after taking a few PT's in the 70's my RC score has plummeted. I've noticed that the passages are similar and I am not having an issue understanding the passages.. However, the answer choices seem more convoluted to me and even through BR I have a very hard time understanding and learning from trap answer choices. Another problem is that drilling earlier PT's is not helping and I can't drill the 70's and 80's for RC purposes since I'm saving them for full tests. I would appreciate any advice on how to improve and learn from my mistakes.

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"LSAT will be fully digital in North America starting September 2019"

Full press release here:

https://www.lsac.org/about/news/lsac-announces-digital-lsat-launch-schedule

The press release strongly implies that starting in Sept. 2019, there won't be an option to take paper LSATs anymore. (Maybe they'll offer the paper test as an accommodation?)

It did not specify whether there will be the option to have scratch paper (for LG).

Good news is that they're offering it 9 times a year starting in 2019-2020.

The LSAC is making the July 15, 2019 test a special transition test where students get to see their scores first before deciding to cancel! That's huge. You should sign up to take the July test. I don't think they're extending this option to other LSAT administrations.

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Hey guys,

I had a quick question. I am applying to all the Law Schools in Ontario. I was wondering that do I apply through LSAC or OLSAS ?

I would appreciate if someone would let me know :)

Thanks

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Hi everybody - I am hoping to get some opinions on whether or not the following topic could be a solid Personal Statement idea or if it might make my law school motivations appear misguided.

I would like to write my essay on how my parents are what initially made me want to pursue a career in law. They founded a small PI law firm about 25 years ago - my dad is an attorney at the firm and my mom is the director of the firm's business and marketing. Seeing my dad in the courtroom as a child and witnessing the difference he made for so many of his clients was very inspirational to me. Additionally, the fact that my parents founded and have since expanded the firm and that they both put have put so much of themselves into the firm over the years means a lot to me. I would like to work for the firm as an attorney one day and eventually continue our family business.

But I am just worried that this could make me sound like I only want to become a lawyer in order to be like my dad and have a family business handed to me someday (which, for the avoidance of doubt, is not the case).

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Hi everyone,

So far I have taken 9 RC timed sections. On all 9 RC timed sections I do at worst -10 and at best -7. My BR score is usually around -3. I am looking for advice on how to improve from here. I usually finish all four passages right on time, meaning I typically only have around 30 seconds to spare at the end. My average passage reading time is around 3 minutes. I notice I tend to spend most of my time on the questions, I have been trying to implement a skipping strategy so I don't spin my wheels on any one question.

Strategies I have tried:

Spending 10 minutes on each of the first 3 passages by confirming as many answers as I can by referring back to the passage and then essentially speed reading and "throwing a hail Mary for the 4th passage"

Increasing my speed + skipping questions so I finish all passages and have a reasonable shot at answering questions - this is my most recent strategy.

I have seen the slightly greater improvements using the second strategy.

I do not have a consistent notation strategy for marking up the passage, I have just been focusing on understanding as much as I can and underlining what I believe to be important sentences.

What is the best way to improve from here?

Should I continue to drill RC sections, knowing that the actual test consists of 4 passages at a time, or should I work on perfecting my abilities on single passages?

I would love to break this plateau. Ideally I would like my average RC section to be -5 or better.

Any thoughts appreciated!

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I tried to print off the bundle and it pretty much came with the border...said 7sAge and number on it, but the text didn’t. I just got the first page and that’s it and I know I’m not out of ink. It’s just with the LG BUNDLE. Is there any way someone can check this for me because I need to print them off?

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Hi guys,

I am progressively getting worse at LR. My first handful of PTs I was -4 on average. The next batch was around 5 and 6. I took last week to review my CC in depth on the question types I was missing most and today I am -9 and -11.

I am scoring 50/50 with Flaw and struggle with NA too. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated! I went from 167, to the mid 160s, to today in the 150s. Really confused and disheartened to be getting worse scores with time...

Thanks!

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See my post on 17 Dec below for update:

After submitting my apps to schools that I am seriously considering, I opened up my data to the LSAC CRS program, thereby eliciting the typical volume of fee waivers and marketing emails one gets from this service. Based on school solicitations, I have done a deep dive on a few, including Boston College. Up front, I don't feel that I would be a competitive applicant for Boston College, either for admission or for any significant amount of scholarship. However, one part of their application's fine print made a statement, to wit: Any scholarship offer will be reduced based on any veteran's benefits you receive so that the two combined will not exceed the cost of tuition.

As a veteran, I took serious offense at this statement. What I earned as a benefit in my 25 years of military service has absolutely zero to do with and should be totally independent of any scholarship consideration a school should give me.

No other school that I've applied to or looked at has made any statement remotely similar to this one. Has anyone else seen anything like it?

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If you're registered for an upcoming international LSAT, please double check your reporting times!

I just went to print my ticket for Saturday and noticed the registration time is now 8:30am, not 2:30pm as was listed when I registered.

I've phoned the LSAC who said that yes, the time was changed from 2:30pm to 8:30am some time in mid-September. I asked if there was some sort of error - was I supposed to be notified, or did I receive an email but just not see it?

The answer is 'no', it just so happens the LSAC doesn't have a policy of notifying registrants if the test-time changes from the advertised time. They just change it and hope you notice when you print your ticket - which they instruct you to print as close to the test-day as possible..!

Brb while I try and find a last minute hotel or figure out how to wake up at 2:30am for a 9am test and not feel like garbage.

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I unfortunately made a minor mistake in all my statements for one of the law schools. In the header, I included my name, what type of document (personal statement, etc.), and my LSAC ID. I messed up my LSAC ID. I somehow did not add the last number of my ID, so it is noticeable that it is not a complete ID number.

Should I contact the admissions and ask to submit the revised documents? It is my top law school but I made this stupid mistake in an otherwise flawless application. I only submitted the application 2 days ago.

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Hey y'all. This is not just a ploy for "atta girl". But feeling a little isolated in my study world. And a little freaked out for November test. I took my first test almost 2 years ago, finished college, started studying regularly last fall, but got sidetracked by getting married. Now 6 weeks out I have the time to devote like I wanted after balancing studying and life all summer. Discouraged with not making much progress on timed sections, drilling and BR'ing. So, diving into the 7sage community for thoughts/advice and hopefully I'm not the only one in this boat!

November or bust!

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i've heard many 170+ scorers rarely map out logic or do any writing when taking timed PT's.

How long did it take you to get there?

Do top scorers NEVER map out logic, or hand write notes while taking timed PT's?

For certain SA and MBT lawgic questions, sometimes I feel that I HAVE to write out the lawgic. There are just so many ideas to juggle around, and it's so difficult to keep track of them all in my mind.

the tough thing is the convoluted GRAMMER/referential phrasing plus the logic. It's really hard to keep all those ideas straight in my head without hand mapping it out.

Any general ideas/suggestions on how to get to a point of mastery/fluency with logic??? one example of this is that i wouldn't have to hand write out logic when i see it?

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Bit of a specific request. My GPA/LSAT are 3.46/169. I graduated in 2011 and have pretty solid work experience and strong extracurriculars. So far I've gotten waivers from Penn and Michigan. Looking at LSN it looks like people with my numbers have been admitted to both at decent rates.

Here's the issue - the latter half of my college years were sort of marred by mental health issues related to a side-effects, dependency, and withdrawal symptoms for a medication I was prescribed but in hindsight should have never been taking. I went from straight A's my first two years to a basket of B's and C's my later two years.

I plan to write an addendum for this for top 5 schools - because I figure my chances there are slim anyway, my gpa (and probably LSAT) will absolutely be an issue for them and explaining the circumstances can only help

For schools like Penn and Michigan where I have a waiver, should I bother explaining anything? Or will the explanation just hurt my already okay chances? The worst on my transcript are a few C's Junior/Senior year, and then a withdrawal (non-punitive) from 3 courses my last semester.

What about other T-14 schools where I don't have a waiver. Addendum or no?

Thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!

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Wednesday, Oct 3, 2018

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Hi guys,

LSAC offers a forum in which they have workshops about the LSAT and law school apps, as well reps from many of the schools who are there to talk to you. The NYC one is coming up at the end of October.

Questions: if I don't plan on applying until next year, would it still be beneficial for me to attend the workshops and meet with the law schools? Is there an advantage to attending the forum a year early? Is the event even worth attending at all? If there is benefit, what is it and how can I benefit most?

Would appreciate feedback from anyone who was in my situation or who has in general attended the forums.

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Hey everyone! I know I haven't been too active in the discussion posts, but I read them every day and they are so helpful! I just wanted to share my experience for anyone who needs an extra pick-me-up, as I often came to the discussion posts for positivity. I took my diagnostic test in February of 2018, and got a 141. Thank goodness it was just practice, because I felt that I was sure that I was not going to law school after that exam. I gave up for a few months, and bought 7Sage in June and decided to just try it and take the September exam and see how it went. If I didn't do well then I would have just picked a new career path. Over the summer, I fell in love with the exam. I actually had fun studying, which is a sentence that I don't think I've ever said. After busting my butt all summer, I walked into the September exam feeling like a queen, and I walked out feeling like I did about my usual practice test scores which by the end of the summer was around a 157. I was happy with going from a 141 to a 157 in about 3 months, but I just got my score back and I got a 162!!! I can't even begin to explain the amount of happy tears that were shed. If you are feeling down, take a break, and restart! This exam is possible to learn, if you put the hard work into it. The first time I took the practice and got a 141, I only got 3 correct on the Logic Games section. On the September exam, I only missed 1 LG question! I'm not going to lie to you, I did nothing but study for 6 hours a day for 3 months, but going from a 141 to a 162 is one of the best feelings I have ever had. Please keep your head up because if I can do it, then you can too! Thank you JY and 7Sage! You made learning fun, and I owe my success story to you!

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Hello everyone!

There are two schools I am seriously considering going to next fall, first choice being the University of Utah and second being the University of Montana. My GPA is 3.92, so above the 75th percentile for both schools, but my LSAT is 159, which is above the 75th percentile for Montana but at the median for Utah.

In order for me to financially justify going to Utah (would have to pay all 3 years of out of state tuition, their new policy) I would need a substantial scholarship. With the LSAT score I have, I don't think I will be offered enough in scholarships to justify going there. However, I just recently found out the Utah just implemented an ED program. In general, I think applying ED is a bad idea in most instances, but for out of state students that are accepted ED at Utah receive a $75,000 scholarship (roughly 65% of base tuition for 3 years). The only conditions to keep the scholarship are to 1). maintain a 2.5 GPA and 2). don't violate any student conduct rules.

While it would be great to receive a scholarship of that size to a school I want to go to, I am uncertain of how difficult it is to attain a 2.5 GPA in 1L. While I take pride in my academic performance and don't think I would have an issue keeping that GPA, I have no clue what types of grades are generally given out in 1L and how the grading curve would factor into that? I am just trying to be as cautious as possible since it would be very unfortunate to lose out on that amount of money and end up paying sticker price after the first year.

Montana is far more affordable, and I can be reclassified as an in-state student after the first year. I suppose my question is how do you guys feel about receiving scholarships with GPA conditions? And from your perspective, would it be worth the risk to apply ED to Utah? Thanks in advance for the help!

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I took the LSAT for the first time in September and didn't get the score I wanted, so I'm retaking in November. Does anyone have tips to help prepare for a 2nd attempt? Should I just study my weak areas and continue to take PTs? I want to make sure I am fully prepared the second time around. Let me know what you think!! :)

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I just received an email from a law school I applied to. I submitted my application for this school yesterday. This morning I received an email saying my application was incomplete. Turns out that my undergraduate transcripts were not received but everything else was including my letters of recommendation. Do you have to assign the transcripts like the letters of recommendation in order for them to be sent? Or is there some other process that one needs to do so LSAC can send the transcripts? Or should LSAC just automatically send them?

Has anyone else had this issue? Thanks

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Just wondering (to give myself some hope), has anyone on here seen a twenty point increase from their diagnostic as a result of intensive study? Specifically from the mid 150's to the mid 170's? If so, any advice?

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Besides working or volunteering, does anyone have any other ideas for interesting learning experiences? I know I am looking for a way to develop my leadership skills and overall bring a project idea to life. I am also interested in doing legal research for a journal or even volunteering for a law professor, but I can see how it'd be difficult undertaking legal work now without having any any formal legal training.

How do fellow 7sagers view a gap year before law school or simply a gap year from work and school responsibilities? Thanks for sharing!

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